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Donald Cerrone: Nate Diaz said he didn't want to do 'any of that gay wrestling sh*t'

Nate Diaz (left) and Donald Cerrone (right) make up after their thrilling fight at UFC 141 last night (Fri., Dec. 30, 2011) in Las Vegas, Nevada. Photo by Donald Miralle/Zuffa LLC/Zuffa LLC via Getty Images.

Oh, these silly Ultimate Fighters.

Despite Greg Jackson's exhortations between rounds, stubborn "Cowboy," Donald Cerrone, chose to stand directly in front of Nate Diaz for all three rounds of their UFC 141 slobberknocker last night (Dec. 30, 2011) in Las Vegas, Nevada.. At the post-fight press conference, he revealed why.

He could have phrased it a lot better, though.

A battered Cerrone informed the gathered media that Nate Diaz, who has expressed disdain in the past for wrestlers with the gall to do what they needed to to win, didn't want to to "any of that gay wrestling shit".

Oh, boy.

Star-divide

After getting soundly outgrappled by the larger Dong Hyun Kim, Nate told the media that, essentially, he didn't need to work on his wrestling, but the rules needed to stop helping wrestlers. It seems that getting manhandled by Rory MacDonald in his very next fight didn't change his mind.

But what's truly troubling is the adjective he (or possibly Cerrone, depending on whether he added to the quote) used to describe it.

The wrestling aspect of MMA has been described as "gay" for as long as the sport has been around. Fossilized blowhard Bob Arum once berated mixed martial artists for "rolling around on the ground like a bunch of homosexuals," and following UFC lightweight Anthony Njokuani's submission loss to Shane Roller, the Nigerian posted the following message on his Twitter page:

"Roller wants to come out and say that it was easy. I don't think so. Let me be in the right state of mind and will see if its easy, fag. Be a man and stand. We're here to fight not make love."

Njokuani did go on to get knocked clean out standing by Polish banger Maciej Jewtuszko in his next fight, but the karmic retribution wasn't enough to erase the significance of the quote. Michael Bisping has also gone on record saying he "fought like a fag" against Dan Miller and used that word as his go-to insult before his fight against Jorge Rivera.

Perhaps it's just sour apples on the parts of the fighters (considering that both Cerrone and Diaz both go for takedowns when they think they can get them), and I can already hear the fans shaking their heads and telling the media to grow thicker skin, but this is really a legitimate issue.

Like it or not, the UFC is making every effort to become more mainstream; the FOX deal is the major example, but the Twitter bonuses and harsh penalties involved in saying the wrong thing are also indicative of their efforts to become more than a niche sport. Having half of it, the half that most new fans will likely be more ignorant about (punching people in the head tends to be a pretty universally-understood thing) insulted by the fighters themselves isn't helping anything.

And that's not even mentioning the homophobia .. and it is homophobia. The people insulting ground fighters are using implied homosexuality as an insult, like they're lesser men for using it. Alienating an increasingly vocal segment of the population, one that includes Neil Patrick Harris (who is twice the man any of these guys are), is also less-than-helpful.

With the UFC cracking down on rape references, it's disheartening to see them doing nothing to fix a detrimental stereotype that the fighters seem only too happy to propagate.

Baby steps, I suppose.

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by The Pride on Dec 31, 2011 11:05 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

U know who this is an issue for?

The gays

And I mean that in the nicest way possible. It may sound terribly derogatory but most young people have grown up using those words and never thinking once about anything close to a literal interpretation. Crass as it may be and insulting as it may be to some, it just carries no weight to most of us. Nate might want to choose his words more carefully but I think a site like this should shy away from making more of it than is necessary.

A long diatribe with various instances of other fighters of a similar age using insensitive phrases only serves to blow this out of proportion. I highly doubt the writers on this site don’t use those phrases regularly with friends and find it disingenuous to make an issue of it to appear as a more legitimate news portal. This is a blog. It’s been a pretty damn open forum at that, which is why your readers are so loyal. Getting banned or derided for criticizing a fighter or making an off color joke on other sites is why mania thrives. Don’t try to be ESPN. I can check them or CBS or yahoo or any other major news outlet for the same canned opinions and commentary any time I like and it’ll be easier. Mania should know its audience and not fan a flame for no reason

by Crowls on Jan 1, 2012 4:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I highly doubt the writers on this site don’t use those phrases regularly with friends
Mania should know its audience

Yea, because all MMA fans are homophobic?

most young people have grown up using those words and never thinking once about anything close to a literal interpretation.

Did you even read the article?

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by In Rainbows on Jan 1, 2012 5:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup

I read it.

I never said all mma fans are homophobic. Not sure how you gathered that

by Crowls on Jan 1, 2012 11:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah

He read it, I think he’s saying that using the term “gay” to describe something is NOT homophobic which the article says it most certainly is.

I think Crowls point about not doing stupid “cliche” articles is right on!!

by jtc5150 on Jan 1, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

gay fag queer etc

Have all evolved through cultures and over the years similar to bloody bugger or even guy. PC police desire to hijack words from the rest of the culture and keep them taboo obscene or vulgar even when they grow into common ebonics. Southpark had a great episode on ‘fags’.

by talkfight on Jan 1, 2012 11:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

People will whine about anything

As soon as i heard him say that i knew a shitstorm would ensue.

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by tkotom on Dec 31, 2011 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

You'll notice the whole room laughed

In fact I think it was the funniest thing said at the press conference.

If we interpret the term in way it is meant to be — something undesirable — then it actually makes a lot of sense. Let’s face it, nobody wants to see that “gay wrestling shit” with Jon Fitch, which is why we all cheered when he got knocked out. Now, if somebody said, “nobody wanted to see that tedious, boring and tiresome wrestling” then it amounts to the same thing in my brain and I digest it as such.

by unambig on Dec 31, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly what I wanted to say

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by wyldeman99 on Jan 1, 2012 12:29 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

+1

People need to stop being such fags

Jason Miller is a retard with straight hair and curly teeth.Hes a couple of dolly mixtures short of a quarter and spends his time swinging of a tyre attached to a rope! I should have listened to the MMA royalty on here,especially Jay,ANS and ViolentMike who kept reminding me that Mikes wrestling was the best at 185 and 205 and that if Greg Jackson,Randy Couture,Blackhouse,ATT or team quest ever needed any tips on game planning Wolfsalir is just a phone call away

by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Jan 1, 2012 3:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

you are as PC as they come

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by tkotom on Jan 1, 2012 7:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was weird though that cowboy didn't get on top of Nate bc he was losing and that was obvious!

He had no problem taking him down and his jj is good enough to fight off Nate’s attempts at subs, so why didn’t he take top position??? Very odd and I guess this is why. Nate did get inside his head and if they fought again it would probably be a much dif fight. Might be the same outcome, but imo it would have been a much closer fight. Glad Nate won even though I was disgusted with his behavior towards Cerrone when they first met. I understands Nate’s mentality, but it’s just not how I am. He was very respectful after the fight as he and Nick always are, but no reason to be that much of a dick before hand. Just my opinion, but hey, it worked for him and could have been why he got the win, so job well done I guess!

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.

by MBOW on Dec 31, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

I thought the same thing. He swept Nate off his feet easily 5-10 times. If he had simply pounced on him while he was down, the fight could have ended differently- especially in the 2nd and 3rd round, when nate had slowed down.

Massive lost opportunity and poor strategy. When he saw Nate was getting the better of the striking, he should have taken it to the ground. It was dead easy, because he basically knocked Nate down virtually at will.

But giving his comments, I guess mounting a guy after sweeping him off his feet would be just a little too much for someone who already probably has to listen to too many Brokeback Mountain jokes.

by Motmaitre on Dec 31, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

lol I'm sure that's why!

Dumb though if you ask me, especially when your corner is yelling for it!

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.

by MBOW on Dec 31, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Even if you are scared of a guy’s ground game, if you are losing the fight big time (which Cerrone was) why not go for GnP ?

Pretty dumb, I was thinking the same

by jtc5150 on Jan 1, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Why didn't he take top position is what I kept asking.. .

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by Roger81 on Jan 3, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think Nate was being serious...

He is a bjj brown belt, it’s pretty hard to get there if you think grappling is gay.

by SnoopSteele on Jan 1, 2012 3:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You couldn't be more wrong

When I say, Patrick, stop being a faggot, it’s clear I’m requesting that you stop acting a way I find unpleasant. This is obvious for two reasons, firstly because your sexual orientation is immaterial to the conversation, and second because the word faggot has etymologically evolved again and people know it’s a non-sexualized term.

Moreover, the term gay has worked itself into American, and Canadian, slang vernacular to refer to something undesirable. It has no reference to homosexuality, and in fact you’d be hard pressed to find a person of homosexual orientation actually agree they’re offended by the use of the word “gay” in describing something negatively.

The word gay was actually adopted from its original meaning of being joval, happy or good-spirited. I see nothing strange or ironic about it having evolved to mean something unpleasant, sad or mean-spirited. Words and language change. Only politically correct dinosaurs can’t seem to keep up.

by unambig on Dec 31, 2011 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

+1

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by The Pride on Dec 31, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree, but you're wrong in saying that gay people don't mind the word gat being used in such a way.

I have two close friends that are homosexual and neither likes when that word is used in a derogatory fashion. I do get what you are saying though.

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.

by MBOW on Dec 31, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, in the same way there are blacks who don't like being called a n*****

But in the black American street vernacular, they all call each other n***** and not only is it not an insult, it’s often a term of affection. It really depends not only on context, but who is using the term.

by unambig on Dec 31, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Again, I see what you are saying, but that isn't a great analogy.

I don’t know any gays who use the word “gay” in a derogatory way.
unambig; I enjoy reading your well thought out and sensible posts.

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.

by MBOW on Dec 31, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Hope that last part wasn't to faggy! lol

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.

by MBOW on Dec 31, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

that's what i don't understand,

it’s ok for them to use the “N” word, but non blacks can’t

it’s just weird to us who are not americans

by theblade on Dec 31, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

depends where you live and who you grow up with

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by Khaos_Warrior on Dec 31, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

its cuz white people say Nigger..

When hispanics or blacks say Nigga…

Believe when I tell you saying whats up Nigger is way different than saying whats up Nigga.

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by Roger81 on Jan 3, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Tell those two to quit acting like fags and chill out

It’s just a word. it seems like with having the internet show you any graphic image you can imagine appear in less then a second that people wouldn’t get so offended because of a word. Get some thicker skin.

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by wyldeman99 on Jan 1, 2012 12:35 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

+10000 unambig just ownt this thread

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by Khaos_Warrior on Dec 31, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

If faggot or gay means something "undesirable"

It’s because it’s undesirable for men to be thought of as wanting a cock in their ass. Stop trying to justify your hate with this bullshit nonsense you’re posting.

by Ironbuddha on Jan 1, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

i have not seen a single post from Unambig that shows that he hates gay ppl

in modern speaking gay means negative/undesirable. If i call u a bitch im not saying ur a female dog im saying ur weak. Same thing

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by The Pride on Jan 1, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

+1000000000000000000000000

Dictionary definition for gay or fag: " A disgusting form of affection used by confused non-female associations of would be men." or “gross” or “Facking Gross”..

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by Roger81 on Jan 3, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

STFU unambig... what the fuck did u say?

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by THORAZINE on Jan 1, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm writing plain English

I don’t know how much more I can dumb it down for you. Did you think Cowboy was taking a shot at homosexuals?

by unambig on Jan 1, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Unambig wins!

Seriously though, this whole discussion is “retarded”

…see what I did there

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by Jrandolph on Jan 1, 2012 12:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Phenomenal

(slow clap)

by Crowls on Jan 1, 2012 4:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

lol

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by Roger81 on Jan 3, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Except he didn't call anyone gay

He didn’t say… I can’t believe Donald tried to wrestle me. What a gay……

He called no individual gay. No individual should take offense. He called wrestling gay which was clearly not used in a derogatory form towards homosexuals. Lighten up people. Just cuz you know a gay guy who doesn’t like the word fag means you should try to convince the rest of us that we use the word in a way we do not

by Crowls on Jan 1, 2012 4:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

First rate

Championship post

by Crowls on Jan 1, 2012 4:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

way to try and get nate in trouble after he kicked ur butt. stay classy Cerrone

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by FarNorCal on Dec 31, 2011 11:09 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

He's only using the vernacular of 300 million North Americans

And to expand on the other term often used these days, “faggot”, from Urban Dictionary:

“In these times not really used if somebody is really a homosexual mostly used insteap of calling somebody stupid or a loser.”

by unambig on Dec 31, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

O yeah because what Nate says ultimately overpowers Herb Dean.

I’m not exactly on the “screw all wrestlers train” because I know you have to do anything to win. From the time that door closes to the last bell rings you have to put hands on another motherfucker for 15 minutes, how you do it is up to you.
Lets not forget if you can’t stop the take down, motherfucker that is your fault, no one elses.

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by CharactersAnalysis on Dec 31, 2011 11:13 PM EST reply actions  

ugh...

Is masculinity on trial again? I can’t watch a fight & cheer for blood. My eyebrows are apparently too thick bcuz they’re not pencil thin. I’m having a really difficult time finding “mens” jeans in the MENS section. Wtf is a “girlfriend cut”? (Can I please have some baggy or loose fit please? I’ll say thank you, I swear I will!)
We really need to create a go-to word for insulting people I guess. People want to screw whoever they want? Fine, I’m not going to hit them in the head with a rock and yell “FAG!”. but my disapproval for a person can most easily be summed up by comparing them to that sector of men whom I view as being defective & flawed. Ie-"Stop being such a fucking fag!)
(PS homosexuality was listed as a mental illness in the American Medical Journal up until 1972 until such time as it was removed unceremoniously. Unlike previous illnesses which were reclassified, no evidence for or against the move was presented. It simply wasn’t an “mental illness” to be homosexual anymore. Many point to intense lobbying as the cause of removal rather than any definitive research.)
I don’t approve of violence against the gay community, or anyone who wants to live there life & not intrude into mine, but its just very unfortunate that they happen to adequately describe male “weakness” for a large section of traditional men. Sorry you’re feelings are hurt, but if you can take a dick in the ass you shouldn’t be worried about what we “uncouth, uncultured, & uneducated savages” call guys like you!…all due respect of course..

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by Fat Daddy Doobs on Dec 31, 2011 11:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Im speechless after reading this.

Holy shit. You really missed the mark. I have no problem with the use of the term but what you just said isn’t helping at all. In fact, that’s the entire issue people have with using the term. You are beyond stupid. There is no help for you.

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by El Pablo Diablo on Dec 31, 2011 11:28 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

lucky for me i dont want or need your help.

The issue is everyone must walk on eggshells so as not to offend any sector of potential revenue…got it! There are words that some people choose to be offended by. For others these words are chaff, to be thrown around with little to meaning outside of the moment. What YOU are missing is that words are merely sounds. They carry the weight of whatever understanding you place on them. Stupid? That’s your take on what I’ve said. I place no blame on you for not understanding. I am beyond YOU.

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by Fat Daddy Doobs on Dec 31, 2011 11:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

After UFC 112 in Vancouver some homosexuals were attacked on the street

The media widely reported it was done by UFC fans leaving the fights, without any corroboration or evidence whatsoever to support the assertion. So, to a certain extent there may be a public perception, erroneously, that UFC fans are homophobic. But then again people think this is “human cock fighting” (however an oxymoron that may be) so whatareyagonnado.

by unambig on Dec 31, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Like I said

I really don’t have a problem with using the word. I don’t personally, but political correctness had always been something I have issue with from time to time. Much of it is valid, some is just plain insane and overly sensitive. But to use the word in a way that is the exact reason people are offended is where I take issue. You are beyond nothing. You are before, under, short of, and behind everything.

"Here we are with Seraldo Babalu, you did an awesome job, saw why you’re a black belt in jiu-jitsu, getting an awesome submission there, I want to tell me what you see, let’s go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring." - Tito (the Head) Ortiz - Great Commentator, or Greatest Commentator.

"GSP is me."

by El Pablo Diablo on Jan 1, 2012 12:04 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I gotta agree with Diablo

The issue is that the term “gay” wasn’t used in a sexual context. You’re trying to be dismissive of it while contextualizing and downplaying homophobia.

by unambig on Dec 31, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

The words meaning has changed and to use it in such a way that has no connection to sexual orientation is how it is most commonly used these days but to actually use it as an insult directly comparing to people you find defected and flawed is where the issue arises. this kid just won most stupid comment of the night by a landslide

"Here we are with Seraldo Babalu, you did an awesome job, saw why you’re a black belt in jiu-jitsu, getting an awesome submission there, I want to tell me what you see, let’s go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring." - Tito (the Head) Ortiz - Great Commentator, or Greatest Commentator.

"GSP is me."

by El Pablo Diablo on Dec 31, 2011 11:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Although extremely uncommon these days, there are still times that the words are used as a derogatory epithet, such as in the link to YouTube provided by CharactersAnalysis

Then again, YouTube commenters seem to have an cumulative IQ of 97. I was listening to Mozart on YouTube recently and there were people EVEN THERE leaving racial and sexual epithets.

by unambig on Dec 31, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Right again.

On both counts.

"Here we are with Seraldo Babalu, you did an awesome job, saw why you’re a black belt in jiu-jitsu, getting an awesome submission there, I want to tell me what you see, let’s go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring." - Tito (the Head) Ortiz - Great Commentator, or Greatest Commentator.

"GSP is me."

by El Pablo Diablo on Jan 1, 2012 12:10 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

what ru fags talking about?

how’s that for derogatory… ru left overs from ABB’s minions?

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by THORAZINE on Jan 1, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you drunk?

Oh wait, it’s New Year’s Eve. Carry on.

by unambig on Jan 1, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

lol.... happy fuckin newyears!

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by THORAZINE on Jan 1, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Im sorry unambig but there is just soo much gayness going on in this thread

and ABB isnt even around?… somethin is not right in MMAMania

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by THORAZINE on Jan 1, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Just in case ....right?

I vote your comment the most stupid of the night.

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by daxawyes on Dec 31, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like something you would say.

"Here we are with Seraldo Babalu, you did an awesome job, saw why you’re a black belt in jiu-jitsu, getting an awesome submission there, I want to tell me what you see, let’s go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring." - Tito (the Head) Ortiz - Great Commentator, or Greatest Commentator.

"GSP is me."

by El Pablo Diablo on Jan 1, 2012 12:06 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

It was used to describe a situation in which one man mounts another, with both of them engaged in a tight clinch. I’d say the reference was clearly sexual in this case.

by Motmaitre on Dec 31, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

It'd say the fact they mount one another is coincidental

When Nate and Donald clinched in the beginning was there any less man-on-man contact? In the context and the way it was interpreted in the room, the comment made by Donald was clearly non-sexual. And, if anything, jujitsu involves more sexually ambiguous terms and moves… and Nate is a jujitsu fighter.

by unambig on Dec 31, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Touche

Not sure on the spelling there….but you hopefully get the point

"Here we are with Seraldo Babalu, you did an awesome job, saw why you’re a black belt in jiu-jitsu, getting an awesome submission there, I want to tell me what you see, let’s go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring." - Tito (the Head) Ortiz - Great Commentator, or Greatest Commentator.

"GSP is me."

by El Pablo Diablo on Jan 1, 2012 12:08 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

seen you around alot unambig & agree with alot of your posts..

So I’ll cop out & admit to trolling. Its NYE & I’m in my cups. But this is a touchy issue for so many that have had family members in various lifestyles (myself included) that I’ll tapout on this thread..have a good evening

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by Fat Daddy Doobs on Dec 31, 2011 11:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Fags stick together I guess? lol

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I'm in the trunk as she drives the van,
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by Roger81 on Jan 3, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Homophobia is bullshit...

Its like “what you dont like gays” then you must be a gay yourself… thats dumb.

I devise a plan,
I'm in the trunk as she drives the van,
Aint no disguise, Imma die as a man-- Tupac

by Roger81 on Jan 3, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree totally Fat Daddy

There are three types of people in this world; sheep, wolves and sheepdogs. Which one are you?

by daxawyes on Dec 31, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you...

Im sorry to everyone else but I have the Right to not like someone for being gay without being wrong for it…. Being gay is a choice and that is my opinion of it..

I devise a plan,
I'm in the trunk as she drives the van,
Aint no disguise, Imma die as a man-- Tupac

by Roger81 on Jan 3, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

By the way, for everybody who hasn't seen this, you should:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IFloXOuLgA

If you don’t know Louis CK, he’s pretty liberal. But he also tells it the way it is.

by unambig on Dec 31, 2011 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

great episode

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by The Pride on Dec 31, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure a lot of people here ride Harleys but goddamn it, I agree with that episode

When a Harley rider screams by my place shaking the neighbourhood and waking up the dead there’s only one word that comes to my mind.

by unambig on Dec 31, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Great episode

To bad the rebranding didn’t catch pin

"Here we are with Seraldo Babalu, you did an awesome job, saw why you’re a black belt in jiu-jitsu, getting an awesome submission there, I want to tell me what you see, let’s go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring." - Tito (the Head) Ortiz - Great Commentator, or Greatest Commentator.

"GSP is me."

by El Pablo Diablo on Dec 31, 2011 11:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

louis CK is hilarious..love his show...

But Norm Macdonald kinda summs up everything that should be said here…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX_gUQeZcB8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." George Bernard Shaw

by Fat Daddy Doobs on Dec 31, 2011 11:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That's funny

I’ve always thought “gay pride” was a little strange since it’s a misnomer. They want to assert their equal rights, not celebrate their differences.

by unambig on Dec 31, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

i find the double standard or things like gay pride, brown pride and native pride strange. Im in no way racist so i dont really get why it matters but if i felt the same way and wanted to put a white pride tattoo on my chest or decal on my pick up id surely be labelled racist and thought less of by the public.

by Swanny44 on Jan 1, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxgP-cFo2RA

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by CharactersAnalysis on Dec 31, 2011 11:31 PM EST reply actions  

ahahahahaha

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by The Pride on Dec 31, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Check out

Johny Hendricks face after he says that. Like “Come on now man, I’m a wrestler.”

by EyeHeartMMA on Dec 31, 2011 11:32 PM EST reply actions  

Let's not turn this into BE.

I struggle to see how these thin-skinned people get anything done with seemingly so much of their time and energy spent making sure that some dude doesn’t say the word “gay”.

They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
- Benjamin Franklin

by JimCrankshaft on Dec 31, 2011 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

With the guy who’s got the gay porn star name. Jim Crankshaft. Awesome.

by Ironbuddha on Jan 1, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

damn right jim, these faggs need to calm down. what the hell happened

To faggots having a sack? For god’s sake, these fags need to butch up .

by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 1, 2012 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

If he doesn't wanna be gay, then lose the lisp

Fighters always say that the aspect they are weak in is gay. So lame. Nate has zero strength so it’s no surprise he thinks it’s gay. I bet he doesn’t say that to Melendez

by UltimateHuggingChampionship on Dec 31, 2011 11:50 PM EST reply actions  

You’re all a bunch of nerds. It’s NYE, get out and have a good time. Overanalyzing everything, as usual. Calm down kids, have a drink of water.

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Dec 31, 2011 11:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

No one's drinking water on New Years Eve danago

I’m getting ready to go out what about you guys??

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by CharactersAnalysis on Dec 31, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

5am over here man, just got in. Reading some of the comments I’m disappointed. Have a good night!

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Dec 31, 2011 11:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Same to you man, Be safe and tear the club up!

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by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 1, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Goodnight Maniacs, check you guys later

Stay Classy.

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by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 1, 2012 12:02 AM EST reply actions  

I don't understand

Why Cerrone didn’t use any head movement it just looked like BJ vs Nick except BJ used more movement… I’m sure Cowboy would’ve had a much better chance had he not stood so flat footed like he said after the fight.

by MauiWaves on Jan 1, 2012 12:33 AM EST reply actions  

Regardless I feel bad for Cerrone's

Next opponent, they’re going to get demolished D:

by MauiWaves on Jan 1, 2012 12:36 AM EST reply actions  

words cannot describe how stupid this whole thing is........

your all fags, homo’s and cocksuckers……..but your not gay, as its not right to call anyone that is not gay……gay, wtf does gay mean anyways?……them fags stole my word an i want it back, i also want faggot back aswell……

you idiots have turned me into a troll, i hope you're fucking happy......

by mizzyb on Jan 1, 2012 1:04 AM EST reply actions  

what a gay article

way to go Patrick, ya fag

You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.

by I.AM.miSTAKen on Jan 1, 2012 1:39 AM EST reply actions  

Cerrone didn't go to the ground, because Nate beats him there.

He was damed if he did and damed if he didn’t. Diaz owned him period.

"Those who bring sunshine to the lives of others cannot keep it from themselves."
- James M. Barrie

by Rilly on Jan 1, 2012 1:42 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Agreed. I don’t think Cerrone wanted anything to do with Nick’s ground game either.

by p123 on Jan 1, 2012 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Gay ppl bring it on themselves

All that madri gra shit sets them up for “gay references” all over the place.

"Those who bring sunshine to the lives of others cannot keep it from themselves."
- James M. Barrie

by Rilly on Jan 1, 2012 1:44 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Not hating

but this is a the first non story coming out of the UFC 141 post fight water cooler talk gents

"That little fucker hit me with a Hadukan or something" – Nick Diaz on Gomi
"You should study Pokemon to get stronger." - Sakuraba
"A champion is someone who sweats to exhaustion, even when no one else is watching." -Bas Rutten
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To the earth, Chemically
And to the rest of the Universe, Atomically

by Pillow Pants on Jan 1, 2012 3:06 AM EST reply actions  

These are fighters not politicians

Who cares it was a great fight. They get punched in the head for a living.

by HighNoon on Jan 1, 2012 5:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Btw im gay and I say this. Any gay dude who acts like he cares just wants attention.

by HighNoon on Jan 1, 2012 5:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What’s honestly more offensive is how offended straight people get. What like saying the word gay will make a gay dude to feel negatively? I’d hope a person has more character than that.

by HighNoon on Jan 1, 2012 5:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don’t think you can say with certainty that for every fighter use of the word gay or fag means they are homophobic. Like it or not, suggesting that a straight man is gay is funny for a lot of people, as indicated by the media’s reaction at the press conference. The same people that make fun of their straight friends for being gay also have friends that actually are gay. Whether gay people are being persecuted around the world or not is beside the point of someone’s intention when using the word gay or fag. All of that being said, I could definitely understand the gay community having some sensitivity regarding statements such as those from Diaz, but I would never empathize with full blown outrage.

by BlaiseBlaise on Jan 1, 2012 5:30 AM EST reply actions  

I think you had the right idea

but you targeted the wrong people. no reason to target the fighters, this isn’t the nba, fighters are treated like much lesser people and will always be able to get away with more, mainstream or not. You should have made the post about Dana White making such comments, you have a real story when you bring up what the president of the company has said. The one associated with the fertitta brothers, who happen to own casino’s.

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by In Rainbows on Jan 1, 2012 5:40 AM EST reply actions  

OMG!!!! He said gay!! Did he really? OMG! He did! He should be fired and fined. Seriously are we gonna let this gay Gestapo tell us what we can say? I don’t give a fuck if you suck cock but if you throw like a girl im gonna call you a fag. Sorry.

by Danny Glover on Jan 1, 2012 9:56 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

And seriously

That comment should be offensive to wrestlers not gays. Shit doesn’t even make sense. Pathetic victims just want something to complain about.

by Danny Glover on Jan 1, 2012 9:57 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Latent Homosexuality

The guys who call other guys “gay” and “fag” are always the queerest. It’s there subconscious mind projecting their deepest inner desires. There’s nothing wrong with being gay. What’s worse is the denial, and having to put others down in order to make yourself feel better and push your latent homosexuality to the back of your subconscious mind. The guys that talk most about “gay shit” are always the gayest. They really want to suck a dick, they just don’t have the balls to do it……

by Jonny Kush on Jan 1, 2012 1:20 PM EST reply actions  

Ummm...

Diaz tried twice to do that “”http://blog.fightmetric.com/2011/12/diaz-vs-cerrone-official-ufc-statistics.html" >gay wrestling shit" in the first round, the only difference being that he failed in doing it. What a bitch. Not that I had much respect for him before, but that’s bullshit on two levels.

by Scott Whitaker on Jan 1, 2012 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

Come on Cowboy, you fight to win! If wrestling is so gay, it shouldn’t be any problem for Diaz to get out of any wrestling holds right! If what Cowboy states is true, than it was Diaz, not Cowboy who got into the other’s head! Foolish mistake Cowboy! Wayne Arthur

by ussclaudejones on Jan 1, 2012 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

Had to double check and see if I was on mania, cuz this is an article that you would see on bloody vage. we don’t need to discuss homos on this site just because they get all sensitive over every little comment from a straight guy.

by NateDogg77 on Jan 1, 2012 6:56 PM EST reply actions  

Nobody gives a fuck about this

except for over sensitive dorks who don’t have real problems to bitch about.

Learn JiuJitsu.
Semper Fi'
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by RolloTomasi on Jan 1, 2012 10:43 PM EST reply actions  


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