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UFC Quick Quote: Lorenzo Fertitta calls for random testing to end TRT abuse

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"What you can't have are guys abusing this to the point where their levels are at some super-human factor, giving them this performance enhancement. There's got to be more random testing. It seems like, possibly, guys are getting outside the boundary while they're training and managing it down where once the week of the fight [has arrived], they take the test and they're fine. I think that there needs to be this random testing to make sure no one's abusing it. I think we came off with a pretty strong response to Nate Marquardt, and kind how we feel about TRT. Our stance is we're working with commissions to say 'look this whole thing has got to come to an end.' If you are going to have some kind of therapy, not only can you not be at the top end of the range, you can't be anywhere near performance enhancing."

UFC owner Lorenzo Fertitta (via Yahoo Sports) is speaking out against testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) abuse in the wake of Great-gate back on June 26 in Pittsburgh. Nate Marquardt, who nearly sabotaged the UFC on Versus 4 telecast after testing out of range with the Pennsylvania State Athletic Commission, joins Chael Sonnen, Dan Henderson and Todd Duffee on the ever-growing list of current and former Zuffa fighters using TRT. But is TRT, in and of itself, a performance enhancer? Or only when abused to help gain a competitive edge? Anyone think random testing is the answer? Or will fighters find a way to circumnavigate that as well?

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Look at those guns

I think Lorenzo needs the TRT test

by ChuckMastaCheese on Jul 20, 2011 1:18 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Bicep implants

"Dak is going to punch you with sunshine and rainbows for saying that. ." - TheGreg

by Dakatak on Jul 20, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

i wouldnt ever use anythign like that but i have no problem with people using it as long as its not to gain an advantage/cheat in a profession etc

by Simon West on Jul 20, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You leave scott coker alone!

At least his promotion had free shows!

"Fuck Ceasar Gracie, and fuck the fuckin' Diaz brothers! Fuck'em all! I bury those cock-a-roaches!"-Rory MacDonald

by Fat Daddy Doobs on Jul 20, 2011 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Don't forget Gary Shaw

Starting a petition to bring Cote back to the UFC. Who's with me?

by jay. on Jul 20, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

now by "run" do you mean "pays his RBs to carry him piggy-back"?

"Fuck Ceasar Gracie, and fuck the fuckin' Diaz brothers! Fuck'em all! I bury those cock-a-roaches!"-Rory MacDonald

by Fat Daddy Doobs on Jul 20, 2011 1:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah he and uncle Dana have beefed the hell up a crazy amount in the past five or so years…..look at old pictures of pencil necked Dana compared to now with his constant wearing of smeduim Tees that look like they were painted on him.

by Modusopks on Jul 20, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah yes..

When Dana became B.L.A.F…. but he’s not fighting so there’s no need to check his testosterone or PEDs levels! His ass mustve looked like a pincushion those first 3yrs!

"Fuck Ceasar Gracie, and fuck the fuckin' Diaz brothers! Fuck'em all! I bury those cock-a-roaches!"-Rory MacDonald

by Fat Daddy Doobs on Jul 20, 2011 2:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I treated it like one, too.

Times have changed for sailors these days, when I'm at port I get what I need. Not Havanas or bananas or daiquiris, but that American creation on which I feed.

by P-Dub on Jul 20, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

did Capt. Paycheck loosen it up for ya?

And people say he never “earned” those title shots!

"Fuck Ceasar Gracie, and fuck the fuckin' Diaz brothers! Fuck'em all! I bury those cock-a-roaches!"-Rory MacDonald

by Fat Daddy Doobs on Jul 20, 2011 2:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Huge guns!

The guns and the dollar bills, hoe much good pussy is this guy pulling eh? (no homo)

'How's taste my pee pee pee?'

by theCloser on Jul 20, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

and in Vegas?

he has his pick of the litter

I am a Spider fan, you dirty bastard. If Spider was fighting Jesus, I would have cheered Spider. - OJR

by Ulf Murphy on Jul 20, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

true dat

not gonna lie, jealous

'How's taste my pee pee pee?'

by theCloser on Jul 20, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

not me

mo money, mo problems, but I’d switch for a week or two. ;)

I am a Spider fan, you dirty bastard. If Spider was fighting Jesus, I would have cheered Spider. - OJR

by Ulf Murphy on Jul 20, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

how about the ufc dish out some cash and implement the random tests theirselves!

that would never happen, and if you aint willing to do that,…then i would rather not hear from you mr. lorenzo

by John G. on Jul 20, 2011 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Doesn't that put them in a place

for a conflict of interest? There;s no players union like the NFL, so I would be concerned if I were a fighter to have a non-3rd party entity controlling the testing and outcome of said tests.

"Dak is going to punch you with sunshine and rainbows for saying that. ." - TheGreg

by Dakatak on Jul 20, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are right they should be doing their own testing

But they should test to make sure their fighters are going to be able to compete and not pull a Nate on them. Or a Chael and waste a title shot opportunity.

It's all about the entertainment.

by VicDundee on Jul 20, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

it is about time. A big gun like this can affect some real fear and change.

by TTB on Jul 20, 2011 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Ending abuse...not use

The use is not necessarily in question, the abuse or intention of using testosterone to SUPRAtherapeutic levels needs to be more tightly monitored.

Wags

by DocWagner on Jul 20, 2011 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

A recreational bodybuilder using reasonable doses of mild steroids for looks is fine in my book.

by NateDogg77 on Jul 20, 2011 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

The Rightmost Portion of That Pic is Stretched

Making his back and arm look bigger than they are. But he is still huge.

by G Squat on Jul 20, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm all for it

But it would have nice for him to take this stand up before trt got so mainstream.

by goldmouth on Jul 20, 2011 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Ban it all

And test randomly. If you fail a test, you lose all of the benefits Zuffa just put out.

Starting a petition to bring Cote back to the UFC. Who's with me?

by jay. on Jul 20, 2011 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Unless you're a loud talking realtor

Who makes enough of a show that it helps PPV buys (even though you got caught lying to the commission about TRT).

Double standard that Sonnen was “treated unfairly” but Marquart gets the lifetime ban. Proof will be future infractions as the line has been drawn in the sand by the UFC.

by kmdubya on Jul 20, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

they can still abuse grease

fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.

by vhw_ on Jul 20, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like you abuse the grease jokes?

I think that’s a bit much.

Starting a petition to bring Cote back to the UFC. Who's with me?

by jay. on Jul 20, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess i could always try the hgh jokes

fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.

by vhw_ on Jul 20, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because GSP is the one person you think of when you think of steroids?

He’s always been built like that.

Starting a petition to bring Cote back to the UFC. Who's with me?

by jay. on Jul 20, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

For GSP it's more like performance-enhancing gayroids.

Times have changed for sailors these days, when I'm at port I get what I need. Not Havanas or bananas or daiquiris, but that American creation on which I feed.

by P-Dub on Jul 20, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

His performance is already enhanced by being Canadian

Steroids would just be overkill.

Starting a petition to bring Cote back to the UFC. Who's with me?

by jay. on Jul 20, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice

I am a Spider fan, you dirty bastard. If Spider was fighting Jesus, I would have cheered Spider. - OJR

by Ulf Murphy on Jul 20, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

'How's taste my pee pee pee?'

by theCloser on Jul 20, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's Rogan

"Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong." - Dennis Miller

by djganesh on Jul 20, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad he’s calling for out of competition testing, that is the only way to ensure these guys on TRT are not abusing the stuff……like I’ve been saying Dana and Lorenzo aka the UFC have been really concerned about this TRT stuff and the reason they took such a hard stance with Nate was to show other fighters how serious they are about fighters who abuse TRT.

by Modusopks on Jul 20, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Get off the high horse Loren

And it’s funny the UFC’s policy on this stuff. When it come to having a hard position on roids, they say they have the highest standard because they comply with the athletic commissions and also do piss tests. But when the commission tests are shown to be an fn joke, all they have to say is taht “commissions know what they’re doing.” Just meaningless babbling from everyone. If only they got on my program and legalized that shit.

Sometimes, these things happen in MMA

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 20, 2011 2:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Joe Rogan

is still sporting a wallet chain!? Really?

"Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong." - Dennis Miller

by djganesh on Jul 20, 2011 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

if random testing is implemented, expect half of the UFC roster to be fired. Tons of guys are probably using.

by southpaw447 on Jul 20, 2011 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I am all for it, fuck the cheaters. Let's have a clean league

Current bets:
20$ on Fedor to finish Hendo against ViolentMike.
20$ on Diaz NOT to get finished by GSP against Yan117.
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by freenow82 on Jul 20, 2011 2:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Steroids drive sports

Steroid are also hardly cheating, only in the sense of it being against the rules. Steroids are for guys who want to train harder and train more, not for guys who don’t want to put in the work.

As long as there are sports, there will be steroids and quite frankly these Anti-Steroid crusades are an uphill, unwinnable battle, not to mention a waste of time and taxpayer dollars.

We want knockouts, home runs, gold medals, goals, touchdowns, but when we find out that it’s all from steroids we want to stick our head in the dirt.

If you could actually stop athletes from using, which you can’t, but if you could do you know how boring sports would be? Or better yet do you know how many sports would still be around?

Please, I also don’t see why fans get so pissed about guys using. Maybe your favorite fighter should stop being such a by the rule book pussy and starting injecting.

by southpaw447 on Jul 20, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way To Go Lorenzo!

1. Random, unannounced tests for all contract fighters
2. Any so-called Medical reasons for it must be verified by a UFC-selected better doctor (I mean really how many men that Fight For A Living can have a case of weak nuts? Really)
3. Absolute zero tolerancy on PEDs, you get caught and you are out of the UFC/SF for 12 months period, get caught twice and it is 24 months, get caaught a third time and you are finished, banned from the biggest promoter in the world

by kah on Jul 20, 2011 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Im all for it

I have randomly piss in a cup to work at the airport,if i can do it they can

by superev1l on Jul 20, 2011 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

What's the problem with TRT? If it were legal for free use (at normal dosis) we all win. More exciting fights, more good fighters.

The problem is the ABUSE of roids, that must be prohibited. But normal use, below some levels is totally secure and we all win.
All this “figth canceled due to injury” will end.

by CerBB on Jul 20, 2011 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

All this "figth canceled due to injury" will end.

You cannot be serious

Current bets:
20$ on Fedor to finish Hendo against ViolentMike.
20$ on Diaz NOT to get finished by GSP against Yan117.
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by freenow82 on Jul 20, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone else notice that his right arm is REALLY small? FAIL!

by Bob the Builder on Jul 20, 2011 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

What happens if Dana or Lorenzo fail a test?

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by SheepleBuster on Jul 20, 2011 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Coker as a late replacement

Current bets:
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20$ on Diaz NOT to get finished by GSP against Yan117.
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by freenow82 on Jul 20, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can't test for douche bag-ery.

Although you cannot mask for it either.

by kmdubya on Jul 20, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

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