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Tap, Nap or Snap: Five Most Shocking Submissions in MMA History

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We're only halfway through the 2001 fight campaign but UFC 132 has made a strong case for "Card of the Year." Incredible knockouts, great title fights, and one of the biggest surprise endings I have ever seen. The "Huntington Beach Bad Boy" left a large part of the viewing audience with its mouth agape.

Ortiz came into the fight as much as a +400 underdog and absolutely shocked us all by stumbling Bader and finishing him with a guillotine choke just 1:56 into round one. Ortiz appears to have revived his MMA career, at least for now, with the upset and has even earned a rematch against one of the top prospects in the division, Rashad Evans.

Not bad for a guy on the verge of expulsion.

So this got me thinking. What have been the most shocking submission victories in MMA history? I'll give you my top five. First, I want to specify the criteria for my list. These are not submissions that were just incredible to watch. There are plenty of those, even from this year.

Pablo Garza's flying triangle, Chan Sung Jung's twister, Werdum tapping Fedor, and many more that I could pick from in recent history. This list is made up of guys who shocked us all for a different reason. It could be because nobody thought they even knew what a rear naked choke was, they submitted someone who was a far better grappler, or in one special case, I thought a man was dead and he tapped his opponent only seconds later.

This list is not just about the submission, it's about the fighter's who pulled them off.

Star-divide

#5 Royce Gracie vs Ken Shamrock

Oh wow, Royce Gracie submitting someone. What's so special here? Settle down and let me explain. Travel back with me to 1993. You're rocking your hammer pants and fanny pack. "U Can't Touch This" was playing on your walkman and you happen to stroll into the McNichols Arena in Denver, Colorado. There's an event there that you've never heard of called the UFC, but you heard that a bunch of guys were supposed to beat the stuffing out of each other. You see a guy from Brazil who appears to weigh about 75 pounds and a big hulking American competing in the same event. You've witnessed Gracie defeat Art Jimmerson by......intimidation and Ken Shamrock has defeated Patrick Smith with a heel hook.

Now, these two men are set to square off. Royce Gracie is known for some strange fighting style called "Brazilian Jiu Jitsu."  Royce Gracie defeats Ken Shamrock At the time, no one knew anything of this specific art and thought the same thing as Ken Shamrock thought when he saw him standing across the cage in a gi. This guy must be some type of karate guy. This should be over quickly. Gracie shoots in for a takedown and doesn't land it but ends up in guard. Shamrock sits back for his second straight heel hook victory but Gracie follows him up. From there, Gracie eventually gets the back and locks in some sort of crazy choke which........WAIT! WHAT!?!?! Shamrock tapped?!?!

Knowing what we know now, all of it makes sense. But at the time, it was one of the most shocking victories in combat sports. It was time for the world to meet Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. And we all did in Denver, Colorado at UFC 1 thru a small guy named Royce Gracie who won the tournament and gave this garage sport called "BJJ" a platform to get noticed on.

#4 Tito Ortiz vs Ryan Bader

The Hunting Beach Bad Boy was, by most accounts, one fight away from that dark area called 'strongly suggested retirement'. The fans, MMA media, and the Vegas odds makers largely thought that Ryan Bader defeating Tito Ortiz was a lock. The real question was what would happen to Ortiz after the bout? Ryan Bader was one of the organization's young superstars who had his stardom squashed by another up and comer, Jon Jones. Ortiz was given to Bader as a rebound fight and it was largely thought that this fight woud propel Bader back into the light heavyweight mix. Apparently, Tito didn't get the memo.

Ortiz shocked us all by landing a short right to Bader's jaw which sent the young fighter to the mat. Bader recovered momentarily and attempted to get back to his feet but got caught in a guillotine, of all things, by the elder Ortiz. Tito Ortiz defeats Ryan Bader Ortiz sat back with the arm-in guillotine and held on until Bader was forced to tap just 1:56 into the first round.

This isn't the first time we've seen Ortiz nearly shock the world with his come from nowhere submissions. You will remember at UFC 84, Ortiz was taking a bruising at the hands of Lyoto Machida until he nearly locked in a triangle at the end of the third round. It was not the most technical submission and Machida would escape the submission and go on to defeat Ortiz by unanimous decision. Had Tito pulled this one off, it would have likely made this list instead of the guillotine he got on Bader.

Ortiz now has 3 total submission wins in his career. One of them was submission due to knees and the other came back in 2000. It has been an eleven year drought of submissions for the HB Bad Boy and it couldn't have come at a better time. The opponent, the stage, and the shock of this guillotine put it in the #4 spot.

#3 Matt Hughes vs Ricardo Almeida

Matt Hughes is a far cry from submission defecient. He has 18 submission wins in his 53 fight professional career. But at UFC 117, nobody expected to see any of the submission wizardry. Hughes was paired against Ricardo Almeida. Prior to his bout with Almeida, Hughes had defeated Renzo Gracie in a lackluster three round affair in Abu Dhabi. Almeida would get the chance for revenge at UFC 117.

Almeida is a long time student of Renzo's. In fact, Ricardo was the very first person to ever recieve a black belt under the legendary Renzo Gracie. Almeida is now a 3rd degree black belt with 4 Brazillian National Titles in jiu jitsu, a Pan Am Gold, and a Silver Medal at the ADCC tournaments. Although Gracie might not have faired well against the farmboy from Iowa, surely his younger and more explosive student Ricardo would be able to handle him. Especially if the two battled it out in the submission game.

The fight started with very little action. The two men circled on the outside exchanging a few punches and kicks. That was until Hughes landed a left hook that stumbled Almeida. Hughes rushed in and caught Almeida in a front headlock position. Matt Hughes defeats Ricardo AlmeidaIt was hard to see exactly what was happening in the transition but it appeared the Almeida had escaped the initial on slaught of Hughes. That was until he went flat to the mat unconscious.

During their time in the front headlock position, Hughes was locking up a modified anaconda choke that is rarely used in MMA. Most people, myself included, had no suspicion that Hughes was locking in anything that would be effective. Especially against a man of Almeida's caliber. But although it didn't look like much, there's no doubting that it did the job. Almeida went limp and fell to the mat forcing the ref to halt the bout at 3:15 of Round 1. Hughes, who has battled ups and downs in recent years, proved that he's still got some tricks up his sleeve. Including this "Farmaconda".

#2 Fedor vs Kevin Randleman

The Last Emperor has had some pretty impressive finishes in his career. Prior to the past two years, Fedor was the most feared man in MMA. Kevin Randleman slams FedorRegardless of organization. He had a nearly ten year run without a single loss. He wasn't facing bottom of the barrel fighters during this time either. He beat guys like Ricardo Arona, Renato Sobral, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira and Mirko Cro Cop. Although he had wins over all of these men, there is still none better than his victory over Kevin Randleman.

Fedor and Kevin Randleman squared off at Pride Critical Countdown 2004 in Saitama, Japan. Randleman was a powerful D-1 wrestler and former UFC champion who was coming off of a big upset win against Mirko Cro Cop. The two men would square off in the second round of the Pride Heavyweight Grand Prix.

Randleman used his wrestling to secure an early takedown and would eventually get Fedor's back in the ensuing scramble. Randleman took Fedor for a ride and tossed him to the canvas, head-first, with a German Suplex. Fedor submits Kevin Randleman with kimuraRandleman slammed him so hard that it's shocking Fedor would not only emerge without serious injury, he seemed to just shake it off.

Once on the ground, Fedor gained top position and transitioned quickly to a kimura and locked it in tight. Randleman was as likely surprised as the rest of us and was caught without an escape. Randleman tapped just 1:33 into Round 1. Say what you want about Fedor's recent years, moments like this make him one of the all time greats and his kimura over Kevin Randleman earns him the number 2 spot on my list.

#1 Anderson Silva vs Ryo Chonnen

C'mon, what else were you expecting? It's that famous gif you've seen a million times. Anderson Silva gets heel hooked by "that one guy". "That one guy"'s name is Ryo Chonan and there's probably a few things you didn't know about him.

We all are aware of "The Spider" Anderson Silva. Silva is widely considered the top pound for pound fighter in MMA and by the time it is all over, he may go down as the greatest mixed martial artist of all time. Ryo Chonan submits Anderson silva with heel hookBut back in 2004, before Silva became the "Anderson Silva" that we know today, he was fighting in Pride. Silva only has 4 losses in his 34 fight career and only 2 of those losses have been by submission. One of them will be have him "posterized" for years to come.

The man who defeated Silva that day, Ryo Chonan, has a much more mediocre record in MMA at just 19-12. But what you may not know about him, is that he only has 2 submission wins on his record. This gem and a fight back in 2002 where his opponent submitted to punches. That means that the only "legitimate" jiu jitsu submission win on his 31 fight record is this heel hook against one of the greatest current fighters in MMA. A rather interesting fact.

The end came 3:08 into Round 3 for Silva. "The Spider" may have won the war for 'MMA stardom' with Chonan, but Chonan won this battle. And this gif will live on for eternity to remind us of the night 'that one guy' scored an amazing flying heel-hook against one of the greatest of all time. Chonan may never get ranked #1 on anyone's top fighter list, but he easily got that spot on this one.

Honorable Mentions:
Kazushi "The Gracie Hunter" Sakuraba vs. Jason "Mayhem" Miller (DREAM 16)
Chris Leben vs. Yoshihiro Akiyama (UFC 116)
Brock Lesnar vs. Shane Carwin (UFC 116)

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Now it's time for you to tell me where I screwed up.  How would you edit the list?  Who would you add, who would you take away, and who gets honorable mentions? Pablos Garza's flying triangle at UFC 129? Chan Sung Jung's twister at UFC Fight Night 24?

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Forrest over Shogun??

Tito shouldn’t make a top 5 list in anything but ‘largest head’ or ‘worst excuse’ contest.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jul 20, 2011 8:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Loved that fight

Forrest has the tools to beat and compete with anyone at 205 but i think when he faced anderson silva he was beaten before the bell rung. He didn’t even try a gameplan.

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by Lesnar's striking coach on Jul 20, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

"shocking"

you saw titos sub coming? cause i didnt lol

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by magicmike on Jul 20, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exhausted fighter is rear naked choked? Not that shocking but the story of underdog submitting perceived best in division makes up for it.

by PML on Jul 20, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

#1 (tied)

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by Lesnar's striking coach on Jul 20, 2011 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

I've wondered

GSP was pretty broken after the Serra lost emotionally, so much to the point of needing therapy. Imagine if they said he tapped to strikes if that would have completely ruined him to the fans and himself.

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by Lesnar's striking coach on Jul 20, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's clear he tapped

We saw it, he knows he did it. Regardless of what it was called on paper. I’m not ruined and the belt around his waist tells me it didn’t ruin him either. He just thought it would be an NC for getting hit in the back of the head and was trying to stop the fight to get it reviewed.

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by U3O8man on Jul 20, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Except now he’s terrified of being hit. He plays it safe with positioning and jabs. He was once a devastating MMA machine, now he’s a chicken-hearted points fighter. So yes, he absolutely was ruined.

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by P-Dub on Jul 20, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then so is everyone else he fights

Because no one can seem to figure out how not to get out pointed by a chicken hearted fighter.

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Let those who worship evil’s might, Beware my power… Green Lantern’s light!"

by U3O8man on Jul 20, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

an exceptional chicken hearted fighter

that’s why he keeps on winning but he doesn’t enjoy fighting

fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.

by vhw_ on Jul 20, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, you wanna go?

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by U3O8man on Jul 20, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your Sig is quite retarded. Sure its impressive to control Fitch for 5 rounds than beat leites but I think killing leben and franklin and marquardt and belfort and griffin and irvin and subbing sonnen like he did and beat hendo and so on means hes not only controlled most of his Opposition which by the way are usually top 5 opponents with the exception of irvin, but he has finished them dramatically what has GSP done?

by Kelvy Rene Iturralde on Jul 21, 2011 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

think about this

Chael Sonnen was the undisputed number one contender and manhandled Silva for 23 minutes until the submission.

Fitch was the undisputed number one contender and never had more than 3 seconds of offensive advantage in the entire fight with GSP.

Which is the more dominant victory?

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by Ulf Murphy on Jul 21, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think

Someone that registers an account at 1am this morning, calls someones sig retarded and then drops a huge rambling run-on sentence will have a sniff of what you’re tying to relay to him here? I’m gonna go on a limb here and say…no.

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Let those who worship evil’s might, Beware my power… Green Lantern’s light!"

by U3O8man on Jul 21, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't profile stalk...

I am a Spider fan, you dirty bastard. If Spider was fighting Jesus, I would have cheered Spider. - OJR

by Ulf Murphy on Jul 21, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I looked

out of morbid curiosity. I usually look if I’ve never seen the name before.

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Let those who worship evil’s might, Beware my power… Green Lantern’s light!"

by U3O8man on Jul 21, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

really?

I only look if the person says something worthwhile. That way I will remember them.

I didn’t look at his. ;)

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by Ulf Murphy on Jul 21, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

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Let those who worship evil’s might, Beware my power… Green Lantern’s light!"

by U3O8man on Jul 21, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well it's kinda cherry picking putting GSP

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by doonerthesooner on Jul 21, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

's most dominat performance against Silva's least

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by doonerthesooner on Jul 21, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

replace it with any other Spider win

GSP dominating Fitch is more impressive, to me, than any of Silva’s wins, excepting the first Ace TKO.

MW has been historically the weakest division in MMA, except for a time at HW. The competition level between Silav and GSP is not even close. The difference is that Spider is a finisher and that means something to people, for some reason.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jul 21, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hendo was pretty impressive as well and the second Rich fight.

Silva also didn’t get knocked the fuck out by Matt Serra. I do believe the competition level between the two is similar, especially because Silva has more fights to choose from in his thirteen defenses compared to Gsp’s 7 or 8

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by doonerthesooner on Jul 21, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Silva has 8 defenses of his UFC belt. GSP has 6 (interim "defense" to unify doesn't count for me)

Even removing Cote and Leites to match 6 versus 6, I think GSP’s opposition has been a higher level.

Maybe I will write a fanpost comparing them as I want to see this from a statistical standpoint. Overall record, record in last 5 leading into title fight, consensus ranking, etc.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jul 21, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like the idea

My biggest knocks against GSP’s defenses are Hardy and Alves. Silva I don’t really know, Leites and Cote would be the worst ones but you already took those out. Hendo, Franklin, Marquart, Maia, Sonnen, Belfort is a pretty good list.

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by doonerthesooner on Jul 21, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hardy might swing it in Silva's favor

When GSP fought Alves, Thiago had only lost to Fitch twice in like 4 years.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jul 21, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was on the best streak of his career too.

His wins over Kos really validates him but his wrestling deficiency in a wrestling heavy division hurts him.

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by doonerthesooner on Jul 21, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! NC for hittin the back of the head...OMG...HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Nice try and excuse tho

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by Big-dawg on Jul 21, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was waiting for someone to bite on that

welcome to the party dawg, just waking up from a Diaz circle jerk? Or did Seagal have you joked out in his closet?

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Let those who worship evil’s might, Beware my power… Green Lantern’s light!"

by U3O8man on Jul 21, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

boooo..You're a GSP fan so I dont need to insult you...you're already pitiful

I like bacon...
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by Big-dawg on Jul 21, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's hurtful

but I’ll be ok.

"In brightest day, in blackest night, No evil shall escape my sight
Let those who worship evil’s might, Beware my power… Green Lantern’s light!"

by U3O8man on Jul 22, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

But not the “submission” type I was going with

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by Kc bjj on Jul 20, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

thank you sir

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by magicmike on Jul 20, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Never gets old

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by Big-dawg on Jul 21, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, Mackens Semerzier vs. Wagnney Fabiano

Some no-name with maybe five pro fights subs one of the best grapplers in the entire division.

Way crazier than Tito’s.

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by Johnny WF on Jul 20, 2011 9:36 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

That's a good one

I thought about that one but had a real hard time tracing down the gifs and things for it. Sad excuse I know but good suggestion

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by Kc bjj on Jul 20, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

everyones gonna throw in their two cents

theres other choices out there, but your list was good

"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
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by magicmike on Jul 20, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

so was Werdum vs Fedor

werdum is crazy on the ground, but it wa very surprising to see Fedor tap within 2 minutes

and forrest/shogun is definately there

hell i was more surprised at Jim Miller tapping Oliveria than some of these

by Newfie3 on Jul 20, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Truth,

But with how flaky Wagney has been I don’t know

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by doonerthesooner on Jul 20, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw that on live

It was fucking awesome, then I met semerzier afterwards

by antone04 on Jul 20, 2011 10:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed, that was extremely shocking

by PML on Jul 20, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

that clip always makes me think of Don Mclean's American Pie

with of course changing the lyrics a bit – So bye-bye mr canadian pie drove my chevy to the levee but the levee was dry and them good old boys were drinkin’ whisky and rye singin’ this’ll be the day that exciting gsp dies"

"Ability is of little account without opportunity."

by AndrewCr1 on Jul 20, 2011 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

lol lol yeah it totally was haha

"Ability is of little account without opportunity."

by AndrewCr1 on Jul 20, 2011 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

we understand

another month before primary/elementary starts back up again

by Newfie3 on Jul 20, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fedor Werdum
Diaz Gomi

by danago on Jul 20, 2011 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

like I know Mitsuyo Maeda stated that the objective of the smart fighter

is to keep the fight located in the phase of combat that best suited his own strength but damn we need fighters to take calculated risk to finish opponents or we might as well watch NCAA wrestling

"Ability is of little account without opportunity."

by AndrewCr1 on Jul 20, 2011 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

it was one of the most shocking turnarounds in mma history

 it’s easy to say that after the fact but everyone who was watching it was shocked.

by Elron Hubburd on Jul 20, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had to keep telling myself that it was gonna happen

I was still surprised

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by doonerthesooner on Jul 20, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is because even though he is submitted alot he is being submitted by legit grapplers

by PML on Jul 20, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gracie vs Severn

Finals of UFC 4. Gracie was well known by this point, but Severn was a Beast (pun intended) and was not like anything we had seen to that point; a big man who was an elite wrestler. Those two styles have now gone on to be the back bone of the ground game in MMA. It looked like Severn was in a dominant position after about 15 minutes of fighting, and all of a sudden he was tapping. At the time nobody had any idea what a triangle choke was, Severn included. Final major stamp on Gracie’s career, one of the most dramatic and at the time unforseen submissions of all time.

by domino effect on Jul 20, 2011 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

2001 fight campaign?

by jslim on Jul 20, 2011 11:30 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

2001 fight campaign?

by jslim on Jul 20, 2011 11:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Cole is legit so that wasnt surprising. Burns being a blue belt was very shocking.

by PML on Jul 20, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cole's was just shocking because it happened at the end of the 3rd round

of a fight he had been dominated up until that point.

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by TheGreg on Jul 21, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again, people get caught up in the moment. Their is no way tito should be on this list. Was it a great, feelgood moment for tito and his fans? Absolutely. Was it one of the top 5 submissions of all time? No way.

by MMA Boss on Jul 20, 2011 12:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

This list sucks.

Fedor Emelianenko. 9 years undefeated. 7 years #1 ranked Heavyweight. The absolute Greatest Fighter of All Time.

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by David Emerson on Jul 20, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

positive reinforcement is always appreciated.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jul 20, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, I read that as though it was being screamed.

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by *Californication* on Jul 20, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

HOW COME???

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by theCloser on Jul 20, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol, how is this not number 1?

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by Chorongota on Jul 20, 2011 7:25 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

agreed, but I think he would admit that it slipped his mind

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by freenow82 on Jul 20, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really didn't forget about it

It was shocking that Fedor lost yes, but not shocking at all that he got submitted. If you know anything about Werdum, it was clear that his only option was to submit Fedor. So if this was “The Most Shocking Losses” list, it would have been #1 or #2 but it’s not a shocking submission at all. We knew that Werdum was the superior grappler and so for it to be a finish by submission for Werdum was the only logical way it could end for him. I get that it’s just completely shocking overall but not a “shocking submisssion”

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by Kc bjj on Jul 21, 2011 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

HA!

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by freenow82 on Jul 21, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Werdum is a bum. They should let him fight Big foot so that big foot can squash his dumbass. Or maybe Dana is worried about Werdum flopping to the ground like a complete moron all fight again. The only thing Werdum should be on is biggest d bag ever.

by BrockLesnar Budlight on Jul 20, 2011 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

You do know Werdum has already beaten big foot right?

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by doonerthesooner on Jul 21, 2011 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

agreed

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by Ulf Murphy on Jul 21, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's because Frank Trigg is to RNCs what Chael Sonnen is to triangles.

Great come-from-behind win for sure, but far from a “shocking submission”.

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by TheGreg on Jul 21, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have you heard the story that Bruce Buffer choked out Trigg in an elavator?

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by doonerthesooner on Jul 21, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have not. Please share.

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by TheGreg on Jul 21, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bruce said he was partying in Vegas with Dana and Frank

They got into an elevator and they were drunk so they started horsing around and Bruce hit the take down and took Franks back and choked him out. The door opened and some chicks were standing in the lobby and the elevator door opens and Frank is being choked out but Buffer.

That is the gist of it if you find the story it’s better rehearsed. I think it was posted on Middleeasy.com

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by doonerthesooner on Jul 22, 2011 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll have to check it out, thanks.

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by TheGreg on Jul 22, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

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