Ultimate Submissions: Vinny Magalhaes submits Daniel Gracie with a Banana Split
The Gracie’s have stamped their name right alongside Jiu-Jitsu. Whether the label of Brazilian or Gracie precedes Jiu-Jitsu, the world of grappling identifies the two as being synonymous.
For years, even decades, the Gracies have ruled the grappling world. From Royce dominating other combat martial arts in the early days of the UFC, Rickson’s claim of being undefeated with more than 400 victories and Royler Gracie’s impressive run in grappling tournaments when not one person scored a single point on him.
But just like any other competitive sport, a changing of the guard happens frequently. From Sakuraba’s dismantling of the Gracies in PRIDE to Eddie Bravo being the first man to submit a Gracie in major competition, it happens and the reason is always the same: skills evolve and adapt.
With the evolution of fighters comes the evolution of skill sets. More moves are incorporated into the sport including counters for all those new moves. And in time, more moves that have existed for years are often showcased way later than their innovation.
It took a long time before moves like the Gogoplata and Twister were ever showcased any way other than demonstration. For more on one of these innovative moves, follow me after the jump.
Vinny Magalhães may sound familiar to fight fans and that is because he was the runner up for the The Ultimate Fighter: Team Mir vs Team Noguiera. He is now currently M-1 Global’s light heavyweight champion.
He is also a Jiu-Jitsu wizard.
Earning his black belt in fashion, Vinny was promoted by Vinicius Aieta and Royler Gracie after winning 13 matches (10 by submissions) and winning two gold medals in the World Jiu-Jitsu Championships in 2005. Added to his collection of accolades, Vinny was also the 2007 Super Heavyweight Champion in the World Championships.
More recently, Vinny was seen in Abu Dhabi Combat Club (ADCC) in the Submission Wrestling World Championships, earning two bronze medals. His run included finishing world renowned Jiu-Jitsu ace Marcelo Garcia with a flying arm bar and his same aerial attack would end the run of Chris Weidman as well.
His run would be ended by Xande Ribiero and Braulio Estima respectively.
Then a gem was released online showcasing a grappling match between Vinny and fourth degree Renzo Gracie Black Belt Daniel Gracie.
This video highlighted the extent of Vinny’s incredible grappling talent:
After three minutes of feints and baiting attempts by both Vinny and Daniel, they finally clinch up with Vinny snatching an overhook on Daniel’s left arm. He drags Daniel towards the mat and off balance as he shoots in for a takedown.
It's the most significant action in the first three minutes.

Gracie actually stuffs the takedown but Vinny quickly recovers by exploding upwards latching on a body lock and takes Daniel Gracie’s back standing.
Not only did Vinny throw him off his base with the overhook to set up the takedown, he also showed the explosion and his grappling IQ when he was stuffed. He could have disengaged and reset or he very well could have been in a bad spot with his head in the mat and Gracie on top of him.
Instead, Vinny takes Daniel’s back with a very tight gripped body lock.

With back control Vinny now is seeking to get the fight to the ground without being countered or swept. Gracie, a fourth degree black belt, is a very dangerous grappler even when he is being attacked in a disadvantageous position.
Vinny takes his right leg, puts it right in front of the right foot of Daniel and trips him forward. He uses the leverage and his strength to add to the loss of balance Daniel experiences to force the fight to the mat. He attempts to get the hooks in to gain back mount on the way down but Gracie attempts to roll.
During the roll, Vinny abandons the hooks and settles for holding position. Still clutching a very tight body lock around the abdomen of Gracie, Vinny resets his base and ends by putting his left leg in the middle of Gracie’s legs.
Vinny hops to the left side of Gracie still maintaining the back position. Without hooks Gracie is still very dangerous, options to roll out or even into a leg lock is possible.
Vinny is staying active attacking from the behind of Gracie; he swiftly and smoothly hops back over to the right side and immediately gets his right hook in under Gracie. It is such a smooth transition and it happens so quickly that Vinny almost slips off the side of Gracie.
Instead of establishing the other hook to gain full control of the back mount, Vinny opts to make things more interesting. He locks down the right leg of Gracie in reverse which you could view as a reverse half guard since Vinny has locked down one single leg. He also has the triangle formation, the figure four of his legs controlling the isolated leg.
Also notice Vinny’s left leg, it is on the outer shin area of the isolated leg of Gracie. That will play its small yet significant part in controlling the position to set up the submission.
The overall set up is very unorthodox as most grapplers will attempt to really establish their hooks to get to a controlled back mount. Sometimes that will lead to the defender, in this case Gracie, being unexpectedly attacked from a different direction.
Here is where we should be looking closely.
With the leg isolated and locked down, Vinny is almost sitting sideways atop Gracie’s back. He reaches down to the free leg and grabs the ankle. As soon as he does he tucks his head and rolls forward using his momentum to also roll Gracie.
Since Vinny doesn’t do a full roll, he ends up on his back under the legs of Gracie, as Gracie ends up flat on his back.
Vinny maintains the isolation of Gracie’s right leg with his own legs and now uses his arms to snatch the left leg of his opponent. He then extends out his legs pushing Gracie’s right leg apart while pulling up the left leg of Gracie with his arms causing the groin area to stretch in a "splits" motion.
It doesn’t seem like much but as soon as the extension of the hips begins the burning sensation in your groin muscles instantly begin to be uncomfortable and before you know it you are tapping out. It is a submission that adds extreme discomfort and almost no escape route to be a highly effective submission.
Magalhaes finishes Gracie with a Banana Split.
What is interesting to note is that this submission and set-up are heavily taught by Eddie Bravo and his 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu System. So much can come from this set up: not only is the Banana Split possible from it but so is the twister and the electric chair submissions.
Just another great showing of how innovative and risky technique can prevail even against top notch technicians like Daniel Gracie.
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Awesome stuff.
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wow that was amazing!
great stuff ans as always
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"i dont get it"
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He did it wrong...
Key lock grip on the ankle…almost like a kimura on the lower leg…
I guess the guy vinny was against was a scrub.
I don't see why you would want to grip the ankle . . .
when the purpose of the move is to cause stretching of the groin. It seems that hooking the inside of the knee would provide optimal torque to finish the move.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
He didn't do it wrong.
He grabbed the ankle initially to control the leg at 3:55 and then quickly moves to have both hands on the knee at 3:56. From there it’s only a second for him to implement the split and Daniel taps.
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wise men do foolishly." - Touchstone - As You Like It
the first 2 gifs arent working for me at all, the last 2 i had to click "view in new window’. Just to let you know!
awesome as usual ANS
Poor guy must fuck like dog shit
I only see pics on there.
Are they supposed to be GIFs?
Shields never eyepokes his opponent, so why all of a sudden is he throwing eyepokes every round against a guy he knows he can’t takedown?? Highly suspicious.
Two_Words.
And that's the word.
Re-opening in a new window does nothing.
Shields never eyepokes his opponent, so why all of a sudden is he throwing eyepokes every round against a guy he knows he can’t takedown?? Highly suspicious.
Two_Words.
And that's the word.
I like the new gif thing (opening a new window) makes the page move easier.
When Vinny grabs the ankle and rolls, it seems the bodies natural inclination (and Daniel’s) is to “kick” the hand off the ankle, thereby allowing Vinny to hook the back of Daniel’s knee with his left arm and using his right hand to pull the knee cap away from, the groin area, opening up the very quick submission.
Question. Is this more a gimmick than usable submission now that it has surfaced? It seems that Daniel extending his leg once the right leg is locked would fully prevent Vinny from landing this submission. No? What would be Vinny’s next step once the left leg is extended?
The new US "debt deal" cut $2.4 trillion in deficit spending over 10 years. So instead of a $1.5 TRILLION deficit in 2012, we will only have to borrow $1.26 TRILLION to run our country into the ground. O_o
Far from a gimmick. They are used alot just not at this elite level, similar to the say the Peruvian Necktie. Vinny is just such a wizard, he is probably one of the more creative grapplers in the world.
The beauty of alot of 10th Planet Stuff is one set up is used for multiple things. From that position while being slightly unorthodox he could have set up an Electric Chair sweep or submission, or the twister. Like you see Jake Shields doing here.

Regardless if he extends his leg it is up to Vinny to control it, if he doesnt he turns into the twister, however the Banana Split happens so fast that it is difficult to defend. Gracie’s dont do alot of this “new era” BJJ and even if Gracie knew what it was I am sure he wasnt expecting it from the back mount since most of these subs come from the half guard lock down.
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by AintNoSunshine on Aug 12, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
not used at thi elite level?
does that mean they are too risky to attempt, or that once recognized, they are easy to defend? Something else?
What is the counter to the half guard lock down? (I should probably read Bravo’s books and watch his videos, lol)
The new US "debt deal" cut $2.4 trillion in deficit spending over 10 years. So instead of a $1.5 TRILLION deficit in 2012, we will only have to borrow $1.26 TRILLION to run our country into the ground. O_o
a little of both
in most cases theres a number of different steps and someone who is good on the ground will be able to get out of it at some point during its elaborateness lol
as far as the lock down, theres a few different ways to get out of it…one that i like is when you get an underhook on the same side as the lock down, then move up onto your toes with your foot thats locked down and both of your elbows and shift your weight towards your head…from there, you take your free leg and pry your opponents knee down with your instep, and then just switch your hips and drive your knee to the mat on the opposite side of the lock down…if you do it right you should end up in side control…theres other ways to get out of it, thats just my go-to
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
Mike has this one down.
At the elite level it just becomes more risky and higher risk lower reward. It is not that they are easy to defend just aces like Braulio, Xande, etc are much quicker to adapt and if they catch you making a mistake its over.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Aug 12, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i do what i can
lol
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
Banana split?
Ain’t that abb’s patented move ?
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I got 2nd in my first competion, anf im taking home the gold on the 20th!! Haa
by Broken_Heart91 on Aug 12, 2011 12:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
write a fanpost describing your event, please.
The new US "debt deal" cut $2.4 trillion in deficit spending over 10 years. So instead of a $1.5 TRILLION deficit in 2012, we will only have to borrow $1.26 TRILLION to run our country into the ground. O_o
Naga???
Might see you there. Which division? where do you train out of man? Like ulf said – do a post after.
Sometimes, these things happen in MMA
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 12, 2011 1:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Are you competing there as well?
The new US "debt deal" cut $2.4 trillion in deficit spending over 10 years. So instead of a $1.5 TRILLION deficit in 2012, we will only have to borrow $1.26 TRILLION to run our country into the ground. O_o
Not this round. With my work schedule no chance to seriously train.
Though I’ll try to go down and help coach and prep some of our guys.
Sometimes, these things happen in MMA
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 12, 2011 1:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Naga? Hahaha I wish dude
Im competing in the olution. Its considered one of the biggest jits tournament in the northwest. Ivan salaverry competed here last march and guys like thiago tavares and and fabiano sherner were officials there. I train outta gracie barra and I compete in the 154 to 167 weight division. My dream is to one day compete in the worlds one day
by Broken_Heart91 on Aug 12, 2011 3:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's cool man.
Yea definitely keep me updated on how you do man. It’s always cool to make BJJ connects….find friendly faces and places to roll whereever you travel.
Sometimes, these things happen in MMA
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 12, 2011 4:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hell probly yell at me again
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
just sent it to his twitter
hopefully he has a better mania experience this time.
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i hope he doesnt
that was so inappropriate and unbecoming of a professional athlete to yell at a fan that was just stating an opinion, one that was pretty much right on the money if i do say so myself
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
meh
It’s an Internet forum. You have the right to call him out on something, and he has the right to respond. I don’t see anything unprofessional about it.
"The more pity, that fools may not speak wisely what
wise men do foolishly." - Touchstone - As You Like It
Same here.
Honestly I appreciated his response; I would love to see more fighters interacting with fans of the sport. A certain amount of defensiveness is to be expected when most (not all obviously) fans don’t have a great understanding of the sacrifices and difficulties that fighters go through in preparation for fights. That being said, I love the approach fighters like ANS have taken with trying to help fans become better educated regarding the intricacies of the sport.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
the difference is i do understand all that
and he decided to get all butthurt when all i did was speak the truth
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
I know you do which is why I included the disclaimer.
But I still appreciate him interacting with fans of the sport, even if it was just to disagree with an opinion. If I recall the thread correctly, he was definitely a bit on the defensive side, but I think you were hypercritical as well. Just an outsiders perspective, take it as you will.
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got a link to that convo mike? i remember reading it but i cant remember what the situation was.
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good break down, ans..
aside from it seeming like a 10th planet JJ plug, i enjoyed the thoroughness of you post..
never heard of the banana split before..
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by stinky~fingers on Aug 12, 2011 12:48 PM EDT reply actions
Very Nice
This is often right there for the taking, but not a lot of fighters know how to pull this off. And the bjj black belts simply aren’t thinking about it.
by G Squat on Aug 12, 2011 12:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Just like the Twister, this is just another wrestling move that has been re-discovered in bjj. As a coach for a high school wrestling team, I have had numerous kids split their opponents just like this, only, they use it for back points and a pin and do not wrench too much on the groin, but the move is the same. Still pretty impressive to hit at this level.
I just said that lol
look up 1
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Is down the new up?
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damn
from my computer it was up 1 and now that i refreshed its down. sorry i stole ur thing then?
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Great post
i personally hate Eddie Bravo, but that aside hasn’t the banana split been used in highschool wrestling to pin ppl for a while? And Vinny is a stud grappler i would love to see him back in the ufc.
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Everything has been done before. Whether it is brought from another discipline or whatever it is still highly impressive. The twister may be a wrestling move but Eddie brought it EFFECTIVELY to JJ.
That is what makes Eddie so damn good. Why hadnt anyone else brought the moves he has to straight JJ? He is an innovator.
Pure 10th planet BJJ does not work on high level guys
its too easy to smash someones face with their knee in rubber guard, or if someone does the lockdown if u stand up their knee will pop. when a 10th planet guy wins the BJJ gi worlds then i will b impressed. but they wont. and yes i know he subbed Gracie but anyone can win on any given day
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What is funny is that Vinny is a Royler guy yet he uses 10th Planet. Pure 10th Planet has worked at the highest level. It is ignorant to write off the system. I have never been knee smashed by someone countering rubber guard.
Its a very mean :)
its similar to stacking someone to pass except the point is to cause enough pain that the person releases the rubber guard. it sucks and i did rubber guard as i white belt until a purple belt rightly smashed my face in with my own knee. broken noses FTW. and I dont have a problem with moves like the twister or gogoplata, but the fact is its low percentage BJJ. The highest percentageBJJ is that of Marcelo garcia or Roger Gracie who always do the same thing. Sweep/takedown, mount or backmount, and choke. All the best guys do this and thats why i model my game after them. trying to finish from the bottom is fine, but if thats ur game, you will lose in advanced brackets.
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Im not trying to be a dick
but whats fine? winning NAGA, GQ, US grappling or Panams and NY open and other larger events. im in the former but will b winning my first panams in 2 months ;)
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yeah it is
but winning the No-gi worlds is no where near the same accomplishment as winning the gi worlds. Only 2 americans have ever won the gi worlds and many have won the nogi worlds including josh barnett. its a big difference. also not a single american took 1st or 2nd in the Gi worlds this year which shows how strong the brazilian dominance currently is
Frankie Edgar: The next UFC champion in two seperate divisions. Hell, maybe three
Sig bet with Private Box on Shields vs Ellenberger. SHEILDS
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And it isnt Brazilian dominance its more culture, Brazilians prefer the Gi while Americans seem to prefer no-gi.
If Americans spent the same amount of time as Brazilians in Gi it would be much different. However, in America alot of guys getting into jiu jitsu joing for MMA and Gi is useless for MMA
Gi worlds is a much larger accomplishment
their is a reason why it is so prestigious. and say what u want about the gi but the best nogi guys in the world train in guy. ex Marcelo, Roger, Braulio etc
Frankie Edgar: The next UFC champion in two seperate divisions. Hell, maybe three
Sig bet with Private Box on Shields vs Ellenberger. SHEILDS
Sig bet with Shogun's Hairy Forearms on Rua vs Griffin. GRIFFIN
All of which arent relevent in MMA.
My point was alot of Americans focus on MMA which has no need for the Gi. Brazilians are all about their Jiu Jitsu.
It isnt that prestigious amongst Americans as it is for Brazilians and people into pure Jiu Jitsu.
ok
i hate Penn but he is one of the 2. Also Demian Maia. Roger is one of the best prospects out there.
Frankie Edgar: The next UFC champion in two seperate divisions. Hell, maybe three
Sig bet with Private Box on Shields vs Ellenberger. SHEILDS
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one of 2 guys to win Gi worlds
and that was due to his incredible flexibility and natural talent. he truly was a “prodigy”. i hate him so much
Frankie Edgar: The next UFC champion in two seperate divisions. Hell, maybe three
Sig bet with Private Box on Shields vs Ellenberger. SHEILDS
Sig bet with Shogun's Hairy Forearms on Rua vs Griffin. GRIFFIN
And im not saying winning the nogi worlds isnt a big deal
it is. its very impressive but its not the same
Frankie Edgar: The next UFC champion in two seperate divisions. Hell, maybe three
Sig bet with Private Box on Shields vs Ellenberger. SHEILDS
Sig bet with Shogun's Hairy Forearms on Rua vs Griffin. GRIFFIN
so you want someone who trains no-gi to go and win the gi world championships before you’ll be impressed? that just doesn’t make any sense.
by I.AM.miSTAKen on Aug 12, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
some of Eddie bravo's guys do do the gi worlds
or beat someone very good consistently. i wish Royler would take the rematch with Bravo and stop being an idiot. I think he would get his revenge easily
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yup
Fuck. whatever happened to the “i will fight anyone anywhere if they offend my honor” shit. now they want a million bucks for it
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no shit he wants a million for a grappling match? has anybody ever been paid anywhere near that much?
by I.AM.miSTAKen on Aug 12, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
not for a superfight
im pretty sure some guys get like 100,000 for really big things but a million is ridiculous.
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Man, I am an admitted fan of strikers, but I appreciate and respect high level grapplers.
Especially when it is such a sudden and explosive sub..That was slicker than possum shit. I’d like to see Vinny back in the UFC
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ahh the banana split!
I mentioned this move after Garcia was subbed by the twister. the banana split is something I learned as a freshman in wrestling. I actually got to see it used to get a pin in a match. I had never seen it before but ran right up to my friend afterwards and was like “wtf was that?” after the meet he taught me both the banana split and the twister, to use to get the pin in wrestling not as a submission move.
the funny part is that the guy practically gave my friend the other leg to finish the move. my friend was saying that he was just locking the left leg for control but then the opponent lifted his right leg trying to stand up, so my friend was just like fuck it if you want to give it to me then I’ll take it. funniest part was after the roll the opponent is kind of in a sitting position with a look of like wtf is going on here? then before the opponent can really react, my friend starts pulling on his legs to do the split part and the look on the opponent was just priceless. from a seated wtf look to an oh my god, silent scream with an open mouth, and literally threw himself backwards to the mat with his arms out to the side. the opponent pretty much pinned himself.
All I saw was wrestling, from the single leg shot to scurry around to the backside to sliping the leg in
The banana split has been around since forever and the twister is called a guillotine in wrestling… all have been around since before anyone on here was born.
"Some have wrestled without great skill - none have wrestled without pride."
You mean what you saw is grappling. Because it was a grappling match not a wrestling match. And slipping the leg in is called getting hooks and the twister is called the twister and was brought from wrestling and trasnlated into jiu jitsu.
What was the point of your post anyways?
Yes obviously it was a grap tourney, no need to mention that...
But everything Vinnie did was a combination of wrestling technique, Even the single leg shot was wrestling. Vinnie got gracies back gracie was worried about getting choked, Vinnie took advantage of that with wrestling technique.
What I am saying is that was wrestling technique… when guys are saying that’ oh’ its the banana split BJJ is so cool, or oh’’ its the banana split I’ve never seen that before BJJ is so awesome… Yeah JuJu is awesome because it focuses on submitting… but lets not forget what we saw is Vinnie using wrestling technique at a grappling tournament… Kudo’s to Vinnie for thinking outside the box and adapting wrestling skills to a grappling tournament.
"Some have wrestled without great skill - none have wrestled without pride."
catch as catch can wrestling?
I bet billy robinson and barnett are co-signing this!!!
Sometimes, these things happen in MMA
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 13, 2011 3:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
all have been around since before anyone on here was born
Have you met Ulf? ;-)
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bastard
The new US "debt deal" cut $2.4 trillion in deficit spending over 10 years. So instead of a $1.5 TRILLION deficit in 2012, we will only have to borrow $1.26 TRILLION to run our country into the ground. O_o
It's just bitterness that I dropped a spot
in the Money Pool standings after a pretty abysmal last event. Fortunately you and dlocc didn’t do very well either so I didn’t lose much ground, but definitely have a bit of catching up to do on Agar.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
Man that fn thing is rigged.
I gotta say that my consistency aside from that one event has been ridiculous always either at #6 or 5. Yet am in fucking spot 8??? bs!! fuck everyone above me lol
Sometimes, these things happen in MMA
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 13, 2011 4:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, getting a 27 or a 28 will tend to give you some catching up to do . . .
but consistency is definitely the key. If you can score in the top 5 to 10 each event you’ll be right there with a chance to win.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
anyone have a link
to Magalhaes vs Garcia? Can’t seem to find it anywhere.
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what? lol
then i saw ur name
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Huh?
I assume he’s referring to his ADCC match against Marcelo Garcia where he won (according to this post) via flying armbar.
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sorry my bad too much beer!
i thought he said mag vs gracie and was taking the piss! lol get my coat
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"

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by merryprankster on Aug 12, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
yessir that's what I'm looking for
Magalhaes vs Garcia
Both these guys are fun to watch so I can only assume their match was epic. Especially since Garcia was submitted.
"Progress lies not in enhancing what is, but in advancing toward what will be." - Kahlil Gibran
by merryprankster on Aug 12, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no doubt.
I did a search for it online, but couldn’t find anything. I, too, would love to see the match if someone is able to post it.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
GARCIA
not Gracie
"Progress lies not in enhancing what is, but in advancing toward what will be." - Kahlil Gibran
by merryprankster on Aug 12, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks ANS for taking the time to write up
Haven’t said it before but have read several of these articles. It’s definitely a welcome addition to any site like this. Of course you already know how good it is to have gifs and vids with the great descriptions, but again many thanks.
Just for the sake of the truth in detail of this article.. Vinny Magalhaes did not fight nor tap Marcelo Garcia with a flying arm bar.
That could be Pe de Pano (Marcio Cruz)

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