Why did UFC President Dana White visit WWE Chairman Vince McMahon?
by Jesse Holland on Jul 22, 2011 10:59 AM EDT
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Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) President Dana White was recently in Stamford, Conn., at World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) headquarters to talk turkey with the Chairman of the Board of the sports entertainment conglomerate, Vince McMahon.
But why?
Aside from sharing a common bond, which is dominating their respective markets and crushing the competition, White and McMahon also rule the pay-per-view (PPV) roost, delivering fans monthly entertainment for about fifty bucks.
It's also no secret the Zuffa boss followed the business model Vinny Mac used to make his WWE a booming success, which at one point became large enough (and profitable enough) to purchase its biggest rival, World Championship Wrestling (WCW).
Of course he had a little help from WCW as it was already in dire straits prior to McMahon's brigandage. Sound anything like the absorption of PRIDE?
Naturally then, there would be a lot to talk about between the two kings, if nothing else but to share a laugh over their past conquests.
Or is there something else in the works? White gives Ariel Helwani the reason for his Stamford pop-in:
"I like Vince McMahon. Last time we met was probably two years ago, we had breakfast in Vegas. I just wanted to bounce some stuff off him. I wanted to talk to him so I called him up, asked him what he was doing and if I could swing by and he said 'yeah.' Plus I've never been to their headquarters before so that was pretty cool. He's got a lot of cool history in there from the WWE and the XFL and stuff like that. We talked about a lot of stuff. It was both [business and personal]. We talked about what we're doing, what they're doing, stuff like that. That's it."
Whatever he "bounced" off McMahon was juicy enough to tease via his official Twitter account. Then again, White could have just been gloating, as he was inside Titan Towers and we weren't.
One of this sport's worst kept secrets is how many mixed martial arts fans have been (and still are) fans of professional wrestling, though few would admit it due to the Scarlett letter that gets assigned upon such an admission.
So what's your take on Dana's visit to Connecticut? Something wicked this way comes? Or much ado about nothing?
Anyone think Brock Lesnar has something to do with this?
Opinions, please.
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I think the Lesnar non-sense should stop. Just because he was part of them once doesnt mean they are planning some super crazy idea to trade him back or include him. Both guys are top dogs of entertainment businesses why wouldnt they just have a meal and talk things over. It happens alot when two guys in the same business want to just chat it up.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 11:02 AM EDT reply actions
I wouldn’t say its non-sense to speculate that they were talking about Brock. Just a while back wasn’t the WWE trying to get some kind of deal where Brock could appear at Wrestlemania? So it isn’t unreasonable to believe that they talked about him. That isnt to say that is the reason he went there in the first place, but to say it’s “non-sense” is a stretch.
In fighting and everyday life you should be determined, though calm. Meet the situation without tenseness, yet not recklessly; your spirit settled, yet unbiased. An elevated spirit is weak, and a low spirit is weak. Do not let the enemy see your spirit.
Yeah it is.
In fighting and everyday life you should be determined, though calm. Meet the situation without tenseness, yet not recklessly; your spirit settled, yet unbiased. An elevated spirit is weak, and a low spirit is weak. Do not let the enemy see your spirit.
Nice
Great philosophies in Five Rings for being good at anything. Should give him his due at the end of the sig though.
by PansyMcBear on Jul 22, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
"One of this sport's worst kept secrets is how many mixed martial arts fans have been (and still are) fans of professional wrestling, though few would admit it due to the Scarlett letter that gets assigned upon such an admission."
I think it could be based on a desire to see MMA become mainstream (like 1 of the big 3 sports).
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
guilty pleasures is more like it
young adults are ashamed to admit the enjoy the soap opera that is wwe
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
Really? IDK about that. I admit to watching cartoons, mindless action movies, reading comic books and the like.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
That's considered nastalgic
Or reliving youth.
PEople that watch wrestling are branded as “not knowing the difference between reality and fantasy”. They carry very different stigmas than the youthful adults that watch cartoons or mindless action movies.
It’s just how people label people differently. Bullshit or not, that’s how most people look at it. IMO
Starting a petition to bring Cote back to the UFC. Who's with me?
i agree with the poor gsp fan up here who can't tell boring matches from actual fights :)
j/k man but yeah, ‘liking’ wrestling carries a lot of stigmas. At least these days you can claim to like it ironically and go from ‘unable to distinguish fake from reality’ to ‘dumbass hipster’ and still get to watch it
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
Boring matches?
I’ve never seen a boring fight in my life. Fighting is the exact opposite of boring.
Starting a petition to bring Cote back to the UFC. Who's with me?
fixed it for you
Fighting is the exact opposite ofboringgsp.
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
i sincerely hope your joking lol
these stupid mexicans, dont even know what real fighting is haha
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
gsp doesn't fight
gsp competes, simple as that
gsp is not a fighter, gsp is a superb athlete, out of this fucking world whose talent far surpasses everyone in the division and everyone before him but he IS NOT a fighter, he’s a business man first, athlete second.
can’t fault him for that ‘cause he’s so successful but he’s no longer a fighter.
tell matt i said ‘well, thanks man!’ next time you see him
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
He just competes….. in a combat sport.
Where he jabs, kicks, elbows and knees. Sounds like fighting.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
vhw 's description is not too far off the base here. I don't agree with it 100% but there is alot of validity to it.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
GSP is not a fighter?
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Not in the sense before the Serra loss. He has evolved or you could say he has taken all of the risk out of his matches.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
Isn't that what all good fighters should aspire to?
Taking the risk out of their fights.
That’s like saying the New Jersey Devils of the late 90’s weren’t playing hockey because they took a lot of risk out of their defense. It’s stupid and vhw is trolling.
Starting a petition to bring Cote back to the UFC. Who's with me?
when it comes to gsp
i never troll… no, wait… yeah i do troll.
but my opinion stands. I respect gsp far more than many fighters, i truly believe he’s one of a kind i’ve seen the clinics he puts on his rivals but i don’t consider him to be a figher any longer.
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
sure it is great to have fans and all....
but who is gsp fighting for?…himself!!…to win..to earn the prize money…to better himself..he may not entertain some people…but you can’t say he is not a fighter…he is a freakin winning and dominating fighter…and yes he does take risks..he improves every time..and i’m sure he loses little sleep over what people think about his fighting style… (are you pulling 400k to win fights?? no you are not..)
I dont get this label. St. Pierre plays to his strenghts which he would have been doing without the Serra loss. Its called maturity, some fighters have it some dont. Jorge Gurgel doesnt.
And taking all the risks out? Throwing headkicks, overhands, superman punches, spinning backfists, spinning back kicks are all non-safe strikes.
Those could all lead to bad spots. GSP is far from safe. He takes loads of risks, he just has near flawless execution
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
No, he does not take risks. The Kos fight is a clear example of that. And the Shields fight (before the eye pokes). And I am a GSP fan - I just don't believe he is the same fighter. Its good and bad.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
Throwing a spinning back kick is a huge risk. Throwing the spinning back fist as well.
An overhand and head kick the same.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Specify the fight? Kos or Shields?
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
All of them. By spinning you give the opportunity of having your back taken. GSP isnt as good in defensive grappling.
By throwing an overhand you leave openings for counter hooks or uppercuts.
Superman punches leave you open to stiff straights down the pipe as well as takedowns.
Headkicks lead to takedowns or sweeps.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
On paper, yes. Lets discuss reality. Kos fight - depth perception was gone for him. Risk was very low. I am not buying what you are selling. I will give you valid points for the Shields fight - especially after the eye pokes. GSP did show heart
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
As soon as he shut Koschecks eye he still throw overhand after overhand. He could have stuck to one punch the rest of the night. He did not.
I have yet to see him fight safe outside of the Hardy fight (in the stand up at least) but in that fight he repeatedly passed the guard which is also nto playing it safe.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
He fought safe against Shields as well
had zero intentions of going to ground. never once overcommited so as not to get dragged down.
"Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, from the Ancient Greek for "thief" and "rule," is a term applied to a government subject to control fraud that takes advantage of governmental corruption to extend the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats), via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service. The term means "rule by thieves".
Why would he take down Shields?
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Principal
GSP has the best wrestling in the WW division, right? Why would he not take Shields down and beat him up a bit if he was not fighting safe?
"Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, from the Ancient Greek for "thief" and "rule," is a term applied to a government subject to control fraud that takes advantage of governmental corruption to extend the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats), via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service. The term means "rule by thieves".
He also has some of the best refined striking in the division as well.
Jake does not. Jake does have a superb ground game.
He did what any fighter should do. Work your strengths against their weakness
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
One could argue that Fitch has as good a ground game as Jake
Yet GSP took Fitch down at will.
GSP was playing it safe from the moment he pulled a Lebron and blew water all over himself, twice, before the fight started. He wanted no part of going to the ground with Jake.
"Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, from the Ancient Greek for "thief" and "rule," is a term applied to a government subject to control fraud that takes advantage of governmental corruption to extend the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats), via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service. The term means "rule by thieves".
Who does want to go to the ground with Shields? Name me a guy who tries it willingly
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Fitch
"Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, from the Ancient Greek for "thief" and "rule," is a term applied to a government subject to control fraud that takes advantage of governmental corruption to extend the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats), via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service. The term means "rule by thieves".
BJ
"Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, from the Ancient Greek for "thief" and "rule," is a term applied to a government subject to control fraud that takes advantage of governmental corruption to extend the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats), via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service. The term means "rule by thieves".
Prime Hughes
"Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, from the Ancient Greek for "thief" and "rule," is a term applied to a government subject to control fraud that takes advantage of governmental corruption to extend the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats), via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service. The term means "rule by thieves".
They all took Shields down? Didnt know they fought
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Who does want to go to the ground with Shields? Name me a guy who tries it willingly
When did the above statement come to imply past tense?
All three of the guys I named would do it willingly.
"Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, from the Ancient Greek for "thief" and "rule," is a term applied to a government subject to control fraud that takes advantage of governmental corruption to extend the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats), via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service. The term means "rule by thieves".
There is a counter for every move and for every counter
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Jul 22, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a quick jab + takedown. St. Pierre could do it 5 rounds straight. 12 punches 6 takedowns to victory.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Straight right
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Jul 22, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Ive yet to see a straight right counter a St. Pierre jab
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't mean it can't happen.
It may be a low risk technique (the jab) but you do it enough times and your opponent fires back. Same with anything.
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Jul 22, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Point is GSP throws alot of risky strikes.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
A jab is considered to be the safest strike as it makes your opponent extend his defense and establish your range. That Kos fight was NOT risky once he obliterated his eye socket.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
GSP only throws strikes when he’s held his competitor down for most of the round and during the last 25-30 sec he throws a lifeless jab.
My favorite K1 fighter:
Yuta Kubo the best 63-70kg striker in the world.
by Untitled_Artistry on Jul 22, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
He throw alot of hooks and overhands in rounds 2+ vs Koscheck.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
And boy were they ugly.
Like i said before, and time, and time again Nick is going to going to show the difference in superior striking and superior BJJ.
My favorite K1 fighter:
Yuta Kubo the best 63-70kg striker in the world.
by Untitled_Artistry on Jul 22, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugly huh?
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
its damn ugly...
Its going to be a clinch for Nick mark my words.
My favorite K1 fighter:
Yuta Kubo the best 63-70kg striker in the world.
by Untitled_Artistry on Jul 22, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
ANS, if you want to see somebody counter a jab take a look at what Pete Spratt just did at Legacy Fights 7
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Jul 23, 2011 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Gurgel is an idiot. Bad example.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
How can a rant get started about GSP in an article about DW visiting McMahon?
GSP haters are cunt nuggets!
“That’s considered nastalgic Or reliving youth.
PEople that watch wrestling are branded as "not knowing the difference between reality and fantasy". They carry very different stigmas than the youthful adults that watch cartoons or mindless action movies.
It’s just how people label people differently. Bullshit or not, that’s how most people look at it. IMO"
Quality post, Jay.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
a couple of producers and another intern
at my job watch raw on mondays…i dont even know who anyone is anymore but john cena…im over the soap opera part but some of these guys are scary athletic…theres a jamaican dude with dreads that blows me away
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
kofi(sp?) kingston
he jumps like there’s no tomorrow but he’s no shelton benjamin.
wonder what ever happened to that kid, he had some sick spots during his time
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
shelton benjamin coulda done MMA
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
Who is this guy?
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
JUCO national champ
all-american at minnesota with brock…not sure what weight class
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
Pretty athletic?
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Very athletic, the guy is a natural athlete
Came from a real shitty area as well, amateur wrestling kept him out of prison.
Anderson Silva is still the P4P King of MMA and will be 14-0 in the UFC after Rio, Jon Jones is the future P4P King and will smash Quittin inside 3 rounds and I told everyone from the start that Cain and JDS were the best 2 HWs in the world. TRT is the get out clause for drug cheats and UFC 133 officially sucks.
by David W-S on Jul 22, 2011 1:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sheltons teaming with Charlie Haas at ROH
Quality athlete and would have made a top fighter if he’d have taken that road instead of MMA but his promo skills have always been weak and he’s supposedly lazy.
Anderson Silva is still the P4P King of MMA and will be 14-0 in the UFC after Rio, Jon Jones is the future P4P King and will smash Quittin inside 3 rounds and I told everyone from the start that Cain and JDS were the best 2 HWs in the world. TRT is the get out clause for drug cheats and UFC 133 officially sucks.
by David W-S on Jul 22, 2011 1:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i'll have to check that out, thanks!
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
I like the soap opera part if you watch it for what it is… a soap opera. It can be comedic at times when nothings on TV. And that guy I know who your talking about.. he is a crazy little athlete.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
No the WWE wanted too, the UFC did not. I am sure the WWE would love Rampage too for cameos. Non-Sense is not a stretch. Brock is sick and healing, still a mixed martial artist.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Brock is counting his TUF $$$sick and healing, still a money making mixed martial artist.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
I understand your dislike for Kimbo, not for Brock?
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Brock is a moron. However, I do respect his short lived MMA career. I just think there is something suspicious after the loss to Cain.- starting with the UnderTaker meeting, the botched WM attempt, the TUF role out of left field, etc.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
short lived implies that its over
i dont believe that it is
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
Really? If his 2nd surgery is legit - then the numbers are against him.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
An incredible story about a guy who has ALWAYS loved to fill his life with competition
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
and meat
lots of meat and no greens. It sucks if he never fights again, can’t believe he lost the fight to vegetables!
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
That is actually ironic… and funny
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
numbers are definitely against him
but he came back from the first one, and apparently his recovery is going much better this time…hell be back…im just curious as to who they give him when he gets back…probably the loser of some second tier HW scrap
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
JDS if he loses to Cain
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
thats an aggressive first fight back
i was thinking more along the lines of loser of schaub-big nog
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
Same here
He’s not going to be fighting the number 2 HW in his first fight back. Dana knows that’s a dead end road.
Starting a petition to bring Cote back to the UFC. Who's with me?
I would bet it is JDS but I wouldnt disagree with MM’s guess of Nog or Schaub especially if it was Nog.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw the TUF role as attempt to placate Brock for not letting him go to the WWE.
Brock has a contract that he has to fulfill and Dana wanted his money machine to be happy. However there was, I believe, no ducking of JDS. However if you call removal of intestine ducking then I cant convince you otherwise. However knowing Brock from his previous actions and stints it would not surprise me that he wanted to move to something else. However ducking and diving I dont believe is in Brocks nature when push comes to shove. He has way too much pride for that.
I've got something to say; it better to burn out than to fade away!!!
Is it really funny Mayhem, please tell me its funny.
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I almost agree with your post word for word. Again, I am just speculating.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
Undertaker meeting wasnt suspicious it was a clear ploy to drag Brock to WM. There was no botch WM attempt, even Dana said it was ridiculous. Just because I am doing a regional show and call Brock to come headline doesnt make it a botched attempt. They tried coercing Brock but it was never real.
And the TUF role wasnt out of left field, the show needed ratings and the biggest draw in the company is Brock
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice apologist post. Weeks after the UnderTaker meeting people were claiming it was not a ploy for WM. NOW it was a clear ploy? And citing DW as a source of truth when it comes to protecting his investment? Really, ANS?
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
The Undertaker said it was personal to Ariel. But anyone around the scene knows the WWE needed a big name for WM.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. The difference is that I am not using hindsight here. It was obvious to me from day 1.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
I didnt see it more then just a hail mary ploy by WWE
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I would...
This other BS that you’re talking about with the WWE trying to get Brock to do Wrestlemania was another wild nonsensical story that was never verified or show to have any type of substance. Just stupid people talking and trying to make headlines. Especially a certain journalist, whose name I won’t mention. Not an MMAMania writer tho.
by Akademiks1020 on Jul 22, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
somebody said the other day
that the WWF might wanna sign him to a deal for merchandising purposes only…i dont think thats far-fetched at all, and might actually help both organizations
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
Truthfully how could they do that? How can Brock be merchandised but never showcased to the WWE audience?
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
if i understand this correctly
they are currently not allowed to sell DVD’s of PPVs he was involved in or Best Of type DVDs with his likeness…granted, i have no idea, im just going based off somebodys post the other day
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
Still, even so would it matter dramatically if he isnt even around the WWE. Its been a while since the guy has been there.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
it would sell
make money for the WWF and provide exposure for brock and thus the UFC
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
I just wonder how much Brocks name still means in the terms you suggested. Hasnt it been several years since his name was relevent in WWE?
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Severn too.
Times have changed for sailors these days, when I'm at port I get what I need. Not Havanas or bananas or daiquiris, but that American creation on which I feed.
Shamrock could try and win his belt back tho!
boards dont hit back....
by diamondsven on Jul 22, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point
That belt is still Kenny’s and I think it’s high time they give it back to it’s rightful owner.
Starting a petition to bring Cote back to the UFC. Who's with me?
i got a hold of lesnar's book
Anyone think Brock Lesnar has something to do with this?
by the looks of it, lesnar absolutely hates vince’s guts (didn’t finish reading, though). I seriously doubt (now) that lesnar would want anything to do with wwe so no, that can’t be it.
i also don’t believe it has anything to do with a mutual channel since zuffa has always wanted to take distance from ‘sports entertainment’ but who really knows?
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
I would say you are right except money talks. If Dana allowed it and Vince offered enough money Brock would probably do it. But hey who wouldnt?
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
And the slide out of legitimacy continues,
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
When do you think it actually started? I think the Kimbo experiment jerked it over the lip of the cliff and now its gaining steam with Tweet battles.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
next thing you know lesnar will be finishing jds with the f5!
and finally kos will get to motorboat gsp’s ass via a rikishi finish
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
Or Roy Nelson suspiciously hitting Kimbo with pillow fists when he beat him on TUF. DW wanted to juice the Kimbo experiment as long as possible to suck in the mainstream morons.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
nah, roy is just a good dude, he knew there was no risk in hitting kimbo softly as long as he could keep him on the ground
what definitely passed as clownshoes was the whole ‘will he comeback next week!?’. I fucking hated it
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
I call bullshit on that. DW needed to juice Kimbo some more.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
You think Roy was told to take it easy on him?
Why wouldn’t they just find a way to not put Kimbo in there against the best fighter on the show?
It would have been easier to tell the coaches not to set that match up than it would have been to talk a contestant into not hurting his opponent in a cage fight. No?
Starting a petition to bring Cote back to the UFC. Who's with me?
I am obviously speculating and I have no proof - just wanted to get that out there. Now, your POV is valid but I really do think Roy took it easy on Kimbo, that much is obvious. Did someone tell him? Good question.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
I'm not sure if he took it easy on Kimbo
Or wanted to prove a point (remember he prophesized that he could stop Kimbo without actually hitting him the night before the fight).
Starting a petition to bring Cote back to the UFC. Who's with me?
knowing the genius roy is
he probably wanted to be on camara for a while and thus took the long road to stop kimbo. After all, what better way to get yourself noticed than lying on top of a perceived ‘destruction machine’
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
Roy wouldnt be down with that, you can tell he is far too prideful to do something like that
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
If he was truly prideful then he would not be walking around like someone who ate his way out of a dough factory, now would he? O_o
Anyway, I just don’t believe in coincidences. That’s all.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
That is also his pride. He doesnt feel as if he needs to be the build of everyone else and since everyone says he needs too his pride carries him to prove them wrong.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Roy is a conoceur of food and enjoys eating. That may be some psychological issues but not for lack of pride.
However I think OJR you are allowing you hatred of Kimbo to color you usually objective insights.
I've got something to say; it better to burn out than to fade away!!!
Is it really funny Mayhem, please tell me its funny.
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Haha! I won't deny that - that's why I used the disclaimer "I am speculating".
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
LOL; that like saying "nothing personal" then shout out the insult.
I've got something to say; it better to burn out than to fade away!!!
Is it really funny Mayhem, please tell me its funny.
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Nothing personal Kimbo but:
FUCK YOU!
I feel better already…
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
I am glad it wasn't personal.
I've got something to say; it better to burn out than to fade away!!!
Is it really funny Mayhem, please tell me its funny.
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R.I.P. Houston Alexander's career
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
he had a career, I thought he was a two shot pony with a one hit wonder.
I've got something to say; it better to burn out than to fade away!!!
Is it really funny Mayhem, please tell me its funny.
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He will be headlining the show here in Albuquerque, I am pretty pumped for a pretty big card to be here
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
always liked him
but he was tentative because he was scared of losing to kimbo…in being tentative, he lost to kimbo lol
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
In retrospect he should have mauled right through Kimbo
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
and he could have
had he come in with the fire he did against jardine, kimbo woulda gotten waxed
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
I hope he puts in on for this show.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
whos he fighting?
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
Razzak As Hassan, the guy whose arm was cracked by Cantwell.
Ox Wheeler is fighting Jens Pulver.
Jamie Yager from TUF is fighting Jackson’s Willie Parks
Local Lenny Lovato is fighting Junie Browning
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Please tell Lenny Lovato to break a leg
Or two.
Starting a petition to bring Cote back to the UFC. Who's with me?
His own or Junie’s
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh alright, I was like damn poor Lenny do you even know the guy haha.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
I don’t know Lenny, I’m sure he’s a fine gentleman.
Please ask him to decapitate Junie so I don’t have to see or hear from him again.
Starting a petition to bring Cote back to the UFC. Who's with me?
Thats sort of the plan. Lovato is a stand up guy, pretty legit actually. I think he wanted the fight to use as a stepping stone to leave the regional scene
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I will do it for you. I used to fight guys like Junie in high school.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
im gonna go
alexander
wheeler
parks
browning
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
I hope Yager has TDD haha
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i was one of the few who liked yager on TUF
but after seeing him get embarrassed by attonito on the finale, i gave up on him lol…i think hed be better served in professional kickboxing than MMA
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
I liked him alot on Tuf. But he is just flashy kickboxing, with no ground game or cardio
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
If its in a Bingo hall than I have serious doubts about the respectability of said card.
Sorry guys when Thiago Silva mounted him and kept him like a turtle on its shell it revealed how inadequate he was for the sport. However I do think his KO of Jardine, broke Jardine’s will and his jaw was never the same since.
I've got something to say; it better to burn out than to fade away!!!
Is it really funny Mayhem, please tell me its funny.
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Biggest venue around. The Pit, home of our college basketball team. Sits 16k in a tear drop seating system.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Sweet college arena. Thats cool. 5 years ago that couldn't happen for a regional show. But with the explosion of MMA even regionals can attract butts to seats.
I've got something to say; it better to burn out than to fade away!!!
Is it really funny Mayhem, please tell me its funny.
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Oddly enough, 5% of people who watch the sport or cover it know this meeting happened. You reach to far, nothing more then a lunch between people in the same industry
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I think its fairly obvious
WWE and UFC are both in talks to buy stake in the G4 channel. This would likely be their main topic of discussion. What they discussed about it, who knows.
A possible partnership? Or prehaps they were sizing each other up for the upcoming battle over G4. Just gauging each others intentions.
by makaveli158 on Jul 22, 2011 11:22 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
That'd be great.
There is no way UFC can have a channel to themselves without over playing the same crap over and over…
But if they bought it with WWE, that would be awesome. You could have some classic wrestling matches, some WWE movies, old PPV’s. With a good mix of everything UFC has to offer. I’d def purchase that.
"I don't believe in an eye for an eye, I believe in two eyes for an eye" – Bas Rutten
"Travis Lutter is the Michael Jordan of BJJ" – Mike Goldberg
"If Tyson Griffin was a girl, I’d say he has a badonkadonk." – Joe Rogan
fans of mma would shit themselves in rage at that plan
they don’t like to mix their mma with their pro wrestling, pro wrestling is gay
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
I'd like it.
I ordered the fight channel.. And they just repeat the same shit all day, and only a little bit of it is any good at all.
Do you have any idea how many times I’ve watched “dream 6” They air it like twice a day.
There is just no way UFC can show programming without repeating the same stuff until it is brain numbing.
"I don't believe in an eye for an eye, I believe in two eyes for an eye" – Bas Rutten
"Travis Lutter is the Michael Jordan of BJJ" – Mike Goldberg
"If Tyson Griffin was a girl, I’d say he has a badonkadonk." – Joe Rogan
That's why I stay away from channels like that. You are better off buying the DVDs or streaming the matches/fights you want.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
I cancelled that channel long ago
So many hours of bullshit on there. They rarely show anything I would want to see.
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I feel the same way, but every so often they show something good..
So now I keep it and wait..
I’m such a sucker.
"I don't believe in an eye for an eye, I believe in two eyes for an eye" – Bas Rutten
"Travis Lutter is the Michael Jordan of BJJ" – Mike Goldberg
"If Tyson Griffin was a girl, I’d say he has a badonkadonk." – Joe Rogan
I say this
Who gives a shit what they talked about. I sure as hell dont. Let them talk to whoever they want. Why is there even a story about it?
Maybe so jackasses like myself will make a post and they make a little from their advertisers…
enzo
They spent the afternoon making fun of Bobby Lashley
He does suck….
TFK
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Making fun of Bobby is a great way to pass the time.
I think you’re onto something here.
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Its mind boggling how that clown gets any type of MMA related attention or the opportunity to even compete in MMA.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
Strikeforce tried to trick everybody
I’m just glad they weren’t able to find fighters bad enough for him to beat. They tried of course, but they didn’t realize that their cans were better than him.
I’m only sorry that I didn’t get to see that Dave Batista guy get knocked out too.
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Why wouldnt he get attention or the opportunity he actually trains to compete
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Because he sucks?
Why should he get more attention than people that are actually talented at the sport he “competes” in?
SF put too much into a no-talent hack such as Bobby. It was poor planning and they tried to fool people into believing he had a lick of talent for ratings. That bothers most sensible fans of the sport.
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Maybe that is true, but OJR said he doesnt deserve to compete. Anyone who trains in some discipline deserves too. And its not that he deserves the attention he has been given it, didnt ask for it.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone deserves to compete
Not just anybody deserves to be on a SF main card.
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nobody deserves anything
Lashley was given a name in MMA because of his affiliation with fake wrestling. Sure he had a real wrestling background, but you never saw Ben Askren (an NCAA champ) getting a main card for his first fight.
Fuck him. He is bad for the sport.
"Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, from the Ancient Greek for "thief" and "rule," is a term applied to a government subject to control fraud that takes advantage of governmental corruption to extend the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats), via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service. The term means "rule by thieves".
Everybody deserves an oppurtunity to compete somewhere.
Why do you think anyone has the right to tell LAshley he’s not allowed to try MMA because he wrestled for Dana first? He was a collegiate wrestler, he deserves (like any free human being) the chance to TRY MMA. Just not at SF.
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wrestled for Vince first, not Dana.
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yeah but didn't he wrestled at 185 or so?
that dude is shooting some great stuff
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
In College he was well below 200 pounds
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
it does raises some questions
at least brock was just as massive in his college years
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
Yeah it does I agree. Especially since his frame is so enlarged. When a guy like Overeem has a build that looks like it could support a more full frame has massive weight gain it seems more natural. Bobby’s looks unnatural and forced.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Lashley was the Armed Forces champion at 171 pounds. This was after college. He would have been in his mid-20s at that weight.
Times have changed for sailors these days, when I'm at port I get what I need. Not Havanas or bananas or daiquiris, but that American creation on which I feed.
Thats insane
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
he looks like
he got pumped up with an air hose
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
It is exactly how it looked
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
And exactly how his muscles performed.
My disdain for Chael Sonnen surpasses OJR's disdain for Kimbo. FACT.
LOL! True as hell
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not at Strikeforce? Why does a guy need to fight in regional shows if he is offered a better opportunity. Again not LAshleys fault, blame the promotion.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I am blaming the promotion. That is all I'm doing.
I don’t blame bobby at all. Same as I don’t blame Brock for taking his giant contracts.
I blamed Scott Coker in every post I’ve made on the topic.
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It just seems like everyone attacks Lashley. He is bad for the sport, he doesnt deserve this, he shouldnt be doing this.
The guy is taking the best opportunities given to him for his career. I dont deserve a UFC title shot tomorrow but the hell if I wouldnt say yes if they called right now.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
For sure
Some people don’t know where to direct their anger.
I’d take a UFC title fight tomorrow if it was offered as well. I blame Scott for trying to fool us with Bobby. Giving him can after can trying to pull the wool over the eyes of fans of this sport. I don’t see a thing Bobby did wrong in any of this.
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We as fans need to recognize that. He wasnt a credible HW, he was a green possibly good prospect on his ways up. Coker had to bill it that way to sell it, he is a promoter after all.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Then Lashley should not have talked like he was going to be great
See: Walker, Herschel
Lashley hyped himself in SF like he hyped himself in the WWE. Big difference between taking what you are given and playing a role, IMO.
"Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, from the Ancient Greek for "thief" and "rule," is a term applied to a government subject to control fraud that takes advantage of governmental corruption to extend the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats), via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service. The term means "rule by thieves".
Do you blame him? he came from WWE where mic work is just as important as physical performance. Plus, all of us know the more you talk the more money possibly coming your way
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
you hit the nail on the head
Money
The only reason Lashley is even in MMA.
"Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, from the Ancient Greek for "thief" and "rule," is a term applied to a government subject to control fraud that takes advantage of governmental corruption to extend the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats), via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service. The term means "rule by thieves".
You cant really say that though. How do you know the WWE wasnt paying more?
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i bet wwe was paying more
but didn’t he already jumped ship to tna? and by the things i’ve read, tna doesn’t pay that well and it’s generally a shitty place to be in
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
Lashley isnt making millions in MMA like he could have in WWE. I dont think this is about money
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
He left WWE because they fired his wife after she refused to do a storyline
She was supposed to marry Teddy Long (who’s twice her age) so that her bf Edge would be in control of SD. She refused, got sacked and Vickie Guerrero (Eddies widow) played the part instead. Bobby was pissed and bailed when his contract expired.
Anderson Silva is still the P4P King of MMA and will be 14-0 in the UFC after Rio, Jon Jones is the future P4P King and will smash Quittin inside 3 rounds and I told everyone from the start that Cain and JDS were the best 2 HWs in the world. TRT is the get out clause for drug cheats and UFC 133 officially sucks.
by David W-S on Jul 22, 2011 1:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Interesting, how do people find out about this sort of stuff? Did Bobby release it?
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Lashley isn't, but Brock was/is
considering the comparisons (and Kimbo Slcie) it is not hard for me to beleive that Lashley assumed hw could make millions.
Same with Bautista.
"Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, from the Ancient Greek for "thief" and "rule," is a term applied to a government subject to control fraud that takes advantage of governmental corruption to extend the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats), via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service. The term means "rule by thieves".
brock talked alot of shit himself
the only difference is that it was right…ANS is right, its all a part of their background
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
Brock proved himself. Bobby has not. Big distinction there.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
Agreed.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Jay (since this is way down, now)
If Lashley had earned the right to compete, then he deserves it. He deserves the right to try to compete, IMO. Maybe this is just semantics to you, though.
"Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, from the Ancient Greek for "thief" and "rule," is a term applied to a government subject to control fraud that takes advantage of governmental corruption to extend the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats), via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service. The term means "rule by thieves".
You don't have to earn the right to compete
We live in a free society that allows us to do as we please (within reason). Anyone that wants to try MMA, should be allowed to TRY.
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Fuck that - I want a facist MMA. You gotta have the goods. What's next - women with flat asses in bikini contests? O_o
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
Dont get me started on that OJR, if you come to bikini contest look good in one damnit.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
No flat asses in bikinis. That's a universal law!
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
Preach OJR, come down here and be our body inspector next time.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
you just said what I did.
and you do have to earn the right ot compete by getting approved by the AC where you are fighting.
"Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, from the Ancient Greek for "thief" and "rule," is a term applied to a government subject to control fraud that takes advantage of governmental corruption to extend the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats), via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service. The term means "rule by thieves".
I misunderstood your post
We agree.
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He didnt ask to be headlined or main carded. So channel that frustration towards promotions not the fighter.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
You see him as a credible fighter or as someone who has serious aspirations, ANS. I see him as a charlatan (sp) trying to gain advantage of MMA's rise in popularity.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
If that was the case he should quit because the MMA world saw Griggs crush him. And alot of people still think Griggs is a nobody. If he was trying to cash in he would stop now.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
He did quit - he pulled out of his latest fight for "personal reasons." You typing your post with a straight face or are you playing Devil's Advocate?
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
I think ‘charlatan’ is the best word I have ever seen anywhere on UFC Mania or MMA Mania.
Times have changed for sailors these days, when I'm at port I get what I need. Not Havanas or bananas or daiquiris, but that American creation on which I feed.
So I spelled it right? I need to keep my smart card with your geniuses here on Mania. ***wiping sweat off my brow***
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
We dont know if he is “done” or if there is a real legit personal issue
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
One can only imagine what is wrong with Bobby. But that loss revealed that the holes we saw in his previous fight were loud and permanent.
If he decides to pull out of his next fight or comes out with a song and dance about wanting to spend time with family then we know that his entire MMA run was a farce.
I've got something to say; it better to burn out than to fade away!!!
Is it really funny Mayhem, please tell me its funny.
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Of course he did
His managers asked for more than $2k/$2k for his first contract didn’t they? He wanted to be paid like a main eventer, but he was a fraud as a fighter. Shame on the general p[ublic for not seeing that.
It takes two to tango. Lashley is not innocent here.
"Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, from the Ancient Greek for "thief" and "rule," is a term applied to a government subject to control fraud that takes advantage of governmental corruption to extend the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats), via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service. The term means "rule by thieves".
Lashley cashed in on the best opportunity, how does that make him not innocent. He was looking out for his best interests.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone would do the same thing
that being said, had brock never made the jump and been successful with it, lashley never would have either…he cashed in on all the brock hype by tricking promoters into thinking hed be the next coming of lesnar
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
I didnt see it like that, that is a great point. Unless he would make the jump becoming the first “Brock Lesnar” basically.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
he knew he didnt have the chops though
never in a million years would he have done it first
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
I guess we will never know. I am sure someone else would have if Brock did not.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Ulf - exaclty how I feel.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
Dana looks like Bas Rutten up there...
And Vince looks like shit..
by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Jul 22, 2011 11:35 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Truth.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
Regardless, steroids dont make you look good and muscular. You actually have to work out. You dont just stick the needle in and boom you look massive.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Well the guy says not too many guys at 65 look like that to which you responded with the steroid comment. Too many people overlook the fact that they still have to work hard to look that way, they are just taking shortcuts to reach that point.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
shortcuts?
you are saying that Vince McMahon could keep his body in that kind of shape with only hard work at age 65?
Bullshit.
"Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, from the Ancient Greek for "thief" and "rule," is a term applied to a government subject to control fraud that takes advantage of governmental corruption to extend the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats), via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service. The term means "rule by thieves".
Maybe not that massive. But with hard work sure he could still be in fine shape. Maybe I should send you a picture of my grandpa. Fine shape, no steroids.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Send a pee sample with said pics
Can’t just trust anyone when they say “no steroids”. You know how it is.
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Haha, no but seriously… swims every morning, jogs every night. A little bit of weights throughout the week. Looks awesome. Even had a knee surgery.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
That's awesome
All of my grandparents are dead. You’re a lucky man.
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You can have him Jay, he doesnt like MMA
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Blasphemy
Keep him, he’s not welcome here. :)
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Surprisingly enough, alot of the family does not like MMA. Supports it for me sure, liking it? Not so much
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose my opinion might change if someone in my family was doing it
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Most of them still like WWE though which is the weird part.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I could still watch WWE
If Hogan and Ricky the Dragon were still the stars. I don’t know any of the new people and I don’t care to know them.
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I liked the Ultimate Warrior, even met the guy who lives in New Mexico
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He was a piss poor showman
Everytime he opened his mouth he ruined his character.
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He is borderline psycho from what I have seen of him in real life
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
warrior would blow up after that 2 minute sprint to the ring. Randy Savage had to carry him to a great match at Wrestlemania.
I've got something to say; it better to burn out than to fade away!!!
Is it really funny Mayhem, please tell me its funny.
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It would prove who you are...
but there a re a myriad of reasons he is in “fine shape”. I bet he is not ripped in those pictures, but lean. Vince hasn’t been lean since he was 15.
"Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, from the Ancient Greek for "thief" and "rule," is a term applied to a government subject to control fraud that takes advantage of governmental corruption to extend the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats), via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service. The term means "rule by thieves".
really? ah, fuck!
let me go cancel my online order of nandrolone, fuck having to work out
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
Exactly. So many people think they jam the needle then its magic.
But I have heard of some of his workouts before and have been told he is a madman.
Most if not all steroid abusers, famous and non tend to be hardcore work out junkies.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
its all a part of the addictive personality
theyre addicted to the steroids AND the workout
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
literally one of the most obvious uses of steroids ever
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
60 in that picture..
Not that it matters.. just sayin’
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Joint venture????
Maybe they discussed a joint venture to buy G4 and have a UFC / WWE channel? Just a thought.
You have been branded Holland
Turn in your MMA card. You too Geno.
"Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, from the Ancient Greek for "thief" and "rule," is a term applied to a government subject to control fraud that takes advantage of governmental corruption to extend the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats), via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service. The term means "rule by thieves".
A = Awesome?
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Gone for 2 months
and come back ass kissing…
SMH
"Kleptocracy, alternatively cleptocracy or kleptarchy, from the Ancient Greek for "thief" and "rule," is a term applied to a government subject to control fraud that takes advantage of governmental corruption to extend the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats), via the embezzlement of state funds at the expense of the wider population, sometimes without even the pretense of honest service. The term means "rule by thieves".
Well I didnt know what the A stood for?
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
You didn't read the article?
For shame, ANS. For shame.
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One of this sport’s worst kept secrets is how many mixed martial arts fans have been (and still are) fans of professional wrestling, though few would admit it due to the Scarlett letter that gets assigned upon such an admission.
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That isnt a true statement? And I was just messing with Ulf, I knew what the A stood for.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
oh
When you said you didn’t know what the A stood for, I thought you were being real.
Starting a petition to bring Cote back to the UFC. Who's with me?
Sorry, I was just messing around. This Pro Wrestling/MMA thing always stirs people up just a little
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Vince thought he was posing for "Cunt of the Decade" magazine
Only to find out that Dana already took that title.
" Its a good thing you look good in that suit, cos that's all you're gonna be doing - wearing a suit."
Damn...I chuckled.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
Dana wants to hire Cena to promote MMA.
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he already did, didn't you hear?
jake shields was cena’s first student.
he poked gsp in the eye and told him “you can’t see me!”. Too bad he didn’t learn any finishers or he’d be the champ
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
no i mean like they coming to events and challenging fighters in a fake fashion
like Undertaker did Lesnar. Like HHH can challenge Cain to a fight. Unfortunately, I only know like 3 wrestlers from today’s guys. Been such a long time since I actually watched wrassling.
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by SheepleBuster on Jul 22, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
That was great, vhw. I laughed.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
Dana looks like a str8 douche in that pic.
Mens fitness U kidding me? Who wants a body like ufc prez Dana white =p
No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth
by d*locc on Jul 22, 2011 1:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Mrs Dana White?
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Jul 22, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
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