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UFC 140: Tito Ortiz contemplates retiring from 'the loneliest sport in the world'

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Former UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Tito Ortiz wants to retire from mixed martial arts "on his own terms."

However, if "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" "The People's Champion" loses to Antonio Rogerio Nogueira at UFC 140 tomorrow night (Dec. 10, 2011) in Toronto, he may not be afforded that option.

That's because Ortiz (16-9-1) is 1-5-1 since beating the relevancy out of Ken Shamrock way back in 2006. His most recent defeat, a lopsided technical knockout loss to Rashad Evans at UFC 133, was a clear indication that at 36, he is no longer competitive in the promotion's crowded light heavyweight division.

Whether or not that has to do with his deteriorating physical abilities, or just an influx of well-rounded second-generation fighters, is not clear.

What is clear is that Ortiz recognizes he's in the final stages of a popular combat sports career, and that a win (or loss) in "The Great White North" will go a long way in determing if -- or when -- we see him step inside the Octagon again.

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"Well, you know I have two more fights in my contract and I've gone through a lot of things in my history of fighting, surgeries and so forth. I've got three boys. I've got a family to take care of ... I've made my money. I've done my thing in the UFC and there's nothing else I can do in the UFC that I haven't already done. I don't want to have any more injuries ... Let's turn a chapter in my life and get into something a little less physical ... This is the most loneliest sport in the world. Fighting is nothing like no other. The mind games we play with ourselves, the physical games we play with ourselves, it's just like no other. We have our families that support us, our fans that support us, but at the end of the night, we go to bed and we think of the things on our own and it's tough, it's difficult to get through the things we do. Physically, mentally, emotionally, to get into the cage as I do and compete, it takes a strong will to do it and after the surgeries that I've had, it takes a strong will to do it year after year after year. I'm going on 15 years of doing it. I'm the longest competing competitive fighter in UFC history. I've got a couple more fights ahead of me and I'm thinking about it, I'm thinking about retiring and I think it makes sense to retire on my own terms."

Owning a litany of industry "firsts," Ortiz is likely to be remembered as a legendary fighter despite never being able to win "The Big One," having been handily defeated by both Chuck Liddell and Randy Couture in the prime of his career.

He was, however, able to sell the UFC at a time when it couldn't sell itself. Simply put, he put asses in the seats. Win or lose on Saturday night, his place in the history books is undoubtedly secure.

Anyone out there disagree?

For more on Tito's possible retirement click here. For a closer look at his UFC 140 fight against "Little Nog" click here. Lastly, a career retrospective can be found here.

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I’m thinking about retiring and I think it makes sense to retire on my own terms

Sure it does. But if you lose this weekend, you may be retiring on Dana’s terms! You were close to retiring on Bader’s terms, but out from the hat, a rabbit you pulled

by Newfie3 on Dec 9, 2011 11:19 AM EST reply actions  

didnt an article come out last week with tito saying he wanted to continue to fight as long as he cont to enjoy training?

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by i hate jake shields on Dec 9, 2011 11:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Tito will lose to Nog. A Nog NEVER dies when his back is against the wall!!!

I have never liked Tito. he was always a pussy, and was never really anything special other then someone who put butts in the seat (y people liked watching him, I have NO IDEA)…but he deserves to be in the hall of fame and he will be.

After all the excuses, the bullshit, the chuck ducking, the losses….he earned some good will stepping up to save the day and fight rashad. That took balls, something Tito never had before, so for me…i sat through his over rated ass for 15 years. I can sit through one more fight after he loses to lil Nog!

Let him finish out his contract. In may of 2012 it will be 15 year anniversary of Titos career. Let the man get his last fight. Even he deserves a retirment fight. Just please dont let it be against Forrest Griffin!

Nog will save his UFC career by beating Tito…but Dana and Lorenzo will let him finish his contract and give him one last fight! After all, a Tito promoted retirment fight is GOOD BUSINESS for the UFC any way! This fight isnt promoted as a retirment fight. I think when he loses to Nog, if Dana offers him his last fight, ONLY if its a set in stone retirment fight..then tito will get a farewell he deserves, and zuffa can make some nice coin off of iit!

by John G. on Dec 9, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

well I hope a Nog doesn't die on Saturday...

This is the most loneliest sport in the world. Fighting is nothing like no other - Tito

by Ulf Murphy on Dec 9, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I admit

I lol’d

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Dec 9, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Marv is a piece of work

I remember reading the SI article on Todd when he was 14. MArv was one of the first people in America to admit to attempting genetic engineering through finding a woman with whom he could have a “wonderchild”. Strange dude.

This is the most loneliest sport in the world. Fighting is nothing like no other - Tito

by Ulf Murphy on Dec 9, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

thats what I had in mind when I found my wife

superbabies

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.

The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.

Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.

by Str8_right on Dec 9, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Pics or it didn't happen :)

Bet 10$ against VM's 41$ on Machida to beat Jones.

by freenow82 on Dec 9, 2011 12:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

silly goose

so if I dont post a pic, I never met my wife?

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.

The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.

Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.

by Str8_right on Dec 9, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

too late

I got two little monsters already. The 5 year olds been getting muscle milk since he was two and been working the focus mitts and weights since 3. The 3 month olds got a mean staredown already, lol

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.

The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.

Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.

by Str8_right on Dec 9, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

haha nice, congrats on the young one

Bet 10$ against VM's 41$ on Machida to beat Jones.

by freenow82 on Dec 9, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I still like Tito regardless

Seeing him coach totally changed my opinion on him. Hopefully he goes on to coach younger fighters when he retires.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.

The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.

Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.

by Str8_right on Dec 9, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

he is just dumb, and i feel bad for him

just the other day he was talking about concussions and bray damage he said:

“hits like that, do brain damage..(started stuttering, didnt know what to say), To your Brain” hahaha you poor stupid baboon

what bugs me about him is he was always too cookl, or to much of a badboy to completely ignore his really solid submission and grappling game, and opted to just sit in his opponents guard forever. at least he did damage from the guard. more damage then gsp would do from 25 minutes in the mounted position

by John G. on Dec 9, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Tito has the most technical GNP I have ever seen. I think only Jones and Munoz have more dangerous GNP in the history of the sport.

by p123 on Dec 9, 2011 12:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Coleman

they changed the rules because of him.

This is the most loneliest sport in the world. Fighting is nothing like no other - Tito

by Ulf Murphy on Dec 9, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

ha. Headbutts should still be legal

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.

The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.

Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.

by Str8_right on Dec 9, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

GNO = Ground And OWN

Bet 10$ against VM's 41$ on Machida to beat Jones.

by freenow82 on Dec 9, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I said technical. I don’t think Hws should be included. Most of those guys don’t even know how to defend themselves off their back that well and the power is so insane.

Fedor , Carwin and Brock all have devastating GNP.

I’m talking technical stuff here. Tito is the most technical GNP guy ever.

by p123 on Dec 9, 2011 1:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

it was cool to see him break it down on TUF

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.

The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.

Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.

by Str8_right on Dec 9, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea that was cool!

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.

by MBOW on Dec 10, 2011 3:48 AM EST up reply actions  

but no elbows

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.

The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.

Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.

by Str8_right on Dec 9, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Im rooting for a Tito win too

Lil Nog does nothing for me.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.

The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.

Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.

by Str8_right on Dec 9, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Tito is lonely because he has been a Grade A douchebag his entire career. You generally don’t make many friends that way.

by p123 on Dec 9, 2011 11:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

haha yes! well said.

artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.

by Madrox on Dec 9, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

But he has enough money to attract an entourage of kiss-asses and hangers-on.

At least I am better than kevjack at making picks. I am satisfied with that.

by P-Dub on Dec 9, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Which will feed your ego, but won’t change the feeling of loneliness. Those people don’t fucking care about you, they are around until the money’s gone and then they get rid of you. I for one would not want that life.

by p123 on Dec 9, 2011 11:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Tito is so behind the fight curve its pure chance that he wins.

Tito is an antiquated fighter. He has not evolved his striking. Even his bread and butter wrestling/g&p is years behind the new fighters…He needs to hang up his hat.

by Chachi2579 on Dec 9, 2011 11:23 AM EST reply actions  

hey Titos striking looked very good against Bader

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.

The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.

Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.

by Str8_right on Dec 9, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

It was one punch, not a vast striking display.

The fight only lasted 2 minutes.

Chael sonnen is a cheating douchebag.

by MMA Boss on Dec 9, 2011 12:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

rewatch it man

he avoided leg kicks, punches. Worked a pretty damn respectable striking game. First time I saw it I didnt really notice and the big finish (and weed) erased everything before from my memory. Seeing this past Wednesday, I was pretty impressed. Tito can strike. I like how he’s boxing with Parillo. His hands looked pretty good.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.

The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.

Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.

by Str8_right on Dec 9, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I know Tito has tried. He’s just not built for striking. He’s a lot like Matt Hughes in that regard. Some people got it, some people don’t. Anderson will never become a takedown machine but we don’t say he’s not evolved. It’s just how it is.

by p123 on Dec 9, 2011 11:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

wait, wait, wait

7 of Tito’s last 9 fights have been against former UFC champions. In the other 2, he decimated Bader, who at one time was the next big thing, and lost a close decision to Matt Hammill. Tito was only stopped in two of those fights.

In any other division, Tito would have gotten a fight against a Mark Bocek or Tom Lawlor to get back into contention, ie some easy wins for elite guys.

Even though Tito has not won many fights recently, his fights prove he is a good stepping stone to the current elite fighters in the division.

This is the most loneliest sport in the world. Fighting is nothing like no other - Tito

by Ulf Murphy on Dec 9, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with that

He always has to fight the elite. Some of his fights could have gone either way too. He had a string of bad luck really. He is a decent fight for anybody.. even top level comp

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 9, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

This is the most loneliest sport in the world. Fighting is nothing like no other

Thank You Tito for your blatant disregard for proper grammar. You have made LSC keyborad warriors everywhere proud.

NNR is going to pick both Nogs on Saturday and become irrelevant to the money pool. Watch.

by Ulf Murphy on Dec 9, 2011 11:25 AM EST reply actions  

HAHAHAHA

and then I misspell a word…priceless

NNR is going to pick both Nogs on Saturday and become irrelevant to the money pool. Watch.

by Ulf Murphy on Dec 9, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

had you said nothing

i would have thought it was intentional…!

"I gotta be the bad guy. Point the finger. Make me the bad guy....the only reason I'm getting this fight is because everybody wants to see me take an ass whipping right about now."

by SuperShins on Dec 9, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Tito needs to stick with being the HBBB, not The People's Champ.

The Rock is, always has been and always will be, The People’s Champ. Unless, you know, Tito can defeat The Rock on the microphone.

At least I am better than kevjack at making picks. I am satisfied with that.

by P-Dub on Dec 9, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Tito on people hating on him and Jenna:

“Yeah, they’re just jealous…! How many guys can say they’ve been with Jenna Jameson!!”

True story

"I gotta be the bad guy. Point the finger. Make me the bad guy....the only reason I'm getting this fight is because everybody wants to see me take an ass whipping right about now."

by SuperShins on Dec 9, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

lmao! thats awesome.

As proven, ULF has superior pick-em knowledge than I. I tip my hat to thee sir.

Don't pity those who tried and lost. Pity those who never had the courage to try in the first place.

by A.K on Dec 9, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Have you seen his interview with fedor?

Gold.

"I gotta be the bad guy. Point the finger. Make me the bad guy....the only reason I'm getting this fight is because everybody wants to see me take an ass whipping right about now."

by SuperShins on Dec 9, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

LET ME TELL YOU HOW YOU FEELIN RIGHT NOW,

Thank you UFC fans. My name Stun Gun. I want GSP

by crinow on Dec 9, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Lmao. He really said that?

Chael sonnen is a cheating douchebag.

by MMA Boss on Dec 9, 2011 12:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

nope, just my douchebag self

see what happens?

This is the most loneliest sport in the world. Fighting is nothing like no other - Tito

by Ulf Murphy on Dec 9, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

As much as I dislike tito the person

Tito the fighter is hard not to respect. He helped do exactly that, your right. he’s never not brought it. Excuses or not, he stepped up pretty much all of the time. And after what chuck did to him, he got in there a second time. Guy’s a good mix of dumb and ballsy.

"I gotta be the bad guy. Point the finger. Make me the bad guy....the only reason I'm getting this fight is because everybody wants to see me take an ass whipping right about now."

by SuperShins on Dec 9, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

The whole interview is worth reading

and Tito is an icon in MMA.

I honestly believe that Dana should induct Tito into the UFC HOF the day he announces his retirement. He did more for the sport than Hughes, Liddell or Couture.

This is the most loneliest sport in the world. Fighting is nothing like no other - Tito

by Ulf Murphy on Dec 9, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

absolutely agree

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.

The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.

Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.

by Str8_right on Dec 9, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

He probably won’t. Hughes / Lidell and Couture even if they had differences with UFC never got into the stuff Tito vs Dana was like. No way does Dana ever put Tito in the HOF.

by p123 on Dec 9, 2011 12:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He will have too

Tito, Chuck, and GSP are 3 most famous fighters of all time.. he will be there for sure

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 9, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed Tito as the fighter gets major respect for what’s he done and how he’s helped make this sport big. As a human being, he’s straight up trash.

by p123 on Dec 9, 2011 11:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

he propably feels lonely cause...

He spends too much time playing with himself.

by bloody_cage_junkie on Dec 9, 2011 11:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

while watching Jennas old videos...

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.

The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.

Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.

by Str8_right on Dec 9, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I still watch Jenna's old videos.

she was badass back in the day.

This is the most loneliest sport in the world. Fighting is nothing like no other - Tito

by Ulf Murphy on Dec 9, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

if one is able to be badass at sucking cock and while taking it in hard in two other holes, then yes, she was badass

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.

The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.

Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.

by Str8_right on Dec 9, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

this is tito being tito

if he wins the retirement talk will die just like Nog will according to Ulf

by ElStIkO on Dec 9, 2011 11:42 AM EST reply actions  

John G said Nog will die, not me

or something like that. I don’t always understand read his rants.

This is the most loneliest sport in the world. Fighting is nothing like no other - Tito

by Ulf Murphy on Dec 9, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Rewatched his Bader fight on Unleashed the other night

Tito looked pretty damn good. The Rashad fight IMO was too soon after and Rashad had evolved already so much.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.

The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.

Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.

by Str8_right on Dec 9, 2011 12:28 PM EST reply actions  

Plus, he was competitive in that one imo

He landed some good shots on Rashad and almost got a sub to win it.. Wasnt a bad fight. He just lost motivation during it imo.

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 9, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

HHAAA nice!!

Not bad for a racist

I have issued my statement. If Chael wins against Silva, im officially the coolest guy on Mania and have the coolest dvd collection. If he loses.....then I shall leave Mania for good....

by PrivateBox on Dec 9, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Tito,

Just beat Nog and retire with a win!

by MMA040 on Dec 9, 2011 1:20 PM EST reply actions  

Tito.....shut up and retire.

There will be only one comeback story in MMA…..one of dominance, destruction, and romance….

I have issued my statement. If Chael wins against Silva, im officially the coolest guy on Mania and have the coolest dvd collection. If he loses.....then I shall leave Mania for good....

by PrivateBox on Dec 9, 2011 4:35 PM EST reply actions  


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