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Nate Marquardt announcement on failed medical exam, UFC release expected today at 1 pm ET

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Why was Nate Marquardt hastily released from the UFC after failing his pre-fight medical exam on the eve of UFC on Versus 4 last weekend in Pittsburgh?

And why was promotion president Dana White "disgusted" by what transpired?

Those questions were answered earlier today (June 28) when the former middleweight number one contender broke his silence on The MMA Hour over his messy break-up with the UFC.

What happened, when it happened and why it happened, after the jump.

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Nostradumbass here. Nate's in the house. Okay, here we go.

--Nate Marquardt is on the MMA Hour with his manager Lex McMahon. He was not medically cleared to fight at UFC on Versus 4 after failing a pre-fight blood test resulting from his Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT).

--He began treatment using the "therapeutic use exemption" in his fight against Dan Miller at UFC 128 in New Jersey after his primary physician diagnosed him with low testosterone in August of 2010.

--Nate was advised by his doctor to pursue a new, "more aggressive therapy" three weeks out from his fight against Rick Story. He took a blood test two weeks out from the fight and the levels came back too high. His doctor then told him to get off the treatment.

--McMahon notes Nate came off treatment as soon as he was advised to.

--Marquardt admits he "made a mistake" by not requesting an earlier blood test to check his levels. The test he took on the day of the UFC on Versus 4 weigh ins (June 25) was above the allowed limit by the Pennsylvania Athletic Commission (PAC).

--McMahon asserts Nate was not hiding anything and in constant communication with the UFC and was "caught in a difficult situation" due to the time constraints.

--Marquardt says his blood levels have returned to normal and expects to have his suspension lifted after a board meeting with the PAC later this week. He still does not have an answer as to why he suffers from low testosterone and McMahon interjects that it's not Nate's responsibility to know, it's the doctor's.

--An emotional Nate says he will take responsibility for "messing up" the UFC on Versus 4 main event.

--McMahon calls Marquardt a great man and a great fighter. Nate says he would never knowingly jeopardize his ability to provide for his family.

--Marquardt refers to the banned substance he was using in 2005 (Andro) that caused his previous suspension with the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) and hopes the "several years" he took the then-over the counter supplement is not to blame for his low testosterone.

--Nate says he was on TRT for his fight against Yushin Okami (UFC 122) and Rousimar Palhares (UFC Fight Night 22) with no issues but his levels were too high for this fight.

--Marquardt cannot reveal the levels of his blood on the day he failed his test until his suspension is lifted with the PAC. McMahon asserts Nate's blood levels were within range on the day of the fight.

--McMahon says they have nothing to hide.

--Marquardt took the TRT in pill form but switched to injections prior to the Story fight. It boosted function in his pituitary gland and testicles.

--McMahon says they are already seeking out a specialist to help with his low testosterone.

--Marquardt says the weight cut had nothing to do with his decision to resume TRT but believes it could have altered his blood levels, causing the levels to be elevated on the day of the weigh ins (blood "concentration") and significantly decreased the very next day.

--Nate talked to Dana after the shit hit the fan and while it wasn't said right away, he had the feeling he was done. Says he knew he messed up and that it was "real bad." McMahon says they didn't know Nate was fired until he saw it on Twitter.

--Marquardt still wants to fight at 170 and will not yet commit to fighting for another promotion. Wants to "let the dust settle." Calls it a "nightmare" but trusts his faith in God and is grateful for the support from his wife. Hints at trying to get back into the UFC at some point down the road.

--McMahon said they were tight-lipped over the situation to protect Marquardt and were hiding nothing.

--Nate gives one last emotional apology to his family and fans for "letting them down." Says he's "trying his best" and seeks forgiveness.

That's a wrap, Maniacs.

So there you have it. Now it's time to dissect this information and move forward. How about it Maniacs, did the punishment fit the crime? What's your take on this new information?

The floor is yours.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

He is using the same BS excuse Chael did. What a NOOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by DJ Pullout on Jun 28, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bet it is something very simple he forgot to do...waiting with bated breath

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by D_Smith on Jun 28, 2011 9:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I hope so, but I doubt it.

Athletes on this level have plenty of help with covering the simple things, or at least they should. Simple items missed are for Organizations below even Shark and Shine.

While I am not a Nate fan, I hope it is not a long-term permanent medical issue.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jun 28, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

If it were a permanent issue than there would have been no reason to have it taken care of before the fight, right?

If it were Hep C or something he would have been pulled 6 weeks ago. But he was told he had time to ‘take care of it’ and the way Dana was talking about he should be embarrassed he didn’t. That’s why it had me thinking it was some titer or booster or something along those lines. Something as a professional (with plenty of handlers) at his level, headlining a show w/ 10 hours of programming leading up to it…he had no business missing. We shall see.

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by D_Smith on Jun 28, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

That makes sense D

if it is a simple technicality, the backlash will be tremendously against him.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jun 28, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think it's mono

it is curable or at least treatable in 6 weeks and is highly contagious, so i can see if they wouldn’t allow him to compete that way. Swine flue or bird flue would have killed him in a matter of six weeks, so that can’t be it. Neither hiv nor aids sound posible since they wouldn’t even grant him a license that way. Pretty much any other illness would have taken care of itself in that time frame or killed him in the process, thus mono

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it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.

by vhw_ on Jun 28, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

He has ass herpes, and the manner in which he contracted it is what disgusted Dana.

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by P-Dub on Jun 28, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

He should have never spent time training with GSP

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by ViolentMike on Jun 28, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

that wasn't training!

fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.

by vhw_ on Jun 28, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Grappling is indeed MMA training.

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by Edgecrusher71 on Jun 28, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ever heard of riding rear mount?

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by Edgecrusher71 on Jun 28, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn't you hear nate and gsp used to pound eachother back in barn?

wait… i might have that story wrong

fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.

by vhw_ on Jun 28, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

back in the barn

way to fuck up my own joke

fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.

by vhw_ on Jun 28, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was Matt Hughes and his twin brother.

They used to pound each other behind the barn.

by DJ(MMA) on Jun 28, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

^^Jokes: He doesn't get them.

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by P-Dub on Jun 28, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.

by vhw_ on Jun 28, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

i am not a huge nate fan at all. But i would hate to see something long-term happen to him. He is a good fighter and can be exciting to watch.

by BDUBBS on Jun 28, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s signed with M-1.

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by darkside3744 on Jun 28, 2011 9:36 AM EDT reply actions  

I say it was super high testosterone.

by lance2576 on Jun 28, 2011 9:36 AM EDT reply actions  

But that's not embarrassing

I still think he has STD’s on his face.

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by ViolentMike on Jun 28, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

It could be that Arianny licked his underwear and thats how he got the Herp???

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by dandeman on Jun 28, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rampage made him do it.

Right after he gave him a swirly.

by jestermarcus on Jun 28, 2011 12:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Good call......

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by Dragon101 on Jun 28, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not going to be something awful.

I think the reason DW reacted the way he did was that Nate knew about this for six weeks and didn’t make the UFC aware until Thursday. It’s something that he probably should have been able to, or thought he’d be able to, clear up, but by not telling the UFC about what was going on, they had few options to make arrangements. If Dana knew 3 or 4 weeks out and Nate was having trouble getting it cleared up, Dana probably would have either helped him or said we’ll pull you off the card and figure something out. At least there would have been time to work it, rather than blow up the main event right before weigh-ins.

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by FragglesHateKos on Jun 28, 2011 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Hes joined the Priesthood?

Too cliche I know but had too.

by jestermarcus on Jun 28, 2011 11:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Naw, he is a member of the Super Adventure Club.

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by Edgecrusher71 on Jun 28, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh My God!

He’s immortal then! Dana had to let him go!

by jestermarcus on Jun 28, 2011 12:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Here's my prediction

He faked medical records or something like that 6 weeks ago and they’ve just realised that Dr. Mydoc doesn’t exist… something REALLY stupid.

by Rollman on Jun 28, 2011 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

His doc is Dr. Nick Riviera

and he absolutely exists. I’ve seen him on the Simpsons many times.

by Gurthee on Jun 28, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hi everybody !

by ClinchKing on Jun 28, 2011 12:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Calm down, or you’re going to give yourself skin failure!

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by P-Dub on Jun 28, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's pregnant

with gsp’s lovechild

fedor > gsp > a. silva
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by vhw_ on Jun 28, 2011 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

I really doubt its some kind of virus or disease or something.

Dana sounded utterly pissed. I would think the head of a major business like this would choose his words more carefully about a fan favorite who is simply sick. The things Dana said, Nate could have utterly embarrassed Dana if he came right out and said, “Yeah I got sick with ________, and thought I would be healthy in time, I wasn’t. And now he’s treating me like some kind of leper and firing me.”

Just going off of Dana’s tone, it sounds to me Nate cheated somehow and got caught. Fighters get sick all the time before fights, fighters have injuries they they to sneak past the medical board. None have ever been fired to my knowledge. Especially a high ranked fighter like Marquardt.

by jestermarcus on Jun 28, 2011 10:56 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Yup, it's like Nate raped DW's mom or something the way he went off on him.

I’m thinking Nate’s press release is not going to fully cover whatever the issue was either. The excuse will be vanilla and cyptic IMO.

by Gurthee on Jun 28, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

You don’t go off on somebody like that if they have a disease. Especially repeatedly using the word “disgusted” about them. No, despite Dana’s usual antics, he has more tact than to talk like that about a fan favorite who is legitimately sick. This is something else I believe. If not, if Nate really is sick, I will be upset that he tried to hide it, but also upset about Dana’s BS about manning up and telling the world about your personal medical issues.

by jestermarcus on Jun 28, 2011 11:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You don’t go off on somebody like that if they have a disease

If you dumped a ton of money into advertising the event, planned a whole Nate marathon the day of the event, built the whole event around a guy coming down in weight, and then find that your fighter hid a potentially disastrous medical issue, which jeopardized your investment(s)—— Dana’s reaction makes a lot of sense.

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by Deuce02 on Jun 28, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ya I'd go off on him too; because he had six weeks to tell the commission he had something and then stalled until 5 hours before the fight.

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by dandeman on Jun 28, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was like he was praying until the last minute for that ointment to work.

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by dandeman on Jun 28, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no problem with an in house suspension.

But turning this into a giant fiasco like this and firing the guy from the one promotion that owns the two biggest leagues over a virus just doesn’t add up to me. Maybe I’m wrong, we will know soon enough.

by jestermarcus on Jun 28, 2011 12:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The thing is, it appears everybody knew about this already.

Maybe not to the full extent. And please that "Marathon"barely showed Nate even after they announced it would go on regardless if he was fighting or not.

Biggest clue for me, is Dana basically saying Nate should man up and come clean and tell the fans he has a serious disease? Doesn’t make a whole lotta sense to me. I just don’t se Dana being such a dick over a fighter being sick when Chael and others have done much worse for the sports reputation.

by jestermarcus on Jun 28, 2011 12:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You don’t think it cost them anything to air that programming? You don’t think him waiting until the last minute to tell his boss he may not be able to fight didn’t have a lot to do with this?

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by Deuce02 on Jun 28, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

You dont think there have been others that have had similar issues?

All I’m saying is a virus or disease just doesn’t fit for me. I think he admitted to taking something before and they wanted a good reason why he took it and he couldn’t provide one. If it was a contagious virus I’d think we would have heard something from the camp already as they may be infected as well.

by jestermarcus on Jun 28, 2011 12:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I just hope its something worth hearing about

it would be a shame if he got for something stupid. i hope it something no one expected+

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by LowLife420 on Jun 28, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone else think

There will be server trouble and the stream won’t work?

by FightCardHammer on Jun 28, 2011 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I knew it.

“Low testosterone”!

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by Wrestling Uber Alles on Jun 28, 2011 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

TRT……..I told you guys. My source has never been wrong yet.

by Modusopks on Jun 28, 2011 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

good call

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by Newfie3 on Jun 28, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you get bored enough or care go read my long post in the other nate thread about how rampant this TRT stuff is…..with fighters who obviously do not need it. It’s just a loophole to legally cheat. Dana has been worried about something happening to blow the doors off and bring media attention to the trt issue and was why he suspended Sonnen tbh, not over his federal stuff it’s because he fucked up and brought attention to this trt programs all these fighters are using….same reason Todd Dufee was released so quickly he is on TRT. The ufc is fighting hard to legitimize MMA and this could set it back super big time. I’m shocked the MMA media has not been talking about why so many fighters are on TRT already……they will soon enough.

by Modusopks on Jun 28, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hendo is on TRT isnt he?

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by Newfie3 on Jun 28, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have heard that he is but of course no proof…..but yeah his name has been linked to TRT also. Randy C I have heard mentioned too. Those are two guys maybe old enough to require TRT tbf though.

by Modusopks on Jun 28, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Modusopks

i agree with your theory, but just one thing doesn’t fit. if DW doesn’t want the media covering TRT, why did he challenge Nate to come clean, thus calling even more attention to the issue?

by Adam Wagner on Jun 28, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come clean or come up with some good excuses as to prevent this from becoming the massive story that it has? He was the one behind Nate coming on the mma hour and I have also heard that he’s been in touch with Nate about things he should say and what he should not say on this show.

by Modusopks on Jun 28, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good stuff Modusopks

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by ViolentMike on Jun 28, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are no spring chickens….lol….guys like Todd D or Nate M look like freaking superheros no way they have low test. There are all kinds of ways you can flat out cheat those tests and the guidelines for who has low test is able to be read by a doc in so many ways that a crooked doc can justify putting you on test for any number of nonsensical reasons.

aside from all that though, he still tested way high so he was obviously taking way more than he should or using some kind of other test boosting substances….or he did not need to be on trt to begin with.

LOL @ he was close Nate is lying through his teeth right now.

by Modusopks on Jun 28, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

going to be another baseball scandal by the time MSM catches wind

This might be why Barnett still refuses to admit wrong doing, “hey everyone else is on the sauce”

by Str8_right on Jun 28, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve also been told that this “endocrinologist” is all bullshit….he was seeing a fertility doc and the commission made him go see an endocrinologist because they suspected his reasoning for getting on TRT were bogus….and the this doctor then upped his treatment and the commission did not like the idea because that is like thumbing the nose at them tbh.

by Modusopks on Jun 28, 2011 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah that is why he tested over even after they questioned his usage of trt…..that is a big fuck you to them obviously. It sounds like they were still going to let him fight til he tested over, but you have to take all this coming out of Nate’s mouth with a grain of salt imo….he is prob embellishing or out right lying about much of this.

by Modusopks on Jun 28, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

After Sonnen, Nate...

Should have fucking known better.

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by Sergio Hernandez on Jun 28, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

i still don't get why he would be released from the ufc..

Dana goes on record saying he feels bad for sonnen, but nate gets cut?

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by stinky~fingers on Jun 28, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats racist?

its probably due to the timing of the whole thing really

by Str8_right on Jun 28, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not black but Gingervitis.

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by dandeman on Jun 28, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, Marquardt has already...

Been implicated once for steroids.

And the argument COULD be made that Sonnen didn’t know any better. Obviously, after his case was brought to life, it would be insanely stupid for any fighter not to disclose any replacement therapy that could jeopardize them being cleared.

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by Sergio Hernandez on Jun 28, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know about nates previous implications, but at least he was going about this TRT issue the best way he could..

Sonnen actually lied to everyone.. Either way,it’s no big deal to me, im not a huge marquardt fan.. i just see danasactions being a little infair..

i thought it was going to be some std or something nasty that nate was trying to sneak around the way dana was going on about it..

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by stinky~fingers on Jun 28, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Read my above post, TRT is a big time secret that Dana nor the ufc wants getting media attention…..same reason why Todd dufee got dropped and why they put Sonnen on suspension so quickly. How many other fighters that got dui’s or ran from cops while getting a dui that were not put on suspension….come on it doesn’t take a genius to see what is going on.

by Modusopks on Jun 28, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

well there was rumor of him being on something to that effect.

Then using the am old as hell excuse for it. pfff, people need to get real and realize that Roids are rampant in MMA to the point that the whole elitist attitude of clean and fair fighting bs is nothing but a circle jerk of a joke. If you’re not on something then realize that you’re if not always most of the time at a disadvantage.

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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jun 28, 2011 1:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah steroids is very prevalent in the MMA scene….very very prevalent. I’m just speaking on the TRT stuff and how it’s going to blow up that many fighters are using this to justify boosting their test levels. I’m not saying that many fighters are not using steroids I’m just speaking on how this is MMA and more specifically the UFC’s big secret.

Maybe the MMA media will open their eyes about this now.

by Modusopks on Jun 28, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

they'll just use the training excuse

which is kinda valid, we train extremely hard and our bodies as a result of overtraining will produce less test so we need TRT to bring the levels back up to normal

by Str8_right on Jun 28, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah their trying to hide a huge TRT scandle?

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by stinky~fingers on Jun 28, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

legal steroids yeah

Prob just as bad as the sumos in Japan fixing the matches

by Str8_right on Jun 28, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

This does not really jive with what the PSAC said. They said it was something that Nate knew about six weeks out. Nate is making it sound like this all came down in a few weeks.

I am not saying he is a liar, but it conflicts with the official statement.

by Lynchman on Jun 28, 2011 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Dude...

Chael was after the fight, Nate had six week before the fight to make it right. At least Chael had the opportunity to “Play dumb” and the fans weren’t robbed of his excellent fight with Anderson Silva.

I get what you are saying but the two cases aren’t exactly the same. And Dana did suspend Chael albeit for his legal stuff, but he would say that he had “a lot going on with the AC and the legal stuff”

by jtc5150 on Jun 28, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is NATE 2nd F Up with substance, the first was with Salavarry.

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by dandeman on Jun 28, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes...double standard.

Chael moves PPVs, marqy marq doesnt.

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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jun 28, 2011 2:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

the punhsment doesnt fit the crime in my opinion

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by manalito on Jun 28, 2011 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Why?

Because Nate took steroids and that ruined his testicles so now he has to get hormone replacement therapy?

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by Wrestling Uber Alles on Jun 28, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

DW fell down on this one but that doesn't make him a monster.

There are a lot better ways to deal with Nate screwing up, but Dana has still done a lot of things right for the sport.

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by irq77 on Jun 28, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

ohhhhh man...

here come the tears.

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by stinky~fingers on Jun 28, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

That was so contrite and so fake…lol.

by Modusopks on Jun 28, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

booooo!!!!

See people, you see??? This is why we just need to get off the high horse and legalize all the roids and PEDs. Spot wasting the commissions time and the government/tax payers money. It makes for a better sport and stops wasting everyone time. As far as marqy marq – nandrolone wasnt working so he hops over to the therapy. Very weird how all these athletes all have low testosterone and need aggressive treatment only prior to their bouts. So pal, bellator and DREAM for you from now on.

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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jun 28, 2011 1:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

haha,

i always love your rants on allowing PED’s..

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by stinky~fingers on Jun 28, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by Ulf Murphy on Jun 28, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL @ he was close Nate is lying through his teeth right now.

I’ve heard he tested way way high. If it were a low level then why would he not release it? The commission would not give two shits about him talking about his reasons for getting suspended, he is just trying his best to sugar coat this whole situation.

by Modusopks on Jun 28, 2011 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

What's up with the timeline here?

Smells foul. TRT seems like a loophole for cheating. Nate seems like a cool guy in person, but this just seems like something really close to cheating. I re-watched the whole event last night. Best event ever???

Getting pretty tired of the Dana White spin…

Analysis so far: Fighters are continuing to try and find competitive advantages at the risk of their careers and Dana White handled this poorly.

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by irq77 on Jun 28, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed.I knew it had to be some kind of PEDs for Dana to be so pissed, and to hand out a lifetime ban.This is the same thing Sonnen was doing right? Sounds an awful lot like cheating to me. Low Testosterone? C’mon man! That’s a thing old men get get, usually over 50. Sorry Nate, you will get no sympathy from me. Dude blew his career, hope this is a lesson to other guys trying to skirt the rules.For once i totally agree with Dana. This was Nate’s 2d time, and Dana’s gonna keep the UFC as clean as possible.

by Guy Bezzar on Jun 28, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

No sympathy for Nate from me either.

If you play with fire you may get burned. I also understand Dana has a business to protect, so the decision makes sense but…..

Dana handled this poorly. The video announcing Nate was out showed no tact or skill in communication for a president of a huge business.

The comments from Dana about this being “The Best UFC Card Ever!” is total bullshit. Saying crap like that is what turns fans off when it’s such a blatant lie.

The only sympathy I have is for Rick Story. That guy got hosed.

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by irq77 on Jun 28, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

REALLY DANA???? you said that when the truth came out, we’d understand why you flipped, well no the truth is out and I have no idea why you would kick him out for that. BOOOO DANA WHITE FOR ONCE

by Michael Robinson on Jun 28, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

annnd he knew about it weeks in advance. he KNEW he was gonna test high and didnt do anything about it.

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by A.K on Jun 28, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was a dummy, he pays for it

too much dough involved..he fucked but i am sure he’ll be back

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by Lesnar's striking coach on Jun 28, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have been fucking everything in sight

to try to lower the testosterone level, or at least used that as an excuse

by Str8_right on Jun 28, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously. if i applied for a job and they told me I had to take a piss test in 6 weeks, i'd get clean.

what Nate did was abslutely idiotic. He could’ve gotten that stuff out of his system, but he was too concerned with trying to attain an illegal competitive advantage.

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by drain on Jun 28, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has Dana ever handled anything right? Dudes got no cool about him, gets pissed, and blurts things out.Maybe that’s why i like the guy. He will do most anything for his fighters, but if you cross him you’re done. No SF for Nate, Bamma, or Bellator?

by Guy Bezzar on Jun 28, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

the additional muscle thats gained will protect you more. The bigger and stronger your neck and surrounding muscles are, the better you’ll be able to handle hard shots

by Str8_right on Jun 28, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

So true! it gives them extra stamina, makes them a bit stronger, but mostly it’s a "head’ thing. Feel like they just can’t compete without that ‘edge’….Ask Manny Ramirez

by Guy Bezzar on Jun 28, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

atleast we still have that roid monkey scum bag named cheal

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by GOLDIGGAH on Jun 28, 2011 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I kinda feel bad for Nate.

I´m a Dana White fan but I think he got way too pissed off at Nate. I know he ruined the main event but the guy made a mistake. Sonnen doesn´t seem to be on Dana´s black list, so why is Nate?

by IceCold on Jun 28, 2011 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

obvious reasons

Nate got destroyed by Andy…Chael worked Andy over

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by Newfie3 on Jun 28, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That´s a good point but..

Dana is always talking about giving people second chances. He just seemed so pissed off. Like Nate had attacked his family or something. I just felt it was unnecessary. Although that´s how Dana is, I guess.

by IceCold on Jun 28, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

no employer should ever fire anyone via twitter video

regardless of what you did

Whats the difference between Two_Words and a bucket of shit? The bucket.

by Newfie3 on Jun 28, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nate says he was on TRT for his fight against Yushin Okami (UFC 122) and Rousimar Palhares (UFC Fight Night 22) with no issues but his levels were too high for this fight.

What the fuck?

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by Newfie3 on Jun 28, 2011 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

he was also on grease for ufn 22

fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.

by vhw_ on Jun 28, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice

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by ViolentMike on Jun 28, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's the truth.

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by freenow82 on Jun 28, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

So to boil it down

For 7 years he was taking some steroid-esque supplement which probably ruined his testicles so now he takes pills to stimulate testosterone production. Moral of the story: go the natural route. Yes, it’s harder. Yes, it takes longer. But it’s all health benefit and now permanent damage to your nuts.

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by Wrestling Uber Alles on Jun 28, 2011 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

whats crazy

is that there are weightlifting excercises that’ll boost your test naturally. Entire body excercises like power clings, deadlifts, squats, clean and jerk (haha).

by Str8_right on Jun 28, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

And taking steroids… might make you the money in the short run, but the damage to your body — testicles shutting down because they don’t need to produce test, etc. — jesus.

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by Wrestling Uber Alles on Jun 28, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

WRONG!

Irony is the clash of opposites. It is the juxtaposition of what is expected against what happens; what you know and what you think you know. And... Most people don't get it.

by irq77 on Jun 28, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

why is that retarded hella??

people need that shit

Whats the difference between Two_Words and a bucket of shit? The bucket.

by Newfie3 on Jun 28, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

We shall call this new drug WEE-ROID in one easy convienent pill.

I can see the commercials

Hey MMA fighters you tired of getting popped by the Man.

(Nick D) The man always be taking my blunts homes.

You looking for that Competitive edge but cant really trust your doctors.

(Nate Marq): Doctor told me to take those roids three weeks ago and said it would leave my system, now I have shrinkage and took TRT for 6 weeks.

Then you need the right balance of weed and steroids found in this convienent once a day pill. All the power of steroids but with the blunting of natural grown Jamaican red.

Now Weeroids can be yours for 4 easy payments of $29.99 per month,
thats right boys and girls 29.99 per month, so safe even little cyborg can take it.

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by dandeman on Jun 28, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

no they dont need it at all

but to group both in the “fucking retarded” category makes you fucking retarded

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by Newfie3 on Jun 28, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

fixed

medical steroids is like medical weed…fucking retardedvery potent

by Str8_right on Jun 28, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell yea! just a dodge to get past the authorities, Hope Dana cracks down on this stuff, he knows exactly what’s up. This is what B.J’s been talking about…..

by Guy Bezzar on Jun 28, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh so now it's the doctors fault?!?

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by stinky~fingers on Jun 28, 2011 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

He was going to a jank ass fertility doc I’ve been saying this from the beginning…..he’s been saying up until now in this interview that it was his primary care phys. that was giving him the trt treatment now the commission said the doctor giving him these treatments was incomplete and not acceptable…lol. they should end this interview if they knew what was good for them. Lying like hell.

Like I said we should take anything Nate says here with a grain of salt. He is looking to blame anyone and anything for his own fuck up .

by Modusopks on Jun 28, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Mod

You have been very vocal about what was going to happen here and why.

Do you have time to write down all the discrepancies in the form of a fanpost, or put them below and I will summarize into a fanpost?

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by Ulf Murphy on Jun 28, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can later this afternoon would that be good for you? Like maybe by three o’clock est time? I’ve got to get some things done here I have spent most of my morning talking about this…lol.

by Modusopks on Jun 28, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

whatever is good for you

I won’t get back until late tonight.

You are much more into the details than I am, so anything would be good. Thanks!

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by Ulf Murphy on Jun 28, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

O.k yeah I’ll post the FP, give me til around three est or so. I thought about doing it anyway so this bit of encouragement was just what I needed. I am shocked the MMA media is not discussing the test therapy more often. O.k gotta get some work done will post it by three. Peace UM

by Modusopks on Jun 28, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll put together some of the major issues between now and then post them below and if you don’t mind I’ll let you put the info into a fanpost. I think you could do a much bettter job at creating something readable tbf lol. Is that alright with you?

by Modusopks on Jun 28, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am good with that.

I may not be able to post until tomorrow.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jun 28, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL they have been saying that the doc Nate was using was all on the up and up now his manger just said the commission stated his doc was incomplete yadda yadda…lol. I told you guys he was going to a jank ass fertility doctor. They need to shut up now they are getting caught in lies.

by Modusopks on Jun 28, 2011 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

he is sounding more and more like a liar, but i still don't see how the ufc is hiding this TRT scandle from the public..

Obviously there are fighters out there who may need TRT, and it’s even more obvious that nate was being sneaky about it and dana fired him for being sneaky about doctor papers and what not..

how does this prove anything about Zuffa or any commission hiding the use of TRT’s?

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by stinky~fingers on Jun 28, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

fertility doc?

so him and gsp can’t father a baby? that would explain why gsp keeps on wrestlefucking all those other dudes, the man just wants a kid!

fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.

by vhw_ on Jun 28, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL excellent

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by freenow82 on Jun 28, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO…….HA! I’m rec’ing this comment I don’t care how mad it makes others here that shit needs to be recognized it deserves some shine imo!

by Modusopks on Jun 28, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

So if this is the same shit that Sonnen got popped for......

How did Sonnen past his pre-fight test but fail the post-fight test?? Or was there no pre-test??

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by Dragon101 on Jun 28, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

he failed prefight

he even warned them about the result

fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.

by vhw_ on Jun 28, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

That´s a great question.

It seems to be the same therapy that Sonnen was on so why didn´t he fail his drug test before he fought Silva?

by IceCold on Jun 28, 2011 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Fire Sonnen now please Dana !

by Simon West on Jun 28, 2011 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Just found this quote of Nate's from 7 months ago:

“My thinking is, it doesn’t matter if the guy I’m fighting is on steroids,” he said. “I don’t care about that. I should be able to beat him either way. I feel like I can fight someone on steroids and still have them at a disadvantage.”

“If you’re a true athlete, the best way is to be natural. Anything you get from steroids you’re trading off somewhere else, whether it’s your cardio or longevity in the sport. You need all those things.”

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by drain on Jun 28, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I dont know much about this stuff, but would it of made that much of a better fighter?

You guys wanna play knifey spooney?

by liverpoolsnxt on Jun 28, 2011 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

man theres a lot of bold comments above me :)

kinda crappy situation if you believe nate. don’t know about being fired but i guess he should’ve been on top of his shit

by Burlzilla129 on Jun 28, 2011 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

great...

the tears are back.

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by stinky~fingers on Jun 28, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

MUAHAHAHAHA HE IS SONNEN PART TWO!

FUCK HIM! GOOD RIDDENS!

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by freenow82 on Jun 28, 2011 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

What are riddens?

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by mythbuster on Jun 28, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Russian form of Riddums?

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by Dakatak on Jun 28, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

someone knows!

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by freenow82 on Jun 28, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better than anything I can come up with. +1

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by mythbuster on Jun 28, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

a common misspelling... GOOD RIDDENS I SAID! NOT SO GREAT! FUCK HIM!

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by freenow82 on Jun 28, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's in the urban dictionary!

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by freenow82 on Jun 28, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

So is lemon party!

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by mythbuster on Jun 28, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

and it should be!

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by freenow82 on Jun 28, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even worse than Sonnen in many ways….but yeah I dislike cheaters even though many do cheat taking banned substances in MMA that does not mean I should sell out what I stand for and support guys who I now know are cheating, but this TRT thing is nothing but another loophole into massively boosting your test particularly during training camp before a fight when a fighter would definitely benefit from super high levels of test.

by Modusopks on Jun 28, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. I think there is about 1% chance that he actually needed it.

Suffering from low levels of testosterone? It’s a fuckin joke. He is a pro MMA fighter who has been fighting successfully for years. Gets destroyed by Okami and all the sudden you have low testo? Yeah right Nate.

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by freenow82 on Jun 28, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if his 'doctor' has other clients that need to be looked at?

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by mythbuster on Jun 28, 2011 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

lol I think Clay Guida definitely needs some testosterone

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by freenow82 on Jun 28, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some people are fuckin morons..He was straight forward..whether he needed it or not was the doctors decision wasnt it..he was diagnosed..as soon as he was advised to stop BY A DOCTOR HE STOPPED..Chael sonned lied about it and for some reason because he had a great fight with silva its totally different in dana’s eyes..Seems like he did everything he needed to do but it was too high so he got cut..for all the steroid users in the ufc that actually got caught it just baffles me that he was so harsh on him for it

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by B0NeS on Jun 28, 2011 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

3 weeks ago Nate knew that he was high and might fail

There are quality guys that could have stepped in on 3 weeks notice for the MAIN EVENT for the UFC’s FIRST SHOW in Pittsburgh.

Do you not see how unprofessional Nate’s team was in not notifying the UFC as to the possibility that he would fail?

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by Ulf Murphy on Jun 28, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

grant got hurt

he got paid.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jun 28, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

hurt? I thought he got really sick.

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by ViolentMike on Jun 28, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Nate fucked up on many various levels…..not sure why anyone would try to defend his actions unless they just do not understand the situation.

by Modusopks on Jun 28, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its not like he knew for a fact he couldnt make it..and its stupid that he got the hammer dropped on him for not notifying the ufc..chael sonnen fucked up and didnt say anything about it but he is still golden if it wasnt for the real estate shit and lying to keith kizer he would be fighting okami or something for number 1 contender..dana white even said he did his time but they did him dirty…so if it was before the fight he failed then it would disgust him!!

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by B0NeS on Jun 28, 2011 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

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