Melvin Guillard: A lightweight grand prix tournament is the solution for the 155-pound division
Brackets? We don't need no stinking brackets ... actually, we do, at least according to Melvin Guillard.
It ain't easy being a top contender in the 155-pound division. If you are, you're one of many and your spot in the pecking order is up for constant debate.
That's the issue currently facing "The Young Assassin," who thinks he should be ranked a lot higher than his current standing. Example (via ESPN):
"I honestly felt after the [Evan] Dunham fight that it was going to move me a lot higher. But they're still ranking guys like Dennis Siver ahead of me, and I knocked this chump out in less than two minutes. He even called me out again, trying to fight me again. But a lot of fights aren't making sense, and I don't really have a choice [but to fight Roller] because of the traffic jam with the weight class."
Indeed, Guillard destroyed Evan Dunham back in January and yet, according to the rankings, it's like the fight never happened at all.
That just doesn't seem right.
On top of that, he was thrown on the UFC 132 fight card and matched up with the unheralded Shane Roller, a WEC import who has just one victory inside the Octagon. No wonder Guillard is pissed.
No one likes a complainer that doesn't offer up a solution of his own, though, and thankfully that's not the route old Melvin has taken. He's got a great idea for the crowded lightweight division -- a grand prix tournament.
"Edgar and Maynard still haven't fought again, so right now everybody's at a standstill. The only solution I see is them doing a 155-pound grand prix tournament, and putting everybody in brackets and weeding the losers to giving a true No. 1 contender a fight here in the next year or so."
Octagon Madness.
Strikeforce is in the midst of their very own heavyweight grand prix tournament and, aside from the Alistair Overeem vs. Fabricio Werdum abomination, it has been an extremely successful endeavor.
It might take some convincing for UFC President Dana White to ever do such a thing but let's be real -- who wouldn't want to see this?
We'll play copy cat of the Strikeforce grand prix and run an eight man field and see how it shakes out.
Taking Frankie Edgar (the division champion) and Gray Maynard (the set-in-stone number one contender) out of the equation, here are the top eight lightweights according to the USA Today/SB Nation consensus rankings (note: this is as of May 27, 2011):
1. Jim Miller
2. Anthony Pettis
3. Sean Sherk
4. Melvin Guillard
5. Clay Guida
6. George Sotiropoulos
7. Dennis Siver
8. Ben Henderson
Kenny Florian and B.J. Penn were both left off this list due to their taking up new digs in the featherweight and welterweight divisions, respectively.
Based on those rankings, which will be updated within the next few days for the month of June, so this will more than likely change, possibly drastically, here is what the match-ups would look like, for now:
Jim Miller vs. Ben Henderson
Anthony Pettis vs. Dennis Siver
Sean Sherk vs. George Sotiropoulos
Melvin Guillard vs. Clay Guida
Conveniently enough, Miller and Henderson are already set to square off at UFC on Versus 5 this coming Aug. 14 in Milwaukee. The rest of the proposed match-ups are fresh, though, and intriguing to say the least.
This is all conjecture and done in good fun, of course, but Guillard has brought up an interesting proposition for a weight class that is badly in need of some order.
What do you think, Maniacs? You up for this?
If you are and you don't like the first round match-ups based on the rankings currently in place, feel free to put together a bracket and include it in the comments section below.
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i would say
just switch pettis and guida…pettis v. guillard = fireworks
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
Guillard vs Cerrone would be interesting.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Hell yeah
Donald would get DESTROYED.
Paul Kelly was lighting him up in the 1st…and Melvin is like 5x faster and 5x more powerful….would be a bad night for the cowboy.
Axe Murderer
agreed
Has a sig bet with Californication for Wiman/Siver at UFC 132
Further more, I have a sig bet with Chronogata on Lesnar over JDS
by doonerthesooner on Jun 23, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
While I agree that Guillard would get the KO...
I wouldn’t absolutely rule out Cowboy by submission.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Donald wud sub melvin faster than rich no love clementi did.
No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth
by d*locc on Jun 23, 2011 3:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No with his K-1 level striking.
No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth
by d*locc on Jun 23, 2011 5:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cerrone faced other guys that hit hard and they’e either been beaten, picked apart or submitted.
Guillard is still fairly one dimensional. athletic, quick, hits hard.
Cerrone would make adjustments like he does, and Guillard would tire and Cerrone would sub him.
this is the same guy that got popped for cocaine in his system. he’d be further up the rankings if he had done a lot of other things different too and not been jerking around.
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on Jun 23, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Cerrone has faced...
anyone like Guillard.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
I feel dumb now
Has a sig bet with Californication for Wiman/Siver at UFC 132
Further more, I have a sig bet with Chronogata on Lesnar over JDS
by doonerthesooner on Jun 23, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Would love it. Even a 16 man tourny. Make frankie and gray fight in it. Bring melendez over and throw guys like cerrone in there to give them a shot.
by ToeLock6 on Jun 23, 2011 3:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I like the bracket system in any div
Jackie chan hates MMA. Well FUCK Jackie chan I hate shitty movies!!!
by malito3og3 on Jun 23, 2011 3:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Guillard and Guida might not fight due to both being at Gregjax
switch Pettis and Guida to have Guillard and Huggy on opposite sides. No chance Guida gets by winner Bendo or Miller.
They just need to sign Miller/Guillard after both win. easy peasy.
Last of the hopeless fools
no way does guillard deserve miller yet
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Why not?
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Miller deserves the chap and that's it.
Has a sig bet with Californication for Wiman/Siver at UFC 132
Further more, I have a sig bet with Chronogata on Lesnar over JDS
by doonerthesooner on Jun 23, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that Miller is next.
But god forbid something pushes back the Edgar-Maynard fight again, and Miller needs an opponent, you don’t think Guillard is worthy?
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
millers fighting bendo
and if it gets pushed back it will be guida.
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Meaning...
Guida vs Miller?
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
yep
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
I would rather see Guillard with Miller.
He arguably has a better record with wins over better opponents.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
who guillard?
dunham ok,but a runaway dec over stephens ,a tko over waylon lowe?,then 2 dodgy decisions with a sub loss to diaz sandwiched in.Im still not sold on guillard yet.
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
by the way i meant he ran away from stephens the whole fight
not ran away with an easy decision
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
But he got the win over Stephens.
You can’t criticize Melvin’s wins without doing the same for Guida. Let’s hear your take on Guida-Pettis.
And Guida has beaten who recently? Gomi? Dos Anjos? Gugerty?
I’m more sold on Melvin than I am on Guida.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
He will brutalize Roller
the fight was a step down for Guillard, but will be in contention for KO of the year, IMO, and will be on Spike pre-lims meaning 1.5 million will see him do it.
Last of the hopeless fools
i thinks thats exactly why hes on the prelim.
being on the prelim card isnt as much of a negative thing anymore. not with free undercards on spike and FB streams.
Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard.
Dark Horse for the Mania Money Pool. Watch out Old Man...
this fight goes like this
roller shoots a double, rolls melvin over, rear naked choke. melvin throws a baby fit cries he got dry humped by a gay dude..
i like melvin though funny guy
that wont ever happen aha, melvin never gets taken down.. aha
Mauro: "Theres a left by Jackson…. or make that Randleman, sorry!"
Rampage: "Thats alright, all black folks look alike."
by Rampagelangford on Jun 23, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Or...
Roller shoots a double, gets blasted with the weapons Melvin calls his hands and knees, and Melvin walks away with $70K in cash.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
this x10000 ^^
Mauro: "Theres a left by Jackson…. or make that Randleman, sorry!"
Rampage: "Thats alright, all black folks look alike."
by Rampagelangford on Jun 23, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
7 of 8 losses by submission tell me anyone with grappling skills is a serious threat to melvin.. people forget roller is also very good at bjj not just an all american
Evan Dunham had grappling skills, howd that turn out when he got melvin down? for about 30 seconds?
Mauro: "Theres a left by Jackson…. or make that Randleman, sorry!"
Rampage: "Thats alright, all black folks look alike."
by Rampagelangford on Jun 23, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely a possibility.
And Roller didn’t exactly look spectacular his last time out.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
It's either going to be...
Melvin by KO or decision, or Roller by submission.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Asking for too much. I’d love a card just lw fights from top to bottom but it’d be like this SF tournament. Fights every 6 months is ish, division is too busy.
Mauricio Rua
Jon Jones
by danago on Jun 23, 2011 3:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think Dana wouldnt let that happen
Just because he’d be against so it would have to be organized maybe every 2 or 3 months.
Cool Story Hansel
by redfox54 on Jun 24, 2011 12:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This should be the norm
but a smaller bracket top 4 and keep it rotating so as someone moves up you start another bracket right behind them. That way the champ can fight 2 or 3 times a year.
Let's take...
A look at this logically.
GSot and Pettis are coming off losses so they’re out.
Miller is already fighting Henderson so that’ll eliminate one of those guys.
So that leaves Siver/Melvin/Sherk/Guida.
Do Sherk/Guida and Melvin (should he beat Roller) against the Miller/Henderson winner.
Siver can keep busy against Pettis or the loser of Miller/Henderson.
by Sergio Hernandez on Jun 23, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions
This
And thank you for not forgetting the muscle shark
Has a sig bet with Californication for Wiman/Siver at UFC 132
Further more, I have a sig bet with Chronogata on Lesnar over JDS
by doonerthesooner on Jun 23, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the same fucker that didn't want 2 fight kflo cuz he wasn't on his level =D
No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth
by d*locc on Jun 23, 2011 3:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Then don't bitch about supposed chumps being ranked higher than U.
Anything else?
No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth
by d*locc on Jun 23, 2011 3:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So Melvin blasts some dude in the first round...
and he bitches that the guy is ranked above him. Which he has a right to do. Siver is on the main card while Melvin is stuck on the prelims.
How is the bullshit you’re saying in any way related?
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
He turned down florian for Shane roller U kidding me?
Talk about taking a huge fuckin step back. I like Evan but has he honestly done or who has he beat 2 be ranked so high? He didn’t want 2 step up so quit bitching. There R a shit load of heads infront him for a title shot.
No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth
by d*locc on Jun 23, 2011 4:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't think the Florian fight was ever offered.
And I understand his position with respect to Kenny. Kenny was nowhere near a title shot after going 0-2 in the big dance. He wants wins over people that are in title contention. Kenny isn’t that guy. Everyone knew that, even Kenny; which is why he dropped down.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
This...
…just because KenFlo said he wanted to fight Melvin doesn’t mean the UFC wanted him to…..you’re losing brownie points d"locc
Melvin made it clear he didn't want 2 fight Kenny.
Melvin fans can say wut they want but every1 knows Kenny was a horibble fight for him. He really think a win over dunham shud get him a title shot which is insane. Even if Kenny lost his last fight a win over wud have put him in the mix.
No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth
by d*locc on Jun 23, 2011 5:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Shane Roller was punishment for turning down Florian, d
Miller/Bendo winner
Sherk
who else? Maybe Guillard should fight Sherk after he murderlizes Roller.
Last of the hopeless fools
good call on sherk
that will tell us where melvin is.My moneys on sherk even with the layoff
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Sherk's actually doing very well in rehab
Plans return this summer
X Gym/Vega Muay Thai/Nova Uniao & WMA
by CharactersAnalysis on Jun 23, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
he is the forgotten warrior in the equation
only loses to elite fighters, but hardly ever fights any more.
Last of the hopeless fools
I don't think...
Sherk beats any of the top guys anymore. Maybe Pettis, however, seeing how terrible his TDD is.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Yea Prime Hughes, Young n Hungry GSP, Well Trained Motivated BJ
Underdog Up n Comer Edgar, yup if Sherk comes back feeling good even at 37 years old, He could still be a decent contender in the title hunt or even gatekeeper. I mean if his knees don’t fail him and his hands aren’t broken he’ll be back to grinding guys out in no time.
X Gym/Vega Muay Thai/Nova Uniao & WMA
by CharactersAnalysis on Jun 23, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the sound of Sean Sherk VS G-Sot
I think Sherk has good enough wrestling to avoid any of G-sots submissions and grind him out
X Gym/Vega Muay Thai/Nova Uniao & WMA
by CharactersAnalysis on Jun 23, 2011 4:17 PM EDT reply actions
Yea Dos Anjos for the upset
He won’t be subbed and won’t be KO’d
X Gym/Vega Muay Thai/Nova Uniao & WMA
by CharactersAnalysis on Jun 23, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
go fight in bellator then, you dumbass!
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
Great contribution.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
i know, right?
what else do you want me to say? he thinks one win coming off a lousy showing against lil’ heaten warrants him a title shot or title contention? fuck that bullshit. If he wants an easy way into a title shot he should probably move on to strikeforce or bellator.
until he can defend a double successfully he shouldn’t be calling anyone out
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
VHW as usual
KEEPING IT REAL!
X Gym/Vega Muay Thai/Nova Uniao & WMA
by CharactersAnalysis on Jun 23, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Is he asking for the easy way to the title shot?
No. Just the opposite. He wants top contenders, not Shane Roller.
Annihilating the guy they were grooming for title contention has to do something for him.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
that's an easy way out
look at jim miller, he’s fought and beaten better competition yet you don’t see him clamoring for a tournament nor a title shot. At one point g-sot only wanted to fight and wasn’t asking for a title shot even after going 6-0 or so and beating stevenson, pellegrino and j-lau.
damn be the crack, it really messed up with his head
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
If Miller wasn't so fucking quiet...
he might have been promised a title shot a while ago.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Not until recently.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
I'm not knocking anyone. I love when guys talk shit. It makes everything more interesting.
If I’m knocking anyone, it’s Miller for not speaking up earlier.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
got any links?
fedor > gsp > a. silva
it's much more impressive to control a guy like fitch for 5 rounds than it is to beat leites in any fashion. The quality of opposition tells a story as well.
He wants top contendors like who?
He was given that chance against kflo & declined. Not only that he did it in a douche bag way. A win over Kenny wud have def put up ther in the title picture.
No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth
by d*locc on Jun 23, 2011 4:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Kenny was nowhere near a title shot. You know that.
And so did he, that’s why he booked it.
Melvin wants guys on the way toward a title shot, not guying like Kenny who are moving quickly in the opposite direction.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
why did kenny move down then? cus he knew he didnt have a chance at LW
and Melvin just beat Dunham who was the next big thing, he destroyed him. Melvin future champ
Mauro: "Theres a left by Jackson…. or make that Randleman, sorry!"
Rampage: "Thats alright, all black folks look alike."
by Rampagelangford on Jun 23, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
How was a guy coming off a loss to Sean Sherk the “next big thing”?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Because he won that fight and Dana treated it like a win.
Hell, they were giving Florian to Dunham next.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Undefeated when he fought Sherk.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Undefeated when hefoughtlost to Sherk.
Fixed.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
And Jones lost to Hamill.
Anything else?
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Seriously?
You think Dunham beat Sherk by DQ?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
No.
But you’re pretty much the only one treating that fight as if Sherk was the actual winner.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Why would you bring up Hammil vs Jones? One ended by DQ, the other by decision.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Because both don't show who actually won the fight.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Gotcha
And Kimbo beat Tank Abbott
Cool! Unrelated fight results FTW!
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I know, it was a crazy fight!
I thought for sure the fight would end by heart attack, but no Kimbo pulled it out!
Oh, and also Cyborg Santos beat Gina Carano.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
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Your head.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
I know your point. You’re pulling shit out of your ass hoping something makes sense, but it doesn’t. Hammill vs Jones (DQ) has nothing at all to do with Dunham vs Sherk (decision).
You stretched too far on that one, and I mock you for it.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Your ability to understand simple comparisons and analogies...
is worthy of mockery.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Make a point
or make with the hush.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
It wad just perfect timing for him.
Like when Semtex fought kampman. I like Evan but I never thot he was anything gr8. Efrain escudero who isn’t known for his punching power almost knocked Evan the fuck out but gassed.
No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth
by d*locc on Jun 23, 2011 5:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I never thought he was spectacular either.
But it was obvious the UFC was grooming him for title contention.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Obvious how?
And how was the UFC “grooming him”?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Eh?
Dunham didn’t fight Kenny.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Jesus.
Dunham and Florian had signed to fight. Kenny got hurt. Melvin stepped in and blasted Dunham.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
I guess Melvin should have accepted the fight with Kenny then, so he could be “groomed” too.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
lol!
Nice try.
There was no “grooming”.People just trying to pump up Melvin more than he’s worth.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I asked you to tell me what “being groomed” meant, and you said a fight with Florian. Then you said it wasn’t for Melvin.
What is being groomed? Explain or don’t, but saying it doesn’t make it true. The burden of proof is on you, sir.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
You won't understand regardless.
So what’s the point.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Good one.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Being groomed is being given a elite fighter as an opponent to see if you will propel yourself into the elite class. Then when you lose a controversial decision you are given another elite/former champion in your very next fight.
ok, then I ask again
Why wouldn’t it have been considered grooming if Melvin took the fight with Kenny?
Why the difference?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
It would have I never argued differently. Anytime you are a bringe contender and are given a elite former champ that is grooming
ok
Then why did you say:
“Different fighter, different paths, different scenarios” when I mentioned it the first time?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Because you shouldnt compare two different scenarios. It isnt really fair to the argument since both are two totally different occurences.
I think they would be very similar
It’s the same weight class, two fighters trying to climb the ladder to the title.
Kenny either is or isn’t a stepping stone, a gatekeeper, whatever for a fighter in that situation – Melvin or Evan.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
"Lose" a fight and they give you Kenny Florian.
A guy who has been an upper-echelon fighter for years.
That’s grooming.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Wait
So now Kenny is upper echelon? I thought he wasn’t, and that’s why Melvin didn’t want to fight him?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Jesus Christ you're a fucking moron.
Read my other comments, and if you can’t figure out what I’m saying, that’s on you shitbird.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Onto the insults eh.
Should have figured that would come soon.
Either Kenny is upper echelon or he isn’t.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Ok, here we go...
Kenny is upper-echelon. No one ever doubted that or said anything otherwise. But he is so far away from a title shot after losing two and one title contender bout that Melvin wanted nothing to do with him. Melvin wanted guys that were moving up the latter, not, as I said earlier, guys that were moving quickly in the opposite direction.
I normally don’t use insults, but damn man, think.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
I understand perfectly.
In the minds of Melvin fans, Kenny is wherever it is convenient for their current argument.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
As to your first statement...
I disagree completely.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
He was coming off a loss to Sherk. So umm yes, he wasn’t the “next big thing”.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Fuck the general consensus.
Dana White is all that matters.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
nah
Dana is a figurehead, he actually has little power.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Wrong.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
IIRC
Joe Silva is the match maker, and Lorenzo took over most of the operations a while back.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Haha… Dana is the most powerful man in MMA hands down. Dana makes the high profile fights when he wants them made.
He’s the most powerful man who has been overruled (publically) at least a few times that we know about.
Don’t be fooled just because the guy jumps in front of every camera he sees, and his name is synonymous with the UFC.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
When was he overruled publicly?
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
IIFC
He was against TUF, and he was against TUF England vs USA.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Well let's see some facts.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Whats the point?
You wouldn’t understand it anyway.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Just lay some facts out.
Those are easy enough to understand.
Just link some articles.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Here's on Princess
You can research the others on your own time.
http://mmafrenzy.com/7189/dana-white-criticizes-us-vs-uk-ultimate-fighter-format/
"I said from day one I hate the UK v USA idea. It’s dumb, I don’t like it — it’s not USA v the UK, we’re looking for the best fighter in the world. We put on a card one time, the USA v Canada, it was f***ing retarded."
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Well
They had the show, despite Dana being against it.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Where is the overruling. Dana didnt say I tried not doing it. He said he wasnt happy about it, but that is business often times money overrules. Not Lorenzo or Joe Silva. $$$$
So what? TUF is a venture project with Spike of course he doesnt have all the pull in that. But I bet if Dana really didnt want too he wouldnt have. Plain and simple.
You think Dana and his 10% have more say in the UFC than Lorenzo?
Seriously?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Why does it have to be more? I am sure Lorenzo is fine with the way Dana is running things…. $$$$
Lorenzo has only once gone over Dana and that was with Fitch. And if you think Dana is still only 10% you are mistaken
Dana owns 10% of the company (unless they recently gave him more). And the Fitch thing (thanks, I forgot that one) was only public. We have no idea what goes on behind the scenes – but the fact remains that someone CAN go over Danas head.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Dana doesnt have to be given more its a company he can buy more.
And Lorenzo doesnt go over Dana’s head. He trusts Dana to make the company $$$
No idea
You show me where the general consensus at the time was that Dunham was the next big thing, and being groomed for the belt.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Don't play dumb.
Everyone thought Dunham won.
Dana doesn’t give out win bonuses and keep you moving up the ladder after a loss unless you got robbed.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Which brings me to my next point:
Don’t smoke crack.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Might want to CC Krazy Horse with that tidbit of information.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
I liked Crazy Horse. The guy had a fun personality!


"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
lol
'Primitive Magic is replaced by Religion, which in turn is replaced by Science'
-JGF
by *Californication* on Jun 23, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Crazy Horse is one of my faves, just based on personality. He did some weird shit in the ring lol
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Among other things.
unorthodox defines the guy.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Any1 remember krazy horseGetting hit w/ a yellow card in pride for tackling that ref.
No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth
by d*locc on Jun 23, 2011 5:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No
I’ll have to youtube it later. Sounds about right lol
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I think it's in 1 of the bushidos.
Hilarious! KH is mean mugging the camera wile the ref is telling them the rules, the ref slaps’m fuckin hard on the chest 2 or 3 times sticks his finger in his face gives him a verbal warning. After KH wins he crawls 2 the ref takes him wile screaming then gets hit w/ a yellow card. His face goes from smiling to :( in zero seconds.
No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth
by d*locc on Jun 23, 2011 6:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrlt94GTf7g
3:25 mark is the referee
but go to the 7:00 mark also for Krazy Horse goodness lol
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Haaahaa gr8 stuff!
The mug shots @ the end had me rolling!
No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth
by d*locc on Jun 23, 2011 7:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lol
nah…he wouldn’t be nearly as entertaining.
That is like asking War Machine to learn to shut-up.
Last of the hopeless fools
Roller will upset him
Wrestlers with good subs have always beaten Melvin.
Forget Dolce, people should really look into this Story diet; all you have to do is cut out Alves’ balls from your meals. Really helps you shed the blind nuthugging weight during fight pick time!!! Tibau for FW
by Johnny WF on Jun 23, 2011 4:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Melvin has trouble with submission guys.
Not wrestlers.
I think (and hope) that he’s fixed that submission problem with Jackson.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Roller has great submissions.
This will look like Roller-Njokuani.
Forget Dolce, people should really look into this Story diet; all you have to do is cut out Alves’ balls from your meals. Really helps you shed the blind nuthugging weight during fight pick time!!! Tibau for FW
by Johnny WF on Jun 23, 2011 4:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think...
Roller is getting put to sleep.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
That would be the plan.
If Roller loses to Melvin, that’s pretty much as expected. If Melvin loses to Roller, that’s a huge crack in Melvins chances.
This is a gimme fight for Melvin. It’s his to lose.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Njokuani is a better striker than Melvin and he couldn't put Shane down
Sig bet?
Forget Dolce, people should really look into this Story diet; all you have to do is cut out Alves’ balls from your meals. Really helps you shed the blind nuthugging weight during fight pick time!!! Tibau for FW
by Johnny WF on Jun 23, 2011 5:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I've never sig bet.
So what’s the deal?
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Each guy picks a fighter
Whoever’s fighter wins gets to decide the loser’s signature for two weeks.
Forget Dolce, people should really look into this Story diet; all you have to do is cut out Alves’ balls from your meals. Really helps you shed the blind nuthugging weight during fight pick time!!! Tibau for FW
by Johnny WF on Jun 23, 2011 5:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ok. I'm in.
I need to write this down somewhere. Short-term memory.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
How the fuck was he exposed?
He was on his way to a 29-28 over Barboza before that kick.
Forget Dolce, people should really look into this Story diet; all you have to do is cut out Alves’ balls from your meals. Really helps you shed the blind nuthugging weight during fight pick time!!! Tibau for FW
by Johnny WF on Jun 23, 2011 6:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ill sigbet you on the melvin fight mutha fucka!!!
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by mistahsupahyphy on Jun 23, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
first of all lemme say FUCK MELVIN BITCH ASS GUILLARD and if he had just fought with Ken-Flo and won he would have either gotten Pettis and won the right to challenge either the winner of Edgar Maynard III or he would’ve got Pettis or Miller obvious step ups in competition.
"We will be perfect in every aspect of the game. You drop a pass, you run a mile. You miss a blocking assignment, you run a mile. You fumble the football and I will break my foot off in your John Brown hind parts...and then you will run a mile. Perfection. Let's get to work."
Coach Boone
Remember The Titans [2000]
by jlim4 on Jun 23, 2011 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I love internet hardasses.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
haha me 2!
he wouldn’t bust a grape in a food fight
by mguillardfan701 on Jun 23, 2011 5:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He had Dunham
Rematch vs SIver wouldve made sense after Siver beat G-sot. Roller is irrelevant in this division
Mauro: "Theres a left by Jackson…. or make that Randleman, sorry!"
Rampage: "Thats alright, all black folks look alike."
by Rampagelangford on Jun 23, 2011 5:00 PM EDT reply actions
I would have loved to see...
Melvin destroy Siver again.
"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift
Ditto
Melvins wrestling and judo throws are great to watch he’s just so powerful! and Siver isnb’t all that great
Mauro: "Theres a left by Jackson…. or make that Randleman, sorry!"
Rampage: "Thats alright, all black folks look alike."
by Rampagelangford on Jun 23, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
melvin is chasing the belt
he has a nice win streak going but i think he should just focus on his next fight and keep winning and stop trying to talk himself into the title picture. If it comes it comes. With wec guys in the mix its a crowded division
by rdchannels on Jun 23, 2011 6:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
200th comment!
I WIN!!
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