Miguel Torres speaks out on his UFC return: 'I knew I made a big mistake' (Video)
"I knew I made a big mistake. I knew what I said hurt people and I had to own up to it, be a man and accept it. I had to educate myself and learn how I hurt people. In the process I learned a lot of things. That's the biggest thing I learned out of all this, your words are very powerful."
Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) bantamweight fighter Miguel Torres, who was released from his ZUFFA contract back on Dec. 8, 2011, following a controversial rape joke on his official Twitter account, talks about the learning process that led him to "be a man" and "own up to" the fact that he "made a big mistake" with his comments. UFC President Dana White was just as quick to re-hire the former WEC bantamweight champion as he was to fire him, after Torres "impressed" the fight boss with the way he handled his business. Are you ready to welcome him back with open arms? Or not yet? Anyone think he shouldn't have been fired in the first place?
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Fuck this.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 11:37 AM EST reply actions
Translation
“I have to say this shit to keep my job with the UFC so I can support my family”
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
And have my manager chime in
With a bunch of prepared comments that do nothing to convince anyone of anything genuine. Why are all celebrities forced to play these games? I’d like to meet the person who believes all these prepared statements…and the people calling for someone’s head when they make a bad joke.
'It is what it is.' = worst saying ever
Non issue to begin with
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 11:42 AM EST reply actions
Glad he was disciplined and hopefully this makes other fighters think twice about there actions and comments
"Exited the cage victorious on friday night. Celebrated the win on saturday night. Rested on sunday. Preparation for my next fight begins monday."-letter19
by letter19 on Dec 29, 2011 11:58 AM EST via mobile reply actions
JBJ will hand out Rashads' punishment
Sarcasm is angers ugly cousin
by jakescissorhands on Dec 29, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Dissapointed he was punished
Free speech shouldn’t be reprimanded whether you like what someone has to say or not.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Dude. Come on. Not. Again.
He was reprimanded by his employer. Your boss and mine would do the same shit. This is not a free speech issue. At. All.
Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.
w/e u say
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
If my boss goes out of his way to look at what I have to say on facebook/twitter
And then fires me over a post that’s not even remotley related to anything I do for the company, then he’s a douche bag piece of shit.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
It's not Dana's reaction to it that irks me
It’s people’s sensitivity getting the best of them that pisses me off. I understand Dana feeling like he has to protect his company’s image, but it’s all petty nonsense that should never be an issue to begin with.
Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile!
by JoshuaThomas on Dec 29, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
It’s gotta be the movies or media or something that teaches people to start crying and whining when someone says things they don’t like. As far as representing the company, like I said, guy was on his own time on his own account. Then you have Rashad who at a press conference to hype a UFC fight making a Penn state joke…
It’s just bullshit politics at play all around.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Like the way this was handled all the way around
Dana needed to make an example of somebody because of the recent bad pub caused by some other fighters and Torres was it. Torres has never been a problem on the Zuffa/WEC payroll to my knowledge and should have been given an opportunity to make amends which he did. Good to see Dana take him back after a short cooling off period to this initial story of Miguel’s firing. When you work for a public company, you do need to watch what you say in public especially concerning issues that are sensitive. Hopefully, good lesson for Zuffa and it’s roster of fighters.
Exactly this ^^
Yes it’s a stupid game, but you have to deal with the reality that this is “how it is”
When you say crazy shit, and you are in the limelight, then you are going to get your balls busted and have to be held accountable.
People are complaining that it’s all fake and insincere, and that may be, but just like you can’t go around the job talking about co workers tits and telling rape jokes, people in the media can’t do that shit either.
And this ^^
My thoughts exactly within these two comments.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright
?? He was on twitter, on his own personal account
it’s nothing at all like “going around the job talking about co workers tits”. He’s on his own time, at home, on his own personal social networking account. It seems ridiculous to me that having a UFC contract means a fighter represents them at all times, 24/7 every second of their lives.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
So....
The point of twitter is to talk to your fans. That’s if you are a famous person. Otherwise get a secret account, like they don’t share their personal email. They are representing themselves with these accounts.
I think the NFL has fined some guys for crazy shit they’ve said on twitter as well. It’s no different for other athletes and sports orgs. Look at Weiner. He had to resign from the house for posting pics of his dick.
I get what you are saying, but if you work in the lime light then when you are out in public you are on the job. So if you go to jail, get in a fight, say some racist shit it’s going to bite you on the ass. Wether you’re an actor, sports guy, politician etc etc. And if it’s a joke that gets misconstrued you just need to be a little more careful
"They are representing THEMSELVES with these accounts."
That part I agree with. If he wants to crack a rape joke on twitter, lose fans and possibly lose sponsors and become the villain at the ufc shows that people tune in to watch lose. Then so be it. He’s only hurting himself. I guarantee not one person that read his comment blamed it on the UFC or changed their view on the UFC because of Miguel Torres.
Just because a cop isn’t kicking down someone’s door and taking them away for an inappropriate comment they had doesn’t mean censorship isn’t going on. It’s just coming from a different source in a different form. I can understand if the guy is at a press conference, fan expo etc.. saying some shit and gets in trouble. He’s on the clock, company policy, he screwed up. I get that. But on his own free time? On his own account? I don’t know how people think it’s reasonable that someone is obligated to behave a certain way or censor themselves at all times, 24/7, just because of who they work for.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
I get censored every day
I don’t get to say everything that crosses my mind. Do you? If somehow a private email got out, or his email got hacked I could maybe see your point. He has a twitter account to promote himself as a fighter who fights in the UFC. The UFC is paying these guys to tweet. They have a cash for tweet program going!
Did you know employers check what you say on twitter and FB before you get hired now? Lot’s do.
Did you know that people get fired every day because of the shit they say?
So why did the NFL fine and suspend Michael Vick? He was fighting dogs on his own time. He became a felon on his own time.
Are you assuming I agree with any of that??
Just because something happens, doesn’t mean I agree with it. My opinion is the same. All of those examples are examples of a society that has gone WAY overboard with censorship and politics. Michael Vick included. Dude did his time, the law punished him, wtf does the NFL have to do with any of that?? Nothing.
An employer’s role in a persons life should stop when the clock stops and they should stay completely out of any employees business.
And of course I don’t say w/e pops into my head at work, that’s common sense. When i’m home and when I’m posting something online that’s a completely different story. I’m not representing them 24/7, I say wtf I want.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Well
I agree with your theory, but my point was he should have been smart enough to know what was coming. This shit has gone down exactly like I thought it would.
“In a perfect world”, but we are far from it.
He can say what the fuck he wants to, just shouldn’t use his real name. Like 99.9% of the people on the internet. Do you think danago’s name is danago? haha
I get where you are coming from, it does suck that people can’t be more true to themselves without people getting but hurt. That said I can see a little of the other side too. Dana just trying to save him self from sponsors leaving hm, and protest groups outside of his offices and events etc etc.
Also too though, since we are all about free speech and freedom, don’t you think Dana can just fire a dude for doing something that offends his sensibilities? Shouldn’t he be able to hire and fire people as he sees fit? Kind of like buisness with the sign that says “we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone” etc
Dana does that as is
And it’s not something I agree with at all, and I don’t think that firing someone and cutting off their source of income has anything to do with exercising free speech. The guy that says something on his own time that has nothing to do with his job and gets punished for it is the one under attack, not the other way around.
And I don’t believe the UFC has suffered or would suffer any embarrassment, loss of sponsors etc.. because of something Miguel Torres said. I just don’t believe it. Sorry. Sell that to someone else.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Its just that he's famous thats all bro..
When you become famous you lose your privacy period.. I personally think its unreasonable but that is the way it has always been… Thats why paparazzi is always trying to catch a slip up, because they know that famous people are frontin in front of the camera…
I devise a plan,
I'm in the trunk as she drives the van,
Aint no disguise, Imma die as a man-- Tupac
Yea, it's a very unrealistic expectation to hold people to
I think most average people are just too dumb to understand that.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Thats exactly what it is...
Its just too easy for people to pass judgement on a celebrity..
I devise a plan,
I'm in the trunk as she drives the van,
Aint no disguise, Imma die as a man-- Tupac
when you're a professional athlete on television you represent your employer 24/7.
That’s just the nature of the business. The UFC isn’t just built on what happens in the Octagon, its also about the fans relationship with their role-models outside of the cage. Fans dont just like fighters for their fighting ability, they grow more attached based on personality…which equals more $$ for Dana.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
That doesn't explain the Chael Sonnen's/Tito Ortiz's of the world
You have plenty of villains in the sport that people tune in to watch lose. It also doesn’t explain how one man on his own personal time on his own twitter account gets fired from a job when another guy makes a similiar joke (worse imo) at a press conference while he’s on the clock tryin to sell a fight.
And again, people need to get this idea that “o this happens, so it’s normal and that’s how it should be.” out of their heads. There’s so much garbage going on all over the world today because of that line of thinking.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Dude you obviously disagree and think that people should be punished and held accountable for what they say at all times 24/7 in their lives
We will never agree.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
shoulda said "held accountable to the law/employer"
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Its weird man I do agree with you but...
If I am running a business I wouldn’t wanna be associated with dumb shit that my employee’s do on their own time.. I mean how can I expect to sell if the people assume that I represent jokes about rape cuz one of my employees does it…
In business you are judged by how people perceive you period.. It’s like if a really Smart fat man invents a new weight loss program that is guaranteed to work.. If he wanted to make some sales he better not be the one who is on ads for it… you know?
I devise a plan,
I'm in the trunk as she drives the van,
Aint no disguise, Imma die as a man-- Tupac
I think the only fair way for that to work
is if the business had to at least present some proof that that particular guys actions were directly affecting their sales. Then at least both sides get a fair shake.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
OD
It’s quite simple. I learned this long ago…the media is evil.
These guys are celebrities. Nobody gives a shit what Joe the produce clerk says on his twitter, but if a politician or someone on tv has an opinion…it gets plastered on every website.
And even if 90% of the people agree with you…you’ll only hear from the 10% that dont. And Ariel Helwani will stand up in a press-conference and ask you questions about that 1 statement you made, that means shit all…but he needs something to write.
And then all of the organizations will come crying to get their publicity and tv-time and the non-ufc fans can say their “i told you so’s”.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
This I can agree with
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
No
I have no idea how you make that determination based off of what I’ve said. Sounds like you are punishing and holding me accountable for what I’ve said though.
It’s more obvious that this is a hot button for your and you aren’t willing to see things from the other side. Or to accept life on life’s terms. I didn’t make the rules.
People shouldn’t say crazy shit and then be up in arms or surprised when it bites them in the ass.
I don't know what you were trying to argue about then
as far as me not willing to see things from the other side, your side is “That’s life, that’s how it is, just accept it.” No thanks.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of which...
Would it be sexist or harrassment to go around on the job and say you want to fuck Arianny’s driverside airbags? I mean, it’s not like she’s the secretary or the accountant. Her job is to be eye candy.
Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
Sig bet with ThePride
Ellenberger beats Sanchez on Feb. 15, 1 week
Yea
To be honest this shows a complete lack of consistency from Dana!! Whether he said sorry and went to groups or not, he said and he must have known beforehand it’s wrong!!
What about Forrest and Rashad!?? Scot free?! These guys start earning some money and start to think they are above the standard working-middle class levels of society!!
I’m pretty sure if I posted the ridiculous comments these idiots posted if be out of a job…the whole celeb game annoys the life out of me!
Money = a second chance! This= WRONG!!!
by the real mo on Dec 29, 2011 12:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Torres was an example
with all of the questionable tweets that have been made by MMA athletes (particularly UFC fighters) I think Dana made Torres an example for future fighters and current ones that have an active social media presence. I highly doubt you’ll see any other zuffa contracted fighters making jokes about rape or sexual abuse.
Sooooooo Paul Daley next?
Booyakasha
@joshbrownshow
by TheJoshBrownSHow on Dec 29, 2011 12:22 PM EST reply actions
Anyone think he shouldn’t have been fired in the first place?
pretty much everyone
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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 29, 2011 12:25 PM EST reply actions
I'm a big pussy and even though what I said wasn't that bad,
The big bad baldhead wolf has got me wrapped around his finger like a little bitch so now I have to say this shit.
Tim Elliot had the best knockout of the year. FACT
Signed
Miguel Torres
Tim Elliot had the best knockout of the year. FACT
by Lance Storm on Dec 29, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
He should have maybe been fined, but never fired.
The double standards with Dana are absurd. He is the one who encouraged Twitter to begin with.
by BNF on Dec 29, 2011 12:50 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
The lesson here is:
Rape victims hate “Surprise Vans”..
I devise a plan,
I'm in the trunk as she drives the van,
Aint no disguise, Imma die as a man-- Tupac
Or
Raping is not OK even in surprise vans.
I devise a plan,
I'm in the trunk as she drives the van,
Aint no disguise, Imma die as a man-- Tupac
What I really wish is that...
…they made his return to the UFC contingent on him finally getting a normal fucking haircut.
yeah he deserves a bullet for that mullet.
I devise a plan,
I'm in the trunk as she drives the van,
Aint no disguise, Imma die as a man-- Tupac
People make mistakes
Miguel made a mistake and he got fired for it. But unlike a lot of guys, he owned up to it, educated himself, and made amends ,which is really just being a man about the whole thing. A man is defined by his actions and Miguel, to me, has defined himself as a man because as a man, we all make mistakes through words or actions at some point. Whether or not he should’ve been fired in the first place is debatable but what’s important is that he’s back in the UFC, he’s training and moving forward in a positive direction. I think MT should be a shining example of what one does when one makes a mistake, they deal with it, learn from it, make it right, then move past it in a positive direction while learning something important in the process. Much respect for Miguel and I hope to see him get a title shot soon. A battle between him and Dominick Cruz would be a great fight!!
Double-Standard
Was watching Russell Peters on tv recently, doing a Christmas Special with a small live audience.
So, he does this joke about how he thinks Santa should always be white. Then he impersonates a brown Santa…he says it just sounds weird. Chinese Santa? nah.
Then he says “black santa? nah, the gifts are supposed to go into the house, not out.”
Everyone laughs. Camera pans the audience, showing a black lady laughing.
I dont get it. If anyone else told that joke (not a comedian)…they’d get slapped, sued, shun by co-workers, society, labelled a racist, have to take sensitivity classes.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
There is a time and place for everything.
I devise a plan,
I'm in the trunk as she drives the van,
Aint no disguise, Imma die as a man-- Tupac

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