Report: Strikeforce revenue reaches $30 million for 2010-11 fiscal year
by Jesse Holland on Feb 8, 2011 11:53 AM EST
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UFC President Dana White might want to take his Strikeforce tombstone off layaway.
That's because a report from Silicon Valley / San Jose Business Journal (dissected by MMA Payout) has Scott Coker and his MMA fight brand (co-owned by Silicon Valley Sports & Entertainment) generating up to $30 million in revenue for the 2010-11 fiscal year.
And unless 29 of it was spent on acquiring Fedor Emelianenko and his M-1 cohorts, it's hard to imagine that Strikeforce isn't turning a profit -- or at the very least breaking even.
While those numbers make Strikeforce look like a cymbal-banging monkey toy compared to the 800-pound gorilla known as Zuffa, consider that Coker and Co. only scratched out four million in 2006.
From the "Payout Perspective:"
Main source of income are ticket sales, sponsorships, and most importantly, television licensing. Back in 2009, Strikeforce signed a TV deal with Showtime, which MMA insiders said the promotion would make $25 million in licensing fees over the course of the three-year deal, which runs into 2012. The deal was made after Strikeforce purchased assets from Showtime’s previous MMA partner, ProElite for $3 million, which included roughly 42 fighter contracts and a video library of 20 live events to name a few.
Strikeforce has already planned an ambitious 2011 fight campaign including a heavyweight grand prix tournament that begins this Saturday night (Feb. 12) in East Rutherford, NJ, featuring a headlining bout (and quarterfinal match-up) between Fedor Emelianenko and Antonio "Bigfoot" Silva.
A late summer/early fall pay-per-view has also been discussed.
Now it's time for feedback Maniacs. Do these numbers make it more appealing for free agent fighters worried about their futures? Or should these figures be taken with a grain of salt? Can the ship be taking on water in spite of these numbers?
While still far from perfect, Strikeforce always delivers entertaining fights.
Anyone have an argument to the contrary?
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HIKE!
from left: 3rd, 4th, 1st, 2nd
Only I would be dumb enough to pick a guy who couldn’t even beat his own wife in a fight agaisn’t a world class fighter like Nick Diaz.
almsot, 4312
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Feb 8, 2011 12:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
almost, 4312
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Feb 8, 2011 12:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
2 4 3 1
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Do work son!
^ ^ ^
ding ding ding. thats it
"I like being punched... I like... punchin'" ~Gray Maynard
"A black belt only covers two inches of your ass, you have to cover the rest" ~Royce Gracie
"I don't work submissions, not because I'm trying to prove anything, but frankly I'm just not very good at them" ~Chael Sonnen
agreed
Only I would be dumb enough to pick a guy who couldn’t even beat his own wife in a fight agaisn’t a world class fighter like Nick Diaz.
Agreed with Ulf. Just based on face.
Body wise I have from left : 3,2,1,4
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth."
-Stephen King
I dont care would take any in any order or even better all at once! Or even just watch any together im not fussy
boards dont hit back....
I am more of a body type of guy than a pretty face type of guy. For example, I would rather be with an average face - awesome body than a beautiful face - average body.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth."
-Stephen King
You can change body shape
Fugly is fugly. But I get you.
"I don't want a large farva. I want a goddamn litre o' cola! " - Rod Farva
Not fugly. Average. And most women do not have the discipline to change their body shape.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth."
-Stephen King
They have excellent discipline in ball-breaking though.
I know a few with black belts in that discipline.
Only if you let them. Men should blame themselves for that, though.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth."
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 8, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know OJ. I'm married, and let me tell you, when they "cut off the ring"
by knowing where to find you, or see the box of cookies that you left open and didn’t seal properly, the opportunity of the nut cracking is prime.
No offense to you but I don't give permission to anyone to treat me like a child. Once a woman gives me that jazz - I point to the door. The only woman who can give me orders is my mother and that's because I owe her my life. The End.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth."
-Stephen King
by OJR on Feb 8, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
LOL, I hear you OJ. I'm just exaggerating.
My wife is cool, but to say that you get to do whatever you want whenever you want when married is a lie. You just have to endure a lil’ compromise once in a while. I’ll take that in exchange for double the income and nookie on a regular basis.
And no offence taken bromaster, you’re def one of the cats on this site who are grounded and wise beyond their years.
same exact taste
3 & 4 could switch spots if 4 wasn’t so fake baked.
"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be a mile from them, and you'll have their shoes." - Jack Handy
by PSYQO78 on Feb 8, 2011 12:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Someone please explain these hand placements to me?
It looks like they are trying to dry their hands, like in a restroom when they have the hot air blower instead of paper towels. “4 more farts and my hands will finally be dry!”
The MMAmania Fantasy Football CHAMPION!
Anyone know the revenue Zuffa generated?
"The next best thing to being clever is being able to quote someone who is." -Mary Pettibone Poole
Im British. No i don't have terrible teeth, eat crumpets and drink tea all day.
This Bullshit Is Going around quickly
If they were actually making money…they’d be bragging about it.
Expenses?
M-1’s cut?
Anyone with 3 weeks of 1st year accounting sees HUGE red flags when someone only lists Revenue.
I am the WAMMA Light Heavyweight Champion
thank you
Steven Seagal is P4P the best MMA trainer. I’m now going to wear a mask to hide my shame because I was stupid enough to pick Vitor against the greatest fighter of all time
took me three weeks to understand debits versus credits...
RJ’s a smart cookie.
Only I would be dumb enough to pick a guy who couldn’t even beat his own wife in a fight agaisn’t a world class fighter like Nick Diaz.
You make it sound like this was a Strikeforce press release
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
by Jesse Holland on Feb 8, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
No, its just very shoddy "journalism"
Thats getting copy and pasted everywhere.
I am the WAMMA Light Heavyweight Champion
by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Was that supposed to be an insult?
… i don’t even know how to respond to such low quality trolling.
I am the WAMMA Light Heavyweight Champion
by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
thin skinned
i only threw it out there cuz you dissed the quality journalism of our boy Jesse.
if you’re going to dish it out, try to be able to take it next time.
and troll? please.
No...
You’re not even insulting anything….
Its just sad.
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by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
That would be
The guy who hasn’t posted a single thing related to the actual article.
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by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
you've been in multiple arguments on this page alone
and twice been called out for being thin skinned, by two different Maniacs.
yeah, it must just be me.
I'll be concerned
When i get called out by some people with some even semi-thought out responses.
Not holding my breath for that though.
That load of crap below could be posted in response to any criticism of SF.
My criticism of this article is very obvious and cut-and-dry valid.
I am the WAMMA Light Heavyweight Champion
by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
He is very thin skinned. he does this all the time
just ignore him
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."
Hey look
Its copy and paste man
I’ll take the troll over the straight ripoff guy anytime.
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by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Hey look
Its copy and paste man
I’ll take the troll over the straight ripoff guy anytime.
I am the WAMMA Light Heavyweight Champion
by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
honestly
why don’t you add teaser posts to the fanpost section here? Put you money where your moputh is. Many of us love op-ed pieces and Mania has made a concious decision to not write a lot of op-ed’s.
Give us a taste here, because most of us will never go to your blog. This is home.
Only I would be dumb enough to pick a guy who couldn’t even beat his own wife in a fight agaisn’t a world class fighter like Nick Diaz.
This wasn't op-ed
He added maybe 20 words to the same story floating everywhere.
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by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
hey dummy
somebody is trying to work with you…
Steven Seagal is P4P the best MMA trainer. I’m now going to wear a mask to hide my shame because I was stupid enough to pick Vitor against the greatest fighter of all time
I never said it was mine. what is your website?
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."
Good point
The guy you ripped it off from actually had his videos working.
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by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Good for him, I just like to have MMA discussions on here
Just like everyone here. Call me a copy and paste man or a blatant thief whatever you want. It doesnt bother me at all.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."
Like I said on your ripped off piece.
Who needs integrity.
I am the WAMMA Light Heavyweight Champion
by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
I understand that
but you are acting like your original stories trump what we get here. Put your money where your mouth is. Instead of hating, you stepped out and did something by starting your blog. To get bigger, post something here to show us your writing chops. The worst case scenario is you get blasted, the best is you drive additional traffic and make a little more money, or just some money, whatever the case may be.
Only I would be dumb enough to pick a guy who couldn’t even beat his own wife in a fight agaisn’t a world class fighter like Nick Diaz.
Original Stories?
I’ve posted 1 thing like 2 months ago that I originally posted a year ago elsewhere to kill time.
Do you guys really just make stuff up to insult when the obvious fact fail you.
I am the WAMMA Light Heavyweight Champion
by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Doesn't really count as copy and apste
When you write the original.
I am the WAMMA Light Heavyweight Champion
by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
did you arrive with this pickel up your butt
or did you just decide to insert it when you got here?
Steven Seagal is P4P the best MMA trainer. I’m now going to wear a mask to hide my shame because I was stupid enough to pick Vitor against the greatest fighter of all time
I AM NOT INSULTING YOU
but I will start if that is what you prefer.
you are critiquing both Mania and Ponch for their practices. Are you doing it for no reason, or do you actually have a blog? One of the guys said you have a blog. If not, I withdraw the entire post train, and apologize for the misunderstanding.
If you do have a blog, show us what your interpretation of journalism really is in the fanpsot section.
I shouldn’t have to explain like this. I agree with most of what you are saying, but believe everyone is attacking you. That is not the case if you read my tone and actual words, like “honestly” or “Agreed” or “RJ’s a smart cookie”. All are positive and not meant tongue in cheek in the least.
Only I would be dumb enough to pick a guy who couldn’t even beat his own wife in a fight agaisn’t a world class fighter like Nick Diaz.
I am insulting Punch
BECAUSE HE BLATANTLY RIPPED OFF AN “ARTICLE” FROM SOMEONE ELSE.
It seems like that should mean something to a blog site where intellectual integrity is pretty much the only thing a writer has
As for mania…not sure where i’m insulting. Pointing out the obvious question that is not being raised shouldn’t insult someone.
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by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
from you...
No, its just very shoddy “journalism”
This is not insulting? And you didn’t answer the question about your blog. If you don’t have one or actually work in journalism, then how can you form such a strong opinion? from a book? I am seriously asking this because I have no inclination to be a journalist, so the copy/paste argument you are having means nothing to me. As long as a guy doesn’t purely plagiarize stuff, I am ok with it.
Only I would be dumb enough to pick a guy who couldn’t even beat his own wife in a fight agaisn’t a world class fighter like Nick Diaz.
Thats just true
A write up on a piece about “revenue” that doesn’t question the expenses is shoddy.
No other way to describe it
I am the WAMMA Light Heavyweight Champion
by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
"reality" can be insulting, even if that is not your intent.
but you still haven’t given any inclination that you are anything more than someone who just likes to bitch, and you have purposely avoided the questions that I have openly and honestly asked.
If you are a hater, to be a hater, great. Just let me know, so I can ignore you in the future. It would be too bad because you seem reasonably intelligent, even with the chip on your shoulder.
Only I would be dumb enough to pick a guy who couldn’t even beat his own wife in a fight agaisn’t a world class fighter like Nick Diaz.
I'll admit
Once a troll has pissed me off… I can let it roll over into other responses.
Its hard to pick out the actual responses from the generic “you’re just a hater” that pop up anytime your raise a valid concern
I am the WAMMA Light Heavyweight Champion
by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
From experience
I can tell you that Jesse would have put the information into the article had it been available.
Considering SF is a private company, they are under zero recourse to release any information regarding their financial standing to anyonethat is not a part owner. And, considering Mania does not do any investigative reporting, there is zero reason to think that any additional information will be found by any of the staff. So, in a nutshell, it is what it is. Nothing more.
Mania condenses the confirmed news and puts it in one place for the diehard fans that make this site our home. We, the community, sprinkle in some op-ed and some T&A, with our semi-intelligent banter.
You could either accept this, without the instant jibes and cracks, or continue to make friends with alarming regularity like you have been doing. Your choice.
Only I would be dumb enough to pick a guy who couldn’t even beat his own wife in a fight agaisn’t a world class fighter like Nick Diaz.
also
the source article is “premium content and needs a pay subscription to read the entire piece.”
and if there’s one thing Mania is … it’s cheap. :)
Frankly
I think the original piece is either SF fluff or there’s some reality hidden behind the subscription required portion.
I’ll give Holland credit though
the"Can the ship be taking on water in spite of these numbers?" is more questioning than the entire MMA Payout article.
I am the WAMMA Light Heavyweight Champion
by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
its too late Ulf
That pickel is Steve-O deep. He’s just unhappy with a lot of the interwebs today.
Steven Seagal is P4P the best MMA trainer. I’m now going to wear a mask to hide my shame because I was stupid enough to pick Vitor against the greatest fighter of all time
As for Adam
I’ve yet to see a comment from him that even suggests he read the article at all
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by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
LOL, it's true, I also ogled more than read
This Jockey cat just seems to hate anyone with an even slight different viewpoint. That is journalism, if you work for Fox news.
and for the record, RJ
this whole thing started with your “shoddy journalism” line, which you somehow refuse to admit was an insult.
however you intended it, i took it as a dig on Jesse, who is a quality sports writer responsible for half the articles that appear on Mania. So i said, sarcastically, “yeah, because your blog gets so much traffic.” meaning, it’s easy to insult the articles when you’re a keyboard warrior without his own blog.
the article is NOT a press release. if you want to bitch and moan about revenue or other information you think should have been included, you miss the point of the piece. it’s not investigative journalism, it’s passing along a story that’s making headlines in the MMA blogosphere. it’s the same thing the AP does every day.
but then you pick fights with everyone who comments on your first “shoddy” insult. that’s TROLLING!
again, if you want to dish it out, just be sure you can take it. until then, go ask your mom if your big-boy pants are out of the wash.
GET OFF MY LAWN !!!!
Steven Seagal is P4P the best MMA trainer. I’m now going to wear a mask to hide my shame because I was stupid enough to pick Vitor against the greatest fighter of all time
so you're simultaneously in more than 3 arguments on here
and yet you’re not the troll. love your logic, buddy.
oh and nice job on the repeat posts. try to keep up with this new-fangled technology.
Why the SF hate?
I don’t understand why in the home of the brave, land of the free, where entrepeneurs and business folk are revered, everyone shits on SF and Coker.
They’re running a business, just like the UFC. Sure, sometimes they scrap together questionable fights and there are a few visible cracks, but overall their product is good and has been providing exciting events.
There are points of criticism for the UFC as well. Of course, they are bigger and have been doing things on a grander scale, but my point is that it is “OK” to watch and enjoy SF.
Reality isn't hate
Being purposely ignorant is pathetic though
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by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
How is it exactly that my post is ignorant? Because it deviates from what you say?
That is much more indicative of ignorance then what I said.
There was no "hate"
Just a blindingly blatant question.
Its a much better case of SF shilling.
If you’re reading something related to revenue and profit without questioning the expenses… you are, by definition, ignorant
ignorant: lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned
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by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
LOL at your self-perceived gravitas.
The fact that you have to revert to name-calling and put-downs when someone disagrees with your point of view is indicative of your objectivity. If you are indeed a writer with your own blog, I suggest you develop some thicker skin rather than try to launch a “scathing” attack on someone else.
If you wish to call SF out on questionable business practices, yet call me ignorant for pointing out that the UFC also has flaws then you are one of two things: Dana White’s illegitimate love child, or someone has very biased beer goggles on.
Have a great day, walking dictionary.
reality is a bitch
Deal with it
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by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
What does that even mean? Lol.
Was that some “reality” double-entendre by the Reality “jockey”?
Look chief, despite the fact that you called me ignorant, I’m willing to look past all that and just say that if you want to criticize one org for the way they do things, then you have to also apply that criticism to the competition if you want to give off a perception of being objective.
There’s some 1st year journalism for you.
JK. I don’t like holding grudges.
If the UFC
released a statement about “revenue” without mentioning expenses I’d point out the same thing.
Valid questions are not “hating”
I am the WAMMA Light Heavyweight Champion
by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, I do it all the time.
Enron used to release all sorts of revenue forecasts…
Only I would be dumb enough to pick a guy who couldn’t even beat his own wife in a fight agaisn’t a world class fighter like Nick Diaz.
Ok, RJ, I see your point, but you can't seem to see what I'm trying to say about the overall picture.
It’s cool holmes, as Ron Burgundy once said about San Diego being Spanish for a whale’s vagina:
“agree to disagree”.
There is no "overall picture"
You’re doing the usual “oh thats just SF hate” to cover any valid criticisms or questions.
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by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, even when someone says "let's quash this" you bear a grudge!
You really are thin skinned. Of course there’s an overall picture. You just choose to ignore it.
All I’m saying is that your pointing out a flaw in SF, yet not holding the UFC accountable for their flaws. You think they haven’t made their own positive press releases over in Dana world?
How about the fact that they didn’t want anyone knowing who the new 10% partner was that acquired a stake in the company?
How about Dana bitching about Fitch, but not stating the real reason was because Jon wanted a rightful slice of the pie for his own likeness in the game?
How about the fact that Dana went on record respectfully commenting about Coker and SF, and as soon as they acquired Fedor, started slandering SF’s financial position, and how he offered 10 times more but Fedor is a douchebag, and now SF is too, blah blah blah.
That is the overall picture. BOTH companies have their flaws, but considering the gloating that DW does, I would question his numbers as likely more inflated than anything Coker puts out.
All I’m saying is that your pointing out a flaw in SF, yet not holding the UFC accountable for their flaws.
I never mention the UFC. Neither does the article.
You brought up the UFC to have another way of brushing off valid questions about SF.
I didn’t even point out a flaw. I asked for some very basic info directly related to this article.
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by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, but maybe you can just say that next time right off the bat instead of:
“If you’re reading something related to revenue and profit without questioning the expenses… you are, by definition, ignorant”
Just sayin
Just gets old
When EVERY criticism or question gets rolled into “Why the SF hate?”
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by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Fair enough. But, on the flip side, perhaps you could be a bit kinder to SF.
It is a possibility is it not, if you’re catching flack for it?
Funny thing
I got banned from BE for questioning the baseless hype for UFC fighters…
and I was much less insulting about it there
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by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
So very, very true
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by Reality_Jockey on Feb 8, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Questioning UFC fighter's hype?
Wow and here i thought you were the biggest Zuffa troll on here.
"I'm not a mind-fucker...I'm an ass kicker"-Lesnar
free
Haven’t seen you on the pool threads. Couldn’t figure out why you’ve been missing until I saw your score.
LOL
dia mette!!! Shut up.
i havent been around the site much lately.
too much on my hands with new job.
As for the pool, don’t worry. You will end up below me at the end of the season.
Fedor.
That's more like it. Some trash talk.
What’s the new job? Still in TO?
Good luck with that, dude.
dia mette!!! Shut up.
the 2nd girl(blonde)
is the hottest. she walked by me at the fedor/werdum weigh ins.
smelled soo good!!!
30 million? not bad. coker livin better now, gucci sweater now
God is too big for just one religion...
UFC #1 Fan
smelled soo good!!!
only slightly creepy. slightly
Only I would be dumb enough to pick a guy who couldn’t even beat his own wife in a fight agaisn’t a world class fighter like Nick Diaz.
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