Dan Hardy will NOT be released by the UFC and will be given at least one more fight with the promotion, according to a report from Fighters Only, which possibly puts him one step closer to that "old school shootout" with Chris Lytle.
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thats cool i like hardy
fitch must of tore his knee or something, the fight is in july that a while away to recover unless your a pussy or a knee is torn or something
i thought BJ was never to fight in vegas since gsp greased himself up
if sheilds loses then gsp is should stay ay WW since he reminds everyone of fitch
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i DONT GET QUITE WHY YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT FITCH – has nothing to do with Hardy but, If he does have an injury and has withdrawen yes it is a bit of time away but if he needs recovery time now, what is he going to do?! Shorten his camp against one of the biggest names in MMA – i think not
He’s not a pussy and it could be a fairly mild injury that hinders his training and he is smart enough to know he will not be 100% which we know fighters have to be on entering the cage
if sheilds loses then gsp is should stay ay WW since he reminds everyone of fitch
And i really dont understand what you mean by this statement?! untill he reminds everyonew of fitch?! what does that mean?!
And then with the BJ vs GSP greasing incident – Why would BJ not fight in vegas again? do you mean by choice? The NSAC did nothing about it anyway, besides it was just a bit of Vaso that MIGHT have got on his back – no excuse…
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dick head dont have a clue what hes talkin bout lol
by Dom James Walder on Apr 1, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
You drunk…?
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by robinhorobson on Apr 1, 2011 5:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
good question
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I believe it was his shoulder
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by doonerthesooner on Apr 1, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Tired
Tired of the Dan Hardy talk, I see Lytle subing him.
Long live the dragon!!!
by Octagon Brilliance on Apr 1, 2011 1:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
If Lytle fights the way he did his last fight
he wouldn’t be able to submit a 70 year quadriplegic.
Still think Jones is all hype? All aboard the JBJ train - nonbelievers prior to 126 are not welcome.
by hairybumcrack on Apr 1, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Dont throw him lytle
throw him a up n comer he can most likely beat. not someone like lytle where it could go either way (prob towards lytle). plus hardys comin of of 3 losses and lytles only of 1.
Hardy likes to block punches with his face if he fights lytle I think he will get knocked out again.
by Bobby D on Apr 1, 2011 1:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Lytle isnt really known for punching power
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by doonerthesooner on Apr 1, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
He does wing 'em though.
When you throw your punches like your pitching a fastball, anyone can do damage.
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Despite all of these clamors by fans here I think a Chris Lytle fight would benefit Hardy
If this is his do or die match-up, why put him against a new comer? Chris Lytle was never in a dull fight and his experience, skill level and competitive spirit would be the perfect matchup for Hardy. If Hardy cannot hang with Chris Lytle, then he has no business to be in the UFC. Besides, who would not want to see a slug fest that a Hardy-Lytle is guaranteed to deliver?
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wow... we agree on something phase :p
I reckon Hardy’s got it though after seeing him gas against Ebersole in the flesh!!!
Who the fuck would bet against Jones?!
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Hahahhaha..I never question your MMA knowledge my friend but I just want to prove you’re fallible in your picks. :)
Hardy should get this..This is like 2 seconds left in regulation and he has the ball while in the three point line. Make or break. He flunks it, he will probably fight danago in smaller shows in Uzbekistan.
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Mate Danago is fighting in senegal now didnt you hear...
have you seen that shit?!
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well Lytle
Did came back from a secret surgery, so it wasnt that weird now seeing him not in shape
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by robinhorobson on Apr 1, 2011 5:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hell, he might even lose!
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by daniel worby on Apr 1, 2011 3:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
bloody hell looks like the weekenders have arrived a day early
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by Rampagelangford on Apr 1, 2011 3:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
i know right
I see a lot of “not well thought out about” post
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by robinhorobson on Apr 1, 2011 5:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He should be cut.
If not cut then everybody should be given the same opportunity. You do not hear Mark Hunt bitching about being given opponents with a ground game, they did not even cater for his stand up in his debut, which surprised me. He took his losses like a fighter should, and just got on with it. Hardy talks so braggs and boasts and talks so much shit beforehand, and then when he loses, he bitches, whines and moans, gives no credit to his opponent, and blames his weaknesses and lack of MMA skills on them. I’m tired of his excuses and his one dimensional style, that needs an opponent to stand still in front of him and do absolutely nothing, for it to be effective.
by Ade on Apr 1, 2011 5:11 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Very well put.
Couldnt have said it better. I guess if you trash talk, stand and bang with minimal power and get exposed time and again for lacking grappling skills, you wont ever get cut. What a precedent to set, all guys have to do is talk that “let’s have a war, get FOTN” shit and say give him fighters who’ll do that aka strikers that wont expose them.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Apr 1, 2011 9:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep
I hate that crap. Calling out the guy that just BEAT you cause he didn’t want to “Stand and bang” with you. Dan Hardy after most fights, “I thought the bloke said he wanted a bloody fight, I guess he came here to wrestle” I’m paraphrasing of course, but that seems to be his m.o.
I was a Hardy hater that had been won over (somewhat) but this stuff drives me nuts. Learn the bloody art of UFC already (everyone knows MMA is code for the “other guys”)
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agreed no one wants to do that sissy wrestling mma stuff.
UFC all the way!
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Apr 1, 2011 9:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Considering he is Britain's 2nd most marketed fighter, he gets a pass
Why do you think Bisping gets the kid gloves treatment? IF he actually fought top contenders, he would lose 3 in a row as well and teh UFC would not have a single British fighter with even an outside shot at a championship fight for the next 2 or 3 years.
True
I’m ok with the UFC keeping him around a bit, I just tire of the same ole song about guys not wanting to stand with Hardy. Yes, I love watching fights where two guys are slinging leather, but Hardy’s gotta work on a take-down defense for cryin out loud
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I am ok with only matching him up with stand-up fighters
It is obvious that he will never get back to a shot at the title, so relegate him to fight night cards against up and coming stand-up fighters and let him be what he really is…a gatekeeper.
done
And that’s how we handle things.
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Am I the only one that could see Dan beating Lytle?
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want him to, but I could just see him picking Chris apart with jabs and dancing around for 3 rounds; there’s no way in hell he’d stand in the pocket and wing punches with Lytle like he says he will – he’s not that retarded.
Also, even though Lytle can take Dan and sub him (very easily to boot) I don’t think he would – when Lytle says he’s gonna stand and bang, he stands and bangs.
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez
couldnt sub ebersole wont sub hardy...
did you see what gsp tried on him?!
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Yes and did you see danaher explaining to GSP
backstage exactly what he screwed up when trying to finish the subs? Yes it was probably extremely painful but had gsp done the armbar correct, the elbow or shoulder would have blown. Lytle would slap that inverted triangle/kimura combo he likes so fast….
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Apr 1, 2011 9:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lytle has a better submission game than GSP as far as MMA goes IMO
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i like this matchup
Both are pretty far from a title shot, so it’s just a fight pure for the fans (maybe for Hardy a bit more) Lytle always brings it (atleast i hope he is recovered from his surgery) and Hardy will be fighting to stay in the UFC.
I don’t think Hardy should be cut he lost three in a row but one of those was a title shot, he deserves one more chance (same goes for machida if he loses to Randy)
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by robinhorobson on Apr 1, 2011 5:47 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I doubt they'll cut Machida. He was the No.1 LHW in the World only a year or so ago, and he has that unique style that is so fascinating to watch. He's one-of-a-kind; the UFC ain't letting that go.
And I don’t put much stuck in the whole “3 losses and you’re out” thing. Dana’s not an idiot. If he sees star-potential in a fighter, or if a guy brings it in every single fight, win or lose (i.e, Lytle), they’ll have a job.
Lytle’s hardly the most consistent guy out there; hell, he’s got a losing record in the UFC. But he brings it in every single fight. Lytle will never be cut by the UFC, unless he suddenly decides to drastically change his style to L’n’P overnight.
Likewise with Hardy – sure the guy lost his last 3 fights, but when he’s not being layed on top of or KO’d quickly, he generally puts on a good show. Plus, he’s markatable and knows how to talk a good game, so he’s good for the fans, and he also bring in the general UK fans.
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez
i dont know
I think machida has a high chance of getting cut, dana said he didn’t cut hardy or joe is because he likes them a lot and him and machida bump head a little so… I don’t know
by mguillardfan701 on Apr 1, 2011 6:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i highly doubt it
He is coming of a title defense loss and a split decision. But i think now that Zuffa bought SF Dana might be more lenient to cut people
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by robinhorobson on Apr 1, 2011 6:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you are absolutely right
It’s just about how much Dana/the fans likes(are willing to pay for) you. Did Dana cut Joe Stevenson ? He said the same thing after the Danzig fight that he wouldnt cut Stevenson because he went after Danzig guns blazing and just got caught in the process
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by robinhorobson on Apr 1, 2011 6:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hardy gameplan against Lytle
Take him down! Just like BJ surprised Fitch. Lytle will not spend one minute of his camp on takedown defense. Hardy can steal rounds with takedowns. Of course that means he will actually have to move to the US, train with Fitch & Kos at AKA. On the feet it’s an even match. Standup up straight wanting to brawl will only get him put on his back. Push Lytle to the cage and take him down!
by MusicCityBeatdown on Apr 1, 2011 7:48 AM EDT reply actions
Lytle tools Hardy on the floor.
Absolutely no question about it. The mat is where Lytle would excel against Hardy.
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez
Thing is, there's the usual "one-dimensional" hate and criticism's of Hardy...
Yet those very people are probably the ones bigging up Junior Dos Santos – a, so far, entirely stand-up fighter. He may have a ground game but we don’t know as he hasn’t faced a wrestler in his entire UFC run yet (and they say the Brits get favouritism – he had Werdum but as a Jits guy he doesn’t do good takedowns) – Brock may be interesting but as long as Dos Santos can get the first attacks in that shouldn’t be a problem.
If anyone saw the Barboza vs Njokuani fight on the undercard of UFC 128 that shows what a great technical battle can be had by class stand-up guys, far more interesting than the two main events on that card too.
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Werdum didnt have a chance to try and take him down
he was blasted long before Werdum even thought of a takedown. and big country also couldnt get him down, and Dos Santos rocked his world
difference in Hardy and Dos Santos….Dos Santos has been KOn people since he got to the UFC! Legitmate knockouts of some tough guys, hence why he is billed as a KO artist. His stand up is a legit threat and he will knock you senseless.
Hardy has 1 KO since being in the UFC, couple split decisions and 3 losses! yet he is billed as this crazy power puncher!
so no, Hardy and Dos Santos arent even close
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Power-wise no, but one-dimensionally - yes.
I’ve said it many times on here that wrestlers aren’t criticised for being one-dimensional, doesn’t seem Dos Santos is either, actually nor is Machida or Silva… Seems it’s just the Brits that get all the hate whatever the reason really.
"Matt Serra has unwittingly changed the face of MMA forever, with his KO of GSP he heralded the "Safe Win" era and all are starting to jump on that bandwagon. Good for them, bad for the majority of us brain-dead fans who don’t appreciate the intricacies of man laying on man action." - Jimrod 3/27/11 (Post Johnson/Hardy "Fight").
Machida?
machida is very well rounded. It is extremly difficult to take him down. If Daley or Hardy has his TDD then they would be doing alot better
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and do you mean Anderson silva?
the striking phenom who submits people on a regular basis?
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Well, taking Bisping as an example -
When was the last time anyone gave him props for a win? It’s always excuses about his opponent or nowadays that he’s a cheat, he’s actually beaten plenty of decent fighters and his losses were only to top guys (and Rashad was a close one at 205lbs). Daley has been on a good winning streak but the only thing people pipe up about is his weight cutting. You see what I’m getting at?
Anyway, it doesn’t matter. I hope all matches end up as lay’n’pray snoozefests from now on… Then all you forum people will be overjoyed since Fitch, Kos and friends are rarely ever criticized.
"Matt Serra has unwittingly changed the face of MMA forever, with his KO of GSP he heralded the "Safe Win" era and all are starting to jump on that bandwagon. Good for them, bad for the majority of us brain-dead fans who don’t appreciate the intricacies of man laying on man action." - Jimrod 3/27/11 (Post Johnson/Hardy "Fight").
Bisbing…..has never beaten a good fighter.
he’s actually beaten plenty of decent fighters and his losses were only to top guys
he has never been given a top fighter that he hasnt lost to
hes beaten plenty of B fighter, no top guys at all.
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Bispings win over Akiyama was good.
And I love watching Jon Fitch maul people for 15 minutes. Fraggle Rock is annoying and while he can fight I’m not a fan.
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by doonerthesooner on Apr 1, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you read this site? Honestly? I have read more Fitch/Shields/Kos hate in the last 3 months than I EVER have on this site.
You are pissed off at the fact that every one bashes your fighters, and you have Nationalistic Pride for them. While that is all well and good, I commend you for rooting for guys from your homecountry, it doesn’t change the fact that the UFC marketed these guys (Hardy and Ping) as actual contenders, when in fact, they are nothing more than average fighters that will never win gold, and should never have fought for the belt in the first place.
That is why people hate them. Dana White told us that Hardy could KO people when in fact he has only done it once in the UFC. They continue to market this guy like has dynamite in his hands. He doesn’t. He should
Ping is a good fighter I would say he's much better than average.
Yes on Hardy, I’ve been saying the same thing for years.
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by doonerthesooner on Apr 1, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
True about the hype, I'm not a fan of that either and cringe when UK fighters are made out to be the next champ etc...
I also think the same if I see CNN going on about the fucking Royal Wedding – 95% of Brits couldn’t give a shit about it and are actually pissed our taxes are being wasted on it – fortunately we get a day off so it’s not as bad :)
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Not the point
If a "banger"gets beat by a wrestler, then proceeds to complain about not getting the chance to “bang” because he spent most of the fight on his arse, then yeah, he deserves the appropriate “hate”.
I’d say the same for two known jits guys that keep talking about how they are gonna sub the other, then one dude happens to show up with a decent striking strategy.
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haha man i said the exact same thing yesterday!
imagine Maia fought Hardy….and Maia said he was gonna sub hardy, and his gameplan was to get it down to the mat….then comes out a starts throwing punches at Hardy….Hardy would step back and say “what the fuck mate! you said you were gonna sub me! fuck off punching me!!”
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I don't mind wrestlers. I don't mind Ju Jitsu guys. I do mind fighters who don't show up to "fight".
Holding someone down for a safe win is getting ever more common. Ground n pound risks submissions so people now lie with an occasional weak punch to avoid being stood up. That’s what I’ve got a problem with and many MMA fans seem to love it for some unknown reason – do you get off on watching people sleep? It’s pretty much the same thing. Dana know’s this too and that’s why Hardy is getting another shot, win or lose he tries to fight, even if he can’t avoid the hugger crew. His fight against Condit he lost but everyone found it enjoyable – it’s the kind of fight people pay to watch – like Hendo Bisping, didn’t see anyone complaining about the dull stand-up there did you? It’s the entertainment industry and people lying on each other and throwing no subs/strikes is dull as dishwater unless we’re talking porn.
"Matt Serra has unwittingly changed the face of MMA forever, with his KO of GSP he heralded the "Safe Win" era and all are starting to jump on that bandwagon. Good for them, bad for the majority of us brain-dead fans who don’t appreciate the intricacies of man laying on man action." - Jimrod 3/27/11 (Post Johnson/Hardy "Fight").
Very few fighters actually just lay on there opponent on a regular basis.
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by doonerthesooner on Apr 1, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
It's relative of course, but when I say that I mean they aren't trying to finish their opponent.
Fitches ground patter is never going to KO anyone but he’s not throwing bombs or sub attempts as it would leave him open – this is the safety style. Very few like to watch it. Johnson did similar to Hardy, he wasn’t trying his best to win, he was trying his hardest not to lose, he could probably have finished Hardy with proper ground n pound or even in the stand up if he’d wanted to.
As much as anyone disagree’s it is an entertainment sport and Dana likes to reward entertaining fighters even if they lose, he will kick the dull guys (as he’s done before) very quickly if he gets the opportunity – hence so many making sure they do their best not to lose, rather than go all out for the win. This isn’t what the UFC was brought into existence for really was it?
"Matt Serra has unwittingly changed the face of MMA forever, with his KO of GSP he heralded the "Safe Win" era and all are starting to jump on that bandwagon. Good for them, bad for the majority of us brain-dead fans who don’t appreciate the intricacies of man laying on man action." - Jimrod 3/27/11 (Post Johnson/Hardy "Fight").
Johnson seemed like he was trying to finish Hardy.
Those head kicks were kisses.
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by doonerthesooner on Apr 1, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I only remember the one head kick at the start.
But that sent him into hug mode rather than finish mode for some reason – Hardy didn’t seem like he was going to be a challenge on the feet but he opted to play safe. I often hear Dana say “I fucking love this guy” after someone has held someone on the floor for three rounds.
I’d be ok with laying down if more offence was allowed but the rules help wrestlers, in the prelims for UFC 128 in the Barboza fight he took the other guy down and held him against the cage – the other guy was going to elbow him in the back of the neck then remembered he wasn’t allowed so had to stop. Luckily that was a great fight :)
"Matt Serra has unwittingly changed the face of MMA forever, with his KO of GSP he heralded the "Safe Win" era and all are starting to jump on that bandwagon. Good for them, bad for the majority of us brain-dead fans who don’t appreciate the intricacies of man laying on man action." - Jimrod 3/27/11 (Post Johnson/Hardy "Fight").
Please give us examples and back this up with actual facts
and when you realize that there are none, please go watch K-1, instead of MMA. Seems more your style. (not being a dick, being truthful)
I watch K1, I watch most combat sports.
I made two examples above of what I mean. I’m not saying the guy on top doesn’t do anything at all – they do enough not to get stood up.
"Matt Serra has unwittingly changed the face of MMA forever, with his KO of GSP he heralded the "Safe Win" era and all are starting to jump on that bandwagon. Good for them, bad for the majority of us brain-dead fans who don’t appreciate the intricacies of man laying on man action." - Jimrod 3/27/11 (Post Johnson/Hardy "Fight").
i think you are upset that your British guys have 0 ground games and lose fights because they suck on the ground, and are unable to keep the fight from going there
your sig proves this theory.
KG12 is the E.F. Hutton of Mania……when he talks, people should listen. For now, I humbly take my place as the latest victim of the undefeated wrecking machine that is KG12…………….Welcome to the Bones era!!!!!
No, I'm fine with the British guys getting beat on the ground. I'd love for them to get subbed or KO'd on the ground.
But how often does that happen? When were Bisping, Daley or Hardy last subbed/KO’d on the mat? It’s a very long time ago, people play safe, my sig does prove that. I’m not lying or trying to be an intellectual high-brow fan – I fucking hate dull fights. There are dull stand-up fights too but no-one seems to make that their career decision like someone like Fitch does.
Tell me, did you enjoy that Lentz/Winner fight? The Hardy/Johnson fight? Koscheck Sanchez/Daley? Most Fitch fights? Is so, great, you have a higher tolerance for boredom than I do, but then I have internet and porn so I’d rather watch that then two men dry hump.
"Matt Serra has unwittingly changed the face of MMA forever, with his KO of GSP he heralded the "Safe Win" era and all are starting to jump on that bandwagon. Good for them, bad for the majority of us brain-dead fans who don’t appreciate the intricacies of man laying on man action." - Jimrod 3/27/11 (Post Johnson/Hardy "Fight").
I have internet and porn
i have a girlfriend who lets me touch her. Im sorry you only have the internet
KG12 is the E.F. Hutton of Mania……when he talks, people should listen. For now, I humbly take my place as the latest victim of the undefeated wrecking machine that is KG12…………….Welcome to the Bones era!!!!!
Yeah, unfortunately mine is normally asleep when I'm watching UFC.
I’m in the UK so I think I wouldn’t be getting any if I kept waking her up at 3am+ every time a dull fight came on…
"Matt Serra has unwittingly changed the face of MMA forever, with his KO of GSP he heralded the "Safe Win" era and all are starting to jump on that bandwagon. Good for them, bad for the majority of us brain-dead fans who don’t appreciate the intricacies of man laying on man action." - Jimrod 3/27/11 (Post Johnson/Hardy "Fight").
haha!
thatd be sick though “girl this fight is boring, at least come suck me off while i watch”
KG12 is the E.F. Hutton of Mania……when he talks, people should listen. For now, I humbly take my place as the latest victim of the undefeated wrecking machine that is KG12…………….Welcome to the Bones era!!!!!
Yeah, I need a new, sluttier girlfriend :D
"Matt Serra has unwittingly changed the face of MMA forever, with his KO of GSP he heralded the "Safe Win" era and all are starting to jump on that bandwagon. Good for them, bad for the majority of us brain-dead fans who don’t appreciate the intricacies of man laying on man action." - Jimrod 3/27/11 (Post Johnson/Hardy "Fight").
Well
My wife loves watching the fights with me, so I’m all good
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
mine always watches with me too.
KG12 is the E.F. Hutton of Mania……when he talks, people should listen. For now, I humbly take my place as the latest victim of the undefeated wrecking machine that is KG12…………….Welcome to the Bones era!!!!!
How about Nick Lentz vs Andre winner for one?
Nick didn’t want to get involved in the stand up so humped Winner’s leg for 3 rounds. What can you do? Can’t hit a “downed opponent” can you. Show a card of fights like that and see how many are still watching by the end.
"Matt Serra has unwittingly changed the face of MMA forever, with his KO of GSP he heralded the "Safe Win" era and all are starting to jump on that bandwagon. Good for them, bad for the majority of us brain-dead fans who don’t appreciate the intricacies of man laying on man action." - Jimrod 3/27/11 (Post Johnson/Hardy "Fight").
how many stand and bang fights do you want me to name??
if you are going to create this argument when less than 1/10th of 1% of ALL fights are actually this type of affair, then you are just looking to be pissed off. it makes no sense to me. Nick Lentz will never get ot a shot based upon that fight and was crucified by everyone for how bad he “fought”.
Funny that he subbed the last guy he fought, but he is still the poster child for your argument.
You asked for examples so I gave you one, and some more above.
"Matt Serra has unwittingly changed the face of MMA forever, with his KO of GSP he heralded the "Safe Win" era and all are starting to jump on that bandwagon. Good for them, bad for the majority of us brain-dead fans who don’t appreciate the intricacies of man laying on man action." - Jimrod 3/27/11 (Post Johnson/Hardy "Fight").
The point was that this is NOT the norm
I would even wager that the number of finishes has increased in the last 2 years.
You name 4 or 5 fights and think you have an argument, but it is opinion based, not factually based. You should just watch K-1, or record all the events and skip the ground fights stopping only on the actual sub, because wrestling is not going anywhere. It will give you less heartburn.
Yup, you too! :)
I do record them and fast forward if I see too much laying down with no action – fucking missed the Sonnen/Silva sub due to it as well! I think one reason I’m having a problem with dull fights it that it used to be a great “bloke night” where a group of mates would get together with beer and watch – now most are disinterested so I watch it on a Sunday morning. I think those mates are the kind of “floating voter” types that Dana wants back if he wants the sport to grow. Formula 1 racing has had problems with being dull for years now and they’re forever trying to figure out how to fix it… I don’t want the MMA to end up a place where everyone does what they can not to lose rather than everything they can to win.
"Matt Serra has unwittingly changed the face of MMA forever, with his KO of GSP he heralded the "Safe Win" era and all are starting to jump on that bandwagon. Good for them, bad for the majority of us brain-dead fans who don’t appreciate the intricacies of man laying on man action." - Jimrod 3/27/11 (Post Johnson/Hardy "Fight").
Before hardy gets cut and moved to strikeforce........
Would love to see hardy vs either kos or fitch
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