Trainer: Psychological technologies from the crowd influenced Fedor Emelianenko vs Antonio Silva Strikeforce fight
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Quoteworthy:
"It seems to us that all isn't this simple and certain technologies might have been used - certainly, not the ones that would be visible to an open eye. Most likely, they were psychological technologies that influenced both fighters from the distance of the crowd. For this reason Fedor simply wasn't himself during fight. Fedor's behavior was very strange to me, and he did exactly the opposite of what we have practiced and discussed before the fight. All of us were in shock! He has never done or behaved this way before. We will wait a week or so, for things to calm down and afterwards we will try to figure out what has happened. However, I might add that the loss has not broken his psychological stability and Fedor will be more than ready to return to the ring. Because of the loss, he is ready to rip apart his next opponents and we will be training three times as much."
Questionable stoppage? Check. Antonio Silva eating the scale after weighing in on it? Check. "Psychological technologies" from the crowd at the IZOD Center? Apparently the Emelianenko camp is ready to check that off as well. In fact, they believe that could be the main culprit in Fedor Emelianenko's crushing encounter with "Bigfoot" in New Jersey on Feb. 12 in the opening leg of the Strikeforce heavyweight grand prix. The former PRIDE kingpin has made a career out of his mental stability and unflappable nature but the IZOD arena occupants seemingly turned the historically stoic Russian into a raving madman. Perhaps his altered state is to blame for his premature retirement talk ... but what will they blame if he loses again? Survivors of psychological technology are encouraged to respond ...
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It's true
I knew he was under the influence of something during the stare down. I called the commission right then. Proceeded to get the run-around for the next 4 hours. Glad this is coming to light.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
Good lord...SMH.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth."
-Stephen King
Fedor is gonna get the blunt of the blame for all this nonsense.
This should be all the proof he needs to see what kind of poisoneous effect on his career. Then again it’s only us who care about his legacy and image. He has always been a money fighter and has not once in any interview ever said he wants to be the greatest ever or things he’s even that good.
BIG NOG for Life
One Step closer to Gleison Tibau @ 145
If the round is too close, it's 10-10, NOT flip a coin 10-9 or late takedown FTW.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Feb 16, 2011 3:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I have been holding this in...
Fedor is going to get all that he worked hard for ruined and tarnished by his management. All of them. I truly believe he wanted to retire after the Bigfoot fight. Fedor doesnt talk out of emotion. He is a very calm hearted and well spoken guy. He wanted to hang it up in a very classy way.
Then after everyone, all of his management says no, no he doesnt want too he was kidding, he was talking out of emotion. He is going to keep fighting. There not letting the guy retire. This is their cash cow. Their only bargaining chip, they have all eggs in one basket on this. And they know the window is closing.
M1 is absolutely horrible. Let the guy ride out and remain a legend. Dont ruin it for the guy. This hypnosis bull and the weight cutting shit there saying is so ridiculous. There scared, there fearful. Coker will laugh at a re negotiation, Dana is already laughing. Japanese MMA is all but dead. Where will they take him?
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
KSW ftw!!!
UFC Heavyweight Champ at years end...: Brock Lesnar
UFC Light Heavyweight Champ at years end...: Jon Jones
Maybe they are mad cause they just saw this top 10 HW list...
http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/02/16/mma-top-10-heavyweights-fedors-fall-continues/3#c33099860
lol
Anderson Silva is without a doubt the G.O.A.T. and best P4P to which there's no debate. People may try but they'll lose! GSP hasn't done what Silva has in 2 weight classes plus can't finish people in his own division who haven't moved up from LW. Fedor has less names on his padded resume and was once the top HW but then ducked the best and lost to a guy who was barely top 10. Anderson is the G.O.A.T. no matter what the haters who boo him say. They used to boo Ali too.
Alistair hasn't beaten anybody and Brock just lost easily to Cain so JDS has as much right to that spot as they do
At this point the rankings are meaningless until these guys actually fight though, we’ll know who is better out of Brock and JDS and who the legitimate #2 guy in the UFC is once they fight each other. Until then it’s all subjective.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
They weren't lieing though
look behind Silva!!!!!
The days as champ are done... but the juggernaut known as Brock Lesnar will return.
Holy shit.... It's not Mask is it?
Looks like this witchdoctor is summoning that strike from Silva! Good find man
Fitch is the only man alive that would make a knife fight go to a decision!
by John G. on Jan 20, 2011 1:35 PM EST
Not sure who should be at #2...
Brock did get destroyed but he did beat the unstoppable Carwin and JDS beat Roy who I don’t consider top 10 but then against Overeem just beat Todd Duffee who isn’t top 30! lol Dno’t think Rogers was ever really top 10 either so it’s hard to say.
Anderson Silva is without a doubt the G.O.A.T. and best P4P to which there's no debate. People may try but they'll lose! GSP hasn't done what Silva has in 2 weight classes plus can't finish people in his own division who haven't moved up from LW. Fedor has less names on his padded resume and was once the top HW but then ducked the best and lost to a guy who was barely top 10. Anderson is the G.O.A.T. no matter what the haters who boo him say. They used to boo Ali too.
Lol at Papa Shango
Props to whoever did that photoshop.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
his antics in the WWF at the time were nuts
making people puke for no reason, lighting people on fire….i dont doubt that he could mess up Fedor’s mind…
I'm not insane. My mother had me tested.
Nice.
LMAO!
" Its a good thing you look good in that suit, cos that's all you're gonna be doing - wearing a suit."
by dec3ptiKon_ on Feb 16, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
Agree
Who cares about the rankings, a few of these top guys are fighting against each other soon, let the fights decide the rankings instead of arguing about shit that is going to change soon.
Don't make sig bets with StrikerDave.
Exactly
I always get suckered into rankings arguments and then hate myself for it. TUF better not take too long, I want to see Junior and Brock fight. And Barnett and Overeem better not hold up this SF GP.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
so if kharitonov or barnett wins the whole tourney, where would that place him in your rankings
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
They'd be the top HW in SF in my opinion
It’s tough to rank those guys because they’d only be fighting one of the consensus top 4 in SF in the finals as all of the top guys are fighting each other in the earlier rounds but a win over the consensus top SF HW would have to put them in the top 3 at least.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
there is no way u place barnett or bigfoot top 3
because theyve finally faced decent opposition, guys in ufc face the best of the best on a regular basis..it doesnt take the ufc 1-2 years to finally make good matches like strikeforces tourney
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
Silva would have to beat Werdum/Overreem as well as Sergei/Barnett (or Rogers in theory but he won't beat them both)
That’d be better than anything Cain would have done in the last year, as he’s not fighting until the end of the year, and if Brock or JDS lose their next fight then they can’t be top 3 either. Like it or not the SF GP winner will have beaten 3 top guys and that’s more impressive than anything the current UFC HWs have lined up.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
by David W-S on Feb 16, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I still wouldnt feel good putting Bigfoot ahead of Cain. If its Werdum I will say easily he is the best HW in the world
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
I'd have either of them at top 2 at least if they win the tournament
Hard to rank them ahead or below Cain because we know that they’re never going to fight. It all really depends on how long Cain is inactive for, if Werdum or Silva win 3 big fights before Cain faces Brock/JDS then I’d have no problem with either of them being ranked at #1 instead of Cain.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
Exactly!!!
I think he wanted to retire with dignity. As you’ve said he never talked out of emotion yet the speech at the end of the fight was definitely one of those moments where you could tell that it wasnt the same old machine fedor. I just hope we dont see sickening push from M-1 for him to keep fighting on despite more losses and until they turn him into the circus act that Ali eventually became in boxing. He was pretty much all of M-1 and he will probably put up with some shit because he’ll feel like he owes the fink and co.
BIG NOG for Life
One Step closer to Gleison Tibau @ 145
If the round is too close, it's 10-10, NOT flip a coin 10-9 or late takedown FTW.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Feb 16, 2011 4:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah Dana and all his sentiments towards M1 was basically right on point.
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
They're all a bunch of lunatics
The comments made by Fedor’s management and camp have been nothing short of disgraceful, so much for the humble hero who doesn’t have a bad thing to say about anyone. Big Foot not only beat but outclassed and brutalised Fedor in a fight many thought that he had no chance of winning yet instead of getting given respect for his achievements he’s having his win overshadowed by the nonsensical ramblings of corrupt morons who refuse to accept that Fedor isn’t as good as he once was or how he’s been hyped up to be over the last few years.
Either Fedor is clueless about what these clowns are doing to his career or reputation or he’s in on all of this damage control, either way it’s laughable. The more M-1 talk the more they show up Fedor.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
Couldnt agree more
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
ANS - How about a fanpost on the technical errors during the Fedor fight?
I think a lot of people would appreciate what Big foot was able to do, the deficiencies of russian fighters/sambo due to the inexistence of a real guard, and just generally many of the fundamental grappling principles that were disregarded. I was just reading an ESPN article where Werdum was kinda shocked that Fedor didnt know a lot of these white belt fundamentals so i figured who better to contextualize it best for the masses than you. Whether it’s Fedor’s only escape from mount being a giant roll through to the lack of hip escape, etc…. just a thought.
BIG NOG for Life
One Step closer to Gleison Tibau @ 145
If the round is too close, it's 10-10, NOT flip a coin 10-9 or late takedown FTW.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Feb 16, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I can see what I can do there…
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 17, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
There is always the possibility that he doesn't want to go out on a loss like that.
That leaves a bad taste and he obviously a competitor 1st and foremost and may still feel he has some left in the tank.
BJ BJ BJ!!!
After the loss he said basically it may be time to quit. Nothing about fighting again or winning, etc.
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
In the cage right after the fight.
But with a clear head and some time to think maybe a different story?
BJ BJ BJ!!!
I think it was the first time we saw the human being Fedor not the fighter. I think he legitamately wanted to retire
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
I dont know if anyone has pointed this out
but something was lost in the translation and he was kidding about the technologies, it was a joke.
'How's taste my pee pee pee?'
I know you speak multiple languages closer
but r u sure of this? I do respect you and will take ur word for it, but I’ve heard he was serious and M1 is now doing damage control for this idiocy!
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
This is what I have read
In regards to Kogan’s "lost in translation tweet", I can assure you guys, there is NOTHING lost in translation. That is exactly what Voronov said in Russian.
This sparked a BIG debate on all Russian MMA forums, cause people call him nuts now.
More that that, Kogan wasn’t even there when Voronov said it, he was in Holland, and Voronov was in the Moscow’s airport. M-1 is trying to put some damage control crap, but those are Voronov’s words, nothing was "lost" or misinterpreted.
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
M-1 are full of shit
You can’t hide lunacy and corruption behind language. Every single one of them who has spoken so far has just made awful excuses and shown no respect to the better man. They pulled the same shit when Fedor last lost to Werdum and it’s sickening. And Coker is equally as bad for agreeing and encouraging them.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
I read that too
I personally feel it’s a 100% true quote, but obviously don’t speak russian. I remember closer saying he’s a multi language guy, but don’t know if russian was one of them
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
I am not fluent,
but have an understanding. It is true he said those words, but not in a serious manner. Only the man himself knows the truth I suppose and the tone he himself was using.
I would bet on it being no more than half serious, or else there is no way this man would be able to freely function and roam the streets, drive a car or even be part of society.
'How's taste my pee pee pee?'
cool
thanks bro. I trust u more than M1, and I have zero ability to understand any other language except limited spanish…ver limited
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
dude, i dont even know what to say! lol
i have a hard time believing that he was being serious….but who the fuck knows!
you're wrong ANs
they didn’t talk him out of it, they showed him a picture of his wife, bound and gagged and his daughter next to Ron Jeremy, he was easily ready to accept a fight with ANYONE!
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
I wouldnt doubt similar shady situations from those guys
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
oh, that wasn't a joke ANS
it’s sick and sad!
my site has been fucking down all day, the host says it’s a lot of sites…like I give a flying fuck about any other site, they sent my problem to a “level 4 technician.” what the fuck does that even mean is what I asked!
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
Threaten them. That usually works.
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
oh I did
ur funny and thats my M.O. Ur right, it always works!
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
props on the site Kev....just managed to check it out the other day!
hope all is well with the family……does your wife still catch you in a gogoplata everytime you jump in her guard? lol….much love!
fedor should somehow get away from M-1 and then write a book
i’d love to hear the truth behind some stuff
for instance, how badly he wanted to go to the UFC but M1 restrictions wouldn’t let him.
That would be a good read but...
he’d have to move to the states or somewhere cause they’d send their mob after him Hostel style.
Anderson Silva is without a doubt the G.O.A.T. and best P4P to which there's no debate. People may try but they'll lose! GSP hasn't done what Silva has in 2 weight classes plus can't finish people in his own division who haven't moved up from LW. Fedor has less names on his padded resume and was once the top HW but then ducked the best and lost to a guy who was barely top 10. Anderson is the G.O.A.T. no matter what the haters who boo him say. They used to boo Ali too.
I think that he's happy with M-1 and how they're managing him, which makes these comments even more pathetic
Fedor is a part of M-1, he’s not just a client he actually owns a stake in the business. I think that he knows exactly what is going on and he’s had no desire to ever sign with the UFC. He seems to be just as deluded as the rest of his coaching staff and management, otherwise why wouldn’t he have changed his training to improve or join the promotion that he wanted to? He’s not some impressionable kid who needs babying, he’s a grown man with decades of experience in the sport and he has a lot of money. I don’t think that he’s the innocent party that people imply he is, Fedor could quite easily tell these morons to stop making excuses but he never does.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
It pains me to say this but he did not act like he ever has before. But, to me it looked like a young fighter who just came off of a crushing KO and now they got happy feet.
To many times guys get tentative after a loss but every once in a while you see guys do what Fedor did and just totally blow their composure. Composure is what made Fedor who he is. Yes he has KO power and good grappling but his control over his mind and body is what set him apart, he lost his composure and who knows if he will ever get it back to the same level.
by Edgecrusher71 on Feb 16, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
you're right
he didn’t look technical or tactical. Age and weight has caught up with him, no excuses necessary, just life!
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
I agree 100%
Me - "Vitor is past his prime, A. Silva will knock him the f*ck out!"
Sittingbull - "Weak trolling man, and Vitor aint past his prime, you'll see tommorow night."
You know so much! Yeah, I saw didn't I?
Danago (aka Jesse) got his BJJ black belt from Shogun, he is currently 41-0 in professional mma. If you don't have a black belt, don't bother talking to him, because his mma knowledge is unparalelled to any of ours.
with ANS's original post
Me - "Vitor is past his prime, A. Silva will knock him the f*ck out!"
Sittingbull - "Weak trolling man, and Vitor aint past his prime, you'll see tommorow night."
You know so much! Yeah, I saw didn't I?
Danago (aka Jesse) got his BJJ black belt from Shogun, he is currently 41-0 in professional mma. If you don't have a black belt, don't bother talking to him, because his mma knowledge is unparalelled to any of ours.
What?…. You dont believe this?
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
it is only going to get better
Just wait a few hours and check back in.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.

This fight for the fish is a fight to the death!
by doonerthesooner on Feb 17, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
I'm buying it...
as much as I buy Jay being a straight guy with kids…or That OJR has an epic goatee (mine is almost 3 inches long right ow) or that Geno wears the pants in his relationship with an older woman with a kid, lol yeah, or that I got the woman I married… oh wait
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
by kevjack115 on Feb 16, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
or that Geno wears the pants in his relationship with an older woman
She calls him AniMal… I will guess he spends lots of time in the pants
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
lol
It goes back to another thread (before this gets out of control). I personally like Geno a lot and think he should do more op eds, his 1st one was really good! But I think Cr8 runs the relationship, nothing wrong with that, I need my wife to control me or I’d be a coked out scum bag with a bunch of whores (no wonder I openly Idol charlie Sheen…and my wife thinks it’s funny)!
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
Lol. I agree for the Opinion pieces. I think Geno should do more,.
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
Yes sir
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
yes BNF
it was good…and I picked him too. but really, Geno seems to write well, why not let him loose, he needs freedom somewhere! lmao
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
Haha I gave the AniMal some stick for that one
Props to him and Jesse for taking it in good humour. And agreed on Cr8 wearing the pants in the relationship.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
Man
you have no idea how much shit I took for that Vitor pick. I literally had people flooding my inbox with e-mails telling me I’m a hack and to stop making picks and stop writing opinions because clearly I’m not any good at it.
I mean, yeah, in hindsight, the pick sucked shit but don’t tell me it was written poorly. I worked hard on that fucker, I thought it was good. Thanks for the love and support fellas. It’s always good to get support from the boys. (When Jesse and I talk about the Maniacs, as opposed to calling you guys Maniacs, we usually call you “the boys.” Just so you know what I mean when I say that.)
Hopefully more op-eds coming. Maybe next time I won’t make a bold prediction that can totally blow up in my face. :)
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
At least someone noticed that. I picked both guys. So I was wrong… but right.
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe next time I won’t make a bold prediction that can totally blow up in my face. :)
No risk, no reward Geno. I thought your op-ed was great.
"If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions."
- Scott Adams
Truth.
I went out on my sword with that one. Blaze of glory.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
I also thought it was great. And by great I mean awesome
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
People emailed you and gave you shit about your OPINION? Don't waste your time with morons, Geno.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth."
-Stephen King
Yes, sir.
I’m a hack, they say. “Don’t do opinion pieces anymore dude. You clearly don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.”
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
In their defense I did try to warn you. Now granted I didnt email you saying “Stick to news or GTFO” or “Stupid NOOB you picked Vitor he sux! You Sux!”
But I did try and warn you haha
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Should have sent “ABB” pics in return
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Haha well at least I had the decency to make my "told you so" post public
And even though I disagreed with the prediction it was a good read. When you give an opinion before a fight there’s always the chance that you’re going to end up looking foolish, Robbie KO’g Melvin after I said that he had no chance on the feet was not one of my proudest moments. As long as you can take as much as you can give it’s all good.
It’s easy sending anonymous e-mails saying that someone was wrong but you deserve a lot more credit for being brave enough to make your opinion public and risk being wrong.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
Yeah, that's the breaks when you write for a site this big.
I was confident and it backfired. Ha. Even Tom hit me up after the fact and simply said.. “So when can I expect your Anderson Silva mea culpa?” Even the bossman gave me shit for it. Jesse told me I better not make a habit of it. 3 strikes and I"m out. 0 for 1 so far. Ha.
Hell, at this rate, my next piece should be — UFC 129: Why Jake Shields will smash Georges St. Pierre in 30 seconds with a superman jab death lock eye drop toehold
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
you had me worried there
I thought, no way Jake wins… unless he his the drop toehold!
"If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions."
- Scott Adams
I would advise you to do that more then I would have picking Vitor
:)
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Same
Even if the method is horrible Jake has more of a chance at beating GSP than Vitor had at beating Andy. As a fan I’m still worried about his conditioning though, I hope that bulking up to 185 hasn’t made the cut to 170 too difficult for him because at his best Jake could be the only real threat to GSP’s title.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
whatever dude
Well written and well reasoned.
If you go back and read the comments, I agreed with you.
I didn’t get a single email.
LOL
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said aarg" – GSP
by Scottidog on Feb 16, 2011 8:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
best part of this post
is this
the pick sucked shit but don’t tell me it was written poorly. I worked hard on that fucker, I thought it was good.
I feel it was written well, and enjoyed it, but just because u worked hard on it doesn’t necessarily mean it wasn’t written poorly. I’ve worked my ass of on some things, that ended up being written poorly while worked barely on things that turned out great. Let the regulars be the judge as to how ur shit comes out Geno, we’ll be honest, brutally sometimes! The fact that you got the pick wrong has nothing to do with just how well it was written. not to pat myself on the back, but it means a lot coming from me because I rarely compliment people, or actually put as much thought as I did into my opinion of your writing. Mania rarely has op eds, but they definitely chose the write guy to start allowing them!
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
i picked him too
a lot of people did – the pick didnt suck shit Andy is just that good… he just is – and vitor aint young like we used to see him charge across at wandy! Man keep the opinions up – ppl can get fucked if they dont like them and not bloody read it!
Love your work Geno always well written and an opinion can have its flaws in it at times thats what makes this site awesome. A difference in opinion and we need people to question the boundaries
Cheers mate
Fitch is the only man alive that would make a knife fight go to a decision!
by John G. on Jan 20, 2011 1:35 PM EST
By the way, let me clear this up… Cr8 does NOT run the relationship. In so much as, she lets me have equal say… for the most part… kind of…. sometimes… every now and again… when I’m good… and when she’s in a good mood… :)
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
just admit it, she squeezes the sack in the relationship geno
no shame in that
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
Haha! You are the British equivalent of ABB.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth."
-Stephen King
She's got him so tightly by the balls he's not even allowed to admit it
Even on Mania Cr8 bosses him around lol, poor Geno.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
geno, grab the woman by the labias and man up, your better than that
dont let cr8 hold the leash
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
Flagged. For not wearing the pants.
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
There's going to be a lot of flagging then haha
Most Mania husbands/bfs don’t wear the pants.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
well sometimes i wear her g-string, never the pants tho
only if its dirty tho
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
Kev apparently does. Not only does he wear them but he also barely fits in them being that companies dont make crotches big enough.
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
They just won’t admit it. She keeps me in line. Without her, I’d be running wild. I like our current set-up.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
Is running wild Geno = AniMal
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Haha I'm never going to get tired of calling Geno AniMal
Maybe he’s just a big ke$ha fan.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
Im changing to @intNO$un$hine
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
Ha.
Come one now, AniMal is the way it is because I like the way it looks and the represents my initials. That’s all.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
Me and @N$ are onto you Gene the AniMal
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
Until the day it stops annoying you I'll always mean Gene ;)
And come on Bull, us British lads need to stick together. We’re outnumbered by the yanks and bagged milk drinkers, we can’t turn on each other now lol.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
Canadians = British in denial
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
This thread turned out well
Lots of laughs.
Gene, I’m whipped too. You don’t have to be scared to admit it.
Don't make sig bets with StrikerDave.
Okay, you have had your fun, now get back to MMA...
Cr8 has spoken… so shake your tail AniMal! ;)
"Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance." - The Art Of War, Sun Tzu 孫子
Pursue excellence. Ignore success.
that is bad isnt it
geno better pull out ABB’s famous diesel powered dildo
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
"Yeah right. The man who singlehandedly killed ManBearPig is a loser"- Al Gore
one of those proud veiny bastards
with GPS, variable speeds and a kickstart.
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said aarg" – GSP
i prefer pull chord start myself
just seems more hardcore for a dildo. ive also heard of chicks putting dildos on drill presses, and squirting like juicy grape
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
"Yeah right. The man who singlehandedly killed ManBearPig is a loser"- Al Gore
kick start sets the tone better
It says “shit’s about to get real”
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said aarg" – GSP
its sets more of a "your gonna end up in the trauma unit" tone
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
"Yeah right. The man who singlehandedly killed ManBearPig is a loser"- Al Gore
nothing says lovin
like when a girl has to bring her own cock on the date.
k
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said aarg" – GSP
I definitely dont ANS
and will happily admit that Id probably be dead or in prison if I thought for myself! I was lucky enough to find a beautiful woman who sees through my bullshit, tries not to judge me, and most importantly puts up with me and all my bullshit. I’m one lucky guy, and that’s 100% the truth!
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
His Kev's wife.
how did you figure out his password to post here?
Don't make sig bets with StrikerDave.
so...wait a minute
is M1 actually saying that there was some dude using mind control in the crowd, causing fedor to lose?
that cant actually be what they’re saying…is it?
The guy said it, then another M1 guy said it was a joke. But the reporters who reported it dont do parodies, and they said he was serious in stating it.
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
As far as excuses go I give this one an A for creativity!
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Fedora just jumped to number one over Tito in the p4 p excuse rankings
by hexbreaker on Feb 17, 2011 12:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Haha, I do like how usually when something pretty assinine is said that deals with Fedor, people get up in a ROAAAR
But for the most part this thread hasn’t been absolutely shredding this trainer for the dumb ass statement he made. I think it is just to that level of absurdness that it just goes without saying. There are a few comments made but nothing like I expected.
by Edgecrusher71 on Feb 16, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
It was an ass beating... not hypnosis

Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
That pic makes me friggin sad
Most humble guy in sports. Fuck M1. Fucking mother fuckers.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
that IS sad. a broken down warrior, hero, approaching the twilight of his career. \
is that Vadim in the background there? Scowling as his gravy train has gotten derailed?
I didn't even notice
Look at Fedor, then look at Vadummy. That mother fucker is shady. Fedor, he looks a bit broken here (not even referring to the injuries), he looks like he could cry, which makes me want to cry (no homo).
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
nah I get you
He’s putting on a brave smile despite a second (and worse) loss.
Just seems like a real strong but humble dude.
What gets me is the looks that Vadim, the trainer, and that other suited guy are giving. It’s like..looks of shame and digust- all while Fedor is sporting the busted eye and the bruises around his neck from the choke/punches.
Hopefully those dudes aren’t really as shady as seem in that gif. That’d be a shame.
Doesn't get classier than that.
All smiles and nothing but praise for his opponent. Long live the Emperor.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
Funny how a man who still can't see out of his right eye could have continued and won the fight according to Coker and M-1
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
Wow
I wonder if there is a way the can test to see what was used…could have been voodoo? did big foot use the help of a warlock or wizard…wait a min, is big foot training with Harry Potter? wow Anderson has steven Seagal now big foot has Harry Potter!
I would love to hear what fedor has to say about this
Too bad we never hear him talk about the crazy shit m1 does
Oh well, if he wants to be like one of those dancing bears from the old russian circus, being led to and from the ring by his handlers…
It sucks such a great fighter cant make his own decisions. Ultimately it will be part of his legacy… Great fighter that allowed way too much freedom to his handlers.
The Red Eye Jedi Holds a 7th Degree Black Belt In BongHitsu
@ red eye jedi
Hey idk if you know any Ukrainians, but those fuckers are nuts! There’s a concentration of them here in NYC in a little section called Little Odessa..and the rumors fly around about the shit that happens there…idk how much of it is true, but the respected and known NON ukrainian street hustlers don’t cross into their turf!!! I say that to say this…you think there’s ANY chance those same guys don’t have their fingers in M-1? its probly worse than in boxing with the Mafia running certain fighters back in the ‘50s, ’60s & ’70s…I’m sure Fedor probly had an opinion about how his life was gonna be run for him, but I’m also sure has seen some shit to make him keep that opinion to himself!
by Fat Daddy Doobs on Feb 16, 2011 7:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's like when
Smokey said he had mind control over Deebo.
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
Or in Get Him To the Greek when Puffy teaches us all about “mind fucking”
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
I'm mind-fuckin' you right now!
God, I love that movie.
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
It was good
but a little too long. A lot of today’s comedies are trying to be 2 hours or so when they should really be about an hour and fifteen.
by Jon Estrada Sr. on Feb 16, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
Anything with Russell Brand is comic gold
And Diddy was awesome in that film.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
THERE IS ONLY ONE THING TO DO!!!
Fedor must leave M1, sign with the UFC for much less money than he would have got in 09, and then tear through the entire HW division and retire after he wins the belt.
by Jon Estrada Sr. on Feb 16, 2011 4:54 PM EST reply actions
A man can dream buddy...a man can dream
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
i dont know why but i think it's the cage
Put him in a ring and he will perform different, i think he doesnt even train in a cage.
Edson Barboza and Charles Oliveira are gonna stir up the pot at 155!
by robinhorobson on Feb 16, 2011 4:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions
agreed
everyone should be happy to see these reports coming out about how he is not retiring and is ganna work even harder. Every time we get to see mr emelianko compete its a privelage, honor, special, rare,
im just excited that he is coming back, there is no one I would rather watch compete than him
st peire, frankie edgar no thank you and i could care less.
Which is really stupid
Cro Cop didn’t train in the cage when he first joined the UFC either and look how that turned out. You train for the environment you are competing in, if you’re too proud or stupid to adapt your training then you’re going to lose. It’s not an excuse, just another example of Fedor’s training limiting his skills and success.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
Just add this to
the idiots on here screaming from their keyboards “Hurr it wuz fixxxxxxxed!!!” and “Fedor would’ve won if they fought the 3rd round!!”
I'm your huckleberry.
he totally would have won the 3rd round
In my mind, he already won. So really, he didn’t lose his last fight. Also, against Werdum, someone flashed a laser in his eye, so that loss doesn’t count either. He is still undefeated.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
lmao
who actually had him winning that 1st though…judges that were Fedor fans maybe!
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
I had it close, since Fedor ended up on top in that scramble I figured it would be a Fedor round
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
I thought two did?
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
Most definitely a competitive round but it was Fedor who came in on top.
Second was most defintely a 10-8.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
The Russians always had the best Cold War conspiracies though.
It’s like a reflex to them. Sill today.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character
-Tom Wolf
We were waiting for the whiskey and bong.
I’m seriously saddened by the people Fedor is aligned with.
Don't make sig bets with StrikerDave.
I was thinking of putting a fanpost up to try and draw him out
But I got a little too high. Might have to wait on this one for a bit.
Don't make sig bets with StrikerDave.
No we can't get a green thread
It’ll hurt my eyes. Damn you SD (SigDodger).
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
by David W-S on Feb 16, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
someone should seriously write a fanpost
i would, but my PHD in mmamania’ing would confuse too many people, and just the name sittingbull brings trolls around
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
ive thought about writing a good one
about the regulars, trolls, newbies and the lurkers (or something like that).
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
I'd like to read that Kev
It would be good stuff I’m guessing.
"If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions."
- Scott Adams
Huge Fedor fan that simply has to say...
I absolutely despise M1 … that is all smh
I prefer the explanation that Dana hacked into Fedor's subroutines
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
Y'know, disabled armbar.exe and set the punch capacitors to only 75%
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
Just like any other fedor tread FUCK FEDOR
There's no "I" in team but there is a "u" in cunt!!!
by malito3og3 on Feb 16, 2011 5:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
your comment sucks
but your signature is pure gold. Love me some Kenny Powers!
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
I don’t really bother wasting time on fedor i got a simple opinion on him and it speaks for itself
There's no "I" in team but there is a "u" in cunt!!!
by malito3og3 on Feb 16, 2011 5:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't get it man
What about this humble man makes you say “Fuck Fedor”. I think you mean to say Fuck M1.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
It has nothing to to with him being humble I respect that I thinks it’s just the who fedor Ora he had coming into the states it has nothing to do with not going to ufc I think just the way he was built up online for his battles overseas he gets state side beats a washed up Tim, ko arlovski (which pissed me off by the way) ko a over hyped Rogers and then loses to Werdum and Bigfoot Comon. I’ll admit he has impressive wins over some notable opponents in pride but I never bought in to the whole Greatest of all time. If he’s the last emperor then I feel sorry for the kingdom that’s about to be brought down (m1)
There's no "I" in team but there is a "u" in cunt!!!
by malito3og3 on Feb 16, 2011 5:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think your hate is misguided though man
Fedor has never claimed any of that stuff. He has never said he was the greatest, quite the contrary actually. He never did anything but demolish everyone in his way. Not saying you have to think he is the greatest, that is all opinion and no one can tell you that yours is wrong, but saying fuck this guy for the reasons you mention seems misguided to me. Fuck his fans. Yes. Fuck M1, yes. Fuck him for not coming to the UFC, sure. But fuck the man himself? No one could ask for a better champion, in any sport.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
by Deuce02 on Feb 16, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
guess I didn’t look at it all the way threw while I have a strong dislike for him I guess your right in some points while I don’t agree all the way and I have my views on him yeah stupid fedor and FUCK U M1
There's no "I" in team but there is a "u" in cunt!!!
by malito3og3 on Feb 16, 2011 5:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
better
You have your opinions and I have mine, but I think Fuck M1 is much more appropriate.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
Fedor win or Lose should man up like gegard and do his own thing tho
There's no "I" in team but there is a "u" in cunt!!!
by malito3og3 on Feb 16, 2011 5:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
true
but the whole M1 thing is complicated. I will certainly rip the man for going into business with those assholes, but, technically he is a shareholder in the company, so it isn’t clear cut on what his options are/were.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
The fact that he's a shareholder makes me question the idea that he's this clueless unknowing victim
Personally I think Fedor knows exactly what M-1 are doing and what his representatives are saying to the media and in negotiations. There’s no proof of course but I don’t think he’s an innocent party caught up in all of this mess and if he is he’s incredibly naive for a wealthy 34 year old with 35 MMA fights and years of experience in MMA and sambo.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
An emperor rules over an empire.
You have one Englishman, what do you have? An idiot.
You two Englishmen, what do you have? A club.
You have three Englishmen, what do you have? An Empire.
-An old German joke (I think) heard in a movie.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character
-Tom Wolf
2 World Wars, 1 World Cup
And I like Germany but had to bring up some English nationalism to even the score. And it only took 3 of us to expand our empire to Canada and you’re still part of our Commonwealth. Rule Britannia, God save the Queen.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
It was in good humour of course.
A poem of sorts.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character
-Tom Wolf
As was my English nationalist rant lol
The country wars on here are always funny. And after the World Cup we have no right to bash the Germans, they slaughtered us.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
They have a lot of practice slaughtering...
too soon?
"I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious."-Michael Scott
thats great reasoning
my hero arlovski keeps getting smashed and i hate the world
how do you feel about werdum who bitch slapped the snitzchel
AA not my hero I was just rooting for him he lost I got mad and end subject I dealt with the bashing and mand up and took my loss
There's no "I" in team but there is a "u" in cunt!!!
by malito3og3 on Feb 16, 2011 5:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
understandable
AA was on a hot streak. Many people thought he had the tools to beat Fedor that night.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
I lost more then watching him lose I threw a full beer can down when he got knocked out reflexes and a party foul damn
There's no "I" in team but there is a "u" in cunt!!!
by malito3og3 on Feb 16, 2011 5:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I wont make a big deal about this..
but I was kicked out of bloodyelbow.com for saying that M1 was destroying this guys career and making it preceive as hes taking the pussy’s route out. They banded me before I was able to clairify that M1’s management was at fault for this, and not Fedor the fighter himself.
Anyways, M1 is showing their true colors and Im glad to say I’m right. I feel sorry for Fedor the fighter. If I was a betting man, Id say hes in deep with the russian mob and/or M1’s pockets and has no was out as of yet.
Getting kicked out of places seems to be a trend in your life, Jesse Taylor.
BJ BJ BJ!!!
by BNF on Feb 16, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Oh Duhhhhh.
JT Money, from TuF…..
right, right, gotcha,
lol
by Jesse Taylor on Feb 16, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
and you are free to express your opinions without fear of getting banned
But, if we disagree, you will get an earful from other posters, which is how it should be. Welcome new guy.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
You bet I'll be stickin
Good stuff here
by Jesse Taylor on Feb 16, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
welcome to Mania Jesse
"If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions."
- Scott Adams
You won't get banned
But argue with ABB and you might get boned.
Trust me, you don’t want to know what that means.
Don't make sig bets with StrikerDave.
Nice I got kicked out for laughing that faber lost
There's no "I" in team but there is a "u" in cunt!!!
by malito3og3 on Feb 16, 2011 5:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They are supper sensitive over there. They dont take smack talk about their fav fighters. Little one sided for sure. Nature of a blog I guess.
by Jesse Taylor on Feb 16, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
I could say either of these things and they would both be perfectly acceptable
1. Hey new guy….fuck you!
2. Hey new guy….welcome!
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
Hahaha, nice. Thank you, and fuckyou too!
by Jesse Taylor on Feb 16, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
that was the only appropriate response
you are catching on.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
OJ called,
he’d like to get his doorman’s job back.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character
-Tom Wolf
That’s the only way i start off a conversation. By either saying hey mother fucker or what the fuck you want if your to damn sensitive we don’t need talk then I’ll jus tell you to hang up your purse and I like your dress
There's no "I" in team but there is a "u" in cunt!!!
by malito3og3 on Feb 16, 2011 5:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
MMAMania….the place to come when you have taken that fucking dress off.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
looks like BE is getting worse
I got kicked for saying that they should stop riding Joe Doerksen’s dick and that would get submitted by CB Dolloway.
Edson Barboza and Charles Oliveira are gonna stir up the pot at 155!
by robinhorobson on Feb 16, 2011 5:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lol. And the surprising thing is all the bias over there.
Just look at most of the Fedor threads lately on the other side.
Pathetic.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
Dont even want to.
I think BE is paid by M1….
Now there is a conspiracy to run with! Go!
by Jesse Taylor on Feb 16, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Haha what a joke
Yet again BE bans someone for disagreeing with them, laughable. Welcome to Mania Coco the Monkey :).
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
M1 certainly does not take losing well.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 16, 2011 5:11 PM EST reply actions
Bigfoot probly told him "if there’s a 3rd round you are going to sleepy sleepy sleepy when the bell rings u will close your eyes "
There's no "I" in team but there is a "u" in cunt!!!
by malito3og3 on Feb 16, 2011 5:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions
i was there and tht doc stoppage sucked ass
Bigfoot was so tired after not being able to put Fedor away in the 2nd. Fedor had a good chance in winning a 3rd against a gassed Bigfoot.
by johnnysmash on Feb 16, 2011 5:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Might be true
But honestly, I didnt have a problem with the stoppage. Its only medically fare and safe practice.
by Jesse Taylor on Feb 16, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe when the day comes
That they have little mini x-ray machines and can see that there is no orbatal breakage, but till then, its only safe.
by Jesse Taylor on Feb 16, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
even if there was no broken bones in his face
the fact that he cannot see out of his eye still poses a serious problem.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
Fighters have fought through worse.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 16, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
Give me an example of a time someone had an eye injury worse than that and were allowed to continue….I honestly can’t think of one.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
Doesn't have to be a worse eye injury.
What I’m saying is fighters have fought through worse injuries.
If his eye was worse (broken orbital), than yes, they should have stopped it. But a closed eye doesn’t automatically mean you call the fight. Traditionally it’s up to the fighter/corner.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 16, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
news to me
I have always been under the impression that if you can’t see, you can’t fight, which is why the fight always gets stopped if the eye is closed up, or if blood is getting into the eye.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
You are right Deuce
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
Just watch the GSP/Koscheck fight for an example.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 16, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
That fight should have been stopped. Very irresponsible of ref and doctor… and corner to allow that fight to go on
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
Point is they let the fight go on.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 16, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
But it was the worst possible decision to do so. They were spot on with Fedor. Just because someones made the wrong choice doesnt mean we keep doing it.
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Koshchecks eye, IMO, wasnt quite as bad
There was a more bulbous swelling in fedors eye I seem to remember.
by Jesse Taylor on Feb 16, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
Since Fedor didnt go to the hospital I doubt we will know which was worse
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
I defintely think Fedor's was worse.
It was completely swollen shut. Not to mention it looked 10 times as grotesque.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
I defintely think Fedor's was worse.
Although someguys tend to swell different than others. That aside, he got his ass kicked.
The taste of blood......beautiful.
by Leaking Wound on Feb 16, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
It finally proves that.....
Fedor dodged good competition all along.
The taste of blood......beautiful.
by Leaking Wound on Feb 16, 2011 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
rofl.
I give up.
Definitely am outnumbered here.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 16, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
no, you aren't brother
I am disagreeing with you about the stoppage. Not about Fedor’s legacy.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
Dude stop trolling!
Didnt i get through your easy bake oven head on the other thread?
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
you love to use the word "trolling."
who the fuck r you? if you want to make a name for urself or get noticed, make decent points and quit calling people here on mania trolls you fucking douche. no one knows who u are, and we notice people based on the information and/or level of knowledge (good points) brought into a conversation, not name calling or saying people are trolls. as far as most of us are concerned, ur a nobody who has yet to offer anything of substance to a conversation here!
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
Go suck jay's dick more you imbecile.
You are good at that.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
hey hey hey if anyones gonna be sucking any dick here
its gonna be you
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
Says the guy with "cum on my face?"
In his sig.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
yea i honor my bets bitch
just like the one i made about giving your mom the worst anal experience shes ever had
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
bitch is what in her 40's and shes wearing depends already
theres a reason for that chorongota
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
Wont bother with an imbecile like yourself.
You clearly dont add to anything and are just looking to bash other posters.
Fuck you too homeboy.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
You should stop...
you are embarrassing yourself. Seriously. Stop.
The taste of blood......beautiful.
by Leaking Wound on Feb 16, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
lmao
I disagree with Jay more than anyone, nice try though
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
Yet you love sticking up for him.
Go suck him off loser.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
Who was sticking up for me?
Kev wasn’t on that thread and he doesn’t read threads with more than 40 comments on them (too many words hurt his head LOL).
He dislikes you on your own merits. You stick out like a cock in a lesbian movie. Nobody knows that I spotted you as the dick head you are. I want my credit actually for finding you first.
Kev probably likes you a bit because you hate me.
Don't make sig bets with StrikerDave.
You are not worth hating on.
I pity you.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
I saw the thread Jay...
today though, but normally ur right, i don’t go into big threads too much anymore, over 100 comments here on mania usually means not too much mma talk
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
Fuck are you smart.
Keep it up Dick.
The taste of blood......beautiful.
by Leaking Wound on Feb 16, 2011 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
how many people have you pissed off so far on here?
take the hint buddy and fuck off
I'm not insane. My mother had me tested.
Yeah cause......
you said…..
Your screen name should be Leaking Ass.
Go change it rite now!
And I said…
Your name derives from – Choronga – Salvadorian slang term for penis. I guess it takes one to love one.
Fuck you.
Yeah you really won that one. Fuck you loser.
The taste of blood......beautiful.
by Leaking Wound on Feb 16, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
I don't need to troll you....
cause you haven’t made one good point on this website yet.
The taste of blood......beautiful.
by Leaking Wound on Feb 16, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
Well im glad you learned something today.
Coming from a Zuffa zombie like yourself that means nothing.
Get bent dick weed.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
A Zuffa Zombie......
hahahahaha. Seriously. The UFC offers nothing? Come on you pathetic piece of shit. Wake the fuck up. Go watch fuckin’ tennis little boy.
The taste of blood......beautiful.
by Leaking Wound on Feb 16, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
Go troll other Fedor threads
You pathetic waste of space.
Your opinion means nothing to me. I wont respond to your lame ass again.
Peace bitch.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
I want to be the first troll hunter
I can pick them out from a mile away. I pegged this Chorongota guy as a kid looking to bother fans of a sport without ever adding to a conversation.
I can spot an asshole from a mile away. <——Make fun of that comment all you want.
Don't make sig bets with StrikerDave.
takes one to know one huh jay?!
I only noticed because you and he were going at it, if not I wouldn’t have noticed because I rarely read comments not from regs anymore…or u get caught up with guys like this!
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
he may be going for most posts though
he’s in every thread.
go to sherdog where you can get a belt which equals auto respect!
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
Lol and the dick sucking continues.
Fucking lame.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
u sure are bro
just get some humility and admit ur new here, then join a conversation rather than call people trolls.
u realize this site has a tight knit group of guys that have actually travelled to events together.
lastly, Im far from an internet tough guy, I’d say all of this to ur face just as easily as I type it (actually I type slower)
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
I call em like I see em.
If you dont like it, too bad. Loser.
Anyways you three idiots are clearly a waste of time, so I wont bother with you guys at all ever again.
laters faggots, i pity you guys :)
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
thans for pitying me
tonight while ur cleaning ur room because ur mom is upset it’s messy again, I’ll be fucking a hot latina and spending time with a real family. you know why…because I’m a loser! oh and while you’re watching MMA on ur 26" tv, ill be deciding which events I go to live because again, I’m a fucking loser. it really does suck being me!
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
Sure whatever makes you feel better.
Dont ever reply to me ever again.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
oh ok, I won't
you don’t reply to me either
i can keep this up all day, and guarantee youll keep responding even after I said this!
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
Think whatever you want.
I could care less what a mediocre internet warrior lik yourself thinks.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
Name the place, time.
The taste of blood......beautiful.
by Leaking Wound on Feb 16, 2011 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
"sticking up for jay?"
no, im calling you out for calling anyone and everyone a troll, when uve garnered zero respect from us! Show us you know something, then maybe we’ll stop, but asking ANS “what he trains” shows the level of ignorance we r dealing with!
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
Kos was blinking the entire time
He could still see, and that is the major difference.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
They plainly said he couldn't see.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 16, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
hmm
Do you think it was a good idea for him to fight like that? Maybe I just assumed the rules were same from boxing, considering it is the same commissions. No sight, no fight.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
It should be that way
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
Kos could have permanently lost his sight by continuing in that fight, whilst he showed great heart to continue despite not being able to defend himself properly (if you can’t see then you can’t attack or defend) his corner, the ref and the doctors were negligent to let him continue.
Stopping Silva-Fedor was the right call, Fedor still couldn’t see out of his right eye for days after the fight so why let him continue? And why would he suddenly do better in the last round when he can’t even see? The more I read excuses from Fedor’s camp and fans the more I question their sanity.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
Seeing had little to do with that. If the orbital bone was broken he could have been permanently blinded, and career over
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
No, it had everything to do with it.
The rules state that if you can see, you can fight.
If you dont see, its over.
Koshceck had a little sliver of sight left, which is why is was allowed to continue. He even called out the right number of fingers in the corner.
by Jesse Taylor on Feb 16, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
I meant the closing of the eye isnt as bad as possibly having a broken orbital. I was talking of the severity of why it should be stopped.
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
The doctor wanted to stop it but got pushed aside like an annoying hobo.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character
-Tom Wolf
Fill is on an example? And closed eye with that swelling often means broken orbital.
It was an Awesome stoppage. I was extremely happy a doc/ref made a great call
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
How do you determine what is under the swollen eye in the ring?
You cant, hence, why they stop the fight for an x-ray.
by Jesse Taylor on Feb 16, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe true. Broken hands (Faber). Broken forearms (Franklin), etc.
But there is just something more dangerous to me when you cant judge depth perception or see strikes coming from that side of your body.
I honestly dont remember many eye’s that have been like that or worse that have been allowed to keep fighting. Course, I could be wrong.
by Jesse Taylor on Feb 16, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
Wasnt as bad. Faber can still mount offense and defense. As could Franklin. Truthfully Fedor could muster some offense and very little defense
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
"Truthfully Fedor could muster some offense and very little defense"
Calm down dude its not like he was blind or anything. He has been through worse.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
Really when? When was he blinded in one eye?
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
Suplexed on your neck by a NCAA monster of a man.
Or getting rocked by a 240 lbs wrestler that benches over 400.
Those are pretty bad.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
Ironically never lost composure, was never in any danger where he couldnt see, etc
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
Broken ribs against Randleman.
And was out on his feet against fFujita.
Idk if you have ever been rocked but you cant see for shit.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
Untrue. I see just fine, now I often cant get a stable base because my legs are weak. But I Can see just fine. Sometimes my reaction time is slower because I am dazed. And I never knew he had broken ribs but then again I would rather have broken ribs then no eye sight.
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
You have a good last point.
What do you train?
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
In MMA? Everything, well no I lie. Wrestling, jiu jitsu, muay thai, kickboxing, boxing. I wish I did more Judo though.
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
lmao
I thought u said uve been reading mania for a long time. you just proved ur 100% full of shit. anyone who has read mania just a little knows who ANS is and where (what) he trains…he trains UFC you moron!
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
Wrong I fixed it for you
he tranes UFC you moron
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
I'm telling you this kid is fucked
We gotta ban this kid and everyone that lives within a mile of his house.
Don't make sig bets with StrikerDave.
Haha youre a sad pathetic old man jay.
If you do have a family, i honestly feel sorry for them.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
Keep saying you feel sorry for people or you pity them.
People will think you’re the shit.
Have a nice day, son.
Don't make sig bets with StrikerDave.
lol
thanks ANS. I just found it ironic that a guy that has been here “for a long time” asked you what u train
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
I dont know him or didnt know any of what he said. I just wanted to give the guy an answer. Should have gone with “train UFC” though. Or Cage fight.
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
he's been trolling for a few days now
I don’t post as much as I used to, but at least I offered opinions when I had the time. his go to thing is calling people trolls
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
Lol kev jack your pathetic!
Hop off my dick son!
Goes for you too jay. If you dont like me then dont fuckin reply to me! that simple.
And I only read the articles, never bothered wit the comments because I knew the type of mindless idiots that post here.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
your like a little dingleberry that just wont wipe away
go to BE
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
Haha
Know i see why everyone over there complained about this site.
Bunch of 40 year old trolls. I honestly pity you idiots.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
or in easier terms
your like the herpes on your moms twat..just cant shake it
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
DOne with you. Your whore mother should of aborted you.
Bye.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
typical
you know, the guy everyone dislikes, but he thinks it’s all of them and not his trolling ways, ur right, we are ALL making it up!
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
but if she aborted me
i would have never been able to give you so many little brothers and sisters..how bout this, i know your jealous that im stuffing your mom like a christmas ham, i’ll save some of her vagina chip crusted panties just for you ok man
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
i scraped the white nasty shit from her panties
and told her it was coke, just so i could get my pussy fix
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
funny thing is
I don’t even know who sitting bull is and he can smell the troll too!
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
I can spot them within 5 posts.
I nailed this kid on the first thread I’d ever seen him on. I’m fucking gifted.
Don't make sig bets with StrikerDave.
careful Jay
Don’t say that too loud. The Russians will think you have mind powers!
"If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions."
- Scott Adams
HAHA
Even I don’t like to joke around about M1, you know you’ve crossed a line here, Dak.
Don't make sig bets with StrikerDave.
yeah
and he pities us! what does that mean? we are just MMA fans who happen to come online to chat, we have families and r happily (sometimes) married men. I know I have a great job, and assume you do too. I personally pity the guy at the freeway exit begging for spare change, and I barely pity him, this douche must be Mark Cuban or something!
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
You always think I'm weird for arguing with these kids.
They can be really annoying.
Don't make sig bets with StrikerDave.
dude i just dropped a hammer
and it smelled just like your mommas sheets. that whore loves her anal
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
sb
This was what I meant when I said you have no tact.
You can be banned just as easily as that guy. Gotta use better ways to tell him he’s an asshole.
Don't make sig bets with StrikerDave.
Troll etiquette
is to ignore them and not hi-jack almost an entire thread with childish arguing. That’s the quickest way to make it stop. That way we can go back to talking about MMA.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
yeah jay has tried
he can’t help calling these guys out. He trolls the trolls that troll
'How's taste my pee pee pee?'
i rape trolls
and lock them underground in my secret hideout ala the lovely bones
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
You guys are hilarious. Just engage the funny trolls. Leave the angry ones alone.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth."
-Stephen King
Classy website this one.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
haha your an idiot
do you even go on the main page of Mania, or just jump into threads to bash people??
go read ANS’s write ups and you will see exactly what type of knowledge this guy brings to these discussions.
I'm not insane. My mother had me tested.
He has been through worse.
??No I think this is the worst beating Fedor has taken
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Easily
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
There have been tons of boxing matches
Like any of the last Manny Paquiou (sp) fights.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 16, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
Which also should have been stopped earlier as well. Another irresponsible decision
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
Then change the rules!
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 16, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
There is no rule. Its a judgement call. And in kos/gsp and Pac/Margarito fight… they made the wrong call. In the Fedor fight they made the right one.
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
There is a reason they let it up to the fighter/corner.
Much like the same way they leave it to the corner to throw in the towel when a player is getting hammered and refuses to go down.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 16, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
That is totally wrong. 100% wrong. It should NEVER be up to the fighter or corner
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
but one would think if they won't let you fight from the onset without vision in both eyes, common sense would dictate that they won't let you continue with vision in only one eye
NAC 467.017 Effect of age, experience and physical condition on issuance or renewal of license to engage in unarmed combat.
2. The Commission will not issue or renew a license to engage in unarmed combat to an applicant or unarmed combatant who is found to be blind in one eye or whose vision in one eye is so poor that a physician recommends that the license not be granted or renewed. This rule is effective regardless of how good the vision of the applicant or unarmed combatant may be in the other eye.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
Also
If this is not a rule, please tell me why the Dr. is always holding fingers up to fighters to verify that they can count them. If this isn’t a rule, why even bother with this exercise? I am honestly curious to find out the correct answer here.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
I believe you are right Deuce
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
@deuce02
While I can’t state the rules verbatim, I was heavily involved in boxing when I was younger in several different capacities, I trained, sparred, competed, and even cornered for a few guys. The doctor will do several things immediately if he suspect a broken orbital or any other damage. 1st and this is barely noticable bcuz its so fast and sometimes unnecessary or impossible given the amount of swelling, but the doc will actually run his fingers over the surface and press into the swollen area to feel for a break in the bone, the penlight to the eyes and the fingers being held up is to check if the eye isn’t being obstructed by the swelling, and to get an indication of whether there is any blurred vision which is indicative of RETINAL damage. THAT’S the main fear, soft tissue damage, bones heal, retinas terrify the fuck out of boxers! I got my orbital fractured it felt like FIRE and can swell in some gruesome fucking ways! Google “fernando vargas eye” and you’ll see one of the greatest swell jobs I’ve ever seen!
by Fat Daddy Doobs on Feb 16, 2011 7:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Good post
Retina damage is the worst, Belcher almost had to retire because of it and Scott Junk from TUF 10 did. The problem is even worse in MMA than boxing because of the threat of eye pokes with the open handed gloves. Broken bones and swelling can heal but a detached retina can’t and it’ll affect your sight for the rest of your life.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
Scary Stuff for sure
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
i wouldve assumed so, but...
There have been more retirements in boxing due to that recently..I would’ve assume due to the smaller gloves and your point with the fingers in addition to the FUCKING KICKS! That MMA participatant would be in more serious danger, but its looking like a boxer’s target zone is only 50% of the whole body, and a full 50% of the boxers target zone IS the head. MMAs overall target zone may be sparing repeated blows to the face? Except obviously on the GnP, And when those big kicks come, they normally don’t land back to back? Plus the abbreviated rounds in MMA saving wear & tear? Can’t call it, but those fucking busted orbitals hurt like a bitch! I never liked Koscheck, but after that GSP eye sniping/beating I had a new respect for him bcuz I KNOW that shit HURT!! Same props for Fedor too for showing no quit too!
by Fat Daddy Doobs on Feb 16, 2011 9:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Funny
I didn’t realize they broadcast these things in braille. Did you see his fucking eye dude?
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
I watched this fight in braille
I was the only other guy besides that one judge that scored that first round for Silva.
Don't make sig bets with StrikerDave.
Fedor was as gassed
if not more so, and he was beaten and battered. Give it up.
I'm your huckleberry.
Fedor was not as gassed as Silva.
I’d bet my life on that. If not for the simple fact he doesn’t have to carry as much weight and has traditionally had a great gas tank.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 16, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
Thats an assumption/opinion. I too thought Fedor was just as gassed. And weight has little to do with it.
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
He was wobbly after the second when he headed back to his corner anyway
He took a beating and when the doctor called the fight he didn’t put up a struggle, he was pretty much done the retirement speach was also another sign.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Good stoppage.
But who are you to say he didnt protest the stoppage?
Bigfoot didnt know he had won till 45 seconds after the fight had been waved off. And Feedor speaks Russian. I really doubt he knew what was going on.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
He made zero mention of it. And he knew what was happening. You think just because he speaks Russuan he doesnt know whats happening?
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
His corner informed him right away and when the ref waived his hands it was a clear indicator he was stopping the fight
Silva didn’t know because he didn’t see the doctor or ref he was getting worked on in his corner and getting instructions from his coach’s.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Same could be said about Fedor corner. Not once did i see him take notice of anything around him.
I think we are all making too many assumptions.
You two much more than I am ;)
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
Bottomline is Fedor knew what was happening.
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
You cant assume that. And even if he protested it would have been useless. The Doctor and ref always have the final word.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
I do know that. Its part of the refs/doctors job. Its like you cant call a foul or throw a penalty flag and not say why you did it. I will guarantee you either the doc or ref let Fedor or someone who translated to Fedor know what was happening.
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
The ref waving his arms and the bell ringing was a bit of a give away that the fight was over
Those are universal signs of a fight being stopped so the language barrier is a moot point. And Fedor had no right to complain about the stoppage, his camp have even said that he still can’t see out of his right eye so how could he continue fighting with limited vision?
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
This is a pic of me during Fedor's ring entrance
I can’t believe it worked!
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said aarg" – GSP
You son of a bitch!
Prepared to have your house stormed by 100,000 internet dweebs!
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
Nope
It’s really more like 6 internet dweebs posting under 30 names because they have no friends.
Nothing Ever Changes When Nothing Ever Changes
I do have friends,
I don’t have as many as 30 accounts and there are more than six of us internet dweebs just on here. Just beware man, we are ruthless.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character
-Tom Wolf
annoying quotes on this site!
This is funny… but I find it very frustrating that this site often quotes people without clearly identifying who they are quoting…. How can you do that… it loses my interest if you just randomly say some ridiculous statements in quotation marks without identifying who said it.. For all we know, it is some dumb-ass towel boy in Fedor’s gym, and we are judging Fedor based on these stupid comments. I agree that Fedor’s management is a bunch of communist retards, but that’s this blog post has very little credibility…
PS – Fedor got wooped… no excuses/explanations… Silva was just the bigger, stronger, better fighter that day. period. Silva won both rounds easily – watch it on mute without those dumbass Strikeforce comentators in your ear if you don’t agree (I hate those idiots). They were over reacting everytime Fedor swung his arm, but most of those wild punches missed by a mile. Whereas Silva landed several clean punches, and took Fedor down.
I think there are many heavyweights mma fighters that could do the same to fedor easily… However, having said that, he is still dangerous against any of those fighters on any given day (he has a good punchers chance). He’s got good power in his punches, and an amazing instinct to finish fights (KO or subs).
But Silva played it safe and smart, didn’t let one of Fedor’s wild/powerful looping punches to land on his chin, and controlled the entire fight. The referee stoppage was nothing but a convenience for Fedor.
Now shut up and retire Fedor, or go fight a real HW MMA fighter…
Agreed with everything but your last point.
He did just fight a HW fighter….SUPER HW actually, and lost.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
sorry – I should have said “relevant/top” HW fighter…
I think Silva may have potential to be good. He just hasn’t yet proved it against anyone notable.
And Fedor’s last loss was to UFC scraps… A good JJ fighter, but not a top fighter.
UFC scraps is a bit harsh.
Werdum was in line to fight for the title, until JDS brutally and epically knocked him. He had TKO wins from Vera and Gonzaga.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
agreed
ufc hate..guy subbed the best hw in the world and still doesnt get the respect, if it was lesnar or cain that had beat him we wouldnt hear the end of it
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
"Yeah right. The man who singlehandedly killed ManBearPig is a loser"- Al Gore
by sittingbull on Feb 16, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
harsh?
Werdum got cut from the UFC for losing fights… Is that true or not?
I’m not saying he is a bad fighter… but he’s not a top-notch fighter. And neither is Silva… And both of them beat Fedor. So correct answer to that equation is??
Fedor is good, exciting, has done a lot in his career, should keep going, etc etc… But those web warriors that have been sitting around forums over the past 5 years arguing that Fedor is “the best fighter ever” need to now go out and find a hobby… Or a new fascination…
good points chorongota
I knew u had it in u, and see how easily it was noticed!
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
I thought I knew MMA until I met Two_Words"
Russians are well known for their researches and advances on parapsychology
So, much of them really believe on it, and as many of us don’t believe on it or anything, doens’t means this is just crazy nonesence coming from them, we never know.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING !?!?? Can we please get a name from which this brilliant quote came from? They are seriously blaming psychological technologies for Fedor’s loss? If I was Fedor I would cut all ties with everyone in his camp after reading this stupid fucking bullshit.
"Generally speaking, the Way of the warrior is resolute acceptance of death" - Miyamoto Musashi
I believe it
My uncle is a hypnotist and this shit is real. You guys might think this is a joke but I kid you not hypnosis works especially well on the strong minded aka fedor. This really is a valid explanation for what we saw last saturday.
and god said to abraham "you must get melvin manhoef to deal with these bitches"
Please tell me you're joking Mr Duck
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
I'm dead serious. My uncle has hypnotized me a couple times, it's real man really real.
and god said to abraham "you must get melvin manhoef to deal with these bitches"
by theoregonduck on Feb 16, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
The sad thing is some people seriously believe this crap lol
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
It's real David.
But just for certain type of highly suggestive people. It can even be used in medicine as anasthesian. No shit.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character
-Tom Wolf
yes and through mind powers from some Cris Angel type in the crowd who hates Fedor
'How's taste my pee pee pee?'
Now of course that is far fetch. But funny though.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character
-Tom Wolf
i got hypnotized once, i woke up with cum all over my jeans and an old man licking his lips
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
oh yeah i've been hypnotized with roofies before too
and god said to abraham "you must get melvin manhoef to deal with these bitches"
by theoregonduck on Feb 16, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
i think you were hypnotized by ABB
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said argh" – GSP
by Rampagelangford on Feb 16, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
no it was my father. BAM!
and god said to abraham "you must get melvin manhoef to deal with these bitches"
by theoregonduck on Feb 16, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
ahaha man
daddys got eyes to dream of.
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said argh" – GSP
by Rampagelangford on Feb 16, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
and a cock that treats bad boys well
and god said to abraham "you must get melvin manhoef to deal with these bitches"
by theoregonduck on Feb 16, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
ahaha
its cool to think know that you guys from a different continent have the same sense of humour as us scone tea drinkin british people sometimes.
Also I HATE BISPING,I was the only one booooing him at ufc 120!
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said argh" – GSP
by Rampagelangford on Feb 16, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
ps i have great teeth
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said argh" – GSP
by Rampagelangford on Feb 16, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
i have no clitorati
but i have many friend who wish to have their clitorati rubbed
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said argh" – GSP
by Rampagelangford on Feb 16, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
That's my line Langford lol
And sittingbull is our ABB (good call OJR), he has the same sense of humour and the same outlandish predictions.
Speaking of bad predictions, where is SigDodger? Someone needs to make a Brock thread just to get him back out of his shell.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
You should be more hurt that I compared your Vitor pick to ABB's "Condit will beat GSP" pick lol
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
haha ABB's close there
hes my pick to upset GSP, if anybody
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
OK now you're officially English ABB lol
At this point I don’t see anybody beating GSP at WW unless he gets lazy or Jake Shields pulls off the biggest MMA upset since Serra beat GSP. Condit’s wrestling is nowhere near good enough to give GSP any problems in my opinion, both him and Nick Diaz would get tossed around and controlled on the ground with ease. And we’ve already seen GSP smash every other top WW.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
Hey if Lennox Lewis and Greg Rusedski are British then so are you
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
take celine
for the love of god.
we don’t want her anymore
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said aarg" – GSP

Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
"Yeah right. The man who singlehandedly killed ManBearPig is a loser"- Al Gore
Let the French have Celine
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
lmfao!
Me - "Vitor is past his prime, A. Silva will knock him the f*ck out!"
Sittingbull - "Weak trolling man, and Vitor aint past his prime, you'll see tommorow night."
You know so much! Yeah, I saw didn't I?
Danago (aka Jesse) got his BJJ black belt from Shogun, he is currently 41-0 in professional mma. If you don't have a black belt, don't bother talking to him, because his mma knowledge is unparalelled to any of ours.
i thought this was an easier fight for fedor
bigfoot got rocked by a lhw in his last fight. i honestly thought fedor would beat this guy 10/10… one more fight an then we’ll see what happens… dont retire yet if you dont want to… one more fight fedor
And I kept telling people Kyle was the real deal.
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
From Bigfoot's Manager
“Jeez, I got caught. I will have to come out with the truth now. I hired a Macumbeiro (Brazilian witch doctor) and we killed a black chicken on the crossroads. After this, over a few beers, I showed the witch doctor Fedor’s fights, and he was worried that a chicken wouldn’t be enough, so we went out and killed a black goat just to make sure. Very potent stuff. Really messed Fedor’s brain waves up.”
“We wanted to try that other military stuff Voronov is talking about, but it’s expensive technology and we were broke. The chicken and the goat came out way cheaper. Witch doctor is a friend; he did it for a few beers and an autograph.”
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
lmaoooo
this is the funniest excuse iv eer heard. Tito you are no longer 1st excuse maker in the mma world !
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said argh" – GSP
by Rampagelangford on Feb 16, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
Glad Big Foot and his camp have a sense of humour
Just shows up M-1 and Fedor even more.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
Does a story as stupid as this....
Really warrant 350 or whatever comments?
by jestermarcus on Feb 16, 2011 7:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Every Fedor thread is this long no matter how stupid the topic is
And half the comments were some random new guy arguing with the regs over nothing.
"AS’ skill levels are slightly higher than GSP’s"
"AS is definitely number one. He doesn’t lose and has shown that he will find a way to sub the best wrestlers."
Jay and I never expected to see him admit this.
It could be titled. Fedor does absolutely nothing, wont fight this year. No news to report, just ramble.
And there will be 400+ Posts
Anybody in this sport without a loss hasnt fought the right guy yet - Keith Jardine
by AintNoSunshine on Feb 16, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
Cant believ i spent 30 min arguing with random dudes in the internet.
Im ashamed of myself ;)
Seriously though.
The World of Combat Sports is not as good as it was Yesterday, a Legend is done, very sad day
...I bet this is what the Old Timers felt like when Muhammad Ali retired from Pro Boxing
I love you homie.
Does anyone else think that Bigfoot has the build of G Sots in this photo.
It just occured to me that they look similair…in this photo atleast.
Me - "Vitor is past his prime, A. Silva will knock him the f*ck out!"
Sittingbull - "Weak trolling man, and Vitor aint past his prime, you'll see tommorow night."
You know so much! Yeah, I saw didn't I?
Danago (aka Jesse) got his BJJ black belt from Shogun, he is currently 41-0 in professional mma. If you don't have a black belt, don't bother talking to him, because his mma knowledge is unparalelled to any of ours.
yeh pretty much - those weird long pec muscles looking kinda saggy into an oddly shaped abdomen
You have a great eye for the male anatomy – I was just watching the fight…
Fitch is the only man alive that would make a knife fight go to a decision!
by John G. on Jan 20, 2011 1:35 PM EST
More like Big Country
Conan : You are known as a striker. Is that correct? Tell me what that means.
Chuck : Well I like to punch people, or kick them.
No Big Country ate this kid to prepare for TUF.
by jestermarcus on Feb 16, 2011 9:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That was great, jester. Well done. I laughed.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth."
-Stephen King
note to self
dildos are only cool when ABB posts them
Cum on my face?
StrikerDave- Sig bet dodger
"Yeah right. The man who singlehandedly killed ManBearPig is a loser"- Al Gore
No
they aren’t cool at all. We don’t need that kind of shit in the threads. If you see it, flag it and it will be dealt with.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
by Geno Mrosko on Feb 16, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions

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