UFC Quick Quote: Tim Hague was a dummy and a bitch at the hands of Brock Lesnar
by Jesse Holland on Dec 26, 2011 9:31 AM EST
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"Was pretty surreal. Best training, and best group of guys I've ever trained with. WAR LESNAR. Because I need to get better at everything, and being able to work with Pat Barry and Cole Konrad one-on-one was unreal. Working MMA with Brock and five other legit UFC level HW's every day is something I don't get up in Edmonton. I'm not gonna give away any of his strategy, but he is scary strong, and scary conditioned, and if he gets the jump on a takedown, you're going down, or you're blowing out a knee or something haha. I just went there for a week to be a [heavyweight] dummy for Brock and the guys, I was slightly outta shape, but know what I have to do to be better next time. I wasn't paid or nothing, didn't ask to be and felt like I should have paid them to be there. I don't know who's better (Lesnar or Konrad), they both made me their bitch on the mats, and Cole's boxing is great as well. I got invited back for a full camp, and I'm chomping at the bit to make that happen."
Former UFC heavyweight Tim Hague (via The Underground) got a taste of what the division's top wrestlers are all about after he was invited to be a full-time rag doll for Brock Lesnar and Co. at Team DeathClutch in advance of the UFC 141 pay-per-view on Friday night (Dec. 30, 2011) in Las Vegas, Nevada. Lesnar will try to get back into the title chase by taking on Alistair Overeem, the deadliest heavyweight striker in all of mixed martial arts. To help better prepare him for the "The Reem's" varied stand-up attack, he's spent the past week or so unplugging "The Thrashing Machine." Definitely a great experience for Hague, but does it do anything for Lesnar? Anyone think beating up a fighter who was 1-4 under the ZUFFA banner is waste of time for the biggest fight of his career? Or was this just a small part of the total package?
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Small part of the total package
If he beats Overeem I doubt he’ll be giving all the credit to the take downs he landed on Hague.
Hague probably has better TDD than Overeem any way
this is a cake walk for the Pain Train
UFC 141 picks: Nunes - UD, Riddle - UD, Volkman - Sub Rd 3, Kim - UD, Njokuani - KO/TKO Rd 1, Pearson - UD, Hettes - Sub Rd 2, Gustafsson - KO/TKO Rd 2, Fitch - UD, Cerrone - UD(sig bet w/Phasebook), Pain Train makes glue in Rd 2 KO/TKO
sig bet record 1 - 3
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I would bet Lesnar has the better Jiu Jitsu at least at defending it. Better wrestling offensively and defensively. Striking goes to Overeem but Lesnar has ever improving striking and he hits like a truck, not the typical countdown hype, literally.
Brock will win, i believe in it.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 26, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
Plus at heavyweight Reem hasn’t faced a good striker at HW and hasn’t faced a wrestler the likes of Lesnar, ever.
The best HW Reem has beaten is Werdum is as good as Werdum is, he’s not great.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 26, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
reems faced good strikers at HW
Badr Hari , Tyrone Sponge etc doesnt change the fact he has faced good strikers in his whole career i.e shogun, belfort, as for wrestling thats brocks best chance
The world of K-1 is very different then MMA. In K-1 Hong Mon Choi and Bob Sapp have found much success in comparison to their MA careers.
Brock will take him down, he will easily.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 26, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Sig bet?
I will take overroid
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Dec 26, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Get at me closer to the event.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 26, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
That was for LSC only
Not sure how much closer to the date is required considering this is less than a week away.
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Dec 26, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
You scared? Cause I'd def bet you that Lesnar destroys Overeem
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 26, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Call me dad
Soon as my flow starts, I compose art like the ghost of Mozart
Even though they all say that they're real, I know that most aren't
Boy you think you're clever don't you, girl you think you're so smart
Come with me to another side of the world... so cold and so dark
facing non-wrestlers in MMA and facing great stand-up fighters in K-1 is not the same as fighting great wrestlers in MMA.
the first thing you learn in MMA sparring is how tough it can be against a good high school or college wrestlers.
to say nothing of collegiate champions, olympians in wrestling etc.
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on Dec 26, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
No way does brock have better jiu jitsu than reem bro
by dragonassault on Dec 26, 2011 10:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
No kidding
Even an amoeba knows that
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 26, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Ya think? Youre a clever lil fella today
by dragonassault on Dec 26, 2011 10:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Brock Lesnar has very good hips and besides a mistake against Frank Mir, he has schooled everyone on the ground. You can say it’s his size but his technique is good.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 26, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
How many subs does the Reem have?
And how many does Brock have? Lol
Wrestling is not an art of fighting, it's the opposite. It is a way to NOT fight
by Nick Diaz's Mean Mug 209 on Dec 26, 2011 10:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
You do realize that doesn’t matter.
Brock tapped Shane Carwin (Undeafted prior)
Overeem tapped James Thompson, Tony Sylvester, Gary Goodridge, Mark Hunt, Michael Knapp, Nokolajus Cilkinas, Igor Vovachyn, Vitor Belfort, Rodney Faverus. Aaron Brink, Moise Rimbon, Roman Zetsov,Vladimer Tchanturia,Peter Verschuren,Ricardo Fyeet
Now which one sticks out the most? Which is the more impressive based on the actual length in the sport?. Mind you majority of these were guillotine chokes and that isn’t the most overly impressive submission and more of a ‘strong man’ submission. I’d take Brock’s skill on the ground and will when he takes Reem down and holds him down.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 26, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
An arm triangle like lesnars is a strong man sub , but I get what you're saying here
They are both probably equally capable of grabbing a sub I just think overeem will be looking for it more and being a little sneaker about it in the clinch or on the mat . I think Brock will look for a sub if he has another first round like he did against Carwin
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by wooly shambler on Dec 26, 2011 11:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
arm triangle is very hard as you have to get the angle in right. I’ve seen schoolyard fights end by guillotine, never by arm triangle lol.
The arm triangle that Brock apllied was very technical as you he applied for angle that Carwin couldn’t ‘telephone’ out of.
This will come down to Reem stopping the shoot and imposing his striking. He doesn’t seem aggressive enough to push that skill against Brock.
I love watching Overeem’s fights but this is a match where i’m unfairly bias and think Reem shoulda took a lil step before but he is very good.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 26, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i’ve seen plenty of guillotines that were a ‘strong man’s sub’.
name a fighter with great MMA record that Overeem’s beaten?
oh. yeah.
he hasn’t.
the guys with names he’s beaten that anyone recognizes he’s lost to as well, going 1-1 with kharitonov, going he’s lost to werdum by sub as well (and got outstruck by werdum in that fight standing up btw)
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on Dec 26, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Hague is a very good guy and a good talent. People don’t realize that Hague is the best Canadian heavyweight so finding people to train with is very hard without having to travel.
He also hasn’t bee involved in MA his whole life so for his amount in the gym without world class training partners he’s done well.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 26, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Don't feed the troll LSC
Hague claimbed into the fucking Octagon which is probably 10x more than this World of Warcraft fag will ever do. It’s one this to dislike a fighter but it’s another to be a flat fucking keyboard warrior. He’d probably bend over or jump to his knees if he ever saw Hague in real life.
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by dragonassault on Dec 26, 2011 10:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
A 'bitch and a dummy.' straight from the horses mouth
by dragonassault on Dec 26, 2011 10:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Would you believe him if admitted he ‘tooled’ Lesnar and Konrad? lol
Hague was very much appreciated at the camp as getting guys out to the deathclutch camp is hard. Brock Lesnar built his gym and doesn’t travel outside much. He does bring in the very best he can
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 26, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Im sorry to get off topic but
does anyone know if I have to use my android phone to download the sb nation app or can I do it from my computer at home and have it sent to my phone. I ask this because it doesnt work either way.
DL straight to the phone from the market..
Then log on with your user name or email…
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by Fat Daddy Doobs on Dec 26, 2011 9:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
no prob..
And if it still acts up on you, or you just don’t like it…DL the MMA News Arena…no disrespect to SBnation, but I found that one to work better for me, & with Mania set as a fave it gets me here faster & more directly. The sbnation app gives me too many articles from other sites…too much fluff
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." George Bernard Shaw
by Fat Daddy Doobs on Dec 26, 2011 10:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
v 2.3.4 running on a HTC G2..
Love this damn phone! Its a rare thing nowadays when you fucking buy something and have NO regrets! This is one of those times.
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." George Bernard Shaw
by Fat Daddy Doobs on Dec 26, 2011 9:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I lost my phone the other night
Waiting for the replacement to come this week.
I was running Gingerbread too and had no problem downloading the app.
im guessing you didnt have the lookout security app?
Lost my phone in a cab once & couldn’t recall anything about the cab, service name, car number, nothing! Logged onto lookout & located it AT the cab depot. Asked for my phone & was told a bunch a bullshit. Started the lookout app that makes the phone scream & heard it coming from the office! then started flipping out on them and demanded my phone before i had to cut somebody! For a $500 phone plus all my banking & paypal info? Damn right imma get goonish! Main idea…get LOOKOUT!
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." George Bernard Shaw
by Fat Daddy Doobs on Dec 26, 2011 10:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
the phone has to be on though
if they just turn it off, or wipe the memory after they get the important info, then your lookout software doesn’t do anything.
UFC 141 picks: Nunes - UD, Riddle - UD, Volkman - Sub Rd 3, Kim - UD, Njokuani - KO/TKO Rd 1, Pearson - UD, Hettes - Sub Rd 2, Gustafsson - KO/TKO Rd 2, Fitch - UD, Cerrone - UD(sig bet w/Phasebook), Pain Train makes glue in Rd 2 KO/TKO
sig bet record 1 - 3
Mania Money Pool 20th place, 500 points
Future 2012/13 B league FFB champ.
by ShivanTiger on Dec 26, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
yeh.
They still had it on and it was locked. They were trying to figure out my unlock screen pattern judging by the greasy trails on my screen..but I got my shit back!
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." George Bernard Shaw
by Fat Daddy Doobs on Dec 26, 2011 10:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
anyone know who reem’s training with?
anyone name a decent HW he’s beaten and not also lost to?
he’s lost to everyone with a name you recognize on his fight record.
dude is a tomato can opener extraordinaire. he batters guys that are 2nd rate, to be sure.
he’s lost to liddell, arona, shogun, kharitonov, werdum…..he’s beaten Brett Rogers….Kharitonov, Werdum (who sat down every 20 seconds)….c’mon. it’s sad how quickly people buy the hype train b/c a guy beats down some 2nd and 3rd raters in quick time.
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on Dec 26, 2011 3:28 PM EST reply actions
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