Veteran Royce of the Octagon: Gracie finalizing UFC 'Rio' fight for August 27
by Jesse Holland on Apr 13, 2011 10:11 AM EDT
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Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) in Brazil without Royce Gracie?
As if.
The man who started it all has been clamoring for one last fight inside "the house that he built" ever since Zuffa announced its upcoming "Rio" card for August 27 at the HSBC Arena.
Royce wrote his name in the MMA history books by finishing taller, stronger and heavier opponents using the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ) taught by his father and mentor Helio Gracie.
He won three out of four tournaments before continuing his career in Japan -- but prefers to have "one last fight" inside the Octagon.
"It would be the perfect place to do my last fight," Gracie told UOL Esportes (via Bloody Elbow). "I never fought in Rio de Janeiro and I couldn't be more psyched. We are negotiating [the fight deal], but we should have it finalized in two weeks. We only had an initial contact and I don't even have an opponent yet, but we should have that finalized soon ... My weight is the same as it was twenty years ago [80kg], I am still training, keeping the blade sharp. I follow a very strict diet. I never drank, never party, Carnaval, none of that... I'm ready to fight"
The Gracie family was fundamental in solidifying the sport of mixed martial arts. In the old days, members of the Gracie clan challenged athletes from other disciplines to prove the efficiency and superiority of their form.
Rorion Gracie founded the Ultimate Fighting Championship but the organization flourished after Zuffa purchased the struggling promotion and today currently holds events in seven countries outside the United States.
Another Gracie, Renzo, is under contract and could also appear on Aug 27 fight card. Despite both legends being over forty (Royce is 44 and Renzo is 43), they still have appeal and respect from the fans and the UFC will make every effort to put on an attractive show for the South American fans.
Gracie hasn't stepped inside the Octagon since a welterweight loss to Matt Hughes way back at UFC 60 in May 2006. If the grappling guru indeed returns, who would you like to see him fight at 185-pounds?
Another legend? Or someone from the "new school?"
For more on the UFC "Rio" card click here.
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Damian Maia-catch weight of 180lbs is the guess
by Lesnar's striking coach on Apr 13, 2011 10:13 AM EDT reply actions
Shit, let them wear a Gi and just make it a grappling match lol.
Shogun Rua, still only 1 quality win in the UFC and I don't want to hear any garbage excuses about his knee. That is all.
by Edgecrusher71 on Apr 13, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
i was thinking the same thing
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Gracie vs Shamrock?
Who else can Royce beat at this point?
I disagree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it
by PHISH NATION on Apr 13, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL I think he might be in Prison
but he lost to little Royce back in UFC 4 via arm bar. At this point, I would think that Royce would probably just destroy him, considering Royce’s cardio is in another league, by comparison.
People who don't have the patience for the technical aspect of MMA should think about getting into another sport. THIS ONE requires BRAINS.
by i_am_awesome_o on Apr 13, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Who..........
would wanna watch that? Let em fight
by Mr.Randy Watson on Apr 13, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
what would you do if you were Maia?
Would you take that fight? Brazilian fighters tend to not want to fight each other to begin with. Maia knows he would murder Gracie. But would he want to?
Sakuraba, rubber match, no time limit
Saku “The Gracie Hunter” was the first man to beat Royce…..in a 90 minute war that ended with the Gracie family throwing in the towel for the first time ever. I’m sure nothing would make Royce or the Brazillian fans happier than seeing the rubber match of that fight in Brazil.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
kendall groove
he doesn’t have that much power in his hands and the jj would be good. Demian maia is certainly another posibility but don’t brazilians are against fighting brazilians unless is for a title? Palhares is a very, very risky opponent due to superb grappling and good power in his hands, either way good luck to royce
Lets just do it old school and forget weight class.
Royce vs Lesnar! lol or I guess if its old school it would have to be a against a hyped bigger striker. Royce vs Kimbo!
Shogun Rua, still only 1 quality win in the UFC and I don't want to hear any garbage excuses about his knee. That is all.
by Edgecrusher71 on Apr 13, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Since Gracie won't tap and Palhares won't let go that fight would end quickly and brutally
The last thing the UFC needs is for an aging legend to suffer a brutal injury against a guy twice his size and half his age in his homeland.
Personally I don’t think Royce or Renzo should be on any UFC shows, they’re both strictly BJJ guys and have been surpassed by younger, stronger talent in that discipline so what chance do they have in MMA? If this has to happen then have one of them compete against another BJJ guy in a grappling exhibition to please the live crowd (maybe Maia as he’s talented but also has gone on record as saying that he likes to win without hurting his opponent), but don’t televise it or let them fight in a sport that has well and truly passed them by.
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do it really has to be a fight
Can it be like a exhibition match
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by robinhorobson on Apr 13, 2011 10:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Great minds...
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
imo Damian Maia would run through him
I believe it should be another fighter around his size/age.. as close as possible.. in the age department.. and not Matt Hughes.. The UFC young guns at 170/185 even if they are bjj blue belt level.. would be a huge problem for Royce to solve in 2011. I agree with an exhibition match / grappling match.. shit I thought he looked kind of funny without he Gi.. let him wear a Gi.
maias way too slick for him
and, shocking to say this about him, his striking is much better…i think maia has the advantage anywhere that fight goes
Like mothafuck all y'all, Mr. Mike Tyson flow, uppercut all y'all, step into my ring bitches, ding ding bitches, click clack pow pow bing bing bitches
royce vs shamrock would be ideal but would never happen
I heard Frank Trigg really wants another fight
"Legends Match" is the only option
One of the Shamrocks or Sakuraba seem like the most obvious choices…but of course there are problems with that. Zuffa owns Hershel Walker now. Maybe they could go back to the old “Style vs Style” matchup that the sport was originally built on. Hershel is like a 6th degree Black Belt in TKD and a legend from another sport…I think that would be a fun fight.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
He shouldn't step in the cage.
As much as I would love to see him fight again, he would get beat by any fighter who has half decent takedown defense…
And even if his opponent doesn’t have take down defense, most are strong and skilled enough to stay out of submissions.
I’d love to see an exhibition match!
lol
unless they give him a can, Royce is probably going to get crushed.
maybe they should let him wear the gi for old times sake
by cough on Apr 13, 2011 10:27 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
i think for royce, though, it is about winning or losing.
chances are good that will be his last fight ever. does he want to go out on a win or on a loss?
sure, most fans would like to see it win or lose but you also have to consider his safety.
I'm sure nobody minds a win/loss
unless that loss is by destruction.
if he fights anyone who is even halfway relevant, it’s going to be ugly. I hope they have at least a compelling matchup for him
relevance isn't relevant!
If the UFC can bring back Houston Alexander to spoon-feed Kimbo Slice, they could bring back Sakuraba or Shamrock to give the Brazillian fans a dream-match. It would mean loads f free local publicity for the event. And since the fight is in Brazil, they’re not limited to “unified rules”…they can allow Royce is gi or eliminate round breaks or whatever for him.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
Royce Gracie vs Thiago Alves
I have a lot of respect for Royce but his fighting career is over and if he hasnt gotten that in his head yet i think Thiago will be able to smash it in
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by robinhorobson on Apr 13, 2011 10:27 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
thiago is 3 kilos lighter
and he would murder royce without so much as a scramble. You need a match with someone whose striking is weak as fuck… michael bisping!
its to learn Royce a lesson to stop fighting
Or maybe Sakuraba
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by robinhorobson on Apr 13, 2011 10:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
kind of a dick move.
the guy obviously doesn’t have what it takes to compete at the upper echelon of the sport but he wants to. royce has always struck me as a very proud guy. he won’t back down from a fight with anyone simply because of that. i don’t know if he’ll admit it to himself or not, but it’s pretty obvious he’d get murdered by alves.
instead of sending him to his death so he can learn a lesson, you respectfully (?) want him to get “smashed”?
i think thats a) a dick move and b) shows a big lack of respect for an aging pioneer.
like you said he is a proud guy
So we should give him cans so he can maintain proud and keep filling up spots on cards, i rather not.
No let him loose and walk out of the cage being beaten by a better fighter. That’s how you honour a pioneer not by keep feeding him.
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by robinhorobson on Apr 13, 2011 10:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
nobody has kept feeding him.
nobody is pretending like he is untouchable. his one fight with matt hughes showed exactly what would happen if he competed with new school fighters.
fighters usually fight those at their level. you don’t toss an amateur in against GSP simply because he’s a fighter and we need to let him loose. the goal is to set up competitive fights and not a one sided beat down.
“cans” are cans relative to their opponent. A can for Anderson Silva is Scott Smith. But Scott Smith isn’t a can against an amateur fighter with a record of 0-2.
An exhibition fight would be good. or a grappling only fight in the ufc on the undercard. it would be unusual but an exception can be made for someone like gracie.
if you look at my other comments
You can see that i wanted a exhibition or only grappling match. but if he really wants fight dont spare him.
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by robinhorobson on Apr 13, 2011 12:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Should be opening fight of main card.
IMHO.
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Apr 13, 2011 10:33 AM EDT reply actions
Anyone of them would make sense
Basically any grappler who isn’t known for crushing submissions, because he won’t tap and those guys wouldn’t make him snap. Any striker or wrestler would smash him easily and it’d be such a mismatch that it would do the sport a lot of harm and put his health at great risk.
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Feed him Thiago..
I like that fight a lot and I know for a fact that Thiago would get schooled on the ground, no questions asked Gracie is a wizard on the ground. I’ve rolled with Royce first hand and I can tell you right now he’s at his peak, his jits is on a different level and he has a whole new set of submissions ready to unleash on any poor git who decides to fight him. So go ahead and fight him but know that he’s snapping limbs for fun.
I told you kids Rua was gonna run through Jones, but no one listened. The hype train has made its last stop, and the "mighty" Jon Jones has fallen. Shogun tore him up with his muay thai, and dominated in every aspect of the fight. He came in fully prepared and got the job done, like I knew he would. Still the greatest p4p of all time. And STILL UFC LHW Champ, Mauricio Shogun Rua.
wow
Nick Diaz, what more can you say about the guy. He is a such charming, well spoken young athelete with an incredibly bright future. He continues to get better everytime out. He will out strike any striker, out brawl any brawler and out grapple any grappler. Next on the list is to destroy a wrestler and after he beats GSP ass all you haters will just have to STFU and recognize he is the best.
One of these days Dan...
Jesse is going to disable your reply button.
UFC 129. This is how Christmas used to feel when I was six.
by Bigger Zino on Apr 13, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
he can't do that
I told you kids Rua was gonna run through Jones, but no one listened. The hype train has made its last stop, and the "mighty" Jon Jones has fallen. Shogun tore him up with his muay thai, and dominated in every aspect of the fight. He came in fully prepared and got the job done, like I knew he would. Still the greatest p4p of all time. And STILL UFC LHW Champ, Mauricio Shogun Rua.
Funny thing is Royce probably believes he is that good on the ground still
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he's not good if you mean he'd get gnp'd by most opponents.
but in bjj, i’m sure he’s still world class.
im sure
but hes still older and slower…the top BJJ practitioners of today would work him on the mat
Like mothafuck all y'all, Mr. Mike Tyson flow, uppercut all y'all, step into my ring bitches, ding ding bitches, click clack pow pow bing bing bitches
Agreed
Plus Royce’s style of BJJ has been surpassed, him and Renzo would get destroyed by any good BJJ fighter in that discipline today. They’re both way too old and slow to do anything and the sport has evolved since the days of Gracie BJJ.
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Challenge accepted: scarnon will be 2-2 once Machida retires Captain Paycheque
Its a tough move for the ufc
We want to see him win but against a high level fighter but that wont be the case as he cant hang with the big dogs.
by couldn't get me old name on Apr 13, 2011 10:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Feed me to him!!!
You want to give a shout out to the old UFCs? You want to ensure Royce a win? Give me to him! Almost 6 foot, 300 pounds, tattoos, and I used to be a bouncer so that means I have a over 300 street fights to my name!!! (Toungue in cheek joke about my record, fuckers) Hell, I’ll even grow a mohawk just to make myself look more dangerous.
by Jon Estrada Sr. on Apr 13, 2011 10:56 AM EDT reply actions
I never drank, never party, Carnaval, none of that...
What’s “Carnaval”?
It's all about the entertainment.
it's a nationwide festival
i believe its roots are religious (could be wrong) but it’s turned into something like a mardi gras.
debauchery all over the place. naked women everywhere… dancing in the streets… i hear its crazy. the whole nation typically shuts down at that time. in my work, i have to deal with some brazilian companies and it’s hard to get a hold of them during that time of the year.
if you’re young and can afford it, it would be a great time and place to have some fun!
Are you serious, you dont know what Carnival is?
Carnival is a giant party/festival usually held sometime before lent. A lot of different countries have them but Brazil’s is known for one of the best. The one held in Rio is the biggest in the world. It’s like Madi Gras’ in New Orleans. The Guiness Book of Worls Records has the Carnival held in Rio as the biggest party in the world.
I'd be surprised if this even happens
All the talk is coming from the Gracie end, Dana hasn’t said a word.
Sean Salmon's Flying Crane Kick.
the UFC seems to be open to the idea though
since he was invited to the Rio Press Conference and he appeared in the short promo they made for UFC Rio.
Kickin’ in the front seat, Sittin’ in the back seat
Gotta make my mind up which seat can I take?
YAWN!
honestly, the thought of watching this old man fight on the main card, rather than seeing a more worthy fight on the main card, kinda pisses me off.
screw it, have him fight Tim Sylvia. His bread and butter was fighting guys who outweighed him. If the UFC puts him up against ANY MW that’s, say, Top 30 in the UFC, Gracie is going to get his ass handed to him.
No more sideshows!
YAWN! honestly, the thought of watching this old man fight on the main card, rather than seeing a more worthy fight on the main card, kinda pisses me off.
screw it, have him fight Tim Sylvia AGAIN. His bread and butter was fighting guys who outweighed him. If the UFC puts him up against ANY LHW that’s, say, Top 30 in the UFC, Gracie Randy is going to get his ass handed to him.
No more sideshows!
Fixed.
:)
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
Haha well at least Randy is still somewhat competitive
We all know what happened the last time Royce fought in the UFC, if Hughes wanted to he’d have broken Royce’s arm on live PPV. 5 years later and Royce is older and still wanting to compete in a sport that has long since moved on from the days in which he was dominant. No good can come out of a Gracie fight in Rio, the only Gracie that deserves to be on that card is Roger.
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Challenge accepted: scarnon will be 2-2 once Machida retires Captain Paycheque
Dude you say Royce does not “deserve” to be on this card…..the man who started this whole thing, the man who’s family is behind starting the UFC…..a guy who won 3 of the 4 tournaments? I hope you just misused the word “deserve” because if anyone deserves to fight on this card it’s Royce Gracie. You could of said due to his skill not being up to par or something but deserving and making a fight competitive are two different things entirely…..he for sure deserve to fight in Rio.
no he doesn't
there are DOZENS of fighters who would kick the crap out of Royce Gracie today, many of them Brazilian. Putting Royce on the card means you have to find some nitwit who Royce can be competitive against. That means TWO spots are taken, which otherwise would go to WORTHY UFC contenders. Given that they’re the top athletes in the sport, don’t they DESERVE to be on the card? I’ll answer for you. Yes, Adam, yes, they do deserve to be on the card, a helluva lot more than Royce does.
Look, no one is trying to take away what Royce did for the UFC. That’s why they put him in the Hall of Fame. He deserved HoF. But to say he deserves a spot on THIS card ignores the fact that, as a fighter, Royce is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.
run and tell that.
He and his family started this whole thing called the UFC…nuff said. You young whipper snappers got no respect about you for the old school, for those that have brought the sport to where it is. Oh waaaah…..he’s going to keep me from seeing one of my TUF heros like Johnathon Brookings or Mac Danzig…..waaaaah! He deserves a spot on this card and I do not give two shits what you or any other new schooler johnny come lately has to say about it…..how you like them apples? Take that take that……does Puffy dance on the way out of thread
Ken Shamrock was a UFC pioneer who did well in those early tournaments
He doesn’t deserve to be on any UFC show either. Royce’s time has passed him by, he proved that he doesn’t belong in modern day MMA when he got destroyed by Hughes and he hasn’t fought since beating Sakaraba (another once great fighter who shouldn’t still be fighting) and testing positive for roids. Just because his brother used the UFC to showcase the family martial art and let Royce compete against a bunch of jokers to con the public into going to Gracie Jiu Jitsu classes because it was the “ultimate” martial art in the days when the sport was nothing more than a lawless sideshow does not mean that he deserves a spot on a major UFC PPV card. There are so many great Brazilian fighters today and it would be a travesty if they missed out on a spot on this show because an old man wants one last fight in a sport that has long since passed him by and the promotion wants to cash in one final time on his family name and legacy.
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Challenge accepted: scarnon will be 2-2 once Machida retires Captain Paycheque
I agree
it’s nice to have him be part of UFC Rio and all… but Yawn.
UFC 129. This is how Christmas used to feel when I was six.
by Bigger Zino on Apr 13, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly.
that’s why i think he should be on the undercard. this way, he’ll given his local countrymen a show but it just won’t be televised.
perhaps even make it an exhibition or grappling only fight. i’d want to see that.
i guess i don't mind having him on the undercard
but honestly, i have no interest in seeing him fight at all. if i want to see Royce fight, i have all those early UFC fights on DVD.
Royce vs. Jon Jones!!!!
In a grappling match!
by Jon Estrada Sr. on Apr 13, 2011 11:29 AM EDT reply actions
I think Royce vs Dustin H would of been a excellent fight….not a ton of danger for Gracie but DH is no longer employed by Zuffa. I would shit myself if uncle Dana and the UFC did what was right and what the fans wanted……bring in Sakuraba for this one fight. It would be the one real treat for the hardcore fans that have been following UFC all these years. Please make that happen. Someone needs to twitter bomb DW and the UFC or something.
im okay with that.
UFC 129. This is how Christmas used to feel when I was six.
by Bigger Zino on Apr 13, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
on the under card
UFC 129. This is how Christmas used to feel when I was six.
by Bigger Zino on Apr 13, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
no way
royce wouldnt let the UFC put him on the undercard…i dont think dana would do it either, though
Like mothafuck all y'all, Mr. Mike Tyson flow, uppercut all y'all, step into my ring bitches, ding ding bitches, click clack pow pow bing bing bitches
not a bad idea man…….i think Pat takes it easily but I would like to see Royce against a old timer like that.
I thot pat was banned from the ufc.
Over thinking, over analyzing,
separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition, leaving opportunities behind.
Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line.
Reaching out to embrace the random.
Reaching out to embrace whatever may come.
by d*locc on Apr 13, 2011 11:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
DW/PM
I read somewhere they buried the hatchet with the aquisition of StrikeForce. Militech has also been kinda hinting at the possibility of fighting again at some point. Said he only wants names though. Could be him.
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War Miller Bros.
by Jay Bittner on Apr 13, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
They made up a few years back
And as great as those 2 once were if that fight was set up for a UFC PPV in 2011 it would make me sick. Having 2 semi-retired fighters face each other on a supposed supershow would make the sport a laughing stock and would be a waste of a fight that could go to 2 far more talented and relevant young fighters who need the money more than Pat and Royce.
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Challenge accepted: scarnon will be 2-2 once Machida retires Captain Paycheque
Royce vs. Emanuel yarborough !
Fuck it . They wana bring back the old school guys =D
Over thinking, over analyzing,
separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition, leaving opportunities behind.
Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line.
Reaching out to embrace the random.
Reaching out to embrace whatever may come.
by d*locc on Apr 13, 2011 11:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Is that..............
that fatass fat Albert?
by Mr.Randy Watson on Apr 13, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol. That be him.
I seen Royce submit a bigger guy than that fool.
Over thinking, over analyzing,
separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition, leaving opportunities behind.
Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line.
Reaching out to embrace the random.
Reaching out to embrace whatever may come.
by d*locc on Apr 13, 2011 1:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
www.youtube.com/watch?v=POJ2T023M4I
Over thinking, over analyzing,
separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition, leaving opportunities behind.
Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line.
Reaching out to embrace the random.
Reaching out to embrace whatever may come.
by d*locc on Apr 13, 2011 1:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
bring back....
Dustin Hazelett!! Perfect.
by bloody_cage_junkie on Apr 13, 2011 11:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think the fight that makes most sense and would be competitive for Royce is a fight with renzo a Gracie va Gracie match!
Jones vs Shogun is gonna be one of the best fights eva!
by ChinoUFAF on Apr 13, 2011 11:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think the fight that makes most sense and would be competitive for Royce is a fight with renzo a Gracie va Gracie match!
Jones vs Shogun is gonna be one of the best fights eva!
by ChinoUFAF on Apr 13, 2011 11:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Would be cool… except that would never happen. Unless you wanted an inner family riot
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Apr 13, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I enjoyed Royce’s fights in the early days, but I have no interest in seeing him fight now.
I wish these older fighter would stick to instructing or running a gym. Something like that.
When I pay money for an event I don’t want to see faded fighters that are in the sunset of their careers.
I’d rather see some legitimate contenders and prospects.
Most people don't know what they're doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.
Its ok if they are on the undercard and make the televised portion of the show.
by The Masked Marauder on Apr 13, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
That wouldn’t be a problem.
I was thinking the UFC should do a Fight Night featuring all the older fan favorites.
Most people don't know what they're doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.
Is there enough to make a card?
by The Masked Marauder on Apr 13, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know.
Who is still competing from the old UFC days? Maybe some could get back into action.
Royce
Frye
Shamrock (Ken)
Tank Abbot
Coleman
Pat M.
Maybe bring back the Iceman.
Dan “The Beast”
Oh man…I don’t even know.
Most people don't know what they're doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.
Met Royce at an amateur show I attended in Missouri one time. He was very generous and really cool to talk to. He, Tonya Harding, and tommy morrison (I belive it was him) were the special guests. Turns out Royce loves to go bore hunt. The fight promoter took he and Tonya Harding bore hunting that morning. Would have loved to see that.
Side note: I dont care who you are, you cant out drink Tonya Harding (personal experience)
by The Masked Marauder on Apr 13, 2011 12:21 PM EDT reply actions
ROYCE VS.....
Pat Smith-
Ken Shammy-
Carlos Newton
Frank Shammy-
Pat Miletich-
Kimo
Severn, Frye, Coleman, Kerr
Ruas or Hopefully Sakuraba….Only guys he has a chance against and can be a good draw with the fans
Not Sakuraba. I love the both the guys but their last fight was really hard to watch. Very slow. If Saku gets any more bandages on him he will be mummified
by The Masked Marauder on Apr 13, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
carlos newton sounds interesting
never thought of that
Like mothafuck all y'all, Mr. Mike Tyson flow, uppercut all y'all, step into my ring bitches, ding ding bitches, click clack pow pow bing bing bitches
gus johnsons training bjj now
throw him in there with royce, lets see if he can hang lol
Like mothafuck all y'all, Mr. Mike Tyson flow, uppercut all y'all, step into my ring bitches, ding ding bitches, click clack pow pow bing bing bitches
I can't beieive non of you have called it yet. it makes so much sense to me. Royce vs....
If you spell Ndamukong Suh in Scrabble, you win. Forever...
by DetroitDrew1980 on Apr 13, 2011 2:26 PM EDT reply actions
Great idea but he would lose to BJ ur talking about an old skool veteran against a top fighter of today. Royce is the reason the UFC is where it is today (well one of the reasons) and since he’s family started it all and he revolutionized Martial Arts in the early days of the UFC. I say let him fight in UFC Rio bc it would be very symbolic especially to Royce, not to mention every Brazilian fighter would like to be on the Card. From a fighting and enterteiment point of view Royce versus a mid-caliber fighter makes sense because i think he could hold his own but at what weight is he fighting, 170, 185 or catch weight? I think Royce and Carlos Newton makes sense or maybe bring back Shonie Carter. They can also set up Renzo Gracie vs. Matt Brown
"You know 1,000 techniques but you suck at all of them"--Carlson Gracie
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