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Dana White: The UFC competes with the NFL, not other fight companies

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What do men with a lot of power want? More power. Or in Dana White's case, global domination.

PRIDE, WEC, Strikeforce; all former competitors to the UFC that were bought, paid for and either absorbed or likely heading in that direction.

But to White, even those fight companies weren't his rivals, at least not in the larger sense. The upstarts now aren't who his organization is competing against. They are, essentially, small potatoes.

That's because the UFC, while most certainly the big leagues of mixed martial arts, doesn't even come close to the level of the major sports leagues in America.

That's the true competition. That and everything else that's even remotely associated with his business. That means pay-per-view buys, television ratings, sponsorship deals ... the whole nine yards.

Why? Because that's how one goes about improving their product. White talked to USA Today and explained that he thrives on competition and that's how he continues to build his company into the monster it is today.

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It's fun. I like the competition. I love it. I (freaking) thrive on it. That's the (crap) that gets me up in the morning. Make no (freaking) mistake about it. I am a competitor and I like to compete. And we do it in lots of things. It's not just other organizations that are out there or other fight companies. It's for pay-per-view numbers. For ratings on television. For sponsorships. For everything. Everything that you do when you own business is you compete. Not to mention the fact that I also feel like we compete against other sports leagues. We look at other sports leagues and say, 'Ok, we can be this big or bigger. How do we do it? How do we get up every day and work and push the envelope and take it to the next level?' It's hilarious to me that when all the media and the fans talk about stuff -- when you guys talk about Strikeforce and Affliction and IFL and all these other guys that were out there. Come on, if that's seriously what you guys think is our (freaking) competition, you guys are (freaking) way out of the loop. Way, way, way, way out of the (freaking) loop. My competition is the NFL. My competition is Major League Baseball. My competition is these other networks. I look much bigger than that."

That's just a small glimpse into the business strategy of those at the helm of what is widely regarded as the fastest growing sport in the world. Go high or go home, folks.

Instead of envisioning a landscape in which the NFL, MLB and the UFC can all survive and thrive right next to each other, White wants to find the ways in which he can crush both.

Just like he did with PRIDE, WEC and Strikeforce.

Obviously, MMA has a long way to go before it can even be mentioned in the same breath as a sports juggernaut like the NFL. As far as television ratings go, no other sport, at least not in the States, comes even close.

But with the labor strife currently facing the league, and the possibility of a lockout canceling next season looming larger and larger every day, there is definitely going to be room to close the gap.

And with a fierce competitor like Dana White manning the ship, don't be surprised if that's exactly what he does.

Look out world ... the UFC is coming.

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I would love for the UFC to be that mainstream.

I do think we have a long way to go before that’s a true possibility though.

Head Thai trainer at Chaos Theory MMA, you haven't heard of us but soon enough you will.
Remember, nothing is out of reach. Develop a plan, work the process, and achieve your goals. Begin, now!

by Silver-Fox on Apr 14, 2011 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

If Dana thinks that he's competing with the NFL anymore than SF was competing with the UFC...

then he’s out of the loop, he’s way out of the (freaking) loop.

"I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious."-Michael Scott

by Diceman on Apr 14, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont know man, from what I hear …. with this lockout possible the UFC will grab lots of attention and when the NFL comes back the UFC will be that much closer. I dont think they will ever surpass it but definitely be some competition

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Apr 14, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The NFL should avoid a lockout at all costs.

From what I remember it took the NBA and the NHL years to regain a good portion of the fans they lost during their respective lockouts. When those lockouts happened there wasn’t a sport like the UFC trying to gain mainstream approval.

Head Thai trainer at Chaos Theory MMA, you haven't heard of us but soon enough you will.
Remember, nothing is out of reach. Develop a plan, work the process, and achieve your goals. Begin, now!

by Silver-Fox on Apr 14, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

im a huge hockey fan

and the NHL still isnt back to where it was…its actually soured me on the sport a little bit…i was so excited when ESPN showed the NCAA national championship, because it was a different brand of hockey, exciting hockey, that i wasnt disappointed in

Like mothafuck all y'all, Mr. Mike Tyson flow, uppercut all y'all, step into my ring bitches, ding ding bitches, click clack pow pow bing bing bitches

by magicmike on Apr 14, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's exactly what I'm talking about.

Head Thai trainer at Chaos Theory MMA, you haven't heard of us but soon enough you will.
Remember, nothing is out of reach. Develop a plan, work the process, and achieve your goals. Begin, now!

by Silver-Fox on Apr 14, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats huge for the UFC to capitalize on. Change fight nights free on sundays and mondays

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Apr 14, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know about down in the states

But the NHL lock out in Canada led to Poker on all the time to take the timeslots and Armageddon on the streets

by xElder on Apr 14, 2011 5:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Which is why UFC should get spike to do shows on sunday mondays. Kick it off with a huge Fight Night card with big names

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Apr 14, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Cause poker cashed in HUGE cause of the NHL lockout. Now poker is still on all the time and there is like 10 different brands of poker on tv ( pokerstars, full tilt, WPT so on nd so on) if NFL is locked out, UFC can really cash in just like the poker world did

by xElder on Apr 14, 2011 5:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Depending on what the contract situation is with Spike there is an opportunity for ESPN coverage as well.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Apr 14, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's possible for the UFC to capture some of the NFL fans, if the lockout actually occurs, which I doubt.

But I believe people are overestimating the crossover. Why wouldn’t all of those fans be watching right now until football season? They’re both very physical sports, but they aren’t really in competition now, I just don’t see how the NFL locking out would create too many new viewers. Obviously I love the sport, but MMA is never going to be as big as some of the other sports. It’s a niche sport. No matter how accepted it becomes, a lot of people aren’t going to want to watch people beat each other up.

One other thing, the NFL isn’t the NBA or the NHL. The NFL is huge here, and lockout or not, people are going to come back to watching football. Like I said, SF was a heck of a lot closer to competing with the UFC than the UFC was with the NFL. The NFL pulls in $6bil a year. Isn’t the UFC as a whole worth like 17% of what the NFL pulls in yearly? I don’t see a legitimate comparison at all.

"I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious."-Michael Scott

by Diceman on Apr 15, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice Oracle quote there Neo

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Apr 14, 2011 3:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

She told me I wasn't "The One."

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
Twitter -- @GenoMrosko

by Geno Mrosko on Apr 14, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Geno isnt the one. Embrace your inner AniMal… he is the

one

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Apr 14, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The inner me. The enamey.

ThE enemy.

Over thinking, over analyzing,
separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition, leaving opportunities behind.

Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line.
Reaching out to embrace the random.
Reaching out to embrace whatever may come.

by d*locc on Apr 14, 2011 4:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Kimbo

I miss him

I disagree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it

by PHISH NATION on Apr 14, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

“You’ve got the talent, but not right in this lifetime.”

Head Thai trainer at Chaos Theory MMA, you haven't heard of us but soon enough you will.
Remember, nothing is out of reach. Develop a plan, work the process, and achieve your goals. Begin, now!

by Silver-Fox on Apr 14, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Football is huge, the numbers they pull for 16 weeks plus the playoffs are hard to compete with.

by PML on Apr 14, 2011 4:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

sure if you are only thinking about america.
 I dont live there and have never watched a game, but dont miss a ufc..

by Simon West on Apr 15, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

What are we going to do today brain? Same thing we do every day pinky…. try to take over the world

by ClinchKing on Apr 14, 2011 4:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

win

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Apr 14, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Biggest fucking sport in the world. The world BNF. The fucking world!

by Deuce02 on Apr 14, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

He really believes that too, which is funny.

by BNF on Apr 14, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dana White=Idiot

Ufc will never be no where near the NFL, Ufc has reached its peak

by antone04 on Apr 14, 2011 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Considering the sport is still growing thats very premature to say

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Apr 14, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

especially since they just purchased the second largest fight promotion in the world

peaked? No way, I think it has just begun!

I disagree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it

by PHISH NATION on Apr 14, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hard to know what the future will hold.

But the entire team sport structure as well as their schedules seems to lend better for marketing and ratings..etc

I don;t think UFC has peaked yet and I do see if becoming pretty big, but not on the level of a NFL, just boxings past glory

by RayRayJr on Apr 14, 2011 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Gotta love Dana's drive

UFC will be huge but it won’t get to the level of NFL, NBA, or MLB. Why? Because in my opinion the leagues just mentioned are “family friendly” and mma is not. You see families with young children at these sporting outings. I have yet to see a fan bring their 5 year old to an mma fight (unless it was their dad fighting). My wife won’t let me watch any mma fights when my 3 yr old daughter is awake. But we watched the SuperBowl together. It’s just not catered to the masses. The demographics on mma is small compared to NFL, NBA, MLB, etc…

by mmachiro on Apr 14, 2011 6:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

This

Is essentially what I was saying above. MMA is a niche sport. No matter how accepted it becomes, a lot of people won’t want to watch guys beating each other up.

"I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious."-Michael Scott

by Diceman on Apr 15, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've been crunching some numbers and trying to make this work. Feel free to correct me or add to it.

Essentially with the Strikeforce merger, there are about 400 fighters now under the Zuffa banner. In a perfect world, every fighter would compete about 3 times a year; every 4 months or so. This leaves about 17/18 weeks in between fights. So that triples the amount of possible “fighters competing per year” from 400 – 1200. Now if we take 52 weeks in the year, add 12 (one PPV card for each month, with the title fights and superstars on it) and the 1200 “fighters” (every fighter will compete 3x per yr) that would be about 18 fighters per week/monthly PPV.

I think with the right sponsors and TV coverage, they could easily pull off 64 or so, 9 fight shows. This would create a year round league and there would always be some kind of MMA on TV.

This is all in a perect world, of course, barring injuries, contract dislutes, and fighters taking personal time off.

What say you, Maniacs?

I think with the right sponsors

losers make excuses, winners make it happen...

by Wingblade on Apr 14, 2011 7:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Scrap that last sentence. Damn iPhone

losers make excuses, winners make it happen...

by Wingblade on Apr 14, 2011 7:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yes!!!!!!!!!!!

I have also done some number crunching before and I came up with something similar. Dana has said in the past that they will be doing 100 shows a year in the near future. Cant wait

by #1 piggy on Apr 14, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

the ufc creates a lot of hype like any popular tv show would that doesn’t mean it’s the “biggest” sport. holy fuck if anything he’s been eliminating competitors to make it a smaller sport.

I am who i is.

by RoBerto. on Apr 14, 2011 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

i wouldn't say it comeptes with the NFL

they don’t even compete with boxing worldwide. and they’re fighters don’t even get paid the amount that boxers do.

by kev_the_problem on Apr 14, 2011 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

The NFL is a team sport

and that makes all of the difference. Team sports hack into our need for tribal warfare. Team sports are to war what porn is to sex. On the other hand, individualized sports like MMA and boxing are all about hierarchies and determining who is the top dog in a tribe. We evolved the fascination with knowing who the top dogs are because not knowing would have cost our ancestors their lives if they misstepped. The UFC does not compete with the NFL. They hack into completely different brain functions, and as we’ve seen through history, the team sports win out when it comes to revenue potential and fan base size.

by Endymion on Apr 15, 2011 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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