The UFC purchases Strikeforce, Dana White says they will run 'business as usual'
by Geno Mrosko on Mar 12, 2011 1:26 PM EST
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This is a historic purchase. In the above video, UFC President Dana White says Strikeforce will run business as usual and Scott Coker and company will remain in their current positions. Digest this one, Maniacs. What do you think?
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Hope its true and ITS ABOUT TIME
A lot of SF filler fighters are getting REAL scared right now
I am the WAMMA Light Heavyweight Champion
THE FIRST TO GO HAS TO BE..
Mauro Ranallo and sorry I don’t know his name but the black guy who has sounds like he doesn’t know why he is there. Keep Pat and Shamrock is ok if Pat is there but they need a guy who can talk, not yell or sound like he is trying to do a batman voice. Although with Coker still running the show i don’t see anyone leaving.
I guess Zuffa read my comment on this site a few weeks ago when I said
“Hhhmmm, I wonder how long until Zuffa buys out SF”?
by jewjiffshoes on Mar 12, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
you are really
nostradumbass :O!!
Believe in the Power of One
Oh my god
This is huge, 2011 is gonna be amazing.
A guy coming off two losses doesn't deserve a crack at any HW title
But I would bet anyone $100 that Couture doesn’t retire after Machida kicks his ass.
Also.. Kid Nate and Snowden might as well quit now
I am the WAMMA Light Heavyweight Champion
Youre in the wrong place buddy
because no-body gives a flying f***k about whoever you are reffering to
this is ridiculous
i think daley and fedor are getting booted
Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am the baddest motherfucker in the Goddamn valley
nvm, watching the video now
doesnt look like thats the way this is structured
Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am the baddest motherfucker in the Goddamn valley
probably tmw
and putting the MW post up on monday
Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am the baddest motherfucker in the Goddamn valley
dana may dislike certain guys like daley barnett, but hes not dumb enough to let his ego get in the way of his net profit
no one is getting the boot, Dana is taking over the world and is now looking into buying bolivia with frank Fertita
holy shit
holy shit.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Mar 12, 2011 1:33 PM EST reply actions
Is it April 1st already?
Boy did I sleep in….
by jestermarcus on Mar 12, 2011 1:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I second that
HOLY SHIT
"The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are right sometimes." – Winston Churchill
book it
melendez v guillard
overreem v winner of brock/jds
KING MO v RAMPAGE
Cabsa Here!!!
by mistahsupahyphy on Mar 12, 2011 1:35 PM EST reply actions
book it
lashley v mccorkle
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
*cough cough
Isn’t Lashley signed with Titan right now? Didn’t he lose to Griggs on his last contractual fight and not get resigned?
Nothing Ever Changes When Nothing Ever Changes
you've just shattered my dreams of the mccorkle v lashley superfight!
damn, well at least i can always dream of antwain britt v jared hamman
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
I believe Jared was cut from the UFC after Gus corked him
BIG NOG for Life
One Step closer to Gleison Tibau @ 145
If the round is too close, it's 10-10, NOT flip a coin 10-9 or late takedown FTW.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Mar 12, 2011 2:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
well then, this merger does nothing for me!
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
What the fuck is going on?
Seriously, what happens to the belts, tFedor, Daley……………what the hell is going on!#$#%#%TWETHGDFHETG
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Mar 12, 2011 1:35 PM EST reply actions
WEST SIDE bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cabsa Here!!!
by mistahsupahyphy on Mar 12, 2011 1:35 PM EST reply actions
Well, Diaz got his wish to prove if he is in the same class as gsp
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Mar 12, 2011 1:36 PM EST reply actions
UFC "nuthuggers" FTW
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."-Albert Einstein
by Craigo8609 on Mar 12, 2011 1:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Hmm, so they're not merging....
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Mar 12, 2011 1:37 PM EST reply actions
I'm confused, they're not going to
shut down Strikeforce?
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Mar 12, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
coker isn't stil prez. coker is still "prez"
give it a year or two. the fightes will start drifting nto the ufc one by one then no strikeforce
a predicter of the future is the past. pride, wec.
ithnk he’ll steal the top talent and leave strikeforce for the people he “fires”
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty much
It’s “business as usual” until the contracts expire with the talent, Showtime and M-1, then we’ll either see these guys move to the UFC or move on to another promotion/retire. Right now Zuffa can’t do anything because the contracts have already been signed so the only difference is that they will be the ones funding SF, the production and talent will largely remain the same for now. It’ll be interesting to see the immediate reaction of those who have been blackballed by the UFC or have refused to do a deal in the past but it’ll be a few months before we see any real changes. The UFC will end up with some of the top SF talent but those fighters that refused deals or left on bad terms in the past will be gone once their contracts expire.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
i think dana wants the tournament to go ahead
then the women fights. i think he’ll legitimise the fighters then he can make huge ppv main events with cross overs. plus he now has a national tv deal for more exposure
it wont last long. dana will milk it then absorb. you also don’t know what restrictions were in the contract preventing him to absord rght now and how long it’ll take for those restirctions to end
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Everything's garbage until they buy it lol
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
All SF fighters are still under contract.
We won’t be seeing Fedor in the UFC etc.
Shogun Rua p4p best, I called it.
Pro MMA Record is: 41-0
by danago on Mar 12, 2011 1:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Why is your name so stupid? In time if the fighters don’t want to cross over they won’t.
Shogun Rua p4p best, I called it.
Pro MMA Record is: 41-0
by danago on Mar 12, 2011 1:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
k dingelberry dango? or fandango?
dana white is MMA.
Cabsa Here!!!
by mistahsupahyphy on Mar 12, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
No Dana white isn’t mma. What, do people train in Dana White now? Go get a new name then come back.
Shogun Rua p4p best, I called it.
Pro MMA Record is: 41-0
by danago on Mar 12, 2011 1:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
lol good one jenny craig
Cabsa Here!!!
by mistahsupahyphy on Mar 12, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
training in dana white?
pretty sure gsp and bones jones spend pently of time in his ring
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
by the way geno
i really like the matter-of-fact-ness of the title
Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am the baddest motherfucker in the Goddamn valley
it was so inconspicuous
to the point where i looked at it and thought it was gonna be like a parody video or something lol
Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am the baddest motherfucker in the Goddamn valley
Lot of people thought at first that I was fucking around
or that someone had hacked the site. Nope. HUGE day for news. And here I thought it was going to be slow. HA.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
This has to be the most shocking moment in MMA history
The Pride buyout was bigger but it was always going to happen when the Yakuza involvement killed the sport in Japan, this deal came out of the blue. Take a day or 2 off Mania and this happens, crazy.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
So UFC will feed fighters to Strikeforce
plus they will probably take more control of what the fighters will do
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Mar 12, 2011 1:42 PM EST reply actions
Sounds like they dont plan on unifying belts.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Mar 12, 2011 1:43 PM EST reply actions
i think they will in time just like the wec
Cabsa Here!!!
by mistahsupahyphy on Mar 12, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
+1
1-2 years to clear out the current fight contracts and fighter status
Nothing Ever Changes When Nothing Ever Changes
Sucks for Daley.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Mar 12, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
they'll keep daley
once daley beats diaz thre’s no way the ufc will cut him. dana wash pushed into firing daley, he had to. but a win against diaz makes him a draw
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
THat's taking for granted he beats Diaz
Wow, that fighter just got even more epic. Daley has waaay more to lose.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Mar 12, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
i'm taking it for granted
after seeing cyborg do so well i can’t believe daley WONT beat him
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
the wec merger was obvious.
the UFC wanted to promote the lighter weight classes. Strikeforce is entirely different.
Fighting solves everything.
They'll merge at some point
Or at least they’ll pick up some of the SF talent and slowly kill off the company. Zuffa will make more money by promoting the top SF talent in their premier brand, matching them up with the UFC elite, rather than by funding a separate company. Right now they’re just waiting for the current deals to expire, once they do then we’ll see which guys make the move to the UFC and which don’t. Personally I expect them to sign up a few of the stars (Hendo, Gil, Overeem, Mo, Werdum, Silva and even Diaz) but to miss out on key guys, I’ll be very surprised if Fedor makes the move to the UFC and Semtex, Barnett and Shamrock will be gone as soon as their contracts expire.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
goog god. Fedor will retire post contract for sure.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Mar 12, 2011 1:44 PM EST reply actions
dana has always said hes never even talked to fedor, and that he doesnt have a problem with fedor
I am sure if Fertitatas, WHite and fedor went out to dinner without his gangster onterauge they would have an enjoyable time
I wouldn't be surprised if Fedor retired in the next few days
He was on the verge of packing it in anyway before M-1 stepped in, now that a company that he despises has bought the promotion he’s contracted with I doubt that he’ll be too keen to carry on.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
Fedor will retire
Overeem will go back to japan
Diaz will fight in boxing/japan.
Lol, this deal is stupid. Fighters won’t want to fight under Dana white.
Shogun Rua p4p best, I called it.
Pro MMA Record is: 41-0
by danago on Mar 12, 2011 1:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
"Lol, this deal is stupid. Fighters won’t want to fight under Dana white."
OMG you need to think before you fucking type.
EVER HEARD OF THE UFC? THE BIGGEST AND BEST MMA ORG I THE WORLD?
It’s only a rumor but I hear there are a lot of fighters who make it their career goal to fight under Dana White.
Nothing Ever Changes When Nothing Ever Changes
jason danago is right
overeem,diaz etc will hate this news imo
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
Jason's right
99% of fighters want to fight for Dana and the UFC. Obviously there are guys who dont like Dana, but for the most part guys want to fighter in the UFC.
Fighting solves everything.
It just so happens that Strikeforce top fighters don’t. Diaz doesn’t like the UFC, overeem doesn’t and won’t and we all know with the Fedor.
IDGAF about the b/c level fighters, of course they want to fight in the ufc but the top guys in Strikeforce don’t.
Shogun Rua p4p best, I called it.
Pro MMA Record is: 41-0
by danago on Mar 12, 2011 2:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i've heard about the fedor
then i used the internets and looked him up on the google.
my ape technique, put people down.
what is the internet?
is it a feeling?
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Diaz and Overeem will make the move if they're offered the right money
The Japanese scene is pretty much dead and if they’re given big contracts then both Nick and Alistair will choose the UFC over boxing/K-1. Both of them don’t want to be tied down by one company as they can make more money fighting in other sports and promotions but neither have bad relationships with Dana or Zuffa and both would sign on the dotted line if they got paid what they wanted.
Fedor is another story though, not only does he demand a lot of money but M-1 are notoriously difficult to deal with (hence the constant renegotiations of Fedor’s SF contract and the failure to strike a deal with the UFC) and Fedor himself does not approve of Dana or the UFC. He’s a very religious man and does not want to join a company or work for a man that he dislikes or presents a negative image. I’ll be surprised if he finishes his SF contract now that they’re owned by Zuffa.
Most MMA fighters want the chance to fight on the main stage in the UFC as that is the company with the most fans, that pays the most and has the best talent on offer to fight against. Dana has ruined a few potential deals by opening his big mouth and acting on emotions rather than logically so there will obviously be some people who will never sign but with this deal I’m confident that we’ll see at least some top stars of SF fighting in the UFC. Nick, Alistair and Gil will all make the move once their contracts expire, unless they get big offers from other sports (I doubt Nick will get a big boxing fight and K-1 is struggling financially) or the Japanese scene makes a big recovery (very unlikely at this point), because there’s no alternative and they’re all too young and talented to retire now.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
Overeem never said he wont fight in the UFC
and I bet if Dana set up a fight for him in the UFC he’d be there.
Fighting solves everything.
Overeem is the k1 champion. If Dana doesn’t sort his contracts up there’s no way term is fighting in the ufc, he’s made it clear.
Shogun Rua p4p best, I called it.
Pro MMA Record is: 41-0
by danago on Mar 12, 2011 2:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
true danago
if dana doesnt give in to overeem fighting in k-1 he will lose him for good.if he does it will open up a can of worms,diaz will want to fight in japan,fedor will want to fight in sambo etc.apart from the superfights this is horrible news fowr mma imo
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
nothing's changing
these guys aren’t fighting for Dana. Strikeforce will continue as usual, at least for now.
Fighting solves everything.
but they are all still his employees
his ufc stars are gonna say"how come he can fight in japan or sambo and i cant etc?" it will cause problems im telling ya.
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
because those guys are under contract.
im sure after those contracts expire Zuffa will only offer exclusive SF contracts.
Fighting solves everything.
i think he/ll snatch the winner of the hw tourney asap
once this year is done i think he’ll start flexing his muscles and taking names
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
thats the thing if overeem wins
theres no way he will sign an exclusive contract.Are we coming to the end of them?Are Zuffa gonna but the whole mma monopoly?I hope not!!Dana could just let sf die a horrible slow death.We needed some competiiton for the ufc.i dont like this at all.
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
Well said Scott, monopolies are the worst!!!!! Besides why does Dana get all the attention when the Fertitta Brothers are the ones buying Strikeforce.....
Also the Fertitta brothers are just trucst fund babies their father is the real business man.
Dana White- This is The Ultimate Fighter!! We dont vote guys off!! We beat them off!!
how do you feel Two words,superfights aside?
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
Fuck Superfights that's like saying McDonalds is Buying Wendy's and Burger King now we will have SuperBurgers!!!!!
Dana White- This is The Ultimate Fighter!! We dont vote guys off!! We beat them off!!
no mattito i think as a fan it maybe the only good thing to come out of this
not that im condoning it.its a bad day for mma
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
i think it's a good day for mma as a sport. maybe not a good day for fighters
as this no doubt will make the ufc as big as dana hopes. huge fights, a huge pool of fghters. total domination of western mma
the fighters however have fewer options, you’re either on dana’s team or you’re on your own…pretty much.
and what with his bindng contracts you don’t know how t’ll effect japanese mma. when he grasps total control i can’t see any stirkeforce fighters going to japan
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
the comparison is bad, but I own a business and I am trying to take down a monopoly and I would never have them buy me out....have some fucking pride!!!!!
Dana White- This is The Ultimate Fighter!! We dont vote guys off!! We beat them off!!
oh, i see. you're like Scott Coker yourself.
but as a consumer, i just want the best product.
Fighting solves everything.
much better to let the business close you down, leaving you ruined and in debt
than to take a deal that would leave you laughing and have a bank account full of cash. sometimes you can’t beat goliath
pride is good and well until it destroys your families finances and leaves or your emplyees unemployed
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
i was using sarcasm
the idea of sinking with the ship is noble and all. but if it ruins lives, swallow your pride and do right by as many people as you can
a bought up strikeforce is better than a bankrupt debt riddled strikeforce with un aid out of work fighters
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
*unpaid
seems my new laptop is just as shit as my old one
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
you didn't come off as a dick ha
actually started to wonder if i have at somepoint as i’m feeling like this is a good thing now where as if you asked me yesterday whether zuffa buyng out sf would be good i’d say no
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Pride don’t pay the fucking bills. So you have no pride if someone offers to buy you’re company for a shit load of money and you sell? You don’t know the state of strikeforces finical situation either man. For all we know there in danger of tanking. I know there ratings are good but free fights doesn’t generate a ton of cash. Coker just made a ton of money for himself and more power to him for that
GO BIG, OR GO HOME!!!
by LOKIE on Mar 12, 2011 3:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i remember crowd shots at the last ppv and there were bunches of empy chairs
there television deal obviously didnt pay the bills. at least this is something. something is always better than nothing…unless you’ve gone for an std test
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
I was hoping to see some cross-over matches
or just move all the top SF fighters to the UFC. Overall, I think this is good. It was only a matter of time before SF ran their business into the ground.
Fighting solves everything.
I'm keeping an open mind
Personally I think that one dominant promotion is the best option for the sport to grow as we will constantly be seeing the biggest fights but this will only work if the fighters are paid adequately, Zuffa don’t get complacent and allow standards to drop with no direct competition (like WWE did after buying out WCW) and Dana’s ego and other factors don’t keep top fighters out of the promotion. This could be a step in the right direction or the wrong one, it all depends on who ends up being signed up to the UFC and how good their shows and pay structure are in the upcoming months and years. It’s way too soon to judge now but we can all agree that this is a huge moment for MMA.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
I know, but this deal is the worst I was just starting to gain respect for Strikeforce
Dana White- This is The Ultimate Fighter!! We dont vote guys off!! We beat them off!!
yeah overeem has said he's not interested in the ufc, but we'll see
the fct that he doesn’t care about the ufc will mean we’re more likely to see him in there…so i think. i mean who is going to get the better contract, the superstar who badly wants to be n your organisation or the superstar who can walk away from the table at any moment. i think dana will give hima pretty sweet contract
competition will arise. some of the strikeforce fighters will no doubt go to bellator…or another organisation will rise from the ashes
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
sweet contract=floodgates though
cant give one without the other.
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
This is the worst fucking news I hate when retard companies start up in the red and have no liquidity....and chance Mark Zuckerburg likes MMA and wants to start an organization
fuck these Fetitta faggots trust fund baby babies.
Dana White- This is The Ultimate Fighter!! We dont vote guys off!! We beat them off!!
Yes TFB piss me off....worthless pieces of shit
Dana White- This is The Ultimate Fighter!! We dont vote guys off!! We beat them off!!
why do you take it so personal? why all the hate?
these guys brought the UFC to what it is today, and apparantly you’re a fan, which makes you a consumer.
Fighting solves everything.
I own two business' and I like competition, and if we have three different organizations then thats better for MMA as a fan in the long run......
Having one guy control all the fighters is bad and Dana is just lucky he is bankrolled by millionaires. Am I the only one who was excited about Strikeforce bieng a legit organization? I think that is more important then Superfights!
Dana White- This is The Ultimate Fighter!! We dont vote guys off!! We beat them off!!
if it wasn't for them there'd be no ufc..wec...strikeforce would be gone within the year
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Mainstream international MMA would have died with Pride without Zuffa
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
BREAKING NEWS
ZUFFA HAVE JUST BOUGHT SHINE,BELLATOR,SENGOKU,DREAM,SHOOTO.
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
more breaking news
they just bought my old laptop too!
SCORE!!!
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
He can give him a sweet contract, but if there’s not an option to fight in other orgs he won’t. Overeem has said kickboxing is one of his main focuses. Then of course if one fighter gets a contract another fighter will want it. It’s a ballache
Shogun Rua p4p best, I called it.
Pro MMA Record is: 41-0
by danago on Mar 12, 2011 2:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It would of been better to fail then to be bought out....Scott Coker is a pussy.
Dana White- This is The Ultimate Fighter!! We dont vote guys off!! We beat them off!!
Lol well I doubt that he cares about that
He’ll be happier making a deal now and cashing in on the promotion that he built himself and no longer having to deal with Showtime and M-1 undermining him, rather than go into competition with the UFC and lose all of his money on his business. At least SF will still exist in some form for now and we’ll still get to see the planned fights, better than what happened when Affliction were bought out.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
by sweet i'm thinking a three fight one year contract
dana can get those big fights then overreem can do his k-1 thing and japan thing. but considerng he’s just won k-1 i think that can be negotiated aroun if dana is offering him $500,000 a fight
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Then what if he gets the belt and his ufc contract runs out? Then he goes off to japan and fights in k1.
It’s a mess right now. Should never of bought sf.
Shogun Rua p4p best, I called it.
Pro MMA Record is: 41-0
by danago on Mar 12, 2011 2:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
if that's what he has to do. it's not like fighters haven't quit with the belt before ad the ufc survives
plus you have the “champion returns” comeback ppv
i would see that situation as more profitable than no overeem at all
Sometimes I am God, if I say a man dies, he dies that same day.
by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
So then it's not going to work
One thing for certain is reem is fighting kickboxing.
So when he’s over there fighting we just have to wait? If he gets injured over there? Does the hw go on hold until he finishes with k1?
Dana won’t want that, so it’s not going to happen. If Dana doesn’t like it he won’t do it, he won’t let his champion go fight overseas and put his division on hold.
It’s not going to happen, overeem would already be fighting in the ufc if that’s the case.
Shogun Rua p4p best, I called it.
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by danago on Mar 12, 2011 2:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
that's IF reem makes k-1 a deal breaker
he said he wanted a year to do it, to concentrate on k-1. and he did that and won it
now he’s a big family man i think big money ppv’s would sway him. fight a 3-4 fight contract in the ufc and look after his family.
it’s k-1 and no big mma fights or big paying fc fights and no k-1. i think he’ll take the money
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by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
He won’t, in a recent blog of his he stated k1 is very important to him. He can still be a family man and fight k1. Trust me, k1 will pay him well and overeem will also be free to fight in other orgs against cans which he will.
The deal is bullshit, Strikeforce fighters are hard enough to deal with, now with loud mouth Dana who’s basically trash talked all there fighters..
Competition is the most important thing for this sport, other orgs challenging the ufc and giving more fighters s chance to fight. It’s good for media and helps grow the sport.
Shogun Rua p4p best, I called it.
Pro MMA Record is: 41-0
by danago on Mar 12, 2011 2:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes I did
And zuffa owns Strikeforce. They can have someone else run it but they own it. In the long run they’ll want to do it the UFC way with the contracts.
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by danago on Mar 12, 2011 2:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
no doubt. i also don't doubt in a year strikeforce will be gone
which is a shame as i do enjoy their fights more, the refs seem to have less tolerence for inaction and resting. pride, wec…they’re gone, strikeforce will be too
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by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
in all fairness strikeforce never was competition
the deal has hampered options for fghters but this will make the port of mma grow. if dana can pull in the big fights it’s only going to help mma as a sport. new organisations will always arise and grow from the awareness ufc will ring to the public.
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by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
i think Dana will
eventually use SF as their own minor league, so when a guy loses 3 in a row, he goes to SF, and that way they control when he comes back. There are alot of guys the UFC likes, but sometimes they gotta let em go so they can get some wins together in the minors.
Fighting solves everything.
I think they will keep it the same
Fighters can go fight under dream but last I heard Overeem has yet to be even paid for his fight with Duffee?
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
they haven't paid him for that?
then i can’t see him putting up much opposition to the thought of a lucrative ufc career and all the money he could make in the ufc
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by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
i'm hping if that's the case they use strikeforce in a way that is different to the ufc
i like the emphasis on action, i like the no elbows on the ground.and i hope they play with tournaments. would love it if itwas a tournament based organisatio mixed in wit huge fights. the western pride
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by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Strikeforce was competition.
Lol, how wasn’t it? UFC owning everything isn’t good for the sport.. Who the hell wants to go into mma if when they start moving firward zuffa will come in and take over.
It’s not good for fighters and the fans.
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by danago on Mar 12, 2011 3:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
let me see...
fans love UFC, check.
fighters want to fight in the ufc, check.
Fighting solves everything.
Fighters do love to fight in the ufc, but not all can. That’s why we have other leagues for them. More orgs. More fights, more competition, more mma.
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by danago on Mar 12, 2011 3:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I disagree danago
This is much better for the fans.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
i agree it's better for fans. maybe not for fighters and there options
the superstars will always be alright. but the not so great now have fewer choices
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by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
How do superstars become superstars? The more orgs the more new talent is coming into mma which in the long run is better for the sport.
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by danago on Mar 12, 2011 3:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
there'll always be rising numbers of talent coming into mma
i think it’ll create a situation of more amateur organisations and more zuffa scouting. maybe even keep the strikeforce challengers format as a way of finding talent.
this will all settle. if coker sold strikeforce he did it for a reason. the reason being it probably would have folded. look on the brght side. strikeforce is still going, fighters are still employed. zuffa owns it, and zuffa may swallow it. but if it was sold it would have gone anyway
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by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Dan
the up and coming fighters now have an org to fight in thats controlled by Zuffa/UFC meaning, if they perform well, then they have a good chance at getting into the big show.
The UFC doesn’t want to eliminate the amateur leagues. They want to control it, so they can move guys to the UFC once they get good, which is what all the fans want to see.
Fighting solves everything.
The ufc want everything.
Just look at their contracts, they want to control everything.
They saud they’d keep pride going but did they? No, all those pride greats came up through pride. Without leagues out there takenred fighters will go unseen. I’d rather have 10 decent orgs than just 1 dominating.
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by danago on Mar 12, 2011 3:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
that's valid
but if 9 ofthose decent organisations were losing money and were about to fold, wouldn’t you rather see those fighters working in the last organisation than doing shit local fights for $100 a pop?
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by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
But was Strikeforce about to fold? No, they were doing very well. Already from Strikeforce we’ve seen some good fighters come through.
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by danago on Mar 12, 2011 3:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
if they sold you've got to think they had too
the hw tounry being moved around didn’t look good. you gotta think they were putting a brave face on it else they would have kept going. you don’tknow what their finances were
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by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
I just think the ufc can afford to throw that kind of money around and Strikeforce couldn’t refuse. Money talks and the UFC want to control everything so they’ll go big..
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by danago on Mar 12, 2011 3:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
well that part is true. but it's the nature of business
and love it or hate it it’s the only reaon mma is having this boom right now, through ufc’s lust for control
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by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
let me restate wasn't any "real" competition
the ufc never needed to worry about it. spoiled fighters dictating fights, shambles in behaviour and broadcasters, the managment of ppv’s. the ufc was neer threatened by strikeforce
and again i’ll say. i prefer strikeforce ppv’s on the whole. i find them way more entertaining. i think the last few sf ppv’s have killed he last few ufc ones
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by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
thats the thing if overeem wins theres no way he will sign an exclusive contract.
This is not true Scott Overeem has shown desire to fight in the uFC but stated he couldn`t until he was done with K1 and had no intention anytime soon in doing so…this was about a year ago now that K1 sounds like it is done it is very possible.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
yeah for real they have got some serious financial problems
could zuffa buy k-1? WOW
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
Why buy a org that is going under that has no valuable fighters under contract?
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
what so all the kickboxers are gonna become mmartists?
k1 as a show is massive.could a ufc show sellout a stadium as big as they do,i doubt it.
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
not my point puck head was basically saying it was worthless
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
I heard it was folding? And if true it is worthless
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
worthless on a monetary sense
but k1 for me is awesome.it would hurt me more if it finished than pride did.way more! i remember watching james mcsweeny fight michael mcdonald in a kickboxing match in the cage at cage rage.i luvd it is that an option?
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
I ment purely as business
I agree K1 fights are great but it make more sense to start your own kickboxing org than buy a failing org?
What I think would be the best is a org that has both kickboxing(about 25% of the time and MMA the other 75% of the time allowing fighters to fight under both.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
wow puck id luv that!
kickboxing and mma on the same card wow! its right what u say about starting a new org but k1 is synonymous with hw kickboxing same as pride was with mma.i dont think the yakuza would let dana in anyway lol
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
They will eventually unify belts....
I guess they will keep the companies seperate for now, until fans start pickering which we are already doing. And by the way didn’t strikeforce bag 30 million last year, zuffa must have bought them for atleast a 100 million.
Long live the dragon!!!
by Octagon Brilliance on Mar 12, 2011 1:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
30 mil revenue
Not profit.
If they actually made a profit..they would have said so
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by Reality_Jockey on Mar 12, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Striekforce will be closed down post showtime contract.
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by RogersPark Kris on Mar 12, 2011 1:49 PM EST reply actions
Remember
they talked like they wanted to run PRIDE separately when they bought them out and we all remember how quickly that went away. Obviously, there are gigantic differences here but we’ll see how long all the shit that Dana said in the video actually lasts.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
Diaz?gSP
is the biggest fight in WW division, so I agree Geno
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
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until his lawyers can pick out all the loopholes in the contract i'm guessing
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by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
who's lawyers?
Diaz would love to fight GSP
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
dana's
i’m guessing he’ll want the top strikeforce fighters as soon as
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by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
This is a nightmare I fucking hate Monopolies!!!!!!!! This is tragic.
Dana White- This is The Ultimate Fighter!! We dont vote guys off!! We beat them off!!
i'm conflicted
the idea of superfights is great. but i do enjoy strikeforce fights more, and competition and conflict generally leads to beter products for fans
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by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
So is NFL,NHl,MLB and NBA too?
Wake up. It’s just a natural proccess of building a true Pro Sport. Embrace it or leave it.
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by Leaking Wound on Mar 12, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
I hope Dana is talking out his ass...
I wanna see fighters fight each other from the seperate companys//I would love to see Reem murder Brown Stain and Brock…And REEM vs JDS is FUCKIN epic…Diaz beat down DSP, I could go on and on! I hope Dana does not stick to what he just said.
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...
Diaz has less shot against GSP than 'Ardy did.
The fact that he is fighting nobodies in SF and Dream for the last 4 years, none of wwhom was even a decent wrestler, makes people believe for some reason that he has a chance.
Nick got $150,000 for his last SF fight. That would be #2 in the UFC WW division behind GSP. When teh companies, merge, Nick will get Fitch/Kos then a Diego rematch, then get cut because he will never beat an elite wrestler. It is a Diaz genetic defect. ;)
Good point
They’ll merge the promotions when they get the chance but for now there’s a lot of contracts in place, which involve some complex deals with numerous different parties so until they are resolved then we won’t see anything different under the Zuffa owned SF.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
Its obvious a lot of people didn't even begin to listen to this...
at least not before they started typing
this is awesome. Freaking Zuffa is becoming too big to fail lol
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- Brother Ali
I think this is the UFC'e way of righting the grievous wrong they commited in 2007 with Pride
it will be intresting and fun to see how it all works moving forward
"Daley will never fight in the UFC"
Where’s he gonna end up going post Strikeforce closing down?
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Mar 12, 2011 1:56 PM EST reply actions
White clearly said the UFC wanted more fighters.
And then in the next breath said that it’s business as usual…accept theyll feed strikeforce fighters.
So,… Isnt that contradicting statements ?
I read it as “We’ll support Strikeforce so we can market their name, and then in filter in the big names” ala wec
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by RogersPark Kris on Mar 12, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
That's exactly what they want to do
They’re also waiting for the TV deals and the fighter contracts to expire before bringing in SF talent to the UFC or allowing those that they don’t want to leave.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
I hope they keep miletich and shamrock as the announcers
Supporter of ALL Miletich camp fighters and ALL Tuf 1 fighters.
"I can go in there smelling like booze and dirty strippers and still put the stamp on kids."- Chris Leben
I train in Mixed Martial Arts
Showtime will still be in control of production so the commentators will be the same for now
Unless Frank Shamrock quits, which is also a possibility. I really want to see how things play out with those who have been blackballed from the UFC like Frank, Semtex and Barnett. I have a feeling that there’s going to be some long-term issues and arguing over the contracts.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
Thiago Alves vs Paul Daley
Book it now. Also Gegard should drop to middleweight.
I just see this as a upcoming merger.
Favourite fighters: Paul Daley, Thiago Alves,Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Alistair Overeem, Gegard Mousasi, Anthony Pettis, Brandon Vera, Melvin Manhoef,Joe Lauzon, Bas Rutten,Chris Lytle.
by robinhorobson on Mar 12, 2011 2:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Alves and Daley sounds awesome
I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy...
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I immediately looked at the calendar to double check it wasn't April 1
I mean what in the fuck?
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by Cory Braiterman on Mar 12, 2011 2:04 PM EST reply actions
My next question is,
did the Fertitta brothers pay cash?
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Mar 12, 2011 2:13 PM EST reply actions
Cash?
Imagine the airline miles…
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by Reality_Jockey on Mar 12, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
nice! iwas just gonna say it was the can-am connection but that was martel and zenk
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
Jumpin jim brunzell!!!
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Wrong team lol
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
Lol good one
Pity that once SF split all the WWF had for them were stupid gimmicks like El Matador and The Model. Even those 2 talented guys couldn’t make that crap work.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
its a monopoly
the only reason Scott Coker is running SF cause it will raise questions with the SEC because there is no way is this legal if ALL major Brands are named after UFC… no way.
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
Who will Fedor
fight next now?
Coker sold out fast lol
I've said it all along.....
UFC is PRO…..Strikforce is Semi-Pro. And now I’m fuckin’ right. Fuck you Chorongota,Untitled_Artistry,Puck Head,Coach’s Corner,vhw_ and all you others who didn’t believe me!! Fuckin’ EH!!!!!!!
The taste of blood......beautiful.
Lol Puck's as pro-UFC as you can get on here
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
Puck has in the past......
agued love for SF and Fedor.
The taste of blood......beautiful.
by Leaking Wound on Mar 13, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy fukin' epic batman
Hope this is true… Except I watch strikeforce cards for free on super channel. They better not take that from me and charge 60 bucks
by Jesse13 on Mar 12, 2011 2:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Man, I'm glad the internet...
Didn’t exist in 1970 because all the people whining about the NFL-AFL merger would have looked like real dumbasses.
by Sergio Hernandez on Mar 12, 2011 2:28 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Most people who whine on the Internet look like dumbarses
People always moan about change, nothing new there.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
The real question is
Will the UFC haters still watch strikeforce and say that it’s card are ’way more entertaining than anything UFC does" or will they just move to Dream now?
That’s the real question
Jon Jones LHW Champion 2011
Gray and Pray LW Champion 2011
I usually like Ariel
but fuck he came off retarded as fuck in this interview…
"Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless" - Kenny Powers
he got a huge excusive they guy's pants were prorbably hlf full of shit and half full of cum
this is about as big as it’s got for ariel
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by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
im jealous!
usually when i see him we sit and “chat,” after this interview, im thinking of killing ariel next toim i see him, then maybe i can fill his spot!
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by kevjack115 on Mar 12, 2011 3:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
well maybe now he's such a high flyer getting ufc exclusives it'll all go to his head
a lindsay lohan spiral of binging and shame will lead him to rehab then you can shark on in there
or get some dirt on him and blackmail him
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by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
third suggetion. "helwani" does sound a bit terroristy a couple of calls to the right people and he's guantanamo'd
then enter the ew wave of mma reporters
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by sir.tickleberry on Mar 12, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Never heard that phrase before
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
HOLY SMOKES!
This is insane, just insane. M1 must be crapping a brick right now.
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by Jrandolph on Mar 12, 2011 2:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
WOW!
That’s pretty major. I think some of us were expecting this, but not for… well, several years! There’s a few major questions though:
1. How long till the UFC just absorbs the SF fighters?
2. How fucked is M-1 right now? (I find this one hilarious)
3. What about DREAM’s arrangement with SF? Hell, will DREAM even survive as it is?
4. Could this affect the UFC getting a large network deal? Say… UFC on CBS or something at some point?
I guess those are the major questions for now. Still, pretty major news.
1. The fighters are under contract. So, each fighter is different.
2. Real fucked.
3. I don’t see Zuffa allowing SF fighters to fight Dream fighters, vice-versa. It goes against their business model.
4. I’m sure it helps.
Fighting solves everything.
Thanks
Yeah. I kinda figured the fighter contracts might be a bit of an obstacle for now. DREAM, even though I liked their sharing option, doesn’t seem like they’ll be around much longer with financing problems (DAMMIT!). I do find the M-1 bit hilarious though. They tried so hard to get away from Zuffa and now? Well, now the company they’re currently co-promoting with is Zuffa. Oh the irony.
I stlli don’t get why they bought this cuz there not taking fighters and puttng on ufc vs strikeforce fights?!?! Like they should so they can move into the different markets in the world with more fighters.
they will hes just playing it cool till contracts run out
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
slowly but surely.
They tried that with Pride, and they rushed it. Smart thing to do is let it run on its own for a while, then slowly merge.
Fighting solves everything.
wow, this is bad for the fans. monopolies are horrible. strikeforce could have made a fortune if they just had the balls to go at it alone.
instead, they sold out to the ufc and a guy who spent all his free time trashing their organization and fighters. the ufc will probably not allow strikeforce fighters to compete in different organizations.
by Conan the Barbarian on Mar 12, 2011 3:00 PM EST reply actions
Coker sold because he wasn't making a fortune
Did they even make a profit last year?
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
maybe not, but their hw tournoment was making some noise
and hendo was finally starting to pay off. they were on the verge of parity (in the hw division) and probably could have had their first successful ppv with the tournament finale. fedor was a real let down money wise, but hendo was starting to pay off. his next couple of fights will be interesting.
i think fedor losing had a lot to do with this.
by Conan the Barbarian on Mar 14, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
It's Business As Usual...
Until contracts are up. Then all the top Strikeforce guys that Dana doesn’t hate will be fighting for the UFC.
So what Dana is saying is that Strikeforce is going to be the EXACT SAME company as it was. Other than a few production changes…But Coker will still run it. Fighters won’t cross over. Why did they purchase Strikeforce again?
smoke and mirrors my friend
as soon as the contracts are up expect the same old dana to appear and fuck everyone off he doesnt like and fold sf.hes an egotistical,megalomaniac control freak.he will fold sf and then move on to another org.he wants the lot
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
dana wants the ufc to be like the nfl. no serious competition
strikeforce was causing a stir and making just as many mma headlines as the ufc. dana couldn’t have that. i wonder if he will fire dan henderson again? if so, dan will make bank in dream. fuck dana white.
by Conan the Barbarian on Mar 12, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
because strikeforce was getting too big. fighters were starting to realize that they had other options than the ufc and they could walk
and make more like hendo did. the sf hw division was comparable to the ufc’s and people could argue about who had the better hw’s. the ufc can’t exist if it loses it’s shine. it needs to be dominant in all aspects of mma. strikeforce was getting too close.
it was wreaking havoc on fighter negotiations and stealing market share from the ufc. it had to be eleminated.
by Conan the Barbarian on Mar 12, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
I hope this duznt turn in2 a fuckin mess!
Fighters not being able 2 fight & contract bullshit like big country. I can’t see te video from my phone but j have a feeling Dana’s guna fuck agit up some how.
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Wings of pain, reach out for you
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Your blood running cold
by d*locc on Mar 12, 2011 3:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Haaaa! I've been saying I couldn't wait for strikeforce to be done for months now!
Ya’ll laughed at me!! Ya’ll laughed at me. Well, who’s laughing now!!! UUUUUUUUFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFfCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC!!!!
I cudnt w8 for SF to be done either.
Who likes watching sick fights for free?
Seas of blood, bury life
Smell your death as it burns
Deep inside of you
Abacinate, eyes that bleed
Praying for the end of
Your wide awake nightmare
Wings of pain, reach out for you
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Your blood running cold
by d*locc on Mar 12, 2011 3:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
historically monoplies are terrible, but who knows how this will work out. But if history plays out how it always does only the fans and fighters will suffer.
lol still no answer?
Check out the new girl. Zuffa is growing and expanding the sport, they need fans and fighters to do that lol.
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why will fans suffer ? .. i’m asking .. because they will have more fights to watch ? .. because now their will be tons of ‘big name’ fights all the time ? .. i’m just wondering when my suffering is going to start , being a fan and all.
danago - "I’d rip Aldo a new octagon if he ever tested me. I’d smash that kid up, I’m on a different level for sure. Id axe kick his dome.."
oh and the fighters .. ya lets fight for a bancrupt organization that has barely any national recognition and zero international recognition or fight for the biggest league in the world ..
seems like turning down an NHL contract to play hockey in a beer league on Sundays.
but they are prolly suffering ..
danago - "I’d rip Aldo a new octagon if he ever tested me. I’d smash that kid up, I’m on a different level for sure. Id axe kick his dome.."
this is crazy
but strikeforce can now be the development league that the WEC was!
I'm not insane. My mother had me tested.
Good move, makes total sense both in the short term and long term
Gives Zuffa lots of options and possibilities.
Be interested to see if they use Coker and the SF platform to garner a way into Japan for the UFC. As White stated, he can use other ‘partners’ to deal with other parties whom he has pissed off..
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Mar 12, 2011 3:25 PM EST reply actions
Fair point on UFC/Japan
Didn’t even think of that. Coker could be another useful ally for Zuffa in their bid for international expansion. Dana’s big mouth as well as Pride folding has made it difficult for the UFC to get anywhere in Japan but with contacts already established between SF and Dream maybe Coker et al can help them make new contacts and get some deals for TV and live events sorted over there.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
It's one of those deals where on first hearing you just think it was to snuff out the competition
but when you think about it it has lots of positives for Zuffa.
The other big thing for them is network TV in the States. White has publically slated ShowTime for years and has struggled to get the UFC on network TV.
Now he holds the two best orgs in N America and has way more bargaining power, especially when he merges the two further down the line. The sport will be more popular by then (if you factor in its growth over the last 4 years) so maybe they could compete with boxing in time. I still dont believe it’ll be the most popular sport in the world but it may well become one of the most profitable for its owners…
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Mar 13, 2011 5:13 AM EST up reply actions
Strikeforce will be a well oiled machine now
Zuffa will make the tweaks here and there and build the Strikeforce brand. They need more shows so I think Strikeforce will stay for a long time. This is progress boys.
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Amazing. I hope merging and exchanging fighters happens as quick as possible, basically immediately.
BUsiness will not be as usual. They will explode the Strikeforce Brand using the UFC Hype and Promotion Machine and then merge them eventually.
This basically has made my year already. Thx Dana!
Let the twittering begin. I can see Overeem starting to call out UFC fighters and Brock wanting to fight Bobby Lashley. Possibilities are endless.
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yes we can see koscheck whoop diaz ass all over the octogon i bet kos is loving it
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by gamedog85 on Mar 12, 2011 3:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Can We Say WWE Buying WCW? Again?
Remember That Happened Exactly 10 Years Ago Around This Time. Anyway, I’m Excited To See What Comes Out Of This Purchase. If It Leads To A Merger, I Don’t Think It Will “Stack” The Divisions, I Think They’ll Just Keep Some Of The Better Fighters From Each Division (Reem, Bigfoot, Werdum, Diaz, Hendo, etc.). Maybe Total Unification Of The Division Titles Or Newer Divisions To Really Settle The “Pound-For-Pound” Debates.
YEAH! IT'S THE JUGGERNAUT B****!
This is like WWE buying TNA
The buyout of Pride and the disastrous waste of new talent/failure to sign the biggest star is a better example of the WWF/WCW buyout.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
fighters still have contracts with strikeforce, not the ufc. the ufc can't put strikeforce fighters on their cards unless the fighters agree to it.
none of the big names will go for that without bank" ala henderson" what is dana going to do with him this time? pay him or fire him again???
by Conan the Barbarian on Mar 12, 2011 4:36 PM EST reply actions
paul daley better file for unemployment
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DID MMA LIVE EVEN COVER STRIKEFORCE????
they promote the hell out of the ufc (even have their fighters as commentators) but i have never seen them promote any other cards. might as well call it ufc live.
by Conan the Barbarian on Mar 12, 2011 4:38 PM EST reply actions
At first i thought this is awesome
but im not sure if i like it. Unless the UFC uses some of SF talent which im sure they will. Diaz ,reem ,miller, robbie lawler , gilbert, ect. So many good matches if we can mix these guys up abit. But i dont want to have less fights now . We should have more . Use SF as the minors kinda for the UFC
There are big downsides for fighters who don't play Whites game
I worry for the likes of Daley etc because they’ll be restricted to small orgs or Japan ONLY
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Mar 13, 2011 5:15 AM EST up reply actions
Haven't we heard him talk tons of shit on scott coker?
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yeah, kinda. At the very least, to the product
i don’t know… good for strikeforce, i guess. I just don’t know what to make of all this
That's what they said about PRIDE
and shortly after they purchased it, most of the top names started to go over to the UFC an RIP PRIDE. RIP STRIKEFORCE!
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