UFC 141 predictions, preview and analysis
UFC 141: "Lesnar vs. Overeem" is all set to blow the roof off the MGM Grand Garden Arena tomorrow night (Dec. 30, 2011) in Las Vegas, Nevada, featuring a colossal heavyweight showdown between Brock Lesnar and Alistair Overeem.
The big story heading into tomorrow night's mixed martial arts (MMA) extravaganza surrounds the heavyweight headliner, which will undoubtedly have serious implications on the division's title picture.
Expect Junior dos Santos to be watching this one with vested interest.
Also getting their hands dirty in "Sin City" are Nate Diaz and Donald Cerrone. If the "Cowboy" can wrangle his sixth straight win, it may be time to start discussing his place among the 155-pound title contenders.
But don't expect Diaz to make it easy for him.
The UFC claims Lesnar vs. Overeem "doesn't get any bigger than this," which in turn means my fair, balanced and always objective analysis will also be pretty big.
Follow me after the jump to have your feelings hurt (not kidding).
265 lbs.: Brock Lesnar (5-2) vs. Alistair Overeem (35-11)
Nostradumbass predicts: As a mixed martial arts fan, you should be embarrassed that this fight was ever made. In fact, if I wasn't so busy copying and pasting other people's news stories without their express written consent, I would be firing off a letter to the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) lambasting them for ever sanctioning this freak-show fight.
In what universe is it okay to have a guy with seven pro fights, who hasn't competed in over a year AND recently underwent major intestinal surgery, face off against a three-time world champion with nearly 70 professional fights between MMA and K-1?
It's ludicrous.
Forget about Lesnar's 14-month layoff. Let's even forget about his major surgery. What happened in his last two fights? Your answer should be: "He got lit up like a Hasbro Lite-Brite by two guys with good stand-up." I know Brock's Jocks are quick to point out he won the fight against Shane Carwin, but that's because "The Engineer" was so utterly exhausted from pounding Lesnar's face in for five minutes he ended up with the guard of a DeathClutch grappling dummy.
And speaking of inanimate objects, Lesnar was so concerned with Overeem's striking, widely recognized as the best in the heavyweight division, he brought in a bunch of fat wrestlers to push around in his private compound in Minnesota.
No disrespect to Chris Tuschererererer and Cole Konrad, who could pin me like a poster in .0348 milliseconds, but why they are within 100 miles of his gym is a mystery to me. Where are the strikers?
Pat Barry? Really?
"Get Hype" should get lost, because Overeem is a foot taller than him, making "HD" a poor substitute for the towering Dutchman.
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot about Tim Hague. They brought in Tim Hague to help Lesnar train. The same "Thrashing Machine" that went 1-4 inside the Octagon and got knocked out twice. I guess I should also mention that while he was there, they basically used him as chum.
Here's the bottom line: Brock Lesnar can't take a punch. That's not me acting like an Overeem fanboy, it's a proven fact. It's on film. He stays conscious because he's got a granite chin, no question, but the second you hit him, he crumbles like a stale Entenmann's coffee cake.
I'm supposed to pick this guy against the best striker in the business?
Well, Brock has the takedown. Yes, he most certainly does. And Overeem has 19 submission wins. C'mon folks, it's right there in black and white.
Lesnar doesn't have the experience, the skill set or the heart to win this fight. He's a big, strong bully who does very well when he gets his way. When he doesn't, that's when things begin to fall apart.
Overeem owns three world titles and a ten fight winning streak. If you're best argument against him revolves around a fight from the PRIDE days when he was young and starving himself to make 205, then boy, are you in trouble.
"Demolition Man" is destined to become the UFC heavyweight champion. His first round knockout of Brock Lesnar at UFC 141 will play out like a teaser trailer for his 2012 title win.
Prediction: Alistair Overeem def. Brock Lesnar via TKO
155 lbs.: Donald Cerrone (17-3) vs. Nate Diaz (14-7)
Nostradumbass predicts: For my money, Jon Jones has been the best fighter of 2011. But you could make a pretty convincing argument that Donald Cerrone is right up there as well and a finish over Nate Diaz might even make him number two.
What kills me about the "Cowboy" critics is how quickly they dismiss his ascent atop the 155-pound mountain because of a handful of losses under the WEC banner. It's almost as if some fans have resigned themselves to the fact that fighters never improve, learn from their mistakes or just get better after months and years of training.
It happens -- and it's time to give Cerrone his due.
Diaz is by no means a pushover and he'll make this thing a fight, no question, but he's kind of like Nick-lite. You see flashes of the Diaz greatness, but it just doesn't have the same flavor.
Part of his problem is he never seems to show any urgency when he competes and that can be the deciding factor in a three round fight. And his knick-knack-paddywhack-pass-your-brother-a-bone style of striking won't be enough to befuddle Cerrone -- and it certainly won't finish him.
The danger for Donald here is the ground game.
He's no slouch himself with 13 submission wins but it's just a dangerous place to be against any Cesar Gracie-trained fighter. The good news is I don't think either one of them is interested in taking it there.
There's been a lot of bravado heading into this lightweight affair: pushing, shoving, cursing, you know, all the standard activities that come with a Diaz fight (or family reunion), but when the cage door closes, it's going to be Cerrone by judge's nod.
He'll control the pace, the center of the Octagon, and ultimately, the decision.
Prediction: Donald Cerrone def. Nick Diaz via unanimous decision
170 lbs.: Jon Fitch (23-3-1) vs. Johny Hendricks (11-1)
Nostradumbass predicts: The fall of AKA continues in 2011 as Jon Fitch is going to be upset tomorrow night by the powerful punches of Johny Hendricks. Can't you just see it? Fitch spends a little too much time dicking around on his feet, gets tagged, clings to a leg instinctively and gets hammer-fisted until the ref intervenes. Then he gets up and protests vehemently while Hendricks runs around the cage screaming like a banshee.
But let's not get ahead of ourselves.
I mentioned earlier that most fighters who compete on a regular basis will improve and get better. It seems to me like Fitch is getting worse. His record states otherwise but man, I just haven't seen a fight from him in the past few years that tells me he's still top of the food chain and now he's coming off major surgery.
In short, Hendricks is in the right place at the right time.
Aside from nine straight fights without a finish, Fitch doesn't have the power to hurt Johny on the feet, so that makes his wrestling the primary weapon in this fight. Oh, by the way, Hendricks is two-time NCAA Division I national champion.
Doh!
The simplest way to put it is this: Hendricks is on his way up and Fitch is on his way down. The former has half the experience as the latter, but twice the momentum.
This one doesn't get out of the first round.
Final prediction: Johny Hendricks def. Jon Fitch via TKO
205 lbs.: Alexander Gustafsson (12-1) vs. Vladimir Matyushenko (26-5)
Nostradumbass predicts: There's been a lot of talk about how Nate Diaz and Donald Cerrone will take home "Fight of the Night," but I think a lot of mixed martial arts fans are giving the light heavyweight scrap between Alexander Gustafsson and Vladimir Matyushenko a second look.
It's fixin' to be a helluva fight.
"The Janitor" has done a pretty good job of cutting the legs out from under a couple of ladder climbers in the prospect-rich 205-pound division, namely Jason Brilz and Alexandre Ferreira. True, he was victimized by Jon Jones prior to that, but knocking a guy for losing to "Bones" is like making fun of the Bears for losing to the Packers.
Besides, it might have done him some good, because he's come back with a vengeance.
He'll need it against the Swede, who also suffered a setback after getting strangled by Phil Davis but bounced back to win three straight and beat the brakes off the tough-as-nails Matt Hamill last August.
This is gonna be a dogfight and closely contested through two-and-a-half rounds, but somewhere in the latter part of the final frame Gustafsson is going to pull ahead and finish the old dog with some of his new tricks.
Two great talents, one great fight. The fans are the real winners in this one.
Final prediction: Alexander Gustafsson def. Vladimir Matyushenko via TKO
145 lbs.: Jim Hettes (9-0) vs. Nam Phan (17-9)
Nostradumbass predicts: A lot of fight fans haven't had the pleasure of seeing Jim Hettes compete and come tomorrow night, they'll understand why he's being touted as the next big thing at featherweight. Living on the East Coast, I was able to catch him at Cage Fight last year and let me tell you, "The Kid" is for real.
Nine wins, nine submissions.
His last one came at UFC on Versus 5 when he strangled Bruce Leroy into a second round tap and it wouldn't surprise me to see a repeat performance against Phan, who is best known for his pair of bouts against Leonard Garcia.
I know the former Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 12 hopeful has kind of been everyone's 145-pound darling, but outside of some decent stand-up and a ton of heart, he's not exactly "in the mix" in his respective division.
Hettes will see to that.
Phan has a chance on the feet in any fight not involving Jose Aldo, but it's only a matter of time before Hettes gets this thing to the ground. Once he does, it's merely academic.
Final prediction: Jim Hettes def. Nam Phan via submission
That's a wrap, folks.
For previews and predictions on the preliminary card fights click here and here. To see all the odds and betting lines for UFC 141 click here and remember to come check us out after the show for all the latest results, recaps and coverage of "Lesnar vs. Overeem."
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only one problem Jesse, Diaz will smash Cowboy
PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING is FUCKING RETARDED
by Nokimono on Dec 29, 2011 1:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
especially if he is fighting Nick.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Who knows?
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Shit, JH. This is one of your better write ups in quite a while. Your arguments are very convincing.
"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)
He very nearly had me believing that Brock will actually lose to Overroid
wait, no he didn’t.
At least I am better than kevjack at making picks. I am satisfied with that.
That's the thing
Jesse always makes me second guess my picks.
If I get divorced, I want Jesse’s convincing ass acting as my attorney.
Well, you know…if I get divorced AGAIN.
Where were you lasrt time? I got HOSED.
Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
George Carlin
by Scottidog on Dec 29, 2011 4:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I hope you're right
But the way Jesse predicted Cowboy’s win is probably the most likely. Diaz has a hard time with very skilled fighters who the push the pace.
Gutsy call on Hendricks finishing Fitch
Told it like it is when it came to Overeem vs Lesnar though.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 1:07 PM EST reply actions
Still on the fence....
on the Lesnar/Overeem fight. I’m rooting for Brock, but my brain says Overeem.
a hell of a lot of questions going into that fight im staying firmly on the fence
by steady2wheels on Dec 29, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
How can you root for Mr.Chicken Shit into Chicken Salad?
Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
Sig bet with ThePride
Ellenberger beats Sanchez on Feb. 15, 1 week
He's so awesome he will turn horsemeat into chicken shit.
At least I am better than kevjack at making picks. I am satisfied with that.
Holy shit
did Brock refuse an interview with you by calling you a little piss-ant or something? Straight BOMBED him here. I actually went with Lesnar because the beefy bumrush has to work sooner or later and Overeem has this habit of taking his time and letting his opponents stay in the fight far too long. Should be fun either way.
i agree
ok his stand up is shit but in both of his last fights he went for the td straight away,didnt get it against Carwin but did against Cain who managed to get back up.Dont you think its possible he takes overeem down inside 20 seconds and keeps him there
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Possible
Just not likely
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
id say Overeem has more chance of stuffing the td though than geting back up
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
i think the main issue for me is
That the gap between the two in striking is WAY bigger than the gap between them in grappling. Brock only has one chance at winning imo and he’s totally shit out of luck if he can’t get a TD. If Overeem gets taken down, I think he’ll deal with it a lot better than Lesnar will deal with getting punched in the face.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
ON paper you're right but Overreem has been underwelming to say the least.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
+1
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law
I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.
The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.
Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.
The idea that Overeem is just going to stuff Lesnar’s takedown is such a ridiculous thought that it really makes me wonder what people are watching. Overeem has been fighting cans for the most part of his HW career and hasn’t been in the cage with a wrestler like Brock maybe ever.
The guy folds under preassure and looked like garbage and was hit at will against Werdum. Brock is a monster and he’s going to be able to dictate and take the fight where ever he wants whenever he wants. It’s going to be like a man playing with a child and all of those impressive muscles on Overeem ain’t going to help him when he’s getting gnp into oblivion.
"@bigfootsilva, I want to tell you a joke so funny it will make your head grow. It goes like this..Oh wait, I see you have already heard it." -Chael Sonnen
If or maybe when Brock gets him down I don't expect him to get back up.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
He'll get back up at the end of the rd =P
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
True he might need the ref to help if Brock's choked out unconscious on top of him
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Overreem isn't choking out Brock.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Who knows?
That’s something I could see happening, Brock rushing in, getting the TD and falling straight into a guillotine. I don’t believe the whole “well his neck is just too big.” argument.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
I dont' see it happening.
Much more likely to eat a knee or something.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Uppercut if Overeems smart
If he misses with the knee, he’s down and staying down. Frank Mir agrees, lol
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law
I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.
The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.
Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.
I think that Reems arms are too big would be the real question
Sig bets with umabig:
Condit beats Diaz on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Akiyama beats Shields on Feb. 26, 2 week
by enzo-enormous on Dec 29, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
"The guy folds under preassure"
Just like Brock when he gets punched in the face.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
both guys fold under pressure, we know tha already.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 29, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Overreem is much more chinny than Brock, that a proven fact.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
they both land hard rights at the same time, of the two, Id bet that Overreem is the one that goes out. Randy agrees
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law
I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.
The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.
Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.
Overeem is a k1 champion. He has fought Badr, the Brit doesn’t fold under pressure.
Bobby Southworth
by danago on Dec 29, 2011 1:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah but that's not even the same sport.
Maybe it’s the gloves I don’t know, but if he gets put on his back and force fed cinder blocks he won’t last long.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
He’s been in there with Badri and beaten him. That’s valuable experience, it will do him good in any combat sport.
The Brit is about as seasoned as they come, he isn’t losing this one. Overeem via k-1 level beat down.
Bobby Southworth
by danago on Dec 29, 2011 1:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I got Brock but I wouldn't be surprised if Overreem won.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Brockle Snar all the way via GnP
For as much praise as Overreems “K-1 level” striking gets, he’s all hooks and knees. Jose Aldo IMO has more impressive striking.
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law
I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.
The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.
Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.
I'd agree with that.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
That's K-1, this is MMA.
In MMA he tapped due to strikes from a BJJ LW.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 29, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
LW?
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Just checking.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
I was honestly concerned at first I never follow Overreem very thoroughly.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
nor would you need to
Can’t name anyone he’s ever beaten outside of K-1 thats a top 10 fighter.
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law
I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.
The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.
Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.
i think Brocks gonna come out like a madman again
but this time it will suit him.Overeem is no Cain or even Carwin.Brock should come out bullrush him and take him down then relax a bit,keep positon and wear on Overeem for a bit keeping the referee from standing it back up then explode again towards the end of the round.Hell Overeem is sub savvy but hes no Mir or Nog off his back,Brock gets him down early he either gets stopped or his gas tank is completely gone by the end of the round.2nd round tko looks good to me
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
The idea that you think Brock will have an easy time tackling someone as big and strong and him compared to Cain or randy and zombie Carwin is absurd .
His wrestling is high in technique and I think a fresh overeem can meet the lesnar train halfway and push him off like what he did to Brett Rogers just not as emphatic .
Beat cheeks
by wooly shambler on Dec 29, 2011 2:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Isn't high in technique **
Beat cheeks
by wooly shambler on Dec 29, 2011 2:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
behave wooly ur better than that
to say overeems wrestling is on a par with those guys is ludicrous to say the least.He is big and strong but if Brock can take Cain down who is MILES ahead of overeem wrestling wise he can certainly take alistar down
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
I’m not saying overeems wrestling is good , I’m saying Brock’s wrestling for mma is mediocre but the fact that’ he’s a gorilla in human form makes it almost unstoppable …. Against lighter less powerful people . Overeem is big and strong enough to stop a few of the attempts Brock is going to try and that’s all he needs to kill Brock’s confidence . Cain is a much better all around wrestler than both but due to Brock’s lack in pure technique , overeem can compensate for his lacking with his immense strength and leverage and stature
Beat cheeks
by wooly shambler on Dec 29, 2011 2:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Reem's base is higher than Brock
and he is not a functionally as strong.
Sure all that muscle looks nice, but I would be willing to bet Brock is a much stronger human being. His muscle mass fits his bodt, whereas Reem’s is superimposed onto his slim frame.
Vote Ron Paul 2012
Excellent analysis!
On top of Brock being significantly stronger, he has also been overhead pressing and choke-slamming 300+ lb men for years and doing it with ease. Pro-wrestling may be fake, but those guys in the WWE actually do lift each other up without help from the other “launching.” Brock handles Reem’s size with ease and will be much quicker than Reem will most likely be able to keep up with.
Man, I need a new sig!
by Danas A Crossdresser on Dec 29, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
thats possible but in the short term imo
a lot of clinching and jostling for position will suit Brock much more due to his muscle mass being more functional.Listen im not writing off Overeem no friggin way but i think hes got to put Brock away early to win,grappler beats striker 9/10
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Yea I think Brock's the stronger human being I just think overeem is enough of a monster to fight fire with fire
And then unload on him with those 5 oz gloves
Beat cheeks
by wooly shambler on Dec 29, 2011 2:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree with u i think brock is way stronger n beating brett rogers isnt shit. Werdum i think mayb won that fight overeem hasnt impressd me the only thing he got is fight experience
by chicken845 on Dec 29, 2011 2:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agree
I dont think brock will get him down. I think reem would have more success with tdd than popping back up after being taken down..
by dragonassault on Dec 29, 2011 1:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I can all of That Happening......
But I like,
Overeem KO 1st
Diaz Sub 2nd
Fitch Sub 1st
The Janitor UD (upset)
Phan SD
Booyakasha
@joshbrownshow
by TheJoshBrownSHow on Dec 29, 2011 1:20 PM EST reply actions
Fitch by sub ???
That’s a whole lotta derp
Beat cheeks
by wooly shambler on Dec 29, 2011 2:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Super derp
Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
Sig bet with ThePride
Ellenberger beats Sanchez on Feb. 15, 1 week
you are too quick to dismiss Brock and his TD prowess I like the reem but I think he may be a little overrated that may change tomorrow if he wins in a dominant fashion
all your other picks are spot on although with Fitch you never know once he gets that take down its usually nap time…for me at least
"Remember kids, don't forget to bring your towels...you wanna get high?"- Towlie
by rooseveltdunn on Dec 29, 2011 1:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This kid struggled to get Bruce Leeroy down in the 1st, but he is going to tap Nam Phan.
Lmao
Tim Elliot had the best knockout of the year. FACT
M god you better hope Lesnar doesn't win...
cause this article is going to look very very foolish
Sakuraba beats Silva, Aoki would beat Miller and Vitor Belfort didn't deserve his title shot - In my opinion, the craziest points I've read on this site...
This article already looks foolish after Lesnar wins it’s going to look even more laughable. I mean that predicition seems to be written by the biggest Overeem lover in the world it’s so embarrasing I can’t even take it seriously.
"@bigfootsilva, I want to tell you a joke so funny it will make your head grow. It goes like this..Oh wait, I see you have already heard it." -Chael Sonnen
Your reply already looks foolish and after Overeem wins, it’s going to look even more laughable. I mean, your reply and prediction seems to be by the biggest Brock “The Cock” lover in the world that it’s going to be so embarrassing that I can’t even take it seriously!! Just saying ..
by Powerhouse33 on Dec 29, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
He's been very wrong before, it's a prediction.
And predictions are anything but a guarantee, in MMA anything can and will happen so it can’t be held against anyone.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 29, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Lesnar is finished this is a last grab for cash
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Do you even know where you are fucking at man?
See: THE FUCKING TITLE
Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.
Lesnar KO 2
The fight starts out slow as Overeem is hesitant to let his hands go for fear of the takedown and Brock is hesitant to try a take down for fear of getting tagged. Reem throws a wild punch, misses, and gets taken down immediately.
Brock then rides Overeem, making him struggle to escape, all the while landing some occasional GNP. The fighters are stood up at the end of the round, Overeem will be gassed.
He’ll survive the round, but be taken down immediately to open Round 2, and Lesnar tees off on him, earning a 2nd round KO.
Cerrone wins an easy decision over Nate
Fitch wins a UD in a stinker
Gustafson KO 3 Matyushenko
Hettes UD Phan
TFK
Check out the MMA Forums at http://www.boxingfanatics.com/forums/f24/
Aint nothing easy about fighting a Diaz
Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
Sig bet with ThePride
Ellenberger beats Sanchez on Feb. 15, 1 week
You think this goes to the ground?
Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
Sig bet with ThePride
Ellenberger beats Sanchez on Feb. 15, 1 week
Just saying
There IS something easy about fighting a Diaz.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
Taking down a diaz just causes ur self problems
High level black belts get subbed by them on the ground, takedowns are no guarantee
Pro Sig record:10-5
1 Month sig bet with 10th Degree Whitebelt that DJ does NOT win the FLW tournament
Sig bet with KaleJohnCox on Alves-Kamp. ALVES
Sig bet with Unambig on Sanchez-Ellenberger. SANCHEZ
Bring ABB back to Mania
Stockton Motherfuckers
"High level"?
Like…?
Pellegrino? Neer?
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 30, 2011 4:07 AM EST up reply actions
Kurt is a very good black belt
i was at grapplers quest when he got inducted into their HOF, his record in GQ(including superfights against world champs) was 304-5. His BJJ is excellent, and Diaz tapped him. Calm ur Diaz hatred, hate will lead u to the darkside
Pro Sig record:10-5
1 Month sig bet with 10th Degree Whitebelt that DJ does NOT win the FLW tournament
Sig bet with KaleJohnCox on Alves-Kamp. ALVES
Sig bet with Unambig on Sanchez-Ellenberger. SANCHEZ
Bring ABB back to Mania
Stockton Motherfuckers
Satoru Kitaoka and Drew Fickett also subbed Pellegrino
Not that big a deal to me.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 30, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
I think Brock is going to lose as well
But I think Fitch with beat Hendricks by decision
Sig bets with umabig:
Condit beats Diaz on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Akiyama beats Shields on Feb. 26, 2 week
i'm still picking brock but all this analysis is getting me nervous
the only fight i’m sure about is fitch over hendricks
pride never die.
Dumbass you are the fucking man !
When I looked into my crystal balls I saw the same prediction of annihilation for the Reem. Well played sir .
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 1:33 PM EST reply actions
I stopped reading the Brock vs Overeem predictions.
So bias it’s laughable that it’s supposed to be taken serious. Or is it?
Maybe he was being sarcastic.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Shut up dude.
You call other people a troll when all you do is post dude over the top nut hugging comments about a guy with one decent Heavyweight win.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 29, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Pipe down !
Enough from the peanut gallery.
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
So I'm from the peanut gallery just because I'm not in love with some ugly juicer?
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 29, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Which ugly juicer?
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Does it matter ?
who cares , shift you alliance to the dark side. Reem will reign supreme in 2012 !!!!!
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
I think Brock is gonna get him.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
I'll wait till he proves himself.
I just can’t get with it if his only argument is a title in a different sport and wins over cans.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 29, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
If....
You watched him fight you would fall in love with his balls too . From k-1 to karate dick smacking cans in Japan he is exciting !!
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
hey cyclone is your name a kamen rider W reference?
"Remember kids, don't forget to bring your towels...you wanna get high?"- Towlie
by rooseveltdunn on Dec 29, 2011 2:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
lol I figured been watching Fourze? costume is wacky but the story line is dope
watched all the shows except some of the old ones from the seventies
"Remember kids, don't forget to bring your towels...you wanna get high?"- Towlie
by rooseveltdunn on Dec 29, 2011 2:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I actually got into Kamen Rider big after watching Fourze instead of just liking it somewhat like before.
The old ones good for a laugh some times. But I been watching OOO lately.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 29, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
OOO was pretty good too check out kabuto and den o both great shows
"Remember kids, don't forget to bring your towels...you wanna get high?"- Towlie
by rooseveltdunn on Dec 29, 2011 2:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'll do that for sure after I finish OOO and W.
I tried watching Decade but it was kinda meh.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 29, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
a bit fucking harsh.....
but i agree on everything apart from fitch getting stopped in the first and diaz v cowboy….
you idiots have turned me into a troll, i hope you're fucking happy......
God I hope Fitch gets TKOed.
I just keep going back to when Hendricks fought Story. Fitch just does that better. But then again he has been out hurt as well.
by BNF on Dec 29, 2011 1:40 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Fitch with probably lay on him or smoother him.
But ya never know, and I sure would love to see Fitch lose.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 29, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
The thing is, Fitch is the one that hasn't evolved and he's doing great.
He’s only really good at wrestling, yet that’s basically all he needs.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 29, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
His striking has looked improved, he did well against BJ on the feet.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
together
lets pray he get knoched the fuck out
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
I think Fitch will just put him up agaisn't the cage immediately.
Johnny will have no time or space to let his hands go unfortunately.
I want to see Hendricks come out wrestling
He has purposely stayed away from it. It cost him against Story, but he had teh chops at one point to outwrestle anyone at 170, even GSP.
Vote Ron Paul 2012
It sorta worked for BJ.
Good idea. Has Jon fought a top notch wrestler like Johny? I don’t think so.
Fuck that I hope it's a 15 minutes hug fest with my boy Jon on top
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Nobody hopes for that
Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
Sig bet with ThePride
Ellenberger beats Sanchez on Feb. 15, 1 week
i do
Pro Sig record:10-5
1 Month sig bet with 10th Degree Whitebelt that DJ does NOT win the FLW tournament
Sig bet with KaleJohnCox on Alves-Kamp. ALVES
Sig bet with Unambig on Sanchez-Ellenberger. SANCHEZ
Bring ABB back to Mania
Stockton Motherfuckers
i’ll take brock you take reem? you up for it
Machida drinks pee pee
"This is the THIRD time that The Pride has left me broken and bleeding. When will I realize that I cannot best him?"
2 week sig and pic bet with Kalejohncox Condit over Diaz
i have brock
Pro Sig record:10-5
1 Month sig bet with 10th Degree Whitebelt that DJ does NOT win the FLW tournament
Sig bet with KaleJohnCox on Alves-Kamp. ALVES
Sig bet with Unambig on Sanchez-Ellenberger. SANCHEZ
Bring ABB back to Mania
Stockton Motherfuckers
how about cerrone diaz
i got cowboy
Machida drinks pee pee
"This is the THIRD time that The Pride has left me broken and bleeding. When will I realize that I cannot best him?"
2 week sig and pic bet with Kalejohncox Condit over Diaz
Good picks except for Overeem and Jim.
Yea they’re not winning. Overeem’s cardio sucks. Adding muscle does not equal additional cardio. And lol at 19 submissions. You dont lie when you say you just look up records on sherdog or wikipedia. As far as Jim, i like his fighting style but he’s outclassed on the feet and has not takedowns …maybe ok in the clinch but nam has the skills to defend and he slows down as the fight goes.
Big Nog for Life
Tibau's destiny is at FW
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 29, 2011 1:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I say Overeem might get past Brock due to his lack in striking experience.
But I doubt he can be a fighter with good MMA striking, Overeem leaves openings that even I’ve seen and I’m no fighter. And those openings are because he defends strikes the same way he does in K-1.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 29, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Man i dont for a single second buy into his "K-1" skills making him anything special.
And overeem’s “K-1” skills (that doesnt even mean anything) arent as hyped up as they are. He was severly flawed during the GPs. I mean his main offense was a super close phone booth type range and cornering guys and battering them while imposing his size. But anytime guys could create distance on him they ate him up. Even werdum showed that if you keep your range on him, a 2 yr MT black belt you bought from Cordeiro will keep you safe from the all mighty K-1 champ.
Big Nog for Life
Tibau's destiny is at FW
Leader of the church of Bones Jones (let your hater soul be saved and join)
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 29, 2011 2:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Good points but Brock does not have the skill or head to even acknowledge creating any distance, head movement, etc. So you see Brock closing distance, getting the TD and grinding out a gassed Reem?
"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)
I see Overeem trying to close the gap and and brock taking him down when he does..
Once on the mat, I think brock will remain pretty safe and will just wear him out within a round at most if he doesnt batter him enough to make him quit.
Big Nog for Life
Tibau's destiny is at FW
Leader of the church of Bones Jones (let your hater soul be saved and join)
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 29, 2011 3:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
only 2 out of the 19 subs are submissions to strikes
17, including guillotines, armbars, kimuras, really isn’t all that bad.
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by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Only a handful against legitimate competition.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
ding! ding! ding!!!!
Big Nog for Life
Tibau's destiny is at FW
Leader of the church of Bones Jones (let your hater soul be saved and join)
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 29, 2011 2:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Even Heath Herring managed to stop a Lesnar TD in rd 2 after he was all busted up from the first punch
Randy stopped him and controlled him in the clinch and he weighed 40-50 lbs less. Carwin stopped him too. And you guys honestly believe a guy that’s just as big and probably just as strong can’t stop him from getting a TD? Sometimes you guys really amaze me.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Again those guys have cardio and two of them had wrestling experience.
Overeem quite frankly has never fought someone with explosive takedowns. Well he did, Arona….and it turned out bad. Brock’s ability to get Cain down who IMO is the best wrestler in the UFC HW division (until cormier gets there) tells me that Megareem doesnt stop him.
Big Nog for Life
Tibau's destiny is at FW
Leader of the church of Bones Jones (let your hater soul be saved and join)
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 29, 2011 2:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
but the difference is that cain was not afraid of the takedown
you bet overeem will be defending
that being said i still have brock
pride never die.
The Lesnar fans are grasping at straws imo
The guy has 7 pro fights, is comin off surgery and his SECOND year long lay off, shows a complete inability to defend himself correctly after taking a solid hit and somehow Overeem, probably one of the best, if not the best striker in the game has no chance??
Seriously?
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Dislike them both
But let’s be honest: Overeem looked like shit against Werdum.
Also, he is NOT the best striker in the game, in MMA OR K-1.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
AND LESNAR LOOKED SO AWESOME AGAINST CAIN
I see your point now..
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by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Wait Cain is better, I forgot which symbol means better.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 29, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
You point the wide end to the greater
Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
Sig bet with ThePride
Ellenberger beats Sanchez on Feb. 15, 1 week
Thank you.
It’s been a while since I had to use it.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 29, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
Cain is better than Overeem
And unlike Overeem, Brock didn’t gas from literally nothing.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
You're right he didn't have time to gas
He got his ass beat before the end of the first rd.
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by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Brock has never gassed, not even going two or three rounds.
Werdum never pushed the pace or did anything cardio intensive and Overeem still gassed.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
best striker in the game
You mean the one who just got outstruck by a guy that is known for BJJ?
Vote Ron Paul 2012
I don't get why ppl keep bringing that up
How many times did Werdum flop to his back in that fight? It was obvious he wanted nothing to do with the striking.
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by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
cuz
Werdumb fought like a bitch and made a mockery of himself
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
So what? Did he rock him? Did he hurt him?
What kind of strikes are we talkin about? The kind where you throw a couple punch’s then flop to your back to avoid counter punch’s???
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by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
I could see your point if Werdum was going for TD's and then out striking Reem
Mixing it up and showing some real skills, but he was throwing punch’s and then flopping to his back to avoid getting hit. That doesn’t say shit to me.
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by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
It says to me
That Reem’s “vaunted” K-1 striking should have been better in initiating strikes, countering what Werdum was doing, or avoiding his horrible attempts at engaging.
Instead we got what we got. Two guys that didn’t want to really engage the other in their strength and the guy who was more aggresive, and didn’t get taken down, won.
It was a horrible fight, and while Reem did win, he sure as fuck did not look like the fighter you guys that believe he will win easily make him out to be.
Vote Ron Paul 2012
werdumb
is the reason for that bull shit fight quit cying
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
You are obsessed with me today...
Keep your chin up. I got something to unload on it. Then you will be obsessed forever. Peter North ain’t got nothing on me…
Vote Ron Paul 2012
what the fuck
keep your discussion to fridays fights
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Overreem wasn't pressing the action at all in that fight.
They both shit the bed.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
best striker in the game?
ive got jds on line 1
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
tell him to call me
so i can tell him Reem is gonna kick his ass
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
And Brock has how many wins against legitimate competition? I’d say 1 which is Carwin and only because Carwin blew a load.
by Powerhouse33 on Dec 29, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Couture and Mir, both current or former heavyweight champions.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Oh they're bums but they're less bummy than
Buck Rogers, Tony Sylvester and James Thompson.
Big Nog for Life
Tibau's destiny is at FW
Leader of the church of Bones Jones (let your hater soul be saved and join)
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 29, 2011 2:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
hey
Sylvester was on a tear before the reem fight
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
One fight removed from loss to Chris Tuchscherer
No winning records among three previous wins.
Try again.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
And you call those legitimate wins? Current/Former Champions, big deal.. Not taking anything away from Mir and Couture, but they are has beens and were has beens when Lesnar defeated them. Had Lesnar fought them when they were in their prime, Im pretty sure Brock would losses to both of those on his record.
by Powerhouse33 on Dec 29, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Mir was a has-been?
He was on a three-fight win streak, genius. Couture just beat Tim Sylvia.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
That’s right, Mir a has been. Have you bothered to look at his “3 fight win streak”? #3 – A washed up Cro Cop #2 – A washed up "Fat boy Nelson and #1 – A washed up Nogueira that damn near knocked Mir’s has been ass out!
by Powerhouse33 on Dec 29, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
He WAS on a three-fight winstreak before his fight with Brock
Learn to read.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Oh my bad .. Well Patrick, learn how to read MIr’s record before you say he was on a “3 fight win streak” because …. He had a win against a sorry ass Dan Christison on July 8, 2006, a loss to Brandon Vera on November 18, 2006 and then a win against a sorry ass Anthony Hardonk on August 25th, 2007 and then …… he fought Brock Lesnar.. How is that a 3 fight win streak? Freakin Moron!
by Powerhouse33 on Dec 29, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Right, because Brock won the first fight with Mir
Oh wait, he only has one win over Mir, and guess what Mir’s record was going into that fight?
Loss 12-4 Brock Lesnar TKO (punches) UFC 100 July 11, 2009 2 1:48 Las Vegas, Nevada, United States For the Unified UFC Heavyweight Championship.
Win 12-3 Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira TKO (punches) UFC 92 December 27, 2008 2 1:57 Las Vegas, Nevada, United States Won the UFC Interim Heavyweight Championship.
Win 11-3 Brock Lesnar Submission (kneebar) UFC 81 February 2, 2008 1 1:30 Las Vegas, Nevada, United States Submission of the Night; Submission of the Year (2008)
Win 10-3 Antoni Hardonk Submission (kimura) UFC 74 August 25, 2007 1 1:17 Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Huh? “Brock won the first fight with Mir”? Dude, WTF are you talking about?
by Powerhouse33 on Dec 29, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
“Right, because Brock won the first fight with Mir
Oh wait, he only has one win over Mir, and guess what Mir’s record was going into that fight?”
Are you incapable of understanding sarcasm?
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Actually I am when you defend someone who like Mir who hasn’t fought a worthy opponent in quite some time and is a has been. Feed Mir to JDS, Cain, Lesnar x 3 and guaranteed Mir have to chalk up another loss.
by Powerhouse33 on Dec 29, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
So you are saying Mir is the 4th best HW MMA fighter in the world?
I would probably agree with that. 4-6.
Vote Ron Paul 2012
You called me a moron for saying Mir was on a three-fight winstreak before Brock beat him
Care to apologize now that I’ve proven I was right?
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Don't get the Mir hate.
Dude does win and win convincingly.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
That's the thing.
If they hate a guy they want him to lose. Winning doesn’t get you respect, I still hate Jon Jones and he’s amazing in the cage.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 29, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I hate him as a human being
Respect him as a fighter.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Apologize after it was YOUR bad and after saying “learn to read” and your remark of “genius”? You are the one that said he was on a 3 fight win streak “BEFORE his fight with Brock”. You didn’t specify which fight. The 1st one or the 2nd one.
by Powerhouse33 on Dec 29, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
I said he had a win over Mir
You said he was a has-been when Brock beat him. I said he was on a three-fight winstreak.
Doesn’t take a genius to know which fight I was talking about.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Just like fat Fedor
Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
Sig bet with ThePride
Ellenberger beats Sanchez on Feb. 15, 1 week
Everyone keeps dogging reem on his muscle and cardio
But forget hes fighting a guy with just as much and more body fat coming off of huge surgeries and a pretty mediocre training camp
Beat cheeks
by wooly shambler on Dec 29, 2011 2:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The Reem in 40 some fights still shows bad cardio.
Brock in 7 fights has shown meh cardio. I’d rather give him benefit of the doubt that he can improve….maybe than someone who’s proven that he cant improve.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 29, 2011 2:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
meh cardio?
There is no reason to think Brock can’t go all 5 at a pretty high level. I don’t expect Reem to be able to move very well if this gets to round 2.
Brock has been at this weight for almost 15 years and his muscle mass fits well on his frame. Reem is oversized on a slimmer frame.
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Brock was gassed almost as much as Carwin by the end of his finish against Cain
Beat cheeks
by wooly shambler on Dec 29, 2011 2:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Huh?
In the Cain/Brock fight, Brock was almost as gassed at the end as Carwin was going into round 2 with Brock?
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wtf wooly?
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Yes , his break dance is half from the shock your nervous system takes from a lactic acid overdose and adrenaline dump . Watch his breathing and movements after the ref stops the fight .
I’m not tryin to troll , it’s just that Brock’s cardio is not even medium so talkin about reems cardio is a null point . This fight won’t really depend on cardio .
Beat cheeks
by wooly shambler on Dec 29, 2011 2:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
agree goldmouth
Brock just cant handle getting hit,he panics thats why his breathing was off nothing to do with cardio.
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Brock was hurt, that has nothing to do with cardio
You cannot gas from doing nothing you idiot
I trained under Jim Cozad.
Bull
He had plenty of gas left. Look at those sick moves he pulled out.
You can’t break it down like that while exhausted.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see the new found hype around Nate Diaz.
He’s a decent gatekeeper, and he looked great against the legend of Gomi. But, I don’t see how he beats “Cowboy”. My guess is that he loses the fight by UD just like the predictions above, and instead of doing anything to win the fight, he just taunts and talks crap on Donald for not fighting his fight.
Donald will be fighting his fight, in Nate's face punching his face in.
Tim Elliot had the best knockout of the year. FACT
"209 Bitch!"
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Lemme make it easier for you then
Nate Diaz beat Gray Maynard
Maynard is widely considered number 2 LW in the world
Therefore, Diaz theoretically can beat most LW in the world
Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
Sig bet with ThePride
Ellenberger beats Sanchez on Feb. 15, 1 week
I loved that fight where Diaz beat Maynard.
Except that part when two stupid judges gave it to Maynard.
In the 209, we don’t worry about what da judges say. Only what Diaz sayz!!!
I think he was referring to TUF when Nate beat Gray.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 29, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
I agree Gray won the rematch, but it was clear he wanted nothing to do with Nate
29-28 points win
Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
Sig bet with ThePride
Ellenberger beats Sanchez on Feb. 15, 1 week
Overeem can dog out that boy Brock standing up,
But you goofballs are getting way to high on that Overeem beat Badr Hari shit, Hari was injured going into the fight, the kid fought like twice before Reem stop giving that kid more credit than he deserves for fighting an injured guy
Tim Elliot had the best knockout of the year. FACT
Injured sminjured , stop with the dumb excuses
Beat cheeks
by wooly shambler on Dec 29, 2011 2:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No need for excuses Hari tapped that ass in the rematch.
Tim Elliot had the best knockout of the year. FACT
Wow, I have issue with...everything in that Brock-Overeem prediction
Wouldn’t surprise me at all to see Overeem bash his face in, but Jesus…
“Best striker in the business”.
In MMA, maybe (doubt it). In K-1, no. The best striker in the business, flat-out, is this guy:

The best pound-for-pound is Giorgio Petrosyan.
Overeem was COMPLETELY gun-shy against Werdum, and his defense was garbage. On a technical level, he’s just not that good; no head movement, no foot movement, static defense. His striking is built for K-1, not MMA. Knocking out Gary Goodridge and Kazuyuki Fujita ain’t gonna convince me.
I honestly think that “three titles” thing is worthless.
Strikeforce title: won with victory over Paul Buentello, who was suffering from a nasty case of being Paul Buentello. Defended it TWO YEARS LATER against Brett Rogers, who was coming off a loss.
DREAM title: Todd Duffee. Really? This is more worthless than the WAMMA belt.
K-1: Frankly, he had a phenomenally easy run. The only one of the three people he fought that wasn’t damaged goods was Tyrone Spong, who had about a forty pound weight disadvantage. Saki came in with a broken arm after fifteen minutes of Daniel Ghita, the nastiest leg kicker in the world. Aerts was exhausted.
Know who else in the UFC heavyweight division won the K-1 title and who, I’d argue, had a tougher run?

So, no. PRIDE losses aren’t the reason I think Overeem has a very good chance of being dominated.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:09 PM EST reply actions
Argh, picture fail
It was Mark Hunt, in case you didn’t already know that.
Also, Spong still managed to get a round against Alistair.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
If they had deducted the point point for any of the 6 warnings for using a two-handed plum, Overeem would have lost on points.
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You fail
That rule never should be there in the first place
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
They made it so Semmy wouldn't win
Also, Jones-Hamill. Just because a rule sucks doesn’t mean it’s not a rule.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Some rotten bastard
from minnesota
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, that's one of the weakest insults I've ever seen
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
nope
Glad you are amusing yourself, but the peanut gallery agrees with Patrick.
Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.
Well Nostradumbfuck
agrees with me
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
I am not a fan of Reem, I am a fan of Peter Aerts, and have been for most of his career.
While I loved his questionable victory over Semmy, I was pissed that Reem was not docked the point he should have been docked. Rules are rules. Even if those rules were put in place to make the playing field even against the Golden Glory guys.
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by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Alot of these lame ass goofballs come out and play with 4 year Usernames
until school starts then their on here in the afternoon going crazy.
Tim Elliot had the best knockout of the year. FACT
Why is your name Lance Storm?
nothing wrong with him but it’s so random.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 29, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Yup
Whole lot of asterisks on that run.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Well Patrick your opinion is as useful as poopie flavored lollipop .
Beat cheeks
by wooly shambler on Dec 29, 2011 2:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I also find it funny that very few of the guys who talk about Reem's "great" victory mention that Badr took that fight on 2 or 3 weeks notice after fighting 3 times in one night.
Vote Ron Paul 2012
See my post above kid, Reem ain't shit in K1 I proved that already
Tim Elliot had the best knockout of the year. FACT
Legal trouble from stomping on Hesdy Gerges's face
Any more questions?
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Wanna be lisabeth and I'll be big fat rapist guy ?
Beat cheeks
by wooly shambler on Dec 29, 2011 2:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You want a giant dildo kicked up your ass?
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
I am a big draw
Beat cheeks
by wooly shambler on Dec 29, 2011 4:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was going to say "movie quote"
But that didn’t save Miguel, so go right ahead.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
unfortunately, Tommy took away the ban powers I never had...
Somethiong about the twinkle in my eye when the subject was broached. Stupid envy.
Vote Ron Paul 2012
I am just going to keep on pretending I have the mod powers
and one fine day I will log on and there will be a few extra buttons for me to play with.
Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.
No I want a sweet tat
Beat cheeks
by wooly shambler on Dec 29, 2011 2:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
wow
your getting weird as hell now , maybe unplug for a bit ?
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
yah
Hari was at home while Reem bacame a champion , so why shit on reem
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 2:26 PM EST reply actions
So fucking what
Thats how it goes in the grand prix , so quit crying . Reem won, the end.
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 2:30 PM EST reply actions
i love the bit about Brock
but in all seriousness, experience/ skill/ layoff gap considered, this is a close fight. i don’t think either guy is all that fond of getting hit. if Brock is able to gain top control, he’ll likely wear out Overeem who doesn’t have the best cardio. Overeem has a good chance (IMO he does win by TKO) , but i wouldn’t call this fight a landslide.
Cerrone has a better chance to win by TKO than decision. Diaz’ punches tend to accumulate on opponents and might overwhelm Cowboy if it goes the distance. plus there’s the triathelon level cardio of Diaz. I see Diaz getting cracked by hard kicks and knees and TKO’d in round 1 or 2.
Fitch will defeat Hendricks. experience is in his favor, not only in terms of # of fights, # of UFC fights, but also the level of competition. see the GSP fight, he’s not that easy to KO. Hendricks lost to Rick Story, who lost to Brenammen (who also lost to Hendricks) and Kampmann… I like Hendricks, but his striking isn’t so good that he’ll be schooling Fitch even if it stays standing. Fitch will smother him good. Just because people aren’t excited to watch it doesn’t mean it won’t happen again.
Hettes has a tough test in front of him. Sure 9 subs in 9 outtings is impressive, but Phan has never been submitted and he’s fought some tough guys both at HW and LW. I say he gets outboxed by a much more experienced and well-rounded fighter.
I hope you mean "FW and LW"
Otherwise I have newfound respect for Phan.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Dec 29, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
Nostradumbass is right....
Alistair Overeem is an over rated heavyweight who hasn’t fought a legitimate top five heavyweight… ever? Brock Lesnar has fought two definite ones, and is also a world class wrestler, arguably a bigger advantage in mma than being a world class striker. How good is Overeem at mma striking even? We’ll have to see, but I recall the real HW Champ, JDS, blitzing Werdum very quickly (and I mean fucking him up badly), while Overeem took 3 dull rounds to win a decision. Lesnar wins by submission or Overeem tapping from strikes.
didn't Overeem injure his big toe before that fight or something?
to be fair, I don’t think anybody but JDS knew that he was going to send Werdum’s head through the stands. he was an unknown. with Overeem, Werdum came in knowing he was going to lose the striking match, which is what perpetuated the flopping and eventual begging with his legs up in the air. had he known that JDS was the striker we know him to be, it might’ve been a very different fight.
I disagree with this comment here: “He’s a big, strong bully who does very well when he gets his way. When he doesn’t, that’s when things begin to fall apart.”
I’m no Brock slappy, but his fight with Carwin didn’t necessarily “go his way” but he handled himself pretty well…
That being said, I got Brock. I don’t think Reem can stop Brock’s takedowns and Reems’ cardio has never been stellar…
especially with all that horsemeat on his arms and back
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The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.
Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.
Funny but i beg to differ
And his knick-knack-paddywhack-pass-your-brother-a-bone style of striking won’t be enough to befuddle Cerrone — and it certainly won’t finish him
OnJan 14th Chad Mendes will handily defeat Jose aldo, GUARANTEED
Chris Weidman IS a future UFC MW champion
we meet back on friday
for an epic after fight shit fest
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 3:21 PM EST reply actions
Nah it'll be quiet for a couple days after the fight
Everyone who’s picks were wrong will lay low, till the talk starts up about the next event. Then just start posting like nothing happened.
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by O damn he got caught on Dec 29, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
We agree on much Jesse
But I don’t think Hendricks knocks out Fitch. That will be a huge surprise.
As for Hettes, I’ve flipped and flopped on that fight. Hettes is 9-0 with 9 subs, but Phan has never been subbed. If Phan doesn’t get subbed, chances are he’s going to win the rounds.
Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
Sig bet with ThePride
Ellenberger beats Sanchez on Feb. 15, 1 week
do you.......
think reem will humble brock , like i do
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Overeem TKO round 2
Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
Sig bet with ThePride
Ellenberger beats Sanchez on Feb. 15, 1 week
Overeem better pray it doesn't go to the second round or he's done
I say Brock by first round bum rush. Maybe Reem’s BJJ is enough to survive until the second when he is so thoroughly exhausted we see a Carwin repeat. Plus where is Reem’s head with mom having cancer and all. That cannot be too good one wouldn’t think.
Brock’s layoff and major surgery couple with where is Reem’s head = a great match up. I say Lesnar by TKO Round 1 or 2.
Chael Sonnen is in the building Bitchezzz!
Brockle Snar TKO via GnP Rd 3
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law
I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.
The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.
Ah snap, ah snap. Come to my macaroni party and take a nap.
If it goes 3 rounds......
We the fans are the winners.
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 5:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If it goes 3 rounds......
We the fans are the winners.
by randallhumpfreeze on Dec 29, 2011 5:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Solid picks Jessie
Well played sir.
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by Rilly on Dec 29, 2011 9:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Once again solid picks except for UFC 140 when he was on crack.
All our local mania experts are picking Hetes… Im guessing Phan will be solid enough and smart enough to keep it standing… but I dunno’.. Hetes is great at what he does, but is he really another damian mia at 145lbs?
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You had me till the Hendricks pick
Then it made me question everything else you wrote. I mean, more momentum? Even coming off surgery, its not like Fitch was gone long enough to give Hendricks an upper hand. Going unbeaten in 6 fights against gono, Paulo thiago, pierce, Saunders, thiago alves, and BJ penn…. All but the penn fight were pretty dominant (save round 3 vs pierce). Who has Hendricks gone on a streak against??? Two guys, pierce and some tj guy that even I hadn’t heard of prior. Before that, he got out gritted by story. The grittiest guy in the division, Jon Fitch. C’mon, let’s be realistic here. I see no realistic argument for Hendricks here, in fact I don’t see one at all. Anything is possible, but that was the case in fitchs 15 or so prior UFC fights, all of which he won except gsp and BJ. And honestly, I saw more of an argument for Fitch in the BJ fight, as either rd1 or2 was close enough to go either way (can’t recall which, I think it was 1). Hendricks hasn’t beaten a Fitch caliber fighter yet, and Fitch has beaten plenty of Hendricks…. Just sayin.
Wow a nice plate of crow for me
Cant say I saw that coming at all, and as I still think Fitch wins the vast majority of the time, I must say you called that perfectly. Right on, amazing.
by Mr.Italiano on Dec 30, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Humble in defeat. Kudos to you sir.
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
by Jesse Holland on Dec 31, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
Holy shit Jessie..
I couldn’t believe how little respect you were giving Brocks chances in this fight. Totally right though, that was as one sided a fight as I think I’ve ever seen. Not perhaps in terms of the outcome all though that was pretty decisive aswell but the two just looked so far apart in skill level it was frightening…sickest fight calls seen in a long time
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