UFC Quick Quote: Chael Sonnen is done with Anderson Silva, wants Dos Santos, Jones or St. Pierre
by Geno Mrosko on Dec 23, 2011 3:00 PM EST
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"I'm done with the guy. He and I have no business. This guy is cold product, man, he's like jerry curls and Pepsi clear. He's yesterday's news. I destroyed this guy back when he was tough. That was years ago. He's so far over the hill and past his prime, it's not worth talking about. I'm going to become the number one contender on Jan. 28. But despite what you may think, I'm not going to use that voucher to fight Anderson Silva. I'll be looking at (Junior) dos Santos, (Jon) Jones, and possibly (Georges) St. Pierre. But that, I will take that voucher to Dana White and I will pick one of those three guys. My time with Anderson is done."
-- Chael Sonnen took his traveling act back to the Off The Record Show with Michael Landsberg and in a preview released today, spit some hot fire in regards to reigning Middleweight Champion and longtime arch nemesis Anderson Silva. Old Uncle Chael says he's done with "The Spider" because the Brazilian is old and washed up. He's already had his way with the champ, after all, and in Sonnen's mind, Silva isn't actually a champion. Whether or not he actually believes that is up to you to decide. But if Sonnen can defeat Mark Munoz at UFC on Fox 2 on Jan. 28 in Chicago, Illinois, the win will earn him a title shot. Instead of going after Silva, though, Chael says he's got his eyes on Junior dos Santos, Jon Jones or Georges St. Pierre, the heavyweight, light heavyweight and welterweight champions, respectively. Two of those are actually rather intriguing bouts but what are the chances he's just popping off at the mouth and none of this is real talk? Anyone want to see Sonnen move up to challenge Jones for the 205-pound strap? Or maybe move down (if he could make it) to 170-pounds to battle St. Pierre?
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LOL @ Pepsi clear.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Dec 23, 2011 3:03 PM EST reply actions
My thoughts exactly!
I forgot that stuff ever existed!
Man, I need a new sig!
by Danas A Crossdresser on Dec 23, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Crystal Pepsi.
Would have been a lot more clever if he actually got it right.
by kmdubya on Dec 23, 2011 3:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
really? REALLY? R.E.A.L.L.Y.
smh!
Song of the week:: Radiohead - Myxomatosis (Judge, Jury & Executioner) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Assn-iTEYBY (the song)
Chael was done...
the moment he tapped to an injured Silva after failing his drug test talking all that shit. His legacy will be known as the guy who “almost” beat Anderson and that he sure was a funny guy.
I’d love to see him fight Jones though. Wrestling is Silva’s weakness but it would be fun to watch Jones toss Chael around and watching the puzzled look on Chael’s face right before it gets smashed.
Credible P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top fighters making them look like they don't belong and has done it for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody including top guys)
#3: GSP (long time champ but can't stop people that others can who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating compared to #1 and #2... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Dec 23, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
is that a reply chail?
hehe
btw you don’t in any way shape or form come off as biased
Credible P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top fighters making them look like they don’t belong and has done it for years)
it would be fun to watch Jones toss Chael around and watching the puzzled look on Chael’s face right before it gets smashed.
Song of the week:: Radiohead - Myxomatosis (Judge, Jury & Executioner) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Assn-iTEYBY (the song)
One bad fight doesn't undo all the amazing ones.
I think haters forget what Silva has done over the years. Call it bias but it’s also true. You think JBJ wouldn’t smash Chael?
Credible P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top fighters making them look like they don't belong and has done it for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody including top guys)
#3: GSP (long time champ but can't stop people that others can who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating compared to #1 and #2... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Dec 23, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
ONE bad fight?
Are we talking about his 08 tko because Cotes knee blew out? or his 09 decision to Thales Leites. Or his 2010 mockery decision of Demian Maia? Then his hail mary against Chael? Then his tko against “the only guy to defeat him?”
After beating a thin heard of top contenders like Franklin, Henderson, Sonnen, and Vitor at 205. The rest werent exactly title contenders, just by default. Middleweight has been slim for a loooooong time. I dont even like Jones and hes starting to build a record faster against higher caliber competition already.
really, u act like the people he has beat isnt good enough, his lack luster fights where aginst people he could destroy maia, leites he would kill and cote got lucky his knee blew out anderson played it safe with them guys because he wasnt gonna be like gsp and get kod by a matt sera that shouldnt have had the chance to fight him in the first place, When he beat franklin he was the number 1 middleweight, henderson has a chance to beat anybody at anytime including jon jones and belfort is a very good middleweight and always has a chance against anybody he fights, sonnen is good but he is the one who quite not anderson, he has also beat forrest griffin who was ranked pretty high at one time in the lhw division right now anderson would give jon jones the best fight of his life and would have a high chance of beating him, jones is building a record pretty fast aginst high caliber names but the only one that he really would deserve credit for would be machida, and mabey shogun depending on which shogun shows up cant forget about his fight with coleman quinton jackson would get embarrassed by anderson silva if they was to fight and anderson could probably beat anybody jones has fought so far
I'm not acting like the people he beat aren't good enough
Hendo, Griffin, Vitor, Sonnen, Franklin, I give him credit for all of those top Contenders. It would be the others who got they’re chance by default. The ones u refer to as his lack luster fights that he played it safe. “P4p king” shouldn’t play it safe. If playing it safe is your argument for his performance, then it is a sorry one. Why would someone say, “oh this guy doesn’t have a name or skill set to beat me, so instead of smashing them I’m going to play it safe!” Upsets happen, otherwise no one would ever bet on the underdog. Can’t play it safe just because they don’t have the reputation that you want them too.
by KCmmaBadBoy on Dec 23, 2011 6:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Okay KCmmaBadBoy, one tough fight I should have said.
Let’s not pretend Cote, Leites or Maia were anything more than Silva just toying around not taking the fight seriously. He still dominated and landed what he wanted when he wanted against them. I hated those fights too but he’s only had one rough fight. He’s still destroys tougher guys than the ones he toyed with no doubt. If you think Silva plays it safe then don’t ever let me catch you praising GSP! lol
Credible P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top fighters making them look like they don't belong and has done it for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody including top guys)
#3: GSP (long time champ but can't stop people that others can who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating compared to #1 and #2... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Dec 23, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
i agree, sometimes the haters do forget how great Silva really is. He’s one of those phase 2 guys (of mma, phase 2, tito ect, phase 1 kenrock ect) who has been able to stand the test of time. I’m not really sure if Bones would smash chael tbh. Chael has looked great his last two outings, and downright scary against brian stann. I’m excited to see him against munoz, i like the both of them so it’ll be a tough fight to watch.
His legacy will be known as the guy who "almost" beat Anderson and that he sure was a funny guy.
I just don’t think it’s fair to say that, he’s still fighting, and about to get a big push in his fanbase after fighting on Fox.
i can understand why some people don’t enjoy his shtick, but chael is a smart man, and he wants the best fight, there is a reason jim miller, and other “boring” fighters don’t get a title shot. i hate that it is that way, but that’s the way it is. now, if chael beats munoz, that would be such a huge win for his record, a win that nobody can ever take away, and it may just give him another shot to take out anderson. the story/legacy hasn’t been 100% told yet, let’s watch it unfold, and enjoy it from both sides. my side being one that enjoys his sctick, and looks at him as a stephen colbert of mma, and yours being of a man that just doesn’t like the shit he’s talked and think it takes away from the sport.
Song of the week:: Radiohead - Myxomatosis (Judge, Jury & Executioner) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Assn-iTEYBY (the song)
Should have said at this point but he better do something good to change that.
Credible P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top fighters making them look like they don't belong and has done it for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody including top guys)
#3: GSP (long time champ but can't stop people that others can who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating compared to #1 and #2... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Dec 23, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
He's not so smart!
If so than he wouldnn’t get caught so often! He got caught cheating and he got caught with a felony! The dude is a piece of shit cheater! Amazing how he has any fans! How can people support a cheater is beyond me. You would have to be a cheater urself. He’s disrespectful to the sport and his opponents plus he’s a crook! Sometimes he says some funny shit (not IMO) but that alone shouldn’t get you fans!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
get off your high horse bitch
Song of the week:: Radiohead - Myxomatosis (Judge, Jury & Executioner) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Assn-iTEYBY (the song)
Fael Sonnen.
He was almost clever….guy just never seems to get anything right. Almost funny, almost beat the champ, almost had normal sized balls…….
Roger Huerta is one of a growing number of Zuffa-contracted fighter who feel that there is a disconnection between the company’s success and the way fighters are compensated. Huerta’s disillusionment with the UFC began when he did press tours for his employer in Miami, Houston, Los Angeles, and London and received a $50 per diem for his troubles.
ROFL!!!! "Fastest growing sport in the world" "The BIG Show"
Ahahahahaha
by dec3ptiKon_ on Dec 23, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
GENO, SOMEONE, ANYONE
Have a link to the entire Sonnen returns to OTR video?
Word said he got crushed, again.
You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
by *Californication* on Dec 23, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
nvm
found it in .5 seconds.
Hilarious stuff.
You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
by *Californication* on Dec 23, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
Has anoyone seen Deuce??
I have a message just for him
Wrestling is not an art of fighting, it's the opposite. It is a way to NOT fight
by Nick Diaz's Mean Mug 209 on Dec 23, 2011 3:04 PM EST reply actions
he already knows how u feel and how u lile it...stop stalking
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Dec 23, 2011 3:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
LOL
ok tough guy
Wrestling is not an art of fighting, it's the opposite. It is a way to NOT fight
by Nick Diaz's Mean Mug 209 on Dec 23, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
And the funny thing about all of this is that Chael has a legitimate chance against any of them.
JDS TDD has never been tested , let alone what Chael brings to the table.
Jones he could have serious issues, but Chael in a wrestling match is not to be played with. Chael is the far better pedigreed , decorated wrestler and his MMA wrestling is probably better than he was as a wrestler.
And against St Pierre , Chael would be the much stronger , tougher guy .
Chael’s wrestling is really just that good.
I give Chael a better chance against JDS than against Jones and I think GSP would probably be favoring Chael.
by p123 on Dec 23, 2011 3:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
i agree, he didnt just take silva down either he managed to punch him in the face and drop him. if you can hit the spider you can hit bones who clearly doesn’t take to getting punched well. and jones wrestling is good he did shut baders takedowns down but chael is chael
dude come on wit that JDS nonsense!! NO COMMISION WOULD EVER EVEN SANCTION THAT FIGHT!
and for a good reason, JDS will knock his head out of the arena
JDS has a good chance to get wrestle fucked by Chael man.
by p123 on Dec 23, 2011 3:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
you are ridiculous
JDS and Bones would MURDER Sonnen… the GSP fight I’d like to see though
Odd thing happened today... had to re-sgn up for MMAMania. No clue why!
by PHISH_NATION on Dec 23, 2011 3:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ibeffudled
It was pretty hard for Anderson to use good head movement with sore ribs. Every other time you see better strikers than Chael not catch Silva with shit. It won’t happen again. Alot of people love to hate on Silva in that fight cause he destroys every other time but one good thing about it was showing how tough Silva is taking all of that while he wasn’t 100%. I laugh at Chael getting the finish against Silva in a rematch. Okami’s wrestling isn’t as good as Chael’s but still good. He out wrestling Munoz but couldn’t take Silva down when he tried.
I agree that JBJ and JDS would murder Chael but not GSP. I think Chael would do to him what GSP does to others. There’s a reason why we have weight classes and Chael would be too big for GSP.
Credible P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top fighters making them look like they don't belong and has done it for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody including top guys)
#3: GSP (long time champ but can't stop people that others can who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating compared to #1 and #2... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Dec 23, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
The "sore ribs" excuse is tired
He had to have a pre fight doctor check him out. Nothing was said about ribs then. If Silva decided not to tell the doctor, then he cant use that as an excuse for losing. Could it be a possibility that Silvas ribs were injured while fighting Sonnen? And maybe because of his dislike of Sonnen he decided to say that he injured them before the fight? That way he would have an excuse for getting manhandled, so it wouldnt hurt his unbeatable lable? He had the shoulder injury during the Okami fight and was on pain killers during the fight. I didnt see a big difference there. But then again that fight was just another number to add to Silvas wins, pretty much a “gimme fight.” Bottom line is Silva and Greco Wrestlers with decent striking dont mix….
might be that nut huggers always real quick to throw that out as an excuse for his peformance...
If its that bad then dont fight. Not like they havent ever rescheduled a fight before.
Yes he did still win, thank you for the update… anything else you would like to include?
Right, cause sore ribs don't effect a fighter right hater?
You are a Silva hater, it’s cool but don’t deny it. Have you ever had an injury or competed in anything? If so then you’d understand that it’s hard to get off the couch with a rib injury let alone get locked into a cage against a stylist bad match up who cheated on his drug test. No excuses, facts! All of that and Chael still couldn’t put him away. That’s a tough son of a bitch. Way tougher than Sir tap alot Sonnen.
As for saying “don’t fight”. Do you really think he was gonna cancel after what he did at UFC 112? Did you not see how pissed Dana was? Are you serious?! lol Gotta look at things from all sides hater.
Credible P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top fighters making them look like they don't belong and has done it for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody including top guys)
#3: GSP (long time champ but can't stop people that others can who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating compared to #1 and #2... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Dec 23, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Not a hater, its more that I’m getting tired of the rib injury argument. He had a “pre fight” injury that was passed by a doctor before the fight. So he probably he chose not to tell the doctor, n if he did that then he shouldn’t be able to use that as an excuse to why he got manhandled. When the truth probably is that Sonnen fractured his rib. But Silva wants to keep up the untouchable fighter status. When in all reality he doesn’t have good tdd, so his biggest competition is wrestlers.
by KCmmaBadBoy on Dec 24, 2011 12:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
well
if you go watch the fight again youll notice something. Silva doesnt sit down once that fight he stands up between rounds holding his rib half the time. So the champ for some reason stands the whole fight why do you think that is?
like when he submitted Henderson, the greco roman olympian
yeah, the don’t mix
btw, remember that time Silva beat Chael? I do.
yes he subbed hendo, who shouldnt fight at 185 anymore because of cardio
and yes i do remember that time that Silva beat Sonnen.
Do you remember the time that the indistructable Silva got pounded on for 22 minutes?
or the time that he lost the first round to Henderson?
Aside from Sonnen, Belfort, Franklin and Henderson the other title defenses have all been spoon fed. Wrestling is still his weakness, but anything can happen.
Do you remember when Silva talked all big about eventually moving to LHW and or HW? then he backtracked and said whoever wants to fight him can come to his weight class? I DO! he must have realized that those weight classes have a few more wrestlers
you cant just say "other than Belfort, Sonnen, Franklin, and Hendo
Those are 4 of the best in the world, give the guy some credit… he also beat former LHW champ Forrest Griffin in comedic fashion
Odd thing happened today... had to re-sgn up for MMAMania. No clue why!
by PHISH_NATION on Dec 23, 2011 8:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yes i can say aside from belfort, sonnen, franklin and hendo
Because those are the only guys that deserved to fight for the title. Thats why I said other than those guys, his title defenses were spoon fed. I know they are 4 of the best in the world. Why do you think that Silva doesnt want rematches with 3 of the 4? Because it could just as easily be they’re night instead of his. I give him credit for beating them. But options are limited in MW title contenders and its time for some rematches whether he likes it or not. I also know he beat Forrest and embarrassed him, but once again a tailor made fight for Silva. A guy who wants to slug it out. If he would have done that to Rashad, Hendo (at 205), or anyone else with a wrestling background with good striking then I would be much more impressed. But it was against Griffin who isnt known as a finisher.
(and thanks for bringing up the Griffin fight, that fight still pisses me off! haha)
All champs have had so called "spoon fed" guys to fight because
they’ve been on top so long that there’s no1 left. Silva took fights at 205 because of this even! Like Hardy, Kos and Serra the bloated LW were spoon fed? Like Fedor has had plenty of spoon fed fights? Like I said, if you’re gonna hate then hate on others for the reasons you hate on Silva.
Credible P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top fighters making them look like they don't belong and has done it for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody including top guys)
#3: GSP (long time champ but can't stop people that others can who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating compared to #1 and #2... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Dec 23, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t worry, I do hate on fedor. So were good to go!
by KCmmaBadBoy on Dec 24, 2011 12:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
And GSP?
At least Silva can finish his “spoon fed” guys! Not go 25 min of wrestling! The 185 pound division looks so weak bc Anderson makes them look that way! He even made the 2 205 guys he fought look weak! Forrest has beaten some good guys and the fights he losses are usually close. Silva DESTROYED this former champ and made him look like a beginner! Something that Shogun and Page couldn’t do! Hell, they even lost to Forrest!!!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
JDS has never fought a guy who came to wrestle, let alone an elite wrestler who came to wrestle. Don’t let weight classes fool you, this is still real life, and men over 200 pounds can hurt other men over 200 lbs.
Did you fall on your head
If I were you, I would admit that as you wouldn’t want to say that you didn’t with that nonsense you are spewing
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Dec 23, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not spewing nonsense at all. Your just being ridiculous now. Look I’m not saying Chael would definitely win, or would be the favorite, but look, JDS has a lot of unproven things about him. You can’t just write off an elite wrestler like Chael because of what 15 – 20 pounds?
nonsense
Odd thing happened today... had to re-sgn up for MMAMania. No clue why!
by PHISH_NATION on Dec 23, 2011 5:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don’t get it Phish. What’s nonsense?
That Chael has a chance to out wrestle JDS , the non wrestler, who has never been in a wrestling war ever in his career? Chael puffs up to 225 , and he’s got a chance.
not that id ever take sonnen of jds but your right
its not like jds tips the scale at 265
Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain
"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali
1 week sig bet with ThePride - Kampmann over Alves
2 Week sig/pic bet with TheDragon - Diaz over Condit
1 Week sig/pic bet with doonerthesooner - Bendo over Edgar
That’s my whole point. And Sonnen is not really anywhere close to 185 except on weigh ins.
People see the division, and automatically go, 265 vs 185! Cmonnn!
But, realistically, we are talking 15 pounds, 20 pounds max here.
I have no doubt JDS beats Sonnen 100 times out of 100
JDS has great hips and would always be one punch away from sending Chael to the ER… watch when 280 lb Carwin took down JDS and he popped back up like a cat… Sonnen has ZERO chance
Odd thing happened today... had to re-sgn up for MMAMania. No clue why!
by PHISH_NATION on Dec 23, 2011 9:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree p123!
I would actually put some money on chael if he fought JDS! IMO chael wins that fight. And I hate chael so it’s not like I’m picking him to win bc I’m a fan. You people really don’t think that chael could get JDS on his back??? Cain would have won that fight if he used his wrestling! What a dumb ass!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
That "dumb ass" comment wasn't for any of you guys, it was for Cain. lol
I still can’t believe that he didn’t wrestle with him, it blows my mind!!!!!!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
The fight was a minute long!!
It’s not like They fought 2 rounds and Cain stood with him the entire time. It was a minute. Quit talking about what Cain didn’t do in a minute, and more what JDS did do.
It’s easy to say go wrestle junior!! He has faced a wrestler! Until you actually try and do it and find out just how strong he is ad how hard it is to take him down. Not to mention thinkin about eating a nasty uppercut trying to get the takedown and end up looking like Werdum. Chael just rushes in like a mad man for the takedown. JDS would knock his head off.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Dec 25, 2011 12:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Phish is just being a dick. That's all.
It’s nothing personal. ;)
Gotcha. Of course we will never see the fight, but I think we lose touch with reality. These are still human beings here, heavier men don’t always just automatically beat lighter men.
Not you fool! These other jabronis that who come in here and give the whole What? HW vs MW? ROFL type of logic.
+1 on the jabroni reference
Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain
"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali
1 week sig bet with ThePride - Kampmann over Alves
2 Week sig/pic bet with TheDragon - Diaz over Condit
1 Week sig/pic bet with doonerthesooner - Bendo over Edgar
sonnen > gsp
gsp can’t lay n pray sonnen, that’s a fact.
Top 5 most boring fighters to watch p4p:
1. Jake "Mr. Snuggie" Shields
2. G "what's the Rush?" SP
3. Jon Fitch
4. Gray "lets cuddle?" Maynard
5. any wrestler w/ the same fight strategy as #1-4
GSP would beat him up on the feet
The only reason Sonnen ever outstrikes anyone is because his opponent is worried about the td… GSP would have no such worries since he has the best tdd of all time arguably
Odd thing happened today... had to re-sgn up for MMAMania. No clue why!
by PHISH_NATION on Dec 23, 2011 9:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
oh by beating up on the feet you mean run away and throw jabs?
chael would chase him down and wouldn’t give gsp any room to breathe let alone pick him apart. Then once he would get in close, he’ll grab a hold of gsp, trip him, then take him down.
Top 5 most boring fighters to watch p4p:
1. Jake "Mr. Snuggie" Shields
2. G "what's the Rush?" SP
3. Jon Fitch
4. Gray "lets cuddle?" Maynard
5. any wrestler w/ the same fight strategy as #1-4
Agree!
sonnen would not doubt put GSP on his back!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
Jds is WAY too big for chael gtfo with the wrestle fuck crap
love to watch wand, florian, lauzon, gsp, cain, machida, dos anjos
bones jones will be the champ for a VERY long time
damn that was fun watching tito choke out bader
fedor man its time to hang up the gloves
by Burlzilla129 on Dec 23, 2011 4:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yea! How could they not sanction it if sonnen came in at 220???
Forget who said they wouldn’t sanction it up above, but that’s ludacris! LUDA
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
On what example do you say Bones doesn't take being hit in the face well?
"How much can you know about yourself, if you've never been in a fight?"
by RRRenan on Dec 23, 2011 3:26 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
maybe if he cuts off a leg
maybe he should have a long sit down talk with kenny florian
Song of the week:: Radiohead - Myxomatosis (Judge, Jury & Executioner) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Assn-iTEYBY (the song)
Doubt it.
And we all know that GSP would never move up!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
Jds's td defence has never tested?
No he just stuffed cain and carwins takedowns. You need to be placed in an institution and get the help you seriously need.
True!
And he didn’t stuff Cain’s TD attempt! Cain grabbed a leg and half heartedly tried to get him down. Wasn’t like he shot in or anything.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
I'd rather fight people who hadn't choked my ass out too..
Cause if he couldn’t get it done against an injured and bored Silva…
A motivated healthy one will destroy him.
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really? he was injured and bored too? smh
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by letter19 on Dec 23, 2011 3:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yea...Silva looked great in his Irvin-Cote-Leites-Griffin-Maia streak
Sonnen was just the next weak challenger. He took advantage of that and still failed.
Notice how belfort and okami did agasint a motivated Silva. People love pointing out odd or bad SIlva looked against the other lesser challengers…but no one wants to point out how Sonnen was another one of those.
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by Reality_Jockey on Dec 23, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
Wait, so Silva actually has phenomenal TDD? Since when? All Sonnen did was ragdoll Silva, injury or not, steroids or not, it ain’t changing that.
TAP > TDD
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by Reality_Jockey on Dec 23, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Ok that’s right, but if you don’t have the ability to tap your opponent, your fucked. I don’t think JDS or GSP would qualify as guys who are going to tap Chael when they are on their back…
Why would sonnen tap To gsp
Gsp won’t snap your limb he’s shown that. No reason to tap hell let you out and say his technique wasn’t right. Ask Dan hardy
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Yeah exactly. He's not a fighter he's an mixer martial artist
That’s what he says at least. Maia is the same way. They want to go in hurt there opponent as little as possible and win. Maia has actually said this. Gsp acts it all day so I’m assuming he has the same train of thoughts
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GSP wouldn't lose to Sonnen
and that fight ain’t going to happen either
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 23, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
It pron won't happen
But he would absolutely lose to him at 185
And I’d sonnen didn’t die in the weight cut to 170 gsp would be doomed there as well
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1 week sig bet with ThePride - Kampmann over Alves
2 Week sig/pic bet with TheDragon - Diaz over Condit
1 Week sig/pic bet with doonerthesooner - Bendo over Edgar
If sonnen
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1 week sig bet with ThePride - Kampmann over Alves
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1 Week sig/pic bet with doonerthesooner - Bendo over Edgar
Good luck
Didn’t know that the fight would take place at 185. I’m sure Sonnen would also finish Cruz and Edgar while we are at this useless discussion.
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 23, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
why wouldnt that be a potential?
gsp has never talked about moving up before??
smh
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sonnen won't be in the picture if that happens
he’ll either be banned for doing something illegal or he’ll be in jail for doing something illegal.
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 23, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
talk about useless discussion
speculate some more
will joey beltran dethrone JDS by the end of 2012 too?
what else can you enlighten us about ?
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1 week sig bet with ThePride - Kampmann over Alves
2 Week sig/pic bet with TheDragon - Diaz over Condit
1 Week sig/pic bet with doonerthesooner - Bendo over Edgar
the fact that sonnen will face JDS, Jones or GSP won't happen
that isn’t speculation – it is fact
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 23, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
no its speculation
fact is something you can prove
prove sonnen wont fight jds jones or gsp
what does your crystal ball say?
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1 week sig bet with ThePride - Kampmann over Alves
2 Week sig/pic bet with TheDragon - Diaz over Condit
1 Week sig/pic bet with doonerthesooner - Bendo over Edgar
pretty spot on for my opinion of you
Everything you stated is speculation. It will be fact within the next 3 years.
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 23, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
What if Sonnen really does say fuck it and roids up to 240, what ya gonna do then? That’s highly likely man.
because he is scared shitless of getting hit
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 23, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Who Sonnen? Sonnen handles punches how your supposed to I think. You get punched in your face, and you know your in a fight. Sonnen goes through straight war for takedowns. That’s a rough style for anyone except BJJ guys since his sub D is so bad.
He’s kind of like a more powerful 185 lb version of Guida with beter wrestling and worse sub defense.
lol – love that last sentence
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 23, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
go bumcrack
your argument really slid downhill
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I'm ashamed that you like the same NFL team I dod
that is all we have in common. My point stands, Sonnen opens up his trap and utters complete nonsense and then his fans runs with it like it is the gospel. If anyone needs to leave, you should as you are looking quite rediculous tonight.
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 23, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
and I will leave too as apparently I don't know how to type
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 23, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
I'm curious...what exactly would possess someone....
….to name themselves “hairybumcrack”?
this is my wife's handle
she doesn’t use it anymore so I do
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 23, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Your wife's handle?
She actually came up with that name?
What for? Was she angry with you or something?
her ass is hairy
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 23, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
oh i cant type worth the life of me
my stuff is barely literate
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1 week sig bet with ThePride - Kampmann over Alves
2 Week sig/pic bet with TheDragon - Diaz over Condit
1 Week sig/pic bet with doonerthesooner - Bendo over Edgar
i disagree but thats fine
the funny thing is i absolutly hate sonnen, i just respect him as a fighter
and colts fan eh…cant hate on that
want to explain to me what the refs were doing in the drive last night? all those penaltys to the texans was pretty questionable, its like the refs wanted us to win..and in the process not get the other heir to peytons throne Mr Luck
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1 week sig bet with ThePride - Kampmann over Alves
2 Week sig/pic bet with TheDragon - Diaz over Condit
1 Week sig/pic bet with doonerthesooner - Bendo over Edgar
Or maybe they don't want the texans getting a playoff bye.
Either way peyton was a happy man last night.
that smile could be seen glowing all over the United states
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"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali
1 week sig bet with ThePride - Kampmann over Alves
2 Week sig/pic bet with TheDragon - Diaz over Condit
1 Week sig/pic bet with doonerthesooner - Bendo over Edgar
wow u admitted im right
it WILL be fact
so it isnt right now
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1 Week sig/pic bet with doonerthesooner - Bendo over Edgar
LOL hairybumcrack!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
Did you really say Silva looked great against Irvin-Cote-Leites-Griffin-Maia?
Irvine, elite middleweight champ against a light heavyweight who wasn’t close to title contention?
Cote, who looked ok untill his knee blew out?
Leites, who he went to a decision with?
Griffin, I give him that one
And Maia??? Really? You said he looked great against Maia? You must be a dancing fan cause that’s the only thing you could have judged in that fight. Trying to clown him instead of finish him… I do believe after that fight where he looked great" Dana told him if he pulls that shit again then he would be looking for a new job, best fighter in the world or not…
by KCmmaBadBoy on Dec 23, 2011 5:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I love tools who don't understand sarcasm
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by Reality_Jockey on Dec 23, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
Do you really love them?
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LMAO!!!!
That was fn funny Myth!!!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
Thanks!
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might wanna make it a little more clear next time
why dont you go back to your injured and BORED theory. Maybe he wouldnt be so bored if he took a rematch… Now go ahead ass_jockey state the reasons why he shouldnt have to fight people he has beaten again…..
It's not a theory...
I think him being bored and injured is pretty well known and excepted by people on the inside and people who know way more than some guy on the internet who loves to hate.
Who’s your fav fighter KCmmaWannabeBadGirl so I can pick on everything he’s done? I guess Silva being the consensus top P4P fighter is bullshit according to you huh? lol
Credible P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top fighters making them look like they don't belong and has done it for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody including top guys)
#3: GSP (long time champ but can't stop people that others can who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating compared to #1 and #2... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Dec 23, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
BTW
Chael even came out and said that he believed Silva was injured. If he doesn’t deny it then that means you can’t. Keep hatin! Denying that he was bored in those other fights makes me wonder how much about fighting you really know cause it’s that obvious to everyone who’s seen him fight time and time again.
Credible P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top fighters making them look like they don't belong and has done it for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody including top guys)
#3: GSP (long time champ but can't stop people that others can who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating compared to #1 and #2... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Dec 23, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
dude you bitch like a fuckin woman
You don’t get it. Besides the Belfort fight, I’m not impressed with any of his recent wins. Sonnen was a hail mary move. Even if I wanted to be a huge Silva fan I couldn’t cause there not room for both of us on his dick.
So I’m sorry for having an opposing opinion, my bad mr mma guy…next time I need a keyboard warrior to tell me what an injury feels like or to get they’re approval about how much I really know about mma ill definetly make sure to run it by you champ.
by KCmmaBadBoy on Dec 24, 2011 12:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Looked great RJ?
The Cote, Leitas and Maia fights were the WORST fights by a champion just about ever? He clearly kicked the Sandman’s ass and made Griffin look like a clown. But the other 3 fights were horrible fights from a so called champion. Anderson’s got all the talent in the world as a fighter albeit with probably some weaker wrestling that is not often exposed. He’s awesome everywhere else. Both those 3 fights were BS and I forever lost respect for that guy. Add that to his “no habla ingles” or whatever the portugese version of that is in his post fight interviews after being one of the longest reigning champs for an American company is unacceptable to me.
Oh Chael you kidder you. Anything for a laugh huh??
Jerry curls are dangerous though..
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I'd like to see Chael v Jones
Probably be quite entertaining. Would be good to see Jones on his back….
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Dec 23, 2011 3:07 PM EST reply actions
Except we wouldn't see Jones on his back
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Chaels not capable of taking him down…..
yawn
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Dec 23, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
I'd bet everything that Chael wouldn't put Jones on his back if they fought
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Don't do it
He’s not small at LHW and he’s as good as anyone at getting a man down. The best thing is he’s not afraid to go where angels fear to tread to get get the TD either.
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Dec 23, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
i'ma be honest here
i’m not saying somebody should do this, but
what if somebody went for a low blow kick on jones, i know it’s sterotypical and all but u never know. in 99% of fights if a fighter goes for a low blow no points will be taken away, and the fight will resume upon a 5 minute rest period.
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by daniel worby on Dec 23, 2011 4:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dont you know JBJ got weak nuts?
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Dec 23, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
right!
Like that comment starts off about nut kicking… Then you assume its leading to an idea that albeit sounds like its going to be dumb, at least an idea was coming… Then BAM! comments over.
Weirdness.
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by daniel worby on Dec 23, 2011 5:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
haha
It was amusing to say the least
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Dec 23, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
Jones would sub sonnen fucking quick lol. Out of those dudes I can see him beating st. Pierre. Against Jds no fucking way lmao and like I said Jones would sub this dude easy. If sonnen beats munoz we will see a rematch and silva can shut this dude up
by zesotheclown on Dec 23, 2011 3:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
JDS might be the easiest fight out of the three. Both of those have a chance to nullify Chael’s strength, JDS who knows?
by p123 on Dec 23, 2011 3:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
JDS is way to strong and has a base that chael wouldn't and more than likely couldn't budge.
The only real possibility here is GSP moving up in the next year and fighting the heel sonnen.
People are taking the JDS thing seriously?
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How strong is JDS really though? He almost got crushed by a gassed Carwin. Strength is not as big of a factor in wrestling as people think. You see huge shredded monsters get tossed by skinny guys all the time…
It’s actually the last second of their fight, Carwin pulls off this ridicolous sweep with just man power that JDS has no answer for. Point being, JDS doesn’t have the Brock Lesnar / Shane Carwin / Alistair Overeem kind of immeasurable strength.
I dont recall any sweep and all play by plays never mention any sweep. The last 10 seconds of that fight end with JDS getting a takedown on Carwin, Carwin going for a sub but running out of time.
Yea, Carwin does a guilltone choke from bottom mount, and he rolls JDS in a way I’ve never really seen. It was a clear display of the massive difference in strength, which is only natural. Brock and Shane are freaking gorillas.
So if I understand you correctly, you’re taking a sweep from Shane Carwin(a very powerful HW) in the last like 5 seconds of a fight that JDS knew he had already won as a setting point that Sonnen could dominate JDS?
Absolutely not. The issue given to me was strength, my response was to make people realize he doesn’t have Brock strength which we all know, and Chael is mighty strong, and would probably be coming in around 220 , 225 fresh off a cycle.
It’s not like JDS would bully CHael.
Wow
I actually feel dumber after reading through half of this thread….
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by daniel worby on Dec 23, 2011 5:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dude, you're a dork.
Watch that fight again, JDS didn’t even try and stop that, he knew the fight was over.
What you saw was a guy who already knew he won just have a sigh of relief and take his foot off the gas realizing he’ll be fighting for the title and a guy on a comeback make one last push in his return fight. Nothing to see here.
What about earlier when carwin went for the takedown? Or when gonzaga did? Or Roy? All those guys did. And you saw them get stuffed over and over again.
Maybe YOU haven’t seen JDS’s TDD, or watch him roll and grapple but other people have. Go watch some of his training videos. JDS has great TDD, just because you haven’t seen much of it in a fight doesn’t mean anything. That’s more to the credit of junior, not letting anyone get a solid takedown on him or being on his back.
No, you might haven’t seen junior’s TDD because he hasnt been “tested” (stupid) and you might not ever see it the way he trains and fights. He won’t let it get there. He keeps you in his world and just as Cain found out, he only needs a split second to set up his distance and timing until the boom taps your skull and your body shuts off.
Fact – we’ve seen Chael get beat, stopped, subbed, and out-grappled (Maia). And that’s with the help of steroids.
Fact – we’ve seen Junior easily handle all of those things, not ever being in trouble. We’ve seen him stop everyone except Roy and Carwin (granite chins). Going the distance only twice in his 15 fight career.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Dec 25, 2011 12:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yea man seriously you think Jds would be the easiest? For real? Jds would knock holiness out in the Damn clinch you are crazy. The easiest fight for him would he gsp. Jds Hahaha that’s really funny
by zesotheclown on Dec 23, 2011 4:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
wtf is wrong with you p123?
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by daniel worby on Dec 23, 2011 4:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What’s wrong with me? I’m just pointing out the fact that our HeavyWeight Champ, has never been in a fight with a wrestler who came to wrestle. Considering that JDS is 240, and Chael with his roids and not having to cut weight could be at least 220-225, this fight is not really as far off as you tihnk…
I’m sorry man but no dice. Jds would kill sonnen even off his back. If thet were to ever fight (lmao) and sonnen heat Jds dude I’d buy you dinner on a mAN date take you to an event buy you all the hats and shirts you want take you home hug you and say I’m sorry and leave lmao
by zesotheclown on Dec 23, 2011 5:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
alright p123..
Guess you’re entitled to your opinion man. Its utterly astonishing to me, but to each their own. I can respect that I suppose.
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by daniel worby on Dec 23, 2011 5:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What’s my opinion in my post? That JDS has an unproven grappling game? Or that Chael has some chance? Both are true, you can’t just write Chael off because of 15-20 pounds, and Im not saying it would happen or wouldn’t but saying it’s possible.
that's why i said fair enough
I think Jds is a fucking beast and would make Sonnen look like a massacre. But you’re right, there’s a chance, so that’s why I said fair enough. I’m flabbergasted by the fact you think his smaller size could do anything to the great TDD dos Santos has, but whatever man. Have at er’.
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by daniel worby on Dec 23, 2011 5:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh me 2. I think JDS is probably the real thing, but I can’t 100% until I see it you know? I think JDS is one of the few HWs who actually move like a smaller guy fluidity wise. I think based on JDS movement and agility, he can pick up things like wrestling and BJJ with no issues.
See the thing is, fluidity is the issue of the mass divide between the lighter and the heavier weights. Lighter weight guys have all the skills, you see striking and wrestling combined real well down there, sure they may have a superior wrestler, but everyone is competent everywhere.
This is because of the speed and agility IMO, the heavier weights have more power, and not everyone can move like that and you see a lot of boxy movement.
JDS is in a perfect scenario because he’s big enough to be a HW 6’4 and 240, but he’s also fluid like a LW. He can afford to throw technical punches, he’s 240 fucking pounds you know.
JDS hasn’t really proven great TDD against a guy coming to wrestle is my point.
Gonzaga never WENT IN on JDS and neither did Cain. They didn’t really follow up or anything. Which probably speaks volumes of JDS footwork.
What’s really impressive about JDS is that he’s knocking guys out left and right, yet no one really shoots on him? Why? That’s gotta be a footwork thing right there.
But against Sonnen, that won’t matter too much. Sonnen is balls to the wall wrestling your ass , my entire point is, we really don’t know how JDS would fare against that..
Carwin’s offensive wrestling is terrible. Now I’m not saying to clinch with him, but this man’s double is horrendous, D2 Champ or not.
Cain and Gonzaga never WENT IN like I mentioned, probably because of JDS excellent footwork.
So, it would be interesting to see what happens, is really all I’m bringing up. I overstated my point to get this point across though…
lol alright man
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by daniel worby on Dec 23, 2011 5:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And this is a reason I think Brock has a clear path to the title. Overeem’s wrestling is real suspect, and JDS , we don’t really know how he would react to non stop TDs and such, it’s just that Brock runs away like a bitch when he gets tagged, so it’s very up in the air. If Brock just came to wrestle, and could shake off a couple of shots without going nuts, he has a clear path to victory. LNP gorilla style..
Yea I’ll keep my comments about what you said to myself. I don’t see it happening but if you do you must have faith in a force I don’t know about jk but i don’t see Jds having any problems with sonnen none and weight doesn’t matter I’m going by athleticism and sonnen may be strong and everything but you know what nvm
by zesotheclown on Dec 23, 2011 6:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I get you p123, can't understand why most people on here don't feel the same way.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
true, Jones trainers say he has almost mastered the art of levitation.
I really don’t think Chael would have a chance against Jones
Go away Chael
Your sorry ass got choked out. Get over it.
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and he won 4 rounds against the #1 lb for lb fighter when he has only lost no more than 2 rounds combined in all of his previous UFC fights
Name a better contender?
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Dec 23, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
High entertainment value!
Man, I need a new sig!
by Danas A Crossdresser on Dec 23, 2011 3:08 PM EST reply actions
Hahaha, fantastic stuff..
as always from Chael. Can we get this guy on sherdog or some form of mma radio??
You're kind of a retard, huh?
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That's what the name says doesn't it buckeroo?
You have no humour, no?
by DrainBamaged on Dec 23, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'm American....
We don’t have humour, we have HUMOR!
USA! USA! USA!
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You don't have colour either, so the US still looks like Steamboat Mickey?
But really, If we could keep Chael away from the political speak I’d be damn entertained listening to him shoot the shit once a week. Why not?
by DrainBamaged on Dec 23, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
I have no idea what steamboat mickey is...
And I have no desire to listen to Chael say anything.
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Lol
It’s a b&w Mickey Mouse movie from like 1930. Just watched that shit with my kids on Monday
King Kong ain't got nothing on me!
aaah ok
Hell of a reference lol
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First ever Mickey Mouse cartoon.
Fair enough, different strokes I guess, you just don’t like his schtick.
I’m a big fan of satire, so I’m able to laugh and take Chael’s crazy talk with a pinch of salt. I mean it’s absolutely guilt edged, golden copy for journalists.
I am kind of surprised people are so incensed by his bullshit, it’s just bullshit?
by DrainBamaged on Dec 23, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Not incensed.
Just not funny. I feel the same about Mayhem Miller – the petulant 5-year old act gets annoying.
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3 losses
To bad Chael would lose to all 3 of those guys!
I'd favor him over
GSP
When a fighter says something in poor taste I usually forward it to UFC’s customer service e-mail to make sure it is addressed and they are either fined or fired, depending on how severe.
I'd favour him too
GSP’s not gonna knock him out and certainly won’t outwrestle him
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Dec 23, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
It's not like Chael will KO GSP either
so GSP would easily win this as I’m pretty sure he would sub him
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 23, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Chael NEVER KO's fighters haha
He grinds out wins. He’ll do the same to GSP, too strong and too good a wrestler for GSP.
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Dec 23, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
Infact
GSP would’ve tapped to the beating Chael put on Silva before he got subbed…
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Dec 23, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
In fact?
How about this fact – GSP wouldn’t have been in the same position as Silva was in that fight.
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 23, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Of course not.
Being the lighter and weaker wrestler he’ll stuff those relentless TD’s from Sonnen
My bad…
SMH
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Dec 23, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
must be the acronym of the week here
pretty sure that GSP is a bit quicker than Sonnen. Speed kills, or bores in GSP’s case but you can’t say that Sonnen would be man handling GSP and who said anything about fighting at 185? Sonnen at 170 would last 1 round before he gassed.
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 23, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
Sonnen never gasses
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Dec 29, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Nope
Chael is a very big Middleweight.
If he was to cut down to welter, I am sure he would suffer a lot, so he’d hardly be able to perform.
he'd just relax the TRT injections and get to 170 easily and still win
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Dec 23, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
"he’d hardly be able to perform"
Isn’t that why he’s on TRT in the first place?
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
I'd like to see him against JBJ or JDS
just for the lulz
Because anyone who thinks he stands a chance against even GSP is retarded, and seeing Chael being pwned would be tons of fun.
Even more so than his comments!
Because anyone who thinks he stands a chance against even GSP is retarded
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 23, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
im a power bottom
this doesnt portray us at all
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Chael wants to fight the best,silva doesn’t want a rematch with sonnen so he feels he should call out the other top fighters..understandable
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by letter19 on Dec 23, 2011 3:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Ha!
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I expect a fan to laugh but reality is people should applaud a fighter who has a desire to compete against the best
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by letter19 on Dec 23, 2011 3:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's locked in to fight Munoz...
Why is he talking about Silva? That makes no sense…what’s the point in saying Anderson doesn’t want to fight him when he’s contractually obligated to fight someone else?
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how does that not make sense
It happens all the time with just about all fighters.Diaz has been talking about gsp for years and they weren’t even in the same company.Jones and rashad have been talking about each other for months while being signed to fight other people etc etc
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by letter19 on Dec 23, 2011 3:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You won't admit that Chael speaks excessively about Anderson eh
I haven’t heard anything about Jones from Rashad recently or vice versa…
Nor have I heard anything from Nick Diaz…
Have you?
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jones and rashad haven't spent months talking about each other? diaz hasn't spent tons of interview time talking about gsp?
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by letter19 on Dec 23, 2011 3:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Give it up for Sexual Chocolate!!
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Chael Sonnen isn't beating GSP...nor Andeson Silva, nor Jon Jones, nor JDS
Especially not in a 5 round fight…those guys are champions for a reason…Chael brings one dimension to the table…it may work against the regular contenders but not against champions like GSP or Anderson Silva who have multiple ways of finishing a fight
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Who is the gsp you know that has mutiple ways of finishing fights?
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by letter19 on Dec 23, 2011 3:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The guy with a black belt in Karate, BJJ...and excellent wrestling
The guy that has defended his WW title 6 straight times
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good question^
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by letter19 on Dec 23, 2011 3:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's finished more fights than he has decisioned
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talking of decisions
go look at mr sonnens record and see how many hes finished.. LOL
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by Rampagelangford on Dec 23, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Shhhhhhh...he's finished almost as much....
But he has more decisions so we can use that
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how many during the 6 fight title reign you mentioned?
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by letter19 on Dec 23, 2011 3:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
1......
:(
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how many did he lose?
Exactly – go fuck yourselves
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 23, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
every fight he's been in has been finished
just sometimes it takes 25 minutes of beating before its over with
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+1
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 23, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
All he is eyeing is a new guy
to lose to. Someone that loses a third of their fights should not even be allowed to talk.
Chael is crazy like a fox
he’s trying all kinds of shit to get Silva to bite
by biggant on Dec 23, 2011 3:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
and he shouldn't have too try to get him to bite
Silva should be more than willing to sign for a rematch
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by letter19 on Dec 23, 2011 3:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Too true man.
If Chael really isn’t in his class like he believes or proclaims to, than just fight him and whoop him again? Look what it did for Mir’s rep beating Nog again.
If Anderson could shut up the biggest mouth in MMA twice, BOOM. Just kills so much of Chael’s cred.
by DrainBamaged on Dec 23, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
whoop him again? ya see that is the problem. silva never whopped chael, he got a hail mary sub, but we all saw silva getting his ass whooped by sonnen.
silva knows sonnen will beat him up again in a rematch and he is scared to take that fight.
by Conan the Barbarian on Dec 23, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
if Anderson didn't let go of that Triangle Chael would be dead.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
If Chael didn't box Anderson's ears
but instead drove both thumbs in to his eyes, Anderson would be blind. What’s your point?
by DrainBamaged on Dec 23, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
my point is that if you had a penis
you’d be a man. Instead you have a stinky twat and a weird emfatuation with unicorns. The fact of the matter is Anderson was barely bruised after that fight and Chael was unconcious.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
You are a fool.
That’s where you have to go to try and tart up your argument. Fuck…
It was a great fight, a close. And yeah with a clear winner which I have no problem with. And certainly no reason especially financially, which is the whole reason we have a UFC, there shouldn’t be a rematch.
But mentioning murder in the cage, cop the fuck on good lad.
by DrainBamaged on Dec 23, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Man inccorect word selection.
I’m just trying to be even handed despite the poor vocabulary. Couldn’t call myself a Chael fan or an Anderson fan. I like fights, they both fight well.
Chael makes me laugh alot, it’s even more funny though to see people take out the pitchforks and burning torches against him? What the fuck has he said that Lesnar wouldn’t say if you pushed him to get poetic?
by DrainBamaged on Dec 23, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
How can you fight when you're injured?
Chael will get.his chance if he beats munoz. It’s convenient how you never bring up the fact that chael blatantly cheated in the first fight. But you can hold onto your belief silva doesn’t want to fight him. Once chael loses again, you guys will all jump on another bandwagon like usual.
by MMA Boss on Dec 23, 2011 4:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
As much as I hate him, I have to admit that that's hilarious
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by DrainBamaged on Dec 23, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Chael sonnen is the Gilbert arenas of mma
This is the last chael thread in reading and or commenting on and it has little to do with his foolish “humor” antics and obvious lack of iq and worthiness.
It has most to do with the idiots who come to his defense on anything and act out as his minions . Anyone chael mentions in a quote paragraph interview etc , his minions start talkin shit about and hating on rather than talkin about mma or realizing that the people talks about are real martial artists whom he is incredibly jealous of . It’s just comforting to know that I’m much smarter than his minions and smart enough to see through his awesome “shtick” . Luckily for mania and I his time is coming to a close soon and he’ll become irrelevant yet again when zuffa no longer can carry him and sweep his transgressions and losses under the rug.
Good day.
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by wooly shambler on Dec 23, 2011 3:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Lulz.....
This was funnier than the original post. Well, send us a postcard from the ivory tower then. See ya!
by DrainBamaged on Dec 23, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
He just won by sub, he punches in his fights, on top of that he's a very good wrestler.
I think that there makes him a “real” mixed martial artist. And everyone here knows he’s shtick, some just like it. And does being on one side or other of this particular topic define everyone’s intelligence?
cheal would also be alot bigger than Gsp . But all in all that would not be a fight i would want to see
by ciprainocota on Dec 23, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
there is a reason i watch mma and not wrestling
by ciprainocota on Dec 23, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just waiting on this guy to fight, he's an actor, doesn't talk shit about anybody but Silva
He was a personality lacking ass mouse for about 26 fights prior to UFC 117
I buried Banago.
A. Silva
No
He’s just Lance Storm.
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Meh... i do want to see Chael lose 3 more times...
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Chsel, is that you?
Are you that dumb that you actually believe he doesn’t want to fight anderson?
by MMA Boss on Dec 23, 2011 4:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Did everyone forget chael is a lhw dropout and failure?
He couldn’t hang in that division so did what he does best: dope up and try to cheat his way to the top. Jones and jds would destroy chael as bad as silva is going to in june.
Nobody cared about this guy until he started running his mouth to promote fights. You guys are very dumb if you think he actually means any of the shit he says. He’s trying to bring attention to himself and some of you.are falling for it hook, line and sinker.
by MMA Boss on Dec 23, 2011 4:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions
i know he still wants to fight anderson, maybe i should have said i hope he doesn’t get too old by the time anderson grows a pair big enough to get in there with him again
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by MMA Boss on Dec 23, 2011 4:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ya no doubt, he's trying man
Let him learn.
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by daniel worby on Dec 23, 2011 4:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's cool bro, I was joking. Welcome aboard.
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:)
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by daniel worby on Dec 23, 2011 5:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
what part of your comment would have indicated that you were kidding?
you were clearly trying to boss around the new guy
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If u don't get I'm a sonnen thread in the first 5 mins your doomed
My god there are a lot of post about this tard. He would beat gsp easily
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no he wouldn't
That makes you the tard.
It may be very possible he defeats Gsp, but writing off a guy who’s 23-2 and has looked close to nothing short of unstoppable against the caliber of opponents he’s faced, and the fact Gsp is a large Welterweight to begin with, and the fact Sonnen would be fighting at a new weight class for himself against the fucking king of the Welterweight universe soorrrta makes it quite clear that Gsp would at least stand a good chance.
So take off those biased glasses and here, try these ones… Like em? They’re called Oakley’s “Reality”
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by daniel worby on Dec 23, 2011 5:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Gsp has never faced someone that big
And what gsp does best (wrestle you) sonnen does better IMO. And sonnens relentless pace would make for a long night for gsp
Thinking gsp has a chance especially after this surgury makes you a tard
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I really don’t think GSP does well at 185. He’s an amazing talent, but he’d be giving up some massive size there.
Like Yushin Okami and Chael would straight up dwarf him, even if he added more muscle…
Yep
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wow so not only are you retarded
You can’t read. Listen, I took a reasonable approach to it and admitted Chael could beat Gsp. I also said at Welterweight and you guys start talking about Gsp at 185. Did you read my comment? Or just keep your biased blind shades on? If you can’t live in reality, tell me you guys are having a fantasy conversation and I’ll join someone else’s convo.
Gsp has a chance against anybody on the planet that’s fighting him in the welterweight division. And if you wanna go a step further, he also has a chance against anyone at middleweight. Not saying he auto wins every fight at mw. But to write him off is nothing shy or ridiculous.
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by daniel worby on Dec 23, 2011 5:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
nothing shy *of
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by daniel worby on Dec 23, 2011 5:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
is that a real enough response?
or still too fantasy?
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no thats just not true
he doesnt have a chance against the top 5 of the middleweight div hes way to small…silva okami and sonnen would distroy him
i also think munoz souza weidman maia and bisping would all beat him
and i never mentioned 185 p123 did, i responded to your comment in reality.
i dont think gsp stands a chance against sonnen and if u read my comment above i said that if it was at 170 as long as the weight cut didnt kill sonnen gsp would be doomed
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i honestly can't fathom
How some ppl can be so closed minded to say Bisping, etc would beat Gsp! Like what world is this?
“*doesn’t have a chance against the top 5 of the middleweight div”?!?*
C’mon!! Are you serious? No chance?!
Shit is unbelievable to me. If you can’t see what I’m talking about, forget it. Least I tried to understand where you were coming from.
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by daniel worby on Dec 23, 2011 5:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the same people believing that any of the fights Sonnen mentioned will happen
are the same DF’s that thought Junie Browning was replying to them on this website
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 23, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
i cant see what your talking about honestly
not trying to be a dick, i actually want to see where your coming from
i dont see where this bisping hate comes from
the man has lost 3 times( 2 were questionable losses – but i guess that makes up for his questionable win over hammel lol)
one of those loses to rashad , who is an elite mma wrestler and he arguable beat him
and i dont think gsp has a chance in all honesty he walks around around 185 and just gives up to much reach and size at 185 i even think someone like stann or belfort if they rushed him would win. But i wouldnt say for sure they would
everyone i listed in my precious post i honestly believe would beat him
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Bisping is 6’2 , and he’s pretty big for MW size wise. GSP would be giving up a lot to do that. Thing is, Bisping is great off his back in terms of getting back to position and not taking damage and what not, but GSP LNP from Guard should probably be the likely option.
Bisping’s one of the only guys I think is not a dangerous fight for GSP at 185.
omg
First off Gsp walks around at 190-197lbs. So you’re off there. And I’m still just trying to make you understand you’re saying ZERO chance against these MW’s.
ZERO!!!!
Gsp and the words ZERO CHANCE at MW don’t belong together okay? I can see you thinking he’ll lose. Fine. So be it. But ZERO chance at MW is ridiculous. Its seriously ridiculous. Anyone who thinks if Gsp went to Mw and fought 7x against the top 7 opponents at MW that he would emerge with a 0-7 record at MW is absolutely clinically mental.
I’m done trying to explain this. No hard feelings, but we clearly won’t see eye to eye.
Cheers man
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by daniel worby on Dec 23, 2011 5:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
depends on which eye KJ is looking at
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by hairybumcrack on Dec 23, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Dude Sonnen can’t even walk around at 190-197, Sonnen is probably 220 – 230 walk around, and this is for both of them in shape.
Who said GSP has zero chance?
All I said is that it won’t be easy.
GSP would basically be just fighting weight cutting LHWs, that’s tough to swallow for any small WW who’s beefed up…
There’s only so much beef you can put on before it doesn’t help anymore…
your right
i shouldnt have said zero
i think hed have an extremely slim chance against the guys i stated
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kale and p123
Do you or do you not feel he would go 0 for 7 against the top 7 MW’s of the UFC?
Hairybum, thx for displaying that everyone out there isn’t blind lol.
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by daniel worby on Dec 23, 2011 5:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No i dont think gsp would ever go on a 7 fight losing streak
hes too tough mentally for that
however, i do think there is 7 maybe 8 mws who i would pick to win over him if they were to fight
and i was being serious when i said you were right for the record… no one has zero chance
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First off, there is no such thing as a top 7 in MW. Lol, there’s like a top 5 and everyone else is ranked below 25…
Off the top of my head,
Anderson at 185, GSP def has a chance to win, but it’s gotta be LNP for all 5 rounds, and god damn, Anderson is just so dangerous. GSP does have a chance though of course. GSP is actually tailor made to beat Silva, just the size and tenacity of Silva might be too much.
Vitor has always had trouble with wrestlers, but god damn that boy gotta have the most dangerous hands in America right now. He doesn’t knock you out, he puts people in straight comas.
Yushin Okami is a tough tough match up for GSP. Probably tougher than the other two IMO, as GSP has no avenues to win here. Yushin uses a defensive striking style, so it will be hard to take him down coming off him being to aggressive, and he’s a solid wrestler himself. Yushin’s long reach and solid boxing technique is just a disaster fight for GSP.
Chael Sonnen, that’s another tough one as well. How does GSP stack up against one of the other elite wrestlers in MMA? That is tough for me to consider what happens here should be an excellent fight though.
Maia, GSP should be able to handle everywhere, but it’s still Maia, who’s subs gotta be a nightmare for GSP as well.
what about weidman and munoz
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you don't see how that's an option
Buuuuut you think Chael vs Jds is somehow an option….
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by daniel worby on Dec 23, 2011 5:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Of course I do. I did see the Sonnen picture that has him looking like the freaking Hulk on roids when he went to train with Shields and Diaz guys.
Sonnen was 207 against Marquardt, that qualifies for HW, and if you give him some time, let him eat for once, he can be 225 in probably a couple of months.
Chael making WW on the other hand, is just not happening. That’s like asking Hendo to make WW. In fact Chael can probably get much bigger than Hendo…
you guys make me tired
I’m going to sleep. No hard feelings boys….
… But if I ever see either of your faces around here I swear to fuck I’m going to kill you.
ahem
Sorry about that. Anyways, best of luck in life and all that other good stuff.
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by daniel worby on Dec 23, 2011 5:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Chael’s a joke and needs to go away. We all know that if he wins, he’ll call SIlva out and get ignored again. Not a Jon Jones fan, but would LOVE to see him smash Sonnen. Sonnen says he “destroyed” Silva? How come when I look at the stats, Silva has a submission victory over Sonnen? He needs to wake up and smell what he’s shoveling.
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CHAEL IS ON OFF THE RECORD AGAIN RIGHT NOW
(He walked off last time when host Landsberg pushed his buttons too much)
If anyone cares to tune in. Looks like he’ll be on for least 10 mins more.
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by daniel worby on Dec 23, 2011 6:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
i hope my troll job confuses some lol
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by daniel worby on Dec 23, 2011 6:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
man mania needs the vid of this though!!!
Landsberg gets sonnen again!!! Haha they left out the best part here!!! This thread needs the vid to do it justice where the interview again almost ends with sonnen walking off!! This is fucking brilliant! Landsberg is sonnen’s kryptonite and he calls him out perfectly!!!
“I didn’t know I was supposed to kiss your ass like everyone else does”
Hahaha take that bitch!!!
He even says he knows that sonnen is screwed if he doesn’t have ppl playing along cause all his shit is pre prepared. So you go against the grain and he’s screwed!! Hahaha
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by daniel worby on Dec 23, 2011 6:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
jones vs chael
Please dana book it !!!!!! I want to see this troll getting beat bad.. please
by kenshing on Dec 23, 2011 10:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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