Melvin Guillard: Frankie Edgar is overrated and doesn't finish fights
by Jesse Holland on Jul 12, 2011 10:34 AM EDT
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UFC Lightweight Champion Frankie Edgar is 13-1-1, has defeated BJ Penn in consecutive fights and showed the heart of a champion against Gray Maynard at UFC 125 back on Jan. 1 of this year.
Melvin Guillard is not impressed.
The quick-handed and even quicker-mouthed 155-pound contender took to the airwaves last night (July 11) on MMAmania.com's feature presentation of Pro MMA Radio to dish the dirt on his place among the lightweight elite.
In other words, consider the division officially on notice.
"Right now it's my time to be champion," said Guillard, who pasted Shane Roller at UFC 132 last Saturday night (July 2) in Las Vegas to win his fifth straight fight and improve to 8-1 over his last nine.
But in order to be the man, he's gotta beat the man. Edgar is hoping to find "The Answer" to defeating Gray Maynard in the conclusion of their trilogy later this year.
An opponent he "barely got away from," according to Guillard:
"I feel like a lot of the guys at the top of the heap were overrated. The UFC will promote them harder so they'll get more of the attention ... Me personally, I think Frankie Edgar is overrated. He beat B.J. Penn twice, I'll give the guy credit where credit is due, but he barely got away from Gray Maynard. He's the champ right now, but he's not a finisher. To me, a lot of the guys who aren't finishing fights are overrated. Nowadays you get a lot of bad judging, so who's to say these guys really won some of these fights they say they won. I just feel overall that best 155'er and I'm content with that."
Guillard has been vocal about touching gloves with Joe Lauzon when the promotion heads to Houston for UFC 136 later this year. While he tells Pro MMA Radio he'll fight "anyone they put in front of him," he considers Jim Miller his "money match" and a one-way ticket to a title fight.
Assuming he wins.
"The Young Assassin" has been doing a lot of talking. He's also been doing a lot of winning. Can the revitalized striker from Jackson's MMA back up all this talk? Or will he be exposed by the "overrated" guys at the top of the heap?
Where do you rank Guillard in this division? And do you agree with his remarks about Edgar?
Sound off!
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THANK YOU MELVIN!
Fighting Solves Everything! - Mikeybear
by mikeybear32 on Jul 12, 2011 10:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I still think Faber can beat Edgar
But that will never happen. I can see Aldo beating every small guy& holding 3 belts.
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by mikeybear32 on Jul 12, 2011 10:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep
Current bets:
20$ on Fedor to finish Hendo against ViolentMike.
SigBet with TheGreg on Rampage to beat Jones, his 2 weeks to my 1.
SigBets with kg12 on JDS to beat Cain and Nog to beat Schaub, 1 week each.
SigBet with Jay on Diaz not getting finished by GSP, 1 week.
Edgar is better than Faber everywhere
There is not one thing that Urijah Faber does better than Edgar. Not one.
Last of the hopeless fools
power. the end.
Current bets:
20$ on Fedor to finish Hendo against ViolentMike.
SigBet with TheGreg on Rampage to beat Jones, his 2 weeks to my 1.
SigBets with kg12 on JDS to beat Cain and Nog to beat Schaub, 1 week each.
SigBet with Jay on Diaz not getting finished by GSP, 1 week.
HUH?
Faber has 3 TKO’s from punches in 30 fights. 10.0% His other 4 TKO’s were from cuts or corner stoppage, not ref stoppage.
Edgar has 2 TKO’s from punches in 15 fights. 13.3%
Faber does nothing better. the end.
Last of the hopeless fools
i bet he does the dougie better...
Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard.
Dark Horse for the Mania Money Pool. Watch out Old Man...
Edgar can do the Guido Fist Pump better, no question, but I still think Faber has the better dougie.
Times have changed for sailors these days, when I'm at port I get what I need. Not Havanas or bananas or daiquiris, but that American creation on which I feed.
I would like to believe that Edgar is better than Jose Aldo everywhere...
He is smaller than Aldo too.
I disagree.
I believe Faber has better BJJ than Edgar. I’d definitely give him a toughness advantage as well, although admittedly that’s not a particularly measurable skill. However, I do agree that Frankie would win rather handily if the two ever fought.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
Thank you Melvin indeed. Edgar won’t have the speed advantage against Melvin to pitter-patter and dance away. And Lay n Gray will get KTFO when he tries for a TD. Melvin needs a good step up in competition.
Times have changed for sailors these days, when I'm at port I get what I need. Not Havanas or bananas or daiquiris, but that American creation on which I feed.
Agreed.
Current bets:
20$ on Fedor to finish Hendo against ViolentMike.
SigBet with TheGreg on Rampage to beat Jones, his 2 weeks to my 1.
SigBets with kg12 on JDS to beat Cain and Nog to beat Schaub, 1 week each.
SigBet with Jay on Diaz not getting finished by GSP, 1 week.
It's not only about hand speed
Frankie’s technique is terrific.
Perhaps you forgot about how he dominated BJ Penn??
Let me tell you what would happen should the two meet.
If Melvin gets too aggressive, Edgar will start taking him down and wrestlefuck him to a decision.
If Melvin fights too tentative, Frankie will just outbox Melvin by ducking in out and with his superior boxing technique.
I highly doubt Guillard would even defeat Clay Guida.
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by RogersPark Kris on Jul 12, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Shhhhhh!!!
Don’t stop the Melvin Hype Train that speeds along, despite having no tracks or energy!
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I know...Melvin
Is one of those fighters that looks great against some guys…but looks like shit against others.
Melvin will always struggle against a top 8 LW in the 2 and 3 rounds…
No way around it…
You go train with Greg Jackson…than have a bunch of GIMMEE fights lined up???
Agreed cuz Guida will not fight and just dry hump him
by Selah Williams on Jul 12, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
By "dry hump" do you mean "win"?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
melvin guillard: roid rage is overrated and doesn't taste like cocain
dumb bastard
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
the young assassin is fuggin hurrrrr to stay!!!
Melvin! Melvin! Melvin! Melvin!
Everybody, join in, Melvin! Melvin! Melvin!…
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by daniel worby on Jul 12, 2011 10:35 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Remember when Rich Clementi picked Melvin up, slammed him and made him tap with ease
Yeah me too
Resist Much, Obey Little.
I love it...mother fuck Melvin
I like bacon...
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I think he is his mother's pimp
He is clearly demanding that his mother fucks Melvin
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by ViolentMike on Jul 12, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
hahaha grammatically you are right
Current bets:
20$ on Fedor to finish Hendo against ViolentMike.
SigBet with TheGreg on Rampage to beat Jones, his 2 weeks to my 1.
SigBets with kg12 on JDS to beat Cain and Nog to beat Schaub, 1 week each.
SigBet with Jay on Diaz not getting finished by GSP, 1 week.
Where's Clementi now?
That fight was over 3 1/2 years ago. Melvin hasn’t lost in almost 2 years and has a five fight win streak going. You can’t deny the improvement and the fact that he is up there in the rankings. He’d beat the shit out of Rich if they ever fought again. Doesn’t matter because Rich is hacking it around in the peewee leagues.
actually no love isnt hacking it in the peewees either.
Sometimes, these things happen in MMA
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 12, 2011 5:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
+10000
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
this always makes my heart happy
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by theworldsoldestsport on Jul 12, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Melvin has great power and speed. It's the rest of his game that concerns me.
It's all about the entertainment.
ya like 4 years ago!
now look where melvin is and look where clementi is…..melvin would murder clementi now!
by mguillardfan701 on Jul 12, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless it went to the ground
Hi Melvins mom!
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Melvins finally living up to his potential
He was always tabbed to be great but would let his emotions get the best of him. Now that hes got that under control, he should be competitive in hard fights.
He is?
His potential has been to beat Shane Roller? lol
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
What about current contender Dennis Siever, Dunham, Stephens and Tiebau?
Try to remember more than just the last fight you saw.
Oh right
All those top tier guys?
What about Waylon Lowe, Ronnys Torres and Eric Regan?
Try to remember more than just the names you recognize.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
It's the names that matter
not the past building or fluff fights. Melvin has improved since being at Jacksons, and is positioning himself for a title run. He is a name, and has solid wins over top guys.
'Primitive Magic is replaced by Religion, which in turn is replaced by Science'
-JGF
by *Californication* on Jul 12, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is my point
There are no names. His record is all padding. cyke had to stretch back to 2008 for Siver and Tibau, and since then the only two names he fought have been Nick Diaz (loss) and Evan Dunham (split decision win).
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Nate Diaz
and he KO’d Dunham in the 1st (who was the top prospect). Stephens is a decent win as well.
I would take him over the majority of guys, barring tough chinned grinders.
'Primitive Magic is replaced by Religion, which in turn is replaced by Science'
-JGF
by *Californication* on Jul 12, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
thats right
his split decision win was against Stephens lol.
Also, Dunham was coming off a loss to Sean Sherk. The only people who seem to think he was a top prospect are people who are trying to pump Melvin up.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Not very many will watch Dunham's fight with Sherk
and say Sherk actually won. Going into the Melvin fight many were calling for him lining up to the next title shot. Times change with loss(es), but that’s what it was. He had solid wins over Marcus Aurelio, Escuedo, and most importantly Tyson Griffin, and like I said, near noone saw it as a loss to Sherk. No post-win-Melvin-Pumping. He was/is a Top prospect (most see it as undefeated up until Melvin) and he got absolutely crushed.
'Primitive Magic is replaced by Religion, which in turn is replaced by Science'
-JGF
by *Californication* on Jul 12, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair - he has improved or at least has shown improvements in how he dictates his fight style to get a W. IE - the Stephens fight.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
He's definitely improved
but until he fights someone at the level he thinks he’s at, he’s just another unproven benefactor of the UFC hype machine.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I agree with that sentiment. Also, he needs to face another good striker like himself.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
and now this imposter calls out lauzon and says hes the best lightweight...wtf did i miss something here
by Stock Burner on Jul 12, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
There is only one fighter that can beat Edgar!
his name is Edson Barboza Jr.
You've been in a few threads talking about these unproven fighters.
You train with them or do you just like Brazilian men?
Starting a petition to bring Cote back to the UFC. Who's with me?
I heard Brazilian trannies are HAWT.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
How did Lady gaga get into this thread too?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Ronaldinho?
Times have changed for sailors these days, when I'm at port I get what I need. Not Havanas or bananas or daiquiris, but that American creation on which I feed.
The Hamburgular?
Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard.
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I train with them
and they both are really good fighters
Fucking what!
He beat Shane Roller and Jeremy Stephens! HE’S UNSTOPPABLE!!!
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I totally forgot he'd beaten THE Jeremy Stephens!!
My apologies melvin, pump those gums all you want, you’ve earned it wee man!
Yar!
Now you will bend over and let him snort coke off your back while he prison-rapes you.
And you will say thank you!
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I'll take my punishment
serves me right for not getting onboard the Guillard hype train straight away.
I absolutely LOVED how he came out all cocky and flashdancing against Shane Roller, because he knew he totally outclassed him.
“Look how flashy I am when I am much better than the guy they gave me to pad my record. Yeah baby!”
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
He is 100% right.
Current bets:
20$ on Fedor to finish Hendo against ViolentMike.
SigBet with TheGreg on Rampage to beat Jones, his 2 weeks to my 1.
SigBets with kg12 on JDS to beat Cain and Nog to beat Schaub, 1 week each.
SigBet with Jay on Diaz not getting finished by GSP, 1 week.
I can’t think of a single fighter that I would take over Melvin in a bet right now.
Urijah Faber is nothing but an overrated, slow wannabe. Even in his camp he is only the second best. Dominick Cruz is a true champion, easiest win for him, just like freenow82 said it would be.
Junior dos Santos?
Times have changed for sailors these days, when I'm at port I get what I need. Not Havanas or bananas or daiquiris, but that American creation on which I feed.
too slow
Current bets:
20$ on Fedor to finish Hendo against ViolentMike.
SigBet with TheGreg on Rampage to beat Jones, his 2 weeks to my 1.
SigBets with kg12 on JDS to beat Cain and Nog to beat Schaub, 1 week each.
SigBet with Jay on Diaz not getting finished by GSP, 1 week.
I'd take Gilbert, Gray and Guida
Current bets:
20$ on Fedor to finish Hendo against ViolentMike.
SigBet with TheGreg on Rampage to beat Jones, his 2 weeks to my 1.
SigBets with kg12 on JDS to beat Cain and Nog to beat Schaub, 1 week each.
SigBet with Jay on Diaz not getting finished by GSP, 1 week.
Agreed
Lets remember that Roller is a multiple time D-1 Champ, and he crushed him.
'Primitive Magic is replaced by Religion, which in turn is replaced by Science'
-JGF
by *Californication* on Jul 12, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you watch the fight?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
KO in the first half of the first round
what about it?
'Primitive Magic is replaced by Religion, which in turn is replaced by Science'
-JGF
by *Californication* on Jul 12, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Roller didn't even try to grapple
Just went in there and got knocked out.
Starting a petition to bring Cote back to the UFC. Who's with me?
there is a myth that a fighter by that name used to be relevant
Current bets:
20$ on Fedor to finish Hendo against ViolentMike.
SigBet with TheGreg on Rampage to beat Jones, his 2 weeks to my 1.
SigBets with kg12 on JDS to beat Cain and Nog to beat Schaub, 1 week each.
SigBet with Jay on Diaz not getting finished by GSP, 1 week.
Myth - Confirmed!
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Ever heard of a fighter named BJ Penn
He’s a WW now…..but I’d still take Melvin.
Urijah Faber is nothing but an overrated, slow wannabe. Even in his camp he is only the second best. Dominick Cruz is a true champion, easiest win for him, just like freenow82 said it would be.
Melvin over BJ get the fuck outta here son..
by Stock Burner on Jul 12, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
No. But I've heard of a whiner named BJ Penn.
Starting a petition to bring Cote back to the UFC. Who's with me?
Melvin was too scared to even try to take Stephens down
Danny Downes has more balls than him and he looks like he hasn’t even hit puberty yet.
Stephens got robbed and would slaughter Melvin. And since Melvin won’t take scary people down, I think Njokuani would eat him for breakfast, as would Barboza.
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by Johnny WF on Jul 12, 2011 12:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Braboza would destroy him. No speed advantage for Melvin in that one.
Current bets:
20$ on Fedor to finish Hendo against ViolentMike.
SigBet with TheGreg on Rampage to beat Jones, his 2 weeks to my 1.
SigBets with kg12 on JDS to beat Cain and Nog to beat Schaub, 1 week each.
SigBet with Jay on Diaz not getting finished by GSP, 1 week.
A Greg Jackson-trained Melvin would crush your hopes and dreams
yet again if the two were to fight.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
melvins still in the ufc! rich chlamydia on the other hand only lost 2 fights in a row and got cut! hadent done shit since...
by Hot_Wet_Fart on Jul 12, 2011 11:10 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
He tapped to Aoki!
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by ViolentMike on Jul 12, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey Derpy
Clementi got cut after two losses in a row (one of which was Gray Maynard).
Clementi beating Guillard was his second loss in a row (Stevenson was first).
So umm yeah, let’s not play the numbers game. You know they don’t add up.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I wouldn't go that far lol
I like to call it the Brandon Vera treatment, which made sense until they cut Vera (and re-signed him) – that no matter how bad someone might be, the UFC will keep ’em around anyway.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Due to ethnicit/country of origin so that they have some one who can potentially fill
the main event spot if they ever go to that country/market…
Stefan Struve, Mustafa Al Turk, Pat Barry, Dan Hardy, Jason MacDonald…
The UFC does have plenty of expendable Cacasoid Americans and Brazilians that they can cut if they do not perform to the standards of the UFC…
I'm not disagreeing with you.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
the only one who has the best chance against guillard is Jim Miller
by mguillardfan701 on Jul 12, 2011 12:02 PM EDT reply actions
hahahahah
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
coming from a guy that lost to joe stevenson in 30 seconds lol.. i love guillard, but dont call the champ overrated
But to be fair
It took Melvin two rounds to lose to Nate Diaz.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
This whole thread is very sad
and clearly shows how people are so eager to lap up the UFCs PR.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
UFC PR was in full swing a week ago when I saw Melvin knock Roller out.
No, wait, that was a fight.
Starting a petition to bring Cote back to the UFC. Who's with me?
I feel a lota guys @ the top heap R overrated, Melvin being 1 of them.
Keep fighting lower tier guys b4 the top dogs expose U. Then we can here him bitch about his opponent didn’t let him fight his fight & blah blah blah.
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by d*locc on Jul 12, 2011 12:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
The thing is...
He’s not even at the top of the heap. I don’t know how people are declaring him god when he hasn’t even beaten anyone of note yet (yes yes, Evan Dunham who was coming off a loss anyway!).
It’s just weird how people so quickly follow the shepherd.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
he looked great in his last couple fights. it's all about "what have you done for me lately?"
Current bets:
20$ on Fedor to finish Hendo against ViolentMike.
SigBet with TheGreg on Rampage to beat Jones, his 2 weeks to my 1.
SigBets with kg12 on JDS to beat Cain and Nog to beat Schaub, 1 week each.
SigBet with Jay on Diaz not getting finished by GSP, 1 week.
Of course he did
Look who he fought. Kimbo looked great too for a while until, you know, he fought a decent fighter.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Fuck Kimbo Slice.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
haha, i was waiting for something like that
Current bets:
20$ on Fedor to finish Hendo against ViolentMike.
SigBet with TheGreg on Rampage to beat Jones, his 2 weeks to my 1.
SigBets with kg12 on JDS to beat Cain and Nog to beat Schaub, 1 week each.
SigBet with Jay on Diaz not getting finished by GSP, 1 week.
kimbo never looked great
Current bets:
20$ on Fedor to finish Hendo against ViolentMike.
SigBet with TheGreg on Rampage to beat Jones, his 2 weeks to my 1.
SigBets with kg12 on JDS to beat Cain and Nog to beat Schaub, 1 week each.
SigBet with Jay on Diaz not getting finished by GSP, 1 week.
Are you kidding?
He fucked Tank Abbott up! Tank fucking ABBOTT! Knocked him out in what – 10 seconds?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Excellent point!!
Anyone who can beat up Tank Abbott AND Thompson’s Ear is all man in my book.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
can't argue with that
Current bets:
20$ on Fedor to finish Hendo against ViolentMike.
SigBet with TheGreg on Rampage to beat Jones, his 2 weeks to my 1.
SigBets with kg12 on JDS to beat Cain and Nog to beat Schaub, 1 week each.
SigBet with Jay on Diaz not getting finished by GSP, 1 week.
Frankie is the champ for a reason
And hes going to stay champ. If he called out ppl 15 fighters below him he would finish them all also. To sum it up: Fuck u melvin
Tito Ortiz dropping and Subbing Ryan Bader is close to the most exciting moment in my MMA history
Melvin vs Miller...might be competetive...but Melvin does not have the discipline to last a whole 3 rounds with Jim Miller
Otherwise Melvin does not deserve to be in the same cage as Gray or Frankie…
The reason why Frankie does not finish anyone is because he is a solid 10lbs smaller than just about everyone in his division.
He padded himself with some muscle over the years, but muscle does not matter like skeletal size does.
The hype has clearly gone to Melvin’s head, Frankie would dominate and finish him in a couple of rounds. Seriously I always laugh when guys start talking about finishing guys and how boring or overated another fighter is. Considering the resume of both guys Guillard is the one who’s overated and he should worry about his next opponent instead of Frankie who’s a much better fighter than he is.
Keep in mind
Melvin is such a badass that he just called out Joe Lauzon. Clearly he’s aiming for the stars.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Mythbuster
Ur sarcasm has been excellent in this post. I wanted to take the time to acknowledge this
Tito Ortiz dropping and Subbing Ryan Bader is close to the most exciting moment in my MMA history
Are you being sarcastic?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Duh
Times have changed for sailors these days, when I'm at port I get what I need. Not Havanas or bananas or daiquiris, but that American creation on which I feed.
No
sincere. For once
Tito Ortiz dropping and Subbing Ryan Bader is close to the most exciting moment in my MMA history
Was P-Dub being mean?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
frankie never does finish fights. he has the longest average ufc fight time ever and that is even including a stoppage against the shitty matt veach who came in on short notice if i remember correctly. Other then that matt veach fight, frankie has only ever stopped one other person in the ufc and it was almost 5 years ago (mark bocek) . I highly doubt frankie would finish melvin and after watching round one of gray/frankie again , i think melvin would fuck frankie up.
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lol you lot are funny
bringing up fights from years ago, that arent even relevant in the PRESENT. hes on a tear he beat the piss out of everyone including Dunham who everyone said was easily gonna win cus of his ground game. He’s on his 5 win streak who else in that division has that?
Mauro: "Theres a left by Jackson…. or make that Randleman, sorry!"
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by Rampagelangford on Jul 12, 2011 12:52 PM EDT reply actions
ok jim miller
i forgot to say other than him
there isnt anyone
Mauro: "Theres a left by Jackson…. or make that Randleman, sorry!"
Rampage: "Thats alright, all black folks look alike."
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by Rampagelangford on Jul 12, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Lets be fair man...
People HAVE to go back that far to find a fighter worth mentioning. With all the padding in his record, we don’t have any choice.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
who he fights isnt his choice though is it
he fights who he fights and now he calls people out whilst winning, you all shit on him.
Mauro: "Theres a left by Jackson…. or make that Randleman, sorry!"
Rampage: "Thats alright, all black folks look alike."
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by Rampagelangford on Jul 12, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
People said the exact same shit about Cain and Jon Jones.......
seeing the talent of a fighter isn’t 100% dependent on who they’re fighting. Before the Shogun fight, people said the exact same shit about Jones….Who has he fought? Well, The MANNER with which these fighters win can be just as important as WHO they’re fighting. Sure, maybe Jones hadn’t beaten all the best guys in the Division, but the guys he did fight, he basically slaughtered them with little to no effort. It’s similar with Melvin now…..he hasn’t fought the guys at the very top of the Division, but he hasn’t exactly been fighting cans, and he’s demolishing them with little to no effort. I don’t believe the hype around Melvin is unwarranted. That said, I’d prefer his next fight to be someone at the top, as opposed to a step backward, which is what Lauzon would be.
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by Rampagelangford on Jul 12, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
err
Jon Jones only loss was a DQ over Hamill.
Cain Valesquez IS undefeated.
Please tell me you didn’t just try to compare Melvin “I tap for blondes!” Guillard to Jones and Cain…
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Please tell me you didn’t just try to compare Melvin "I tap for blondes!" Guillard to Jones and Cain…
Of course not…..my point is simply that you can’t simply look at a fighters opponents, and use that as the only criteria to judge where he’s at in the Division…The manner with which they’re winning is also relevant. 4 of his last 8 victories were 1st round KO’s, and his last two (Dunnam and Roller) were pretty impressive knockouts.
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but
Melvin has lost, quite a bit, to mid- and low-tier fighters while neither Jones or Cain have. Trying to bring them int oa discussion about Guillard is the height of desperation.
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It’s not about their entire career dude…..Christ, Melvin probably has more fights that Cain and Jones combined…..i’m only talking about current streaks. If he loses, the argument is over, but he’s showing no signs. Roller and Dunham might not be the top guys, but theyre in the UFC, they’re tough dudes, and Melvin waxed their ass with ease. I think you’re gonna be none to happy when he wins his next…….
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I should also point out...
That turning down the fight with Kenny Florian did more to unimpress than his wins over pad fighters impressed.
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who he fights isnt his choice though is it
he fights who he fights and now he calls people out whilst winning, you all shit on him.
He just called out JOE LAUZON! Obviously the decision rests on Joe Silva, but that’s what I’ve been saying – the UFC has been padding his record to hype him. You just kind of agreed with me, but made the excuse that it isn’t MELVIN that’s doing it so it’s okay.
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He just called out JOE LAUZON!
He also just called out Frankie Edgar……i think it’s safe to say that Melvin can and will call out just about anyone with 2 legs and a heartbeat at this point!!!
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He has caed out wayyyyyyyyyyyy to many people to keep track in my book.
I dont know why he chose Lau though…
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Calling out Frankie Edgar makes sense.
Everyone calls out the champ. Calling out Lauzon is bizarre, and kind of shows Melvin’s willingness to be a pussy and take padder fights.
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Agreed, I believe either Maynard or Edgar will get dethroned by the next worthy challenger.
IMO Melvin Guillard, Jim Miller and Charles Oliveira are the LW divisions best competitors. I excluded Guida from that list because I believe he really is too one dimensional. Guys like Dunham and Barbosa could one day get there as well. Im sure I missed somebody though, it feels like I did.
by theworldismine on Jul 12, 2011 12:53 PM EDT reply actions
Oliveira is top-three? Really? I think Miller has improved to the point where he is a very real threat to Maynard and Edgar, but he doesn’t blow through them with ease in two minutes like he did CO. Do Bronx is still way too wild, and has way too many holes defensively to compete with the top guys.
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And I can’t really confidently predict that, but I believe in his potential.
by theworldismine on Jul 12, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
His potential is certainly there, but it’s just definitely not now. He needs to learn to mix up his aggressive style, which is great against an opponent weaker than him in the area he uses it, with a more technical side when he faces a top guy like an Edgar, who can outstrike him technically, a Maynard, who can stay out of danger with his top control, or a Miller, who as seen can out BJJ him. The wild style just leaves too many holes to exploit for top-class opponents.
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by CharactersAnalysis on Jul 12, 2011 2:41 PM EDT reply actions
Wait..
This is the guy who pissed hot for cocaine, had a decision overturned due to greasing, got subbed in like 30 secs by Joe Daddy cause he so stupidly left his neck out, had another man’s package rested on his neck in disrespect after that other man RNC’d his ass, was the benefactor of 2 questionable decision wins vs Tibau and Stephens…..and now has a couple of good finishes and we are all supposed to be clamoring for his sack…..no way, Melvin. You may win a belt someday but you won’t hold onto it for long. Frankie reps the title and shows more heart than you ever will. Just STFU and fight.
by sudnvictory on Jul 12, 2011 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
+ 1
when you’ve lost to guys that weren’t near the top of the divisions (Diaz, Clementi) it’s hard to believe you’re the next GOAT.
Guillard would get thrashed by Njoukuani, I’d bet Cerrone would tap him inside of 3 rounds, Ben Henderson would probably tap him inside of 3 rounds as well.
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by theworldsoldestsport on Jul 12, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Well said.
Shields never eyepokes his opponent, so why all of a sudden is he throwing eyepokes every round against a guy he knows he can’t takedown?? Highly suspicious.
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by mistahsupahyphy on Jul 12, 2011 4:50 PM EDT reply actions
Best part is the guy ripping the J behind him all casually.
Like theres not some crazy ass shirtless drunkard in front of him haha.
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Melvin..
you been smoking that sh*t again? Edgar is too fast and he has world class boxing skills. After he beats Gray black and blue, it will be your turn ( if you get by Lauzon)
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World class boxing? You and Melvin must be hanging out. We’ll see if Frankie the ballerina can stop doing backflips in the first against Gray this time. I got Gray sealing the deal.
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by The Pride on Jul 12, 2011 7:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I have a feeling Frankie would put a nasty beatdown on Melvin.
I like Melvin, but Frankie can use MIXED MARTIAL ARTS to beat him. Such as technical boxing, dynamic wrestling, and probably better juijits. I see Melvin getting punched in the face alot, maybe slammed, then choked out.
He is always dangerous though with those fucking bricks he calls fist.
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Frankie is the real deal and i’m certain time and a few more fights will solidify this with any doubters out there. I get the feeling Melvin is starting to slide back into his less impressive style behaviour/attitude. He’s winning which i like but i just hope he can keep a lid on it so we see him against the next tier of Light Weights and potentially even Frankie?
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