Ben Askren calls Anthony Johnson a cowardly immature idiot, 'Rumble' calls 'Funky' some bushy headed kid
by Geno Mrosko on May 11, 2011 3:19 AM EDT
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Well, this got ugly in a hurry.
In a recent interview with FiveKnuckles.com, Bellator welterweight standout wrestler Ben Askren called out a few overgrown 170-pounders for their continued inability to make weight, namely Thiago Alves and Anthony Johnson.
Here's what the "Funky" one had to say ... and it's not pretty:
"They're just cowards. They should bump up a weight class. What are you scared of fighting guys bigger than you? If you really, truly can't make, say 170, you're gonna be fairly good sized for 185. I mean I walk around anywhere between 183 and 187. And 170, I can make it and it's not that difficult. So yeah, those guys are idiots. I think it's immature and cowardly."
Strong words from the current Bellator welterweight champion.
The issue with those men was brought up when Askren made note of the fact that he would love to make his way to the UFC so he can test himself against the best fighters in the world.
Anthony Johnson would love to welcome him with open arms ... and a kick to the face.
"I'll kick Ben in his mouth quick before he ever try and say something like that in my face," Johnson told KNOXXgear. "I ain't got nothing against the dude, I don't even know him. I just know he's some bushy-headed kid. ... I got respect for the guy because we got that history with wrestling ... but as far as his MMA career, I don't know anything about it. I don't know who all he's fought. I think, will he be good? Yeah, I think he'll be good. Most wrestlers are successful at MMA. More power to him; if that's what he needs to say to get some attention then let him do it. I don't know, who he fight for? Bellator, you said? Okay. That's why."
Equally strong, albeit slightly passive aggressive, words from the UFC welterweight contender.
Both Johnson and Askren have strong wrestling backgrounds with the former achieving a national championship in 2004 at Lassen College and the latter winning his at Missouri in 2006 and 2007.
That shared bond means Johnson has a certain amount of respect for his grappling counterpart ... but that doesn't mean he's not down for a "Rumble" if Askren ever makes his way to the UFC.
Anyone want to see these two hit the Octagon mat and settle their differences?
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Reminds me of High School
People who don't have the patience for the technical aspect of MMA should think about getting into another sport. THIS ONE requires BRAINS.
Right now i hate Belator...
The only thing getting in the way of some good fighters….
And Askren’s forreal – Totally agree with the coward statement
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I can't see Askren losing to Rumble if they fought in the future
If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
I also agree if your ass is struggling to make weight then stop being a bitch and fight people your own size
If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
yeh - it just creates a snowball effect as well
Like im only 160 pounds but if i chose to fight i wouldnt be able to fight at 155 because most of those guys are generally a lot bigger… Once a few start doing it everybody’s doin it and then EVERYONE is dropping weight classes to completely defeat the purpose as to why one might – BECAUSE WHEN EVERYONE’S DOING IT THEY’RE ALL YOUR SIZE, AND ALL THAT HAPPENS IS YOU LOSE YOUR PURSE FOR NOT MAKING WEIGHT….
Same day weigh ins would change the game(i agree with AK’s points on that) but it would also start the change in this sort of crap… we would see people fight at their truer weight classes….
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Agreed 100%
I am still in favor of same day weigh-ins. Fight at your natural weight!
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
yeah, that would be awesome
then we would have even more cardio problems. We may get to see the first fighter go to sleep without getting punched. TKO via exhaustion in the first two minutes of the first round. Sounds fun.
And when they keep losing, we will get fighters in who will fight at their own weight.
Small transition that will weed out the cutters. No problem for me!
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Your ultimate goal would be just as easily reached by renaming the weight classes. Essentially, everyone would move up a weight class.
How would that be the same? People would still be cutting weight to try to gain an advantage.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
dont worry myth im with ya
It’s already been thrashed out and now its the norm to have to cut 25 pounds to be competitive…
With same day weigh ins we are not going to have absolutely exhausted fighters because if they try to cut that much weight in the same day and then put it back on in their usual fashion, this wilkl be a disadvantage to them not an advantage – so yes as myth said they will slowly begin to fight at their own weight classes and the cutters like anth0ony johnson would keep losing to 205ers and we wouldnt see him fight again untill he lifted his game….
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same day weigh ins are the way to go!!
I absolutely hate weight cutting! It really hoes against traditional martial arts that were meant to defend yourselves against whoever. Fight at your natural weight, and then lets see whats up!!
anyone think that the samurai or spartan warriors were like, nah, i cant fight that guy, he is too big? lol FUCK NO, they went to war with whoever was standing in front of them.
Having weight classes is enough….no need for these weight cuts to give fighters added advantages and disadvantages….also when weight cutting goes bad, it can backfire and have negative effects on fighter performances.
Do away with the stupid weight cut. This isnt wrestling,…just have the same day weigh ins!!
As for ASKREN…WELL fuck him!!! uNTIL HE LEARNS TO THROW A PUNCH OR ATTEMPT A SUBMISSION, I dont want to hear a fucking peep out of him! Bushy haired FUCK!!!
Anthony “I forgot how to RUMBLE” Johnson vs. Askren would be the worst display of gay porn ever seen inside of a cage!!!
interesting perspective
I wouldn’t mind that either, really. The weight cutting game is not good for the body either. Definitely takes its toll.
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by i_am_awesome_o on May 11, 2011 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions
askren would school rumble
if rumble thought kosh wrestling was good wait until he fights askren his back will be on the mat within the first 15 seconds and i dont see rumble keeping askren in his guard
Maybe, but he's still a bellator clown, and needs to get his ass over to the UFC to
display this amazing wrestling
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by i_am_awesome_o on May 11, 2011 4:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Plus 4 decisions in a row might
equal a wake up call when he gets to UFC.
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by i_am_awesome_o on May 11, 2011 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions
traditional martial arts that were meant to defend yourselves against whoever. Fight at your natural weight, and then lets see whats up!!
This was done. It was called UFC 1-11. They have them on DVD. You should check it out lol.
Dude... everyones got the DVDs - its just nostalgia
the sport has come a long way and the idea above is to fight at your natural weight – why cant u get that?! Why cant you agree that some fighters cutting 50 lbs is a cheat – and cowardly way to beat up someone who is naturally smaller than you strength wise… get with the program deuce its a farce how much weight some of the guys cut and it just shouldnt be encouraged… by letting these guys do it it is encouraging newer fighters to cut and that HAS to happen to be competitive in this current structure…
do you give a fuck about fighter safety? because a lot of people do and the weight cutting thing does have long term effects on the body
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fuck ben askren is the most annoying douche in mma sans chael sonnen. SHUT THE FUCK UP BEN, YOU SIDESHOW BOB LOOKING ASS HAT
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The only person who could beat Melvin Manhoef in a street fight is Fro-be bryant
by theoregonduck on May 11, 2011 4:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't stand Sskren either.
But he is right.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
i think if you can make the weight go for it, rumble hasn't missed weight since 09 and seems to have finally figured out how to cut the weight without killing himself
and in the case of thiago alves, the dude is too short for middleweight so even though he is huge, welterweight is the only viable option
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by theoregonduck on May 11, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely.
As the rules currently stand, I see no moral reason not to try to gain an advantage. That’s why I’m in favor of same day weigh-ins.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
So Ben Askren reads about Johnson's weight cutting
and thinks he has a problem making weight? he’s gone over twice that I knoe of and the last time was in 09.
I’m tired of Askren already, have fun being a younger version of Nik Lentz.
by FrostyGreenz559 on May 11, 2011 4:04 AM EDT reply actions
Askren's right, Alves and Rumble shouldn't be fighting at 170 if they can't consistently make the weight
And even though Ben’s still very inexperienced and completely reliant on his wrestling he’d beat Rumble, his wrestling credentials are leagues ahead of Rumble’s and Ben’s cardio is a lot better as well. If they fought at this point Ben would easily win a decision and Johnson would bitch about Ben being a lay and pray wrestler, if they fight once Ben has had a few fights and a year or 2 more experience behind him so he’s able to do a lot more damage on the ground to compliment his takedowns and top control he’d stop him in the second.
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LOL serious. 4 decisions as of late
But he did have 3 submissions earlier in his career.
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by i_am_awesome_o on May 11, 2011 4:18 AM EDT up reply actions
ok then!
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by i_am_awesome_o on May 11, 2011 5:13 AM EDT up reply actions
He's trying to break GSP's WW record
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Alves has a good reason
He is 5 foot 9 and his reach is 68 he is really short for middleweight…now johnson on the other hand needs to be a middleweight
by mguillardfan701 on May 11, 2011 4:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No Rumble no
First settle the grudge with howard! I dont know why i want to see that fight that bad. But i think the Johnson/Askren fight would look a lot like Johnson/Koscheck
by robinhorobson on May 11, 2011 4:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
personally i dont care to see rumble, koscheck or askren fight!
Howard is probably the worst out of the fighters that you mentioned, but he is fun to watch
i think Johnson is on the same level as Howard
Only Howard is more entertaining. Both are decent fighters but as soon as they fight a topfighter they lose. And there seem to be some bad blood between the two.
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What do you have against John Howard?
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i also really want to see that fight. they really dont like each other
You guys wanna play knifey spooney?
by liverpoolsnxt on May 11, 2011 6:33 AM EDT up reply actions
i dont think Shields would "outclass" koscheck
I think it would be a competitive fight.
by robinhorobson on May 11, 2011 5:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Based upon how easily GSP landed the over-hand right, Kos has more than a chance.
Hell, I would probably take him if he fought Shields.
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No, I would kind of agree with you here. Would love to see that fight.
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by i_am_awesome_o on May 11, 2011 5:14 AM EDT up reply actions
i am pretty certain that sheilds would win that fight!
Sheilds is a VERY smart fighter. He would time one of Kos wild, idiotic, overhand rights, and take josh down, and thats a wrap!
yea, I think Shields would take him and control the fight.
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by i_am_awesome_o on May 11, 2011 5:26 AM EDT up reply actions
just like he fought a smart fight against GSP, right?
he gave himself 0% chance to win that fight. shields is not a smart fighter.
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Rumble came in 7 lbs overweight against Yoshida I believe, 4 lbs overweight another time. He balloons up to like 200 lbs or more between fights. Askren’s right. nothing wrong with calling out guys who routinely miss weight and not just by a pound, we’re talking several pounds, or something like a 3rd of the weight class, 4 lbs over when the next weight class is only 15 lbs away. or in Rumble’s case 7 lbs over when the next weight class is 15 lbs away. what a joke. this is professional fighting. you agree to a weight on a certain day in order to fight. if you can’t make the weight. and routinely fail to do so…well, then you’re not doing the necessary work to fight in that weight class.
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by theworldsoldestsport on May 11, 2011 10:33 AM EDT reply actions
good points by ben
Alves and Johnson both miss wieght regularily. Im surprized they oth havnt been let go for lack of heart. If your a fighter that cant make wieght your not putting in the work.
NO to same day weigh ins.
All it does is affect fighter’s performance. Doesnt help anyone with shit. And plus why u guys tryin to stop Gleison Tibau from claiming the FW title? Sense a bunch of haters!
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on May 11, 2011 12:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I am all for a small transition period where fighters will figure out that losing a fight wasn’t worth the weight cut.
When their performance sucks, and they lose, next time they won’t cut. It really is that simple.
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this is the problem - it doesnt need to affect the fighters performance...
If they work to that weight their whole camp how can it affect their performance?!
If they dont drastically cut and then gain on the same day how does it affect their performance?!
IT is BETTER for fighters if they do this – yes some will try to cheat and have liver issues – this wil;l be the deterrent – that it would not help anymore!!! Dont you get that?!
I want to see guys who are a similar size fight each other – i want GSP to fight at middleweight because i saw him before his weigh ins at 129 – his lips were so dry – he looked weak. all to make weight and feel strong the next day but what is that doing long term?! And why cant he feel comfortable fighting @ 185 which is more like his natural weight?! Because dickheads who walk around @ 210+ cut to 185 so theres no point! Once a change is made it would pretty much reset the divisions and it needs to happen sooner rather than later!
Sensei Seagal is still the P4P best trainer in MMA today. I was a fool for picking a loser like "Captain Paycheque" Randall Duane Couture. All of his fans are losers just like him, now they need to find a new loser to idolise.
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askren is quite mouth bitch
and a boring fighter also
but i’d like fighters to go to their natural weight classes, that way japanese wouldn’t suffer that much because of physical disadvantage
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