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Jake Shields: I would like to be the number one contender by the end of 2012

2011 brought Jake Shields back-to-back losses and the death of his father. Can he turn things around in 2012 with a win over Yoshihiro Akiyama at UFC 144 in Japan? Photo via Showtime Sports.

It wasn't that long ago that Jake Shields had won 15 consecutive fights over some pretty big names, putting himself in position to be considered one of the world's best 170-pounders.

Fast-forward to late 2011 and he's now coming off back-to-back losses for the first time in his career.

After falling to the Canadian jab of death against Georges St. Pierre at UFC 129 last April, the former Strikeforce middleweight champion was stiffened by Jake Ellenberger at UFC Fight Night 25, just days after the passing of his father back on Sept. 17.

In short, it's been a pretty shitty year for the American Jiu-Jitsu grappler.

That's why his first bout of 2012, a welterweight scrap against Yoshihiro Akiyama at UFC 144 on Feb. 26 in Japan, is such an important first step in re-establishing himself as a dominant force in the promotion's crowded 170-pound division.

"I'm feeling great about my opponent. [Akiyama] is someone that I should match up good against. I just wanna have a great year. 2011 wasn't my best year and I just wanna get back on track and get a couple of big wins to get myself lined back up for another title shot. I would like to be the number one contender by the end of 2012. Right now I wanna see Nick [Diaz} go out there and take that belt and then I'll worry about what I'm gonna do from there."

Hear more from Shields, courtesy of Fighting Famous TV, after the jump.

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Anyone think Shields gets back "in the mix?" Or is he going to be relegated to the role of division gatekeeper for the foreseeable future?

For more on Shields vs. Akiyama at UFC 144 click here.

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why?

so you can try to blind the champ again?

Jon Jones opponent's don't gas, he just beats the will out of them.

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by ShivanTiger on Dec 22, 2011 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

hes going to grow them out for a year first thats how he won a round

So he knows they have to be extra long and sharp this time. Time to scratch jakey boy since your punches do no damage.

Long live the dragon!!!

by Octagon Brilliance on Dec 22, 2011 1:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

THIS JUST IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JAKE SHIELDS ABDUCTED BY PHUKET POLICE!!!!! PLEADING WITH EMBASSY FOR TICKET HOME!!!!!

I dont know what happened. I was walking down the street and BOOM Im in Thailand with a bottle being smashed on my head. -Jame Shields

Jake Shields sister had this to comment:

Jake is such a DB. He didnt get me anything for Christmas.

More on this story as it develops on Jake Shields facebook page……STAY TUNED

by DJ Pullout on Dec 22, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Ummm DJ i think you're reading the wrong facebook page
I dont know what happened. I was walking down the street and BOOM Im in Thailand with a bottle being smashed on my head. -Jame Shields

"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
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by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 22, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Jame Gumb>Jame Shields

Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

by Brizzle T on Dec 22, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I swear Joe Silva must hate Akiyama...

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by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 1:15 PM EST reply actions  

He never gets an easy one to be sure.

Someone on here i think did a fanpost breaking down different “syndromes” Like Forrest Griffin Syndrome means never ever getting easy winnable fight.

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by djganesh on Dec 22, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Well the fighter does have to be good enough to at least have the possibility or the option of having an easy winnable fight

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by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

lol, i hear ya, i just give Forrest a lot of shit =P

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by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I like ya jake but most of the UFC ww fighters have your number now

Don’t feel good about your fight with gsp , he doesn’t fight anyone let alone finish them , when you think about contender status think about ellenberger , think about condit and kos and nick . Have fun and good luck

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by wooly shambler on Dec 22, 2011 1:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

wooly ur so far off on this one

NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012

by 209stk on Dec 22, 2011 2:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No he's not, he's right on point

Shields isn’t going to sniff the top 3, maybe even top 5 in 2012

by KOaddict on Dec 22, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes he will

There’s nobody at 170 who can stop him either, other than GSP, Condit, Diaz or possibly Fitch. Ellenberger he’s fought. He probably wins that rematch.

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

That's funny

You just named 5 fighters he either cannot beat or has already been beaten by. No way in hell he wins a rematch against Ellenberger, just stop it.

by KOaddict on Dec 22, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

No way in hell...

Where do you get that from? Your 1 minute expertise on the subject?

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not hard to figure out unambig

If you can’t see Ellenberger is by far the better fighter, then i suggest you watch a little more of his fights. I don’t think i’m in the minority here, i’m pretty sure most would agree.

by KOaddict on Dec 22, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

That was a winnable fight for Meathead all he had to do was get a little more aggressive

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by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

No offence to ya'll, since a bunch of you scored higher than I did in the pool

But several times I scratched my head when 90% of you picked the clearly inferior guy and swore up and down he was 120% certain to win.

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly

I still think he has the stand up to beat Kongo, I wasn’t expecting him to just stand in front of him to be taken down, I also underestimated Kongo’s top control.

Jon Jones opponent's don't gas, he just beats the will out of them.

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by ShivanTiger on Dec 22, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Meathead should go train with Rampage

and just work on TDD. if he can improve marginally there, then he can win consistently. He is never going to be a top guy, he is too old, and started to late, but he can certainly win more than he will lose, and remain exciting.

Jon Jones opponent's don't gas, he just beats the will out of them.

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by ShivanTiger on Dec 22, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Great point

and Rampage does have really good TDD, but i think he’d be better served training with CAIN / Cormier in that department, or Brock, seeing as he’s a HW, they would be able to challenge him a bit more

by KOaddict on Dec 22, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure which "bozos" you are referring to

I personally said that Kongo is by far the more experienced, and has legit kick boxing and would present all sorts of problems for Meathead that he had not encountered before. That and his wrestling is better then Meathead too. Although i like Meathead and think he is a solid prospect, i doubt he’ll ever reach the top 5

by KOaddict on Dec 22, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha how can you say he "probably wins that rematch"?

He got his ass handed to him in like 30 seconds…

and you named 4 other people that can stop him.. and those are all the top of the division.

JakeS could possibly be a gatekeeper at best

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 22, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Right. Because every person who has lost in 1 minute has gone on to lose every fight they ever fought thereafter.

GSP has been knocked out in the first round 10 consecutive times now.

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Well that just makes no sense at all

I never said he would lose every fight after that… you are making stuff up because your argument is ridiculous.

If he fights JakE again.. I, personally, expect the same result.

I was arguing with you saying that he would probably win a rematch with JakE….

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 22, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Ellenberger has proven nothing more than he hit him with a lucky punch

based on your bullshit reasoning, Serra would have knocked out GSP in the rematch

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

There were a lot of people that called it for Ellenberger, it had nothing to do with luck

I heard radio show hosts and other fighters picking Ellenberger not just the fans.

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by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow.. that makes no sense

Serra never drops people and JakE does in almost every fight…. JakeS never drops people but gets dropped in almost all his fights…

Hmmm…

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 22, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

You have 45 seconds of Jake vs Jake

nothing that would indicate Ellenberger would do the same thing every time. In fact, history shows Shields’ chin would stand up 99% of the time. Everybody has an off-day, buddy.

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha you are seriously getting worked up over this

Its all opinions man relax. I dont have to agree with you just because you like JakeS more than JakE. I would love to see them fight again

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 22, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

so your saying he can beat everybody except the top 5 or 6

yeah, that’ll get him a title shot

Jon Jones opponent's don't gas, he just beats the will out of them.

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by ShivanTiger on Dec 22, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

All he has to do is win 3 in a row and he's in the hunt,yeah

That’s how this shit works

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s how this shit works

that only works if the guys he is fighting move up in ranking incrementally. Besides the belt in that division is tied up for the next 18 months. What he can do, is beat 3 guys, then wait for Anderson to retire, an move up to MW, which is where he should be fighting anyway

Jon Jones opponent's don't gas, he just beats the will out of them.

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by ShivanTiger on Dec 22, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I can agree with that

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah, Jake will go on a tear again

He defeats most of the top WWs. I’d say Jake Shields is probably ranked 4 or 5.

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Shields is the real deal

He’s no Jason Miller

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

He got unconvincingly decisioned by GSP and then knocked out by fluke

He’ll be back, and you’ll be accepting my greatness as a prognosticator.

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

How was it a fluke?

And how was it unconvincingly? GSP dropped him several times.. GSP won for sure and JakE beat his ass…

That makes no sense… this is one of those times where a poster is blinded by their love for a fighter

Shields is overrated and will be out of the UFC in the coming year

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 22, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

GSP did the bare minimum to win, and quite frankly embarrased himself and all his fallating Canadian fans

As for Ellenberger, his fucking dad just died. Do you have a dad?

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea I do have a dad...

But if that was hindering JakeS, then he should have fought. If they fought again.. I would pick JakE without a doubt. He is a much much better fighter than JakeS.

GSP didnt go all out but the fight was in the bag the whole time…

Give me a break

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 22, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

In no way was Shield getting KTFO by Ellenber a fluke, i called that shit before the fight, and it happened. The guy recently lost his Dad and his head is elsewhere, not to mention his striking is some of the worst I have ever seen in any combat sport.

by KOaddict on Dec 22, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

He has to improve his stand up - otherwise I agree with you.

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by OJR on Dec 22, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

That's just wrong. :)

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by OJR on Dec 22, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Too harsh?

I stand by my comment HAHA

by KOaddict on Dec 22, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

i've seen better stand up

out of Mayhem Miller

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by ShivanTiger on Dec 22, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

who Shields or Mayhem?

I remember Shields landing alot of open hand slaps and pokes,

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by ShivanTiger on Dec 22, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

When he couldnt see...

That is an important fact. He was poked in his eye numerous times before that.. and IM pretty sure he dropped Jake in the 4th

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 22, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Blinded ? He got poked in one eye

You can see out of the other one

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by wooly shambler on Dec 22, 2011 5:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Miller has serviceable stand up

He did not show that in his last fight, but i’m sure he’ll rebound just fine

by KOaddict on Dec 22, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

He usually does but the stand up he used against Bisping was aweful

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by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe in ring / cage rust

I hate making excuses for fighters, but I truly feel this was his issue that night. I mean, he hasn’t had a fight in how long before then?

by KOaddict on Dec 22, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think it's an excuse, it was a long lay off

And if you look at his last fight before that he went 5 rds with Jake Shields and nearly submitted him at one point. Now one fight after and he’s gassed in rd 2? Yea something was wrong.

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by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

he looked like he trained with hendo for that fight

nothing but overhand rights over and over. Problem is, he can’t throw it correctly, is slow, and has no power

Jon Jones opponent's don't gas, he just beats the will out of them.

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by ShivanTiger on Dec 22, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea I was like "Miller wtf are you doing??"

Worst I’ve ever seen him look in a fight.

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by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking that same thing

He should have just kept taking it to the mat and going for subs

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 22, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

but he doesn't have a good shot

and Bisping showed once again that he has above average TDD

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by ShivanTiger on Dec 22, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Same here

I was pretty disapointed in him, I thought he’d take him down and choke him out for sure, and if they fight again, I still think he can, but he needs to stay active and get his rythm back

by KOaddict on Dec 22, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I know

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by ShivanTiger on Dec 22, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you not see Miller almost choke shields out?

He had him dead to rights with a RNC if i recall and Shields was saved by the bell, had it been 3-5 seconds longer, he would have tapped or ZZZZZzzzzzzz. Give Miller a pass on his last fight with Bisping, he’ll never look that bad again, i know he’s better then that. Anybody who has watched his fights over the years knows the same thing.

by KOaddict on Dec 22, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I fully agree

People hate on him for his antics… but oh well. People do that same thing with every fighter. I admit that I do the same thing too.. but I also try to look at fighters with an open mind and try not to be judgmental just because I dont like them.

Miller had the worst showing of his life.. but he will rebound from that.

I feel that we will see Sexy get a KO against Shields and then Shields will be kicked out after his next loss

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 22, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, we all have the fighters we like to hate,and those we like pull for...

I use to not like Mahem, mostly because of his stupid entrance and antics like you said, but after i got past all that, i realized he is actually a talented fighter and has a lot to offer, and now his antics aren’t so annoying to me, and I just laugh it off because the guy is just having fun doing what he loves to do. I don’t know if Sexy will KO shields, but Ellenberger probably cracked that chin a little for him, so it’s definitely possible.

by KOaddict on Dec 22, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with all of that

And i hope you are right, because i’d like for them to keep Sexy around a bit longer and send Shields back to SF where he has more of a chance at success

by KOaddict on Dec 22, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Im not a Shields fan

But I dont see why people hold him in such a high regard

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 22, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

He's like Fitch, he finds a way to win

but people don’t seem to like his style

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by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I was never a fan of his (nor do i hate him, i'm neutral)

He doesn’t deserve the hype IMO, but to each there own. For the record, I also believe he lost that fight to Kamp, so to me he hasn’t done shit in the UFC but lose

by KOaddict on Dec 22, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

it was close enough to where I didn't really bitch about the decision

But I also felt that Kampmann got the better of him.

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by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with that for sure

I wasnt calling bullshit on the decision tho.. could have gone either way for sure

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 22, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I had it as a draw

So, really, imo, he has not won a single fight in the UFC

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 22, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't bitch if it was a draw

But Kamp did not LOSE that fight, although his game plan in the last round or so sucked, he still did enough IMO to win a split, but at worst, a draw.

by KOaddict on Dec 22, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

For sure

The judges fuck it up regularly, but that doesn’t make it right HAHA

by KOaddict on Dec 22, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

So true!

But I would hate it if people tried to tell me how to do my job

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 22, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

More ppl just need to get involved in MMA

I think former fighters should consider this if they are looking to stay involved in the sport somehow after they are done, or at least get guys who are on the amateur level involved, anybody who has been the cage themselves could have a better understanding and perspective then someone who has not IMO.

by KOaddict on Dec 22, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Sexy has no chance whatsoever, and to be honest with you he's been a huge overhyped failure

Send him back to Japan where he has more of a chance of success.

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

He has failed

But I think he was at the wrong weight the whole time. We will see soon enough.

Its like BJ.. he is a great fighter.. at the proper weight class. Horrible at the higher weights tho

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 22, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

So you make huge excuses for a failure who is 0-4 in the UFC

But the guy who beat overhyped Hendo is a bum. Be consistent, Enzo.

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Im not making excuses for the guy

That is just my opinion. If he cant cut it at this weight, in this fight alone, I say cut the guy. Im not a fan of his either

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 22, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I see him going on a tear now

Beating Akiyama (easily), then the next two or three schleps they give him until he fights a top guy again, probably the loser of one of the top contender fights like a Fitch or a Condit.

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

No problem

Shields beats Akiyama effortlessly

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

If Unambig wins your sig has to say

ODHGC is an incredibly handsome, intelligent, well read, man with a fierce rugged, grizzly adams side but also the sensitive Eric Roberts side, but not like crying all the time like a little bitch like Eric Roberts though.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Great sig.

"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)

by OJR on Dec 22, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

How does 2 weeks sound?

And then when the time comes, after the fight, we can decide what the sigs will be. I will double the length of time by betting you on the condit/diaz fight.

I got condit all day long

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 22, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok then

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait a sec...

I just realized this will only work if both of our fighters win…

If we each call one right then we can both have a messed up sig.. but if one of us wins on both fights.. we keep the sig for a month… sound good?

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 22, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

No, check it out

Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Jake and all...I have for years now...

But if Akiyama has a good cut, Jake isn’t getting him down

In my avatar pic-what i dine on for every day of the week ( i hit the one in green twice on Fridays!!)

I hate Chorongota

by Starr788 on Dec 22, 2011 1:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I think Akiyama's fucked

First cut to 170 and Jake Shields is his opponent? They should’ve matched him up with Dan Hardy for a loser leaves town match, time to get Hardy out of here.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Hardy vs Junie Browning

Loser retires in Phuket

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Jake Shields is the #1 lay n prayer, that's for sure.

Top 5 most boring fighters to watch p4p:
1. Jake "Mr. Snuggie" Shields
2. G "what's the Rush?" SP
3. Jon Fitch
4. Gray "lets cuddle?" Maynard
5. any wrestler w/ the same fight strategy as #1-4

by TheRassler on Dec 22, 2011 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

Nope, look at my list.

There are 2 people ahead of jon fitch.

Top 5 most boring fighters to watch p4p:
1. Jake "Mr. Snuggie" Shields
2. G "what's the Rush?" SP
3. Jon Fitch
4. Gray "lets cuddle?" Maynard
5. any wrestler w/ the same fight strategy as #1-4

by TheRassler on Dec 22, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

wishful thinking Jake

Fortune Favors the Bold
Renato 'Babalu' Sobral is the man, Brandon "The Truth' Vera is the only man who truely gets under my skin every time he speaks!!
...Smarter, Maybe...Better, We Hope So.....

by IT's Time! on Dec 22, 2011 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

Dude beats Hendo, loses to GSP and Ellenberger and he's a bum?

Meanwhile Hendo loses to Shields, beats Fedor, Shogun and Cavalcante and he’s a fucking hero?

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Heil Unambig!

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Benolvent dictatorship is the way to go for sure

But I don’t Hitler qualifies…

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

And people say I'm crazy...

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

You are crazy

based on your conspiratorial leftwing socialist tinfoil rants in the other thread

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

yea I know

reading up on facts and looking at evidence is nuts. Just believe whatever your elected officials bullshit you with.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

We got human rights problems in this country

You’re just too busy watching TV or listening to music to give a shit

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

You're too busy whining about not having as big a TV as the evil corporate overlords that you think you're a slave when in fact you've never had it so good

You should go spend some time in Afghanistan, get some appreciation for your privilege.

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Your illiterate ass should pick up a book sometime

And turn the TV off.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually don't watch TV

And I write for a living, chuckles.

Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

It doesn't show at all.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not inclined to write prose on an MMA site

Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

w/e you say

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

So long as I continued to get paid I'm not inclined to give a fuck what you think about my writing either, chuckles

Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude you probably don't write anything outside of these posts that I would ever read.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Obviously not, I'm Canadian and you're American

Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

well if I ever need to bulk order any toilet paper I'll ask you to send me your work

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

"you've never had it so good"

How the fuck would you know? You don’t know shit cause you don’t look into shit.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

You crack me up bro. You should go hang out with Alex Jones

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 22, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Alex is certainly more fucked up

Whack-job extraordinaire

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree w/ Jones on a lot of shit

Not everything, but his main point that the most powerful men on the planet are working together to merge us into a one world government I think is right on the money.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont disagree with you at all

I keep an eye on pretty much everything you talk about man. Its a crazy time we live in

enzo

by enzo-enormous on Dec 22, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

We're in a transitional phase, it's too bad some people are programmed so well by the system that they have absolutley no ability to think outside of

That programming.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Right. You're the genius. You're the perceptive and insightful person who has seen through the false, matrix-like charade that is our western society

Thankfully there are people like you and Neo who can crack the code and wake up we who are the sleeping saps.

Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Luckily there's plenty of people that think that way

And I was actually woke up by somebody else, and I’m still in the process of learning and there’s a lot I don’t know.

In fact out of both times we’ve had this debate I’ve seen ONE person agree with you. That’s a good sign imo, keep your ignorance to yourself.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not surprised

Most people are afflicted by socialistic malaise and self-destructive tendencies against the privileges and entitlements their grandparents bled to earn. It’s why your shithole country is losing ground every time a liberal is born.

Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

look if you actually had a side of this argument to present I'd listen but all I get from you is

“You’re wrong, cause I said so, no I don’t have to read anything, I don’t have to look at anything, I pull the truth out of thin air and you’re wrong.”

“P.S. you should be shot and killed.”

Yea, I really wanna be on your side when it comes to something as important as keeping liberty.

You’re dumbass is willingly giving up every right our ancestors fought to give us. You’re the traitor, not me, keep trying to spin it though.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not here to debate you, not only because it's obvious you have insufficient intellect, but because you're obviously too set in your ways and corrupted beliefs for it to be of any use anybody

At a certain point in a modern society, given that stupidity is no longer outlawed and imbeciles like yourself put out of your misery, to agreeably decide to refrain from discussing such matters in the future.

Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
Mania Money Pool Season 5: Sixth Place

by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

lol all you can do is insult and tell me how much I should die

You don’t have an argument to present, that’s why you don’t present one. You don’t know what you’re talking about, plain and simple.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

As I said, your opinion, such as it is and as worthless as I deem it to be, offers nothing I haven't already heard from similarly deranged Occupy Wall Street hippies and communists

I suggest we stick to MMA and leave the tinfoil shit to your mother’s basement.

Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
Mania Money Pool Season 5: Sixth Place

by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

So you’re purpose isn’t to debate or spread info or have any rational discourse, you just like to get on the internet, insult and then tell people they should die.

I think you’re the one in mommy’s basement.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Quit cutting yourself

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

And I'm amazed

You want ppl that don’t agree w/ what their government does dead. You advocate a dictatorship and you want certain topics to never be discussed.

You and Hitler have a lot in common.

You’ve gotta be a real life cartoon character cause I am having a hard time believing anyone is this stupid.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I have rational discourse with people who are similarly rational

You, sir, are a crackpot. One would profit as much by discussing world events with you as they would with the Taliban or one of Putin’s lackeys.

Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
Mania Money Pool Season 5: Sixth Place

by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

When you can't win an argument with logic you attack the person

And that’s all you do, it’s the oldest trick in the book. You don’t really have any information to present. You’re just in love with the abuser and your knee jerk reaction is to defend the abuser at all costs.

It’s like a chick that gets beat on by her boyfriend and she keeps going back. That’s what you remind me of.

Anyway, since this is and never will go anywhere, I’m done. Keep up the good work, spread that disinformation and make sure you stay ignorant!

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Dec 22, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

That's for Muslims in Gitmo, not America

Sig bets with enzo-enormous:
Diaz beats Condit on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Shields beats Akiyama on Feb. 26, 2 weeks
Mania Money Pool Season 5: Sixth Place

by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Excuse me?

I think you need to actually read the bill. It enables the US Military the ability to arrest US citizens in America, on the basis that they MAY commit a crime in the future.

Honestly, until you inform yourself on this bill, there is ZERO point in debating it.

Roger Huerta is one of a growing number of Zuffa-contracted fighter who feel that there is a disconnection between the company’s success and the way fighters are compensated. Huerta’s disillusionment with the UFC began when he did press tours for his employer in Miami, Houston, Los Angeles, and London and received a $50 per diem for his troubles.

ROFL!!!! "Fastest growing sport in the world" "The BIG Show"
Ahahahahaha

by dec3ptiKon_ on Dec 22, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

http://www.inquisitr.com/168657/indefinite-detention-bill-passes-senate-heads-for-obamas-signature/

Roger Huerta is one of a growing number of Zuffa-contracted fighter who feel that there is a disconnection between the company’s success and the way fighters are compensated. Huerta’s disillusionment with the UFC began when he did press tours for his employer in Miami, Houston, Los Angeles, and London and received a $50 per diem for his troubles.

ROFL!!!! "Fastest growing sport in the world" "The BIG Show"
Ahahahahaha

by dec3ptiKon_ on Dec 22, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t be confused by anyone claiming that the indefinite detention legislation does not apply to American citizens. It does. There is an exemption for American citizens from the mandatory detention requirement (section 1032 of the bill), but no exemption for American citizens from the authorization to use the military to indefinitely detain people without charge or trial (section 1031 of the bill). So, the result is that, under the bill, the military has the power to indefinitely imprison American citizens, but it does not have to use its power unless ordered to do so.

But you don’t have to believe us. Instead, read what one of the bill’s sponsors, Sen. Lindsey Graham said about it on the Senate floor: "1031, the statement of authority to detain, does apply to American citizens and it designates the world as the battlefield, including the homeland."

Roger Huerta is one of a growing number of Zuffa-contracted fighter who feel that there is a disconnection between the company’s success and the way fighters are compensated. Huerta’s disillusionment with the UFC began when he did press tours for his employer in Miami, Houston, Los Angeles, and London and received a $50 per diem for his troubles.

ROFL!!!! "Fastest growing sport in the world" "The BIG Show"
Ahahahahaha

by dec3ptiKon_ on Dec 22, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

That stuff is for terrorists, dude

Don’t be simple, Simon

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by unambig on Dec 22, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

dude.

That’s what they are selling it as. Now, somebody growing a few plants for medicinal reasons could be labelled a “terrorist” and be in for a complete shitstorm. Come on man, they just legalized locking people up without cause or trial.

Roger Huerta is one of a growing number of Zuffa-contracted fighter who feel that there is a disconnection between the company’s success and the way fighters are compensated. Huerta’s disillusionment with the UFC began when he did press tours for his employer in Miami, Houston, Los Angeles, and London and received a $50 per diem for his troubles.

ROFL!!!! "Fastest growing sport in the world" "The BIG Show"
Ahahahahaha

by dec3ptiKon_ on Dec 22, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!

GO GET SOME, DONALD CERRONAY!! - Greg Jackson

by djganesh on Dec 22, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Shields is the guy to beat Silva, stylistically

He is very Sonnen-Henderson-esque. The only difference is that Jake isn’t gonna get fucking choked out or subbed in any way. Great wrestling. Great BJJ. I too used to criticize his striking, but he did well in the GSP fight.

by makaveli158 on Dec 22, 2011 2:28 PM EST reply actions  

Jake is too much of a specialist

and although he’s a great guy on the ground, he’s not well rounded. His standup is seriously lacking. He needs to commit to a big change in his training to develop some striking or he will never rise to the top. With that said, he’s still a tough dude and will win more than he loses but the top guys are more dynamic.

by sudnvictory on Dec 22, 2011 9:10 PM EST reply actions  


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