Lyoto Machida turned down fight against Rashad Evans because he wanted 'Anderson Silva money'
by Geno Mrosko on Jul 13, 2011 8:12 PM EDT
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And the UFC had no intention of giving it to him.
When Phil Davis dropped out of his scheduled UFC 133 main event fight against Rashad Evans, a replacement was needed to salvage a fight card that was already lacking in hype to begin with.
Once Tito Ortiz initially turned the fight down (he has since reconsidered), the powers that be put in a call to Brazil to ask Lyoto Machida if he was willing to step in.
Apparently he was -- but only if the UFC was willing to pay him "Anderson Silva money." That's according to The MMA Show, who got the scoop directly from Dana White.
The response to Machida's demand was simple: "Accomplish what Anderson Silva has and you will be paid like him."
Sounds harsh, but White and company didn't make their millions by kowtowing to fighters and not playing hardball at the negotiating table. That said, do you agree with Machida for demanding that much money? And what about White for his graceful denial?
Sound off, Maniacs.
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oh oh....
Is he gonna try to set up a machida nog or machida ando fight now to prove a point lol
Sometimes, these things happen in MMA
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 13, 2011 8:14 PM EDT reply actions
@ this point in time I do believe the UFC needs Anderson more than Anderson needs the UFC.
Fedor Emelianenko. 9 years undefeated. 7 years #1 ranked Heavyweight. The absolute Greatest Fighter of All Time.
All this hugging and shit is nothing. K1 stand-up fight real knock-outs. - Badr Hari
by David Emerson on Jul 13, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone...because we'll watch Anderson fight where ever he goes....
…you don’t think Bob Abrum would dish out a shit load to get Anderson on the boxing circuit?
To fight who though?
A bunch of cans? And what happens when age catches up with him and he loses? He brings the whole organization down like Kimbo.
by jestermarcus on Jul 13, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe, but that isn't for sure
UFC owns a lot more of the pie than when Kimbo joined EliteXC
by jestermarcus on Jul 13, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
No...No he would not...not in this country...
Maybe if he learns how to give interviews in english…
Manny Paquiao is trying…And Anderson is in a much better position than Manny.
Anderson is viewed a whole lot more than Manny.
I dont think he would go well against a boxer... just boxing...
And you guys dont see that but i dont see that its going to be so easy for an MMA guy to cross over to boxing!
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i was thinkin about MMA promotions when first made that statement
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dana is a piece of shit!
with all the money that a ufc ppv brings in, he could have easily paid lyoto and gave the fans a good main event….instead they put a fighter who is like 1-10 since 2007 in the main event. what a bunch of shit!
yes machida hasnt accomplished what anderson has, but your asking machida to risk his title shot by taking a main event fight on 3 weeks notice?
fuck outta here dana!
Where else is Anderson gonna go?
Bellator?
by jestermarcus on Jul 13, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
See above
He loses, the promotion folds most likely.
by jestermarcus on Jul 13, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Well you're saying there are only cans for him to fight...so him losing is unlikely...and him losing doesn't necessarily mean a promotion folds...
…he doesn’t even get paid the amount that Kimbo got for that Elite XC fight as it stands
There isn't much out there for him, thats for sure.
But age is going to catch up to him sooner or later, a lucky shot could end his streak. Then all that money is down the drain.
by jestermarcus on Jul 13, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Where is the Elite XC to pay him?
Bellator?
Titan FC?
MFC?
Dream.
I think Dream is the only one out of that list that has the means to pay Silva what he normally recieves, and they’re on very shaky financial ground.
Jon Jones LHW Champion 2011
Gray and Pray LW Champion 2011
Anderson gets paid like 200k by the UFC...Kimbo was paid like 400k by Elite XC....these companies can afford to pay Anderson...
…and think about all the capital a company could generate promoting an Anderson fight
That's the official amount probably
What about the behind the scenes stuff?
by jestermarcus on Jul 13, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Starr....you have NO clue...
That was Tom Attencios view on fight promotions.
We got Fedor!!! Lets build a promotion around him…I can almost guaranty you that Diego Sanches would be a bigger draw than Fedor Emelianeko.
And Anderson Silva is legitimately the best in his respective division…unlike Fedor in the past 3-5 years.
Who else was on those cards...
You cannot convince me that Fedor is a top 10 or 15 $$$ draw for MMA fans in the US.
I'm not trying to convince you of that....but he is a bigger draw than Diego...and Diego fights for the UFC...
…regardless of if Fedor has lost his last 2 fights, if he were to fight in the UFC tomorrow, it would be a huge event….watch, July 30th will be a successful event for Strikeforce
Come on bruh...speak realistically...you might not like Fedor...but you have to admit, people tune in when he fights
…the Hamill comment is pushing it just a bit
u dont have to argue that shit look at the rodgers and fedor fight 3.79 mil tuned in WTF
NICK DIAZ.... champ 2011
free tv...How many tuned in for Kimbo??
Kimbo is not even an average fighter.
With garbage promoting too/
id just like to do this:
I can almost guaranty you that Diego Sanches would be a bigger draw than Fedor Emelianeko.
In order to provide a guarantee, it is often wise that the guarantor would provide sufficient faith in the guarantee by spelling it correctly
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Hold on Starr788....
You cannot find any 200 collective fighters that are worth more/more important than Dana…
You can cut the top 10 fighters, including the champs, from every weight division and Dana/UFC will be just fine.
Anderson is not nearly the draw that his skill level is at.
Mainly because of his manager…Dana does not like Soares…a fucking lawyer-like douche that speaks for all of his fighters…Soares has a lot of power.
Anderson is an icon in combat sports now...he could leave the UFC today and there would be tooooons of offers on his table...
…I’m not saying the UFC wouldn’t move on, business as usual…I’m just saying Dana couldn’t force Anderson to do anything he doesn’t want to do
Well that is fine...but If Anderson Silva left right now without turning back...
It would LITERALLY make NO difference to the UFC.
Anderson could not be 1/10 of what he is ANYWHERE besides the UFC.
He could beat up on bums, but no one will watch it.
After 1 year outside the UFC…He would retire from fighting because it would not be worth it.
He could probably retire after one fight outside of the UFC...he'd get paid A LOT...
…don’t kid yourself…people would watch him fight outside of the UFC
Power and Money are 2 separate things....
Dana is rich…some of his fighters probably have more money than him…
Heres an example…James Harrison has more money than me…tons more money…But the guy is a caged criminal who is less intelligent than most 10 year olds…
If he was not in the NFL…he would be broke/locked up/ and homeless after a couple years.
Haha ok....I'm just saying Dana is just the mascot...he doesn't have the authority to make any major decisions on his own
…for instance, if Lorenzo doesn’t agree with Dana, no deal
i really think machida camp didn't want to take this fight so they just proposed a hail mary
to dana white and see if he would take the bait and if so, big ass payday for machida and his camp.
machida money
Dana wanted him to take a big rematch on short notice so machida asked him to sweeten the deal and grease the wheels. In machida’s eyes the fight was worth more $. Dana wasnt desperate enough to pay for a last minute replacement
by rdchannels on Jul 14, 2011 12:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
THIS IS WHERE THE UFC / ZUFFA NEEDS TO PLAY ITS CARDS RIGHT...
AND USE THEIR LARGE CROP OF FIGHTERS TO FILL IN. THIS IS WHERE YOU PULL STRIKEFORCE FIGHTERS INSTEAD OF PUTTING SOME MID LEVEL UFC 205’ER IN THE MIX. MOUSASI, KING MO, FEIJAO, BABALU ARE SOME NAMES THAT COME TO MIND.
I agree with Dana
I like bacon...
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by hairybumcrack on Jul 13, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be a good match up...but a step down for Lyoto....
Lyoto against Gegard IMO is a sick match up…as long as Machida doesn’t take Gegard down….anyway, Rashad was going to beat Lyoto if they fought again
Gayhard the can opener needs to start lower on the food chain for a first UFC fight
Has done nothing to deserve a top 3-4 guy
Speaking of Vera
Where’d that cocky little bitch go? Wasn’t he “un-cut” after the Thiago Silva fight went to a NC? Probably too scared to fight anymore. I’d love to see Machida sleep him.
by Rich_Mahogany on Jul 13, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
honestly
they SHOULD payhim big to take on such an ELite level fighter on only 3 weeks notice. you know rashad probablygets paid more than Anderson anyways… unless anderson gets cuts from PPV
Anderson DOES get PPV cut.
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20$ on Fedor to finish Hendo against ViolentMike.
SigBet with TheGreg on Rampage to beat Jones, his 2 weeks to my 1.
SigBets with kg12 on JDS to beat Cain and Nog to beat Schaub, 1 week each.
SigBet with Jay on Diaz not getting finished by GSP, 1 week.
IF...
IF Machida was demanding for this 1 fight he’d be taking on short notice then yeah I think he deserved for this 1 fight to be paid what Anderson would make. IF Machida wanted his contract re-done all-together where he gets paid like Anderson for each fight hereafter… then I side w/ Dana.
Hughes makes more dough than Andy too
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by CharactersAnalysis on Jul 13, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
How is the UFC not able to better market Anderson...
…he has to be by far the most entertaining fighter right now, and for the last few years…I just don’t get it
I'm not saying Tito doesn't deserve it...I'm saying, why would they refuse to give Lyoto "Anderson money" and then elect to give Tito "Tito money", which is more than Anderson money
…I don’t believe that’s why he didn’t take it
I think Anderson is underpaid IMHO
I was checking net worth of fighters, and he was way below, lesnar, rashad, chuck, matt Hughes, and BJ Penn was sitting at like 40 million, but that might be because his family is insanely rich to begin with. The guys that do TUF end up very very well paid
by soupdz28 on Jul 13, 2011 8:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
tito vs evans is gonna generate a lot more revenue for zuffa than machida vs evans 2.
Magneto: "Excuse me, I'm Erik Lensherr."
Professor X: "Charles Xavier."
Wolverine: "Go fuck yourself."
i think it will. a lot more people are gonna buy this card on titos name alone, especially now that hes actually won a fight.
Magneto: "Excuse me, I'm Erik Lensherr."
Professor X: "Charles Xavier."
Wolverine: "Go fuck yourself."
Doubtful
UFC 73 hardly did big numbers and Tito-Rashad was only the third biggest fight that night, it also had Andy-Nate and Sherk-Franca as co-main events. Tito’s last win was shocking but Rashad’s a -500 favourite for a reason, I doubt many people will buy this show for a late replacement fight that is essentially a mismatch that few people bothered to pay to see anyway back when it was actually a competitive fight. Machida-Rashad 2 is a much more relevant fight and would do bigger numbers.
When will you people learn? Kenny Florian is no choker (gay), he is top tier in any division, and his skinny, female-esque body is nothing to scoff at (I actually have a poster above my bed). I discounted Cali’s obviously superior knowledge, and for that I am sorry (almost as sorry as I am for being a foul-toothed, crumpet eating Bisping fanboy).
Wolfslair > Black House & Nova Uniao
I obviously don't know the details
but Machida fucked up… he’s got Rashads number… that would’ve been a big much needed win to get him right back on track…. bad move by machida
"This is Bob. Bob had bitch tits."
but that is some bull shit i am not buying this card for sure now dana cant shell out cash to make a fight we would rather have then fuk his cheapskate ass and i will be skipping(paying) this card
NICK DIAZ.... champ 2011
If you purchase a card solely on the main event than go ahead and skip your way out and don't come back.
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by David Emerson on Jul 13, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it is a better match up, and makes more sense in terms of the title picture...but again, this event isn't only the main event....
….don’t you wanna see Akiyama prove Dana wrong and revive Japanese MMA by stopping Vitor in the 1st?
No, he doesn't
He’s been knocked out once in his life. The TKOs to Randy were from being worn down. Dude has a decent jaw.
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
dropped by chuck also and
But is that it?. .he must have been dropped a few times then
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by 209stk on Jul 14, 2011 12:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
As would Okami
Zuffa seemed to think so as well because they fastracked Vitor when they needed a big name to take on Andy instead of risking him losing to Yushin in Germany.
When will you people learn? Kenny Florian is no choker (gay), he is top tier in any division, and his skinny, female-esque body is nothing to scoff at (I actually have a poster above my bed). I discounted Cali’s obviously superior knowledge, and for that I am sorry (almost as sorry as I am for being a foul-toothed, crumpet eating Bisping fanboy).
Wolfslair > Black House & Nova Uniao
Chael and Yushin would kill him
Aside from the remains of Lindland, Vitor cannot beat smothering wrestlers.
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
by Johnny WF on Jul 13, 2011 9:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yushin isn't a smothering wrestler...his fight with Munoz does not indicate that...Vitor is a better version of Marquardt, and Marquardt was able to land against Chael...
…shoot, I think Bisping might have a chance of beating Chael
Vitor is NOT a better version of Marquardt. Marquardt actually has wrestling
Vitor has never beaten a UFC middleweight and he ALWAYS crumbles mentally.
And Yushin is a smothering wrestler. He’s a top-control genius. You know absolutely nothing about him. People accuse him of being boring because HE’S A SMOTHERING WRESTLER.
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
yushin is a smothering wrestler... and is boring
thats y his fight with chael was one of the most boring fights ever
NICK DIAZ.... champ 2011
I know absolutely nothing about Yushin? Ugh, should I spazz? (No no don't spazz Starr)
…Yushin isn’t even a wrestler first of all…second of all, Vitor is more decorated than Marquardt…I’m not a fan of Vitor but I can admit that he’s skilled….argh, I’m gonna bite you in the face!
"Yushin isn’t even a wrestler first of all"
How fucking stupid are you? Of course he’s a wrestler. He beats people by taking them down. Have you watched ANY of his fights? He’s an ADCC veteran, stuffed Jake Shields to hell and back in their fight, stuffed Munoz 14 times, took Anderson down in their fight. He’s grappled evenly with Maia. He calls himself a wrestler, he fights like a wrestler. What, did you think he’s a striker?
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/1/Okami-and-the-Many-Power-of-Wrestling-28109
And Vitor is NOT more decorated than Marquardt. Vitor has never won big aside from a fluke cut on Randy’s eye. He’s a choke artist who can barely put three wins together. Skilled, yes, but massively overrated and undeserving of a UFC title shot. He didn’t even win a fight in the middleweight division.
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
Yo bruh, call me stupid again and I'm going to turn this civilized conversation into hell...
…no Yushin isn’t a wrestler, he’s a judoka….no wrestling credentials…just because he takes people down doesn’t make him a wrestler….Story throws punches, doesn’t make him a boxer…second, go look up the definition of decorated…Vitor has a wider skill set than Marquardt…black belts in judo, karate and BJJ…plus his boxing…thus, he is more decorated than Marquardt….shiiiit I had no problem with you before, but I fucking hate you now
GSP has no wrestling credentials
I guess he’s not a wrestler, then?
Read the article. Yushin even calls HIMSELF a wrestler. I think that makes him a bloody wrestler, you moron.
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
You're a booger for sure...no GSP isn't a wrestler...like Rashad said recently, he's effective because he can transition from strikes to take downs fluidly...he's not a wrestler...he would not be successful as an amateur wrestler...
…like, how fucking old are you? Or are you an older dude with no sense, that needs to talk shiiit just to feel self-fulfilled…
BAAAHAHAHA
You heard it here, ladies and gentlemen. GSP isn’t a wrestler. I guess Kos, Alves, Hughes, Hardy, and Penn just fell over.
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
No, just amazed at how someone who outwrestles people isn't a wrestler.
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
Damn dude, your mind is soooo....hmmm I don't even have word to describe it...
…if you think GSP would have success purely wrestling with half the wrestlers he faces you are delusional….
Define "wrestler"
It means “one who wrestles”
GSP wrestles.
Therefore, he’s a wrestler.
How fucking difficult is that?
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
Yep, but it's not his primary tactic
His primary tactic is wrestling. Therefore he’s a wrestler.
Not hard, numbnuts.
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
Primary tactic? WTF are you talking about....I can assure you GSP uses more punches than ground work...
…and I guess by your definition, he was a wrestler against Alves and Hardy but reverted back to being a boxer against Shields and Kos eh….hmmm interesting….your logic is pathetic
Actually, yes
How is that hard to picture, you idiot? People fight differently against different people.
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
Hmmm, so maybe the appropriate title then is a mixed martial artist you fucking lame ass muthafucka....
…you’re such a bean bro honestly…like shiiit….
You said "fuck" twice. That's a grammatical no-no
And bean doesn’t insult me. I like beans. Especially pintos.
And the ellipses make you look stupid.
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
“Primary tactic? WTF are you talking about….I can assure you GSP uses more punches than ground work… "
Wow, did you even WATCH his fight with Hardy?
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
Considering he spent almost the entire fight on top, NOT using his striking
Yes, because you seem to know nothing about GSP.
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
So you admit you haven't watched the Hardy fight.
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
I highly doubt that.
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
You can highly whatever you want...
…I wouldn’t need to lie about watching every GSP UFC fight…that’s some frivolous shiiiit
Hahahahaha
“Just fell over”
I swear I’m like JD from Scrubs, I hear stuff like that, and I just picture it in my head.
by jestermarcus on Jul 13, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
GSP isn't a wrestler
He has never wrestle in any wrestling matches or tournaments. He is a fighter that’s uses wrestling but wrestling is actually a separate sport. Besides his style of wrestling wouldn’t work in a wrestling match. He would have a very hard time taking down a high level wrestler in a wrestling stance.
by djn720 on Jul 13, 2011 11:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So 2 people dispute GSP being a wrestler
No wonder I’ve barely commented lately. Dear me, so what you’re saying is that a striker was at one point considering representing Canada at the 2012 Olympics and that he was able to outwrestle decorated wrestlers in Hughes, Fitch and Kos and trains with elite wrestlers from Eastern Europe, the US and the Middle East on a daily basis. Unbelievable.
When will you people learn? Kenny Florian is no choker (gay), he is top tier in any division, and his skinny, female-esque body is nothing to scoff at (I actually have a poster above my bed). I discounted Cali’s obviously superior knowledge, and for that I am sorry (almost as sorry as I am for being a foul-toothed, crumpet eating Bisping fanboy).
Wolfslair > Black House & Nova Uniao
The more I read these night time threads the more I appreciate the regulars on Mania. JWF - stick to day threads because we will actually acknowledge when you have made solid points.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
It wasn't
Read the bloody article. It’s from Sherdog. It’s in English.
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
Some
And his girlfriend translates the rest for him.
Read it. The Japanese have a word for “wrestler”, you know.
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
It wouldn't be the translation of one word that would change the meaning of a statement...
…a sentence said in Japanese won’t always have the same meaning when translated to English….fuuuck, why am I even explaining linguistics to you
He basically said "I am a wrestler"
That’s hard to fuck up.
Quit backpedaling and pretending he’s not a wrestler. Even friggin’ Wikipedia lists him as a wrestler in addition to a Judoka.
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
Yeah and Joe Rogan pronounces the J in Jose Aldo...so I guess it must be right huh...
….fuck you and Wikipedia……nah actually, I like Wikipedia
Read the damn article
Which you haven’t because you’re afraid I’ll be right.
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
Afraid you'll be right about what? Why would I be afraid? That doesn't make any sense..there is nothing to fear...
Dong Hyun Kim utilizes wrestling in all of his fights…well wrestling according to the most general definition…but it doesn’t make him a wrestler, because those same positions are common to judoka…
Read the article. Yushin calls himself a wrestler
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
And yes, Rogan is right
It’s Portuguese, not Spanish. It’s a hard J.
Moron.
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
Now I know that you don't know shit....
…in Portuguese Jose isn’t pronounced with an H or J sound…the J in Jose, if spoken in Portuguese is pronounced more like a Zh you fucking retard….my mother is Portuguese…don’t talk shit if you don’t know what you’re talking about
Now is that Portugal Portuguese
Or Brazil Portuguese? I heard they are slightly different.
by jestermarcus on Jul 13, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
It would be like saying English English
is way different than American English.
Nick Diaz has as much of a chance at beating GSP as George W. Bush becoming re-elected...
by i_am_awesome_o on Jul 13, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
more of an accent
Nick Diaz has as much of a chance at beating GSP as George W. Bush becoming re-elected...
by i_am_awesome_o on Jul 13, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
America and England both speak English
Pretty damn different. Like “aluminum”.
There’s only one thing I like more than powerbottom, and that’s BloodyElbow.com
Aluminium
When will you people learn? Kenny Florian is no choker (gay), he is top tier in any division, and his skinny, female-esque body is nothing to scoff at (I actually have a poster above my bed). I discounted Cali’s obviously superior knowledge, and for that I am sorry (almost as sorry as I am for being a foul-toothed, crumpet eating Bisping fanboy).
Wolfslair > Black House & Nova Uniao
We'll teach these yanks proper English one of these days
When will you people learn? Kenny Florian is no choker (gay), he is top tier in any division, and his skinny, female-esque body is nothing to scoff at (I actually have a poster above my bed). I discounted Cali’s obviously superior knowledge, and for that I am sorry (almost as sorry as I am for being a foul-toothed, crumpet eating Bisping fanboy).
Wolfslair > Black House & Nova Uniao
hey didn't u give me shit for doin this earlier?
LOL!
It’s fun.
Admit it!
Tell your girlfriend to stop calling me.
by Scottidog on Jul 13, 2011 10:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I know, I was just thinking that...but Johnny WF started calling me names, I couldn't resist...
….argh!….It is kind of fun though
Johnny's alright
You guys are just bein rowdy.
Tell your girlfriend to stop calling me.
by Scottidog on Jul 13, 2011 11:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble!!!
by jestermarcus on Jul 13, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
so does that mean im not all right scotti
i didnt get one of those complements earlier
NICK DIAZ.... champ 2011
The term wrestler when it comes to MMA is not absolute...it's used to refer to anyone that utilizes wrestling...
…but it can be insulting to those guys that have spent their entire lives wrestling….if Anderson started to take people down, no one would call him a wrestler, would they?
Ah I took you to task on a comment I didn't like
No big deal.
It’s just the internet. I’m over it.
Tell your girlfriend to stop calling me.
by Scottidog on Jul 13, 2011 11:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought he was alright up until today...didn't know he was the type to call someone "idiot", "moron", etc.
…I just have a problem when someone tries to insult my intelligence…call me anything else, ugly, gay, lame…but don’t call me stupid…I’m pretty well educated…but yeeeah, we’re just being rowdy
Yeah yeah we're cool...
I just have a volatie mix…Jamaican and Portuguese….I just might snap one day and bite someone’s face off
You're a lame gay ugly person.
But a very smart lame gay ugly person.
Now that, that is settled.
by jestermarcus on Jul 13, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I've been getting yelled at all day
Here…at home…work.
One of those days.
Tell your girlfriend to stop calling me.
by Scottidog on Jul 13, 2011 11:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lol @ Johnny tho...
AND NOW IM YELLING AT YOU SCOTTI!!! AAAAAAHHHH!!
I'm my sig's pimp
Pro sig bet record: 1-3-0
perfect end to a perfect day.
Why should you be different.
I have a headache….I’m goin to bed….lol
Tell your girlfriend to stop calling me.
by Scottidog on Jul 13, 2011 11:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i get it
you have your reasons for not wanting to watch the fight, cool. just don’t say “WE” would rather see Lyoto. I personally would prefer this fight because where I think Machida would dominate Rashad, the Tito/Rashad fight is more competitive. Besides the story is built in and it could generate a monumental story.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Jul 13, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
i think its split in half who wants what but my bad clown wont say we anymore...
but really u think rashad would get dominated by lyoto now… ever since he did the stanky leg look like rashad is smarter now and i think it would be a close one
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Rashad just strikes me as a man who needs to prove shit to the world.
he basically said how he was gonna beat Rampage (safely w/ his strong skills in wrestling). I see him honestly believing his head movement, speed (which is an illusion) and game planning would allow him to fight Lyoto on his feet, in which case he gets destroyed.
I could be way off, but i just have no faith in Rashad w/out the Jackson camp to keep his ego in check and focus where it needs to be.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Jul 13, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
take a look at the announcement article
if you think nobody wants to see Tito in this fight you are gravely mistaken.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Jul 13, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
who every body who was calling for his retirement befor the bader fight... dont care about them why u think they called machida first
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The UFC should have stuck with Bones-Rashad in the first place once it became clear that Jon wasn’t going into surgery afterall. Now they’ve just created a mess and they’re going to have to try and sell 2 mismatches as competitive fights between the best LHWs in the world. The only good thing is that I don’t like either of the Big Bear boys so it’ll be funny watching them 2 get destroyed before Bones-Rashad is set up. Hopefully Machida gets someone good as well, why he wasn’t offered the same amount as Tito when he’s already proven to be a far better fighter is beyond me.
When will you people learn? Kenny Florian is no choker (gay), he is top tier in any division, and his skinny, female-esque body is nothing to scoff at (I actually have a poster above my bed). I discounted Cali’s obviously superior knowledge, and for that I am sorry (almost as sorry as I am for being a foul-toothed, crumpet eating Bisping fanboy).
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i believe that Tito was called first....
then Machida was called. i’m not sayin’ i’m just sayin’.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Jul 13, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont blame him
whats the point in taking on rashad when he completely dominated him and put him to sleep with 1 punch to take the title in the first place
KO’ing rashad who has grinded out decesion victories since being stanky legged by lyoto proves nothing
so if i were to take on rashad if i was lyoto i would need something else
Rashad is standing in the way of the title so
He chose money over potential title shot. bad move.
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by redfox54 on Jul 13, 2011 9:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lyoto deserves Andy type dough had he stepped on short ass notice.
Dana shud have coughed up the dough cheap bastard. I’m pretty sure titos getting paid bank for this fight so Y the fuck not?
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by d*locc on Jul 13, 2011 9:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
No one deserves Andy type dough...shiiiiit, Andy doesn't even get Andy type dough....
….it’s quite sad actually
Tito was a draw
He hasn’t been one since Chuck KO’d him again. Machida has already smashed Rashad and Tito, he should be on big money regardless of how popular Tito once was.
When will you people learn? Kenny Florian is no choker (gay), he is top tier in any division, and his skinny, female-esque body is nothing to scoff at (I actually have a poster above my bed). I discounted Cali’s obviously superior knowledge, and for that I am sorry (almost as sorry as I am for being a foul-toothed, crumpet eating Bisping fanboy).
Wolfslair > Black House & Nova Uniao
It seems Machida's management has overestimated his value to the company
You can’t blame them for trying, but now he’ll be #1 on Dana’s shitlist. Props to Tito for stepping up, I might just come around to liking him. The real winner here is probably Rashad, because Machida would have likely beat him again and he should be a favorite over an aging Tito. But who knows, their last fight was a draw.
Well...I think it is safe to say Lyoto will get the winner of Shogun/Griffin...
…if it’s Shogun I think Lyoto will hit him with the hand of god….
That actually makes a lot of sense
Wouldn’t mind a Machida-Shogun rubber match or seeing Forrest finally take his long delayed beating from the Dragon after refusing to fight him back at 70.
When will you people learn? Kenny Florian is no choker (gay), he is top tier in any division, and his skinny, female-esque body is nothing to scoff at (I actually have a poster above my bed). I discounted Cali’s obviously superior knowledge, and for that I am sorry (almost as sorry as I am for being a foul-toothed, crumpet eating Bisping fanboy).
Wolfslair > Black House & Nova Uniao
Think of it this way people
Machida said Anderson Silva money as a starting off point. You don’t start your negotiations at exactly what you want. You high ball it, and then go from there. If you always throw out exactly what you want, you’ll rarely get it, and if you do, you are asking for too little.
Guess who just went on Uncle Danas Shit list!!!
Seriously, WTF is Machida, more – so Soares thinking?. I mean Machida has just came off of a win of a washed up over the hill Couture…..before that, he got his ass handed too him twice by Shogun and then by Rampage; and he wants Anderson Silva money? Shut the fuck Ed Soares…..
Bring back the Chute Boxe of old!!!
I must of missed that when did lyoto have his ass handed to him by rampage that fight could of went either way
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The only guy who got beat up was Rampage
All Rampage did was move forwards for 2 rounds, which scores more than moving backwards for 2 rounds.
When will you people learn? Kenny Florian is no choker (gay), he is top tier in any division, and his skinny, female-esque body is nothing to scoff at (I actually have a poster above my bed). I discounted Cali’s obviously superior knowledge, and for that I am sorry (almost as sorry as I am for being a foul-toothed, crumpet eating Bisping fanboy).
Wolfslair > Black House & Nova Uniao
Well Machida is my favorite fighter by far but...
Haha Dana laid the smack down on that deal and i don’t blame him. He has a pretty valid point.
Long live the dragon!!!
by Octagon Brilliance on Jul 13, 2011 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
^ How do these people do it?
Do they like sign up to put up this bullshit that nobody is going to read then get banned? Who would waste that much energy in the pointless marketing plan thats gonna gain a goose egg worth of prospects or customers?
Long live the dragon!!!
by Octagon Brilliance on Jul 13, 2011 10:39 PM EDT reply actions
isn't it obvious, they don't have an advertising or marketing budget so they do spam marketing
which cost no money but wasted effort and time.
Who cares? Seriously stupid shit.
Nick Diaz has as much of a chance at beating GSP as George W. Bush becoming re-elected...
by i_am_awesome_o on Jul 13, 2011 11:00 PM EDT reply actions
i dont blame machida
id also want more money to fight someone on short notice that I already beatdown
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by jestermarcus on Jul 14, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree with you Goldie
3 weeks notice??? Against a high caliber opponent like Rashad? No way. Good decision for Machida
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by danago on Jul 14, 2011 6:39 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
FU
Lyoto you are coming off a couple losses except for Randy and you want “Anderson Silva money” what the hell are you thinking?
by Derrick McMillian on Jul 14, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions
Guess he figured it couldnt hurt to ask.
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