Is 'Cyborg' Santos ready to transcend gender?
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 19, 2011 10:06 AM EST
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Strikeforce women's featherweight champion just buzz-sawed another 'elite' featherweight women's fighter in 16 seconds at Strikeforce: 'Melendez vs. Masvidal' this past Saturday (Dec.17).
The Chute Boxe product and wife of welterweight Evangelista 'Cyborg' Santos is 11-1 and is riding an 11 fight winning streak. She holds notable wins over Shayna Blazler, Gina Carano, Marloes Coenen, Jan Finney and Hiroko Yamanaka. She stopped all the aforementioned names by way of TKO or KO.
She is one of a kind.
MMAmania's own Sergio Hernandez wrote an article stating that it's a practical must for Santos to drop to 135 pounds is she wishes to continue fighting top fighters.Would anyone be willing to fight Santos even at 135 pounds knowing she maty be even faster at the lighter weight?
I'm about to cause a lot of flack but i think it's time for 'Cyborg' Santos compete against a male mixed martial artist but this will not happen under the Zuffa umbrella but would you give her a shot?.
At 26 years old ChritianeSantos is without a doubt one of the sports best fighters who can't find enough fights. She is 11-1 and has not lost since her professional debut. She has 9 wins by way of TKO and has been a proven draw when she faced 'theface of women's MMA' Gina Carano.
The attendance was 13,976 and the show averaged 576,00 viewers on Showtime and peaked at 856,000 viewers for the Carano-Cyborg main event. The fight even outpeaked the Kimbo Slice-Tank Abbott bout even though Slice has been one of the most watched MMA fighters ever.
The lack of fights has almost made Cyborg truly consider a World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) contract earlier this year and i wouldn't blame her if she took it. She would make a lot more money and would have a look that even the former bodybuilder Beth Phoenix (WWE wrestler) would be jealous of.
In general, women's sports has been made fun of or not seen on the same light as their male counterparts. In gym class or most specifically co-ed gym class you would see your female classmates not trying as hard or not being very good at the sport. The thing is, elite female athletes will shine regardless and those girls collected at the middle of the field are not athletes, their just in gym class because they have to.
It would be one thing to name a sport like tennis or golf where men faced women but to prove my point that in a physical sports where a women can play a man i will resort to hockey player and Canadian Olympian Hayley Wickenheiser.
In 2003, Wickenheiser joined a European men's hockey league team HC-Salamat in the Finnish Hockey Federation. In 23 games she posted 2 goals and 10 assists and was offered a tryout by NHL hall of famer Phil Esposito to play for the Cincinnati Cyclones. Sports Illustrated named Wickenheiser in it's 'top 25 toughest athlete's.
I do know that hockey and MMA are world apart but both are very physical sports and demand a lot of either a man or woman's body.
I have heard all the 'she's a dude' jokes but this girl doesn't fight like any other woman in her sport. I do not think she could beat UFC featherweight champion Jose Aldo or UFC bantamweight champion Dominick Cruz but i still think she could compete against some of the guys.
Who-couldn't really nail it done but maybe start her off against an amateur making his professional debut. This would be seen as a 'freakshow' by most i believe but it be a travesty not to see more of 'Cyborg' Santos. She is a great fighter and let's see how good she really is.
What if she won?
I feel that MMA is one of the best sports due to how little racism or discrimination effects the fan's opinion. I hardly ever here someone say a racist comment about a fighter while at the bar. Nobody wishes UFC light heavyweight champion Jon Jones lose due to being black.
I also feel that MMA fans are not sexiest towards the women and the only reason fighters like Ronda Rousey or Meisha Tate illicit comments about their looks is because they are attractive. They also use these looks to sell themselves and that's fine, UFC welterweight champion Georges St.Pierre chases in on his looks.
'Cyborg' Santos is ready for the challenge and it's time we truly see if we can get this kind of 'special attraction' bout sometime. I doubt it will but if tommorrow Strikeforce announces 'Cyborg Santos vs. (insert male fighter name here) I would tune in and i would be cheering for Santos.
It be a huge step for MMA to prove we can have the cats and dog's fight.
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cue the tired jokes about how she’s already a man and has a penis, har-har
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
It’s a shame
I love watching her dominance and this a huge chance for the sport to show why it is unlike any other in the world. MMA in itself is a freakshow, you have two men willingly for go the pleasures of eating bad, days off and want to train hardcore amounts for a long time only to be subjected to the dangers of flash knockouts, broken limbs.
I am dead serious when i say this..she is legit and could beat men.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 19, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry but i have to disagree big time.
Cyborg’s dominance is only indicative of the athletic level that women possess in MMA. Most of these girls pick up the sport not because they’ve been a serious athlete for most of their lives but because they just happened onto the sport. Thats why when you see girls with true athletic pedigree, they dont need any skill at all to savage even the most experienced girls. Which is why until more girls like sarah McMann or Randi Miller (who am not sure if she’s still an ammy) come to the sport and fight at the top level that we can declare cyborg the end all be all. I mean even with zero striking acumen, i highly doubt that those two would get outmuscled by Cyborg.
Also cyborg cant compete with men. That’s just ridiculous. Too much of a technical gap even if she can make up the strenght difference. This is the same girl who pulled gina into mount.
Although I spend countless hours researching, it has taken a ‘Cali Cock-Slap’ for me to come to the realization that Frank Mir is a top HW. If not for Cali ringing my bell, I might also never have never realized that Randy Couture is MMA’s greatest achievement. Having had this sense finally rammed into me, I can now move forward and strive to breakout of my eternal bridesmaid rut.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 19, 2011 11:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I can totally understand and i agree in manyw ays but i think it be a very cool thing to see.
No guy would atke the fight, no benefit. KO a girl or get KO’ed by a girl
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 19, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Also cyborg cant compete with men. That’s just ridiculous. Too much of a technical gap even if she can make up the strenght difference. This is the same girl who pulled gina into mount.
Are you serious? You don’t think she could walk into ANY local show and jump in the cage with some 2-3 scrub and slaughter him in a matter of minutes? You’re out of your freaking mind kid.
Read his post, he said he obviously realizes she can’t beat someone like Cruz, but he’s talking bout bottom tier fighters….just because someone has a penis doesn’t mean she can’t beat the shit out of them. I’m sure she could stomp you into the ground
sigs are gay
So the queen of women's MMA can compete with scrubs and keyboard warriors.
Oh wow, am extremely impressed then. I thought it was implied that being competitive meant that it was against other capable fighters. I doubt she can beat any 135lbs in the UFC, except for Danny Downes or jason reinhardt.
Although I spend countless hours researching, it has taken a ‘Cali Cock-Slap’ for me to come to the realization that Frank Mir is a top HW. If not for Cali ringing my bell, I might also never have never realized that Randy Couture is MMA’s greatest achievement. Having had this sense finally rammed into me, I can now move forward and strive to breakout of my eternal bridesmaid rut.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 19, 2011 2:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
those would be huge wins man
She should be one of the most talked about combat athletes!
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 19, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I would be thrilled to watch her beat some can on a dream nye show.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Dec 19, 2011 8:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I had no idea she was so young.
She is gonna have to figure out how to make the cut to 135 cause I don’t think Rousey wants any part of her.
It’s a real shame she can’t get fights, she is in her prime and it’s a waste. Any way big fan of hers now and really wish her the best.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 19, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
My first thought as well sadly
Cyborg could compete with males at her weight and she has trained with men throughout her career but it’s not something that will benefit the sport or her career in my opinion. Women fighting is frowned upon enough by the masses so just imagine the reaction to an intergender fight, it would never be sanctioned.
In a perfect world Cyborg would drop down to 135 and fight in a more competitive division, but she’s always had issues making weight so I expect her to end up stuck fighting outmatched opponents in a manufactured division (without Cyborg and Carano there is no female FW division).
She won’t go to WWE either unless she is happy having the commentators make the same tired man jokes all the way through her matches because she’s not as attractive as the models that WWE usually hires.
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by David W-S on Dec 19, 2011 11:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
This all day.
"We mortals are but shadows and dust..."
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Stout: Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez : Lombard
Lucia Rijker
She should have fought Lucia Rijker. Lucia was equally dominant in both boxing and kickboxing. Couldn’t find any female opponents and actually fought a male professional Muai Thai fighter. That would be a match. Unfortunately at 44, Lucia is aging. Still as strong as a mule, though:
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I want Toughill to shit or get off the pot.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 19, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Erin is fat pig who refuses to go on diet
It sucks because that fight would be awesome but she’s getting older and at this point I don’t really care for that fight
by ihatepressingf5 on Dec 19, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
I remember her from American Gladiators and couldn't believe she could make 145 but that was so long ago.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 19, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
No way she can fight with men.
would be like the best woman hockey player on the planet trying to play in the NHL, not happening. Ya shes real good but come on now! No one on the planet can compete with men playing sports at the highest level. Its not even a conversation, golf is a perfect example, you dont need to be in great shape or as physically strong as the next guy to be a great golfer, so you would think thats one game women can hang with the men in….not even close! Weve seen them try in golf, hockey etc. Women cannot compete with men in sports, Cyborg would get fucking demolished by any man in MMA.
Maybe but she could sure kick my ass.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 19, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
You say she can’t
I think she has proven herself worthy of the oppurtunity.
I’m not saying she could ever remotely replicate her success in competition against women but how do we know she couldn’t stop Pulver at this point (i feel really bad saying that as i know Jens on a cordgial level)
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 19, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Talk about kicking a man when he's down
Low blow there mate. Jens is one of the saddest declines I’ve seen in sport.
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by David W-S on Dec 19, 2011 12:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No way she can fight with men.
Are you a man? Can you kick her ass? FUCK NO….
Cyborg would get fucking demolished by any man in MMA.
You’re a scrub kid, she could walk into any local circuit of clowns with records of like 2-3 and jump into the cage and permanently disfigure all of them……you disagree?
You think some wack scrub on a local circuit somewhere in Alabama with a record of 2-3 is gonna wreck Cyborg? apparently so cause you said:
Women cannot compete with men in sports, Cyborg would get fucking demolished by any man in MMA.
You’re out of your damn skull you stupid scrub…
Like I said scrub, do you have a dick? Can you kick Cyborg’s ass? Fuck no, cause you’re a clown
sigs are gay
lol,
youre one of the least happy people on MMAMANIA lol! Is SCRUB the word you learned today LOL! Funny that you call me kid, judging by the immature, nasty, inhumane content of your posts I would guess Im 20 years older than you…….kid, lol! Your posts are all the same, hate filled nastiness.
I feel sorry for you man, you seem to have a real chip on your shoulder! Anyone (man) that knows anything about sports or competition knows women cant physically compete with men at the top level. Its not being an asshole its just the way it is, I dont make the rules. Yes she could could probably beat some clown in a bar down in Alabama, whatever dude, you missed the point just to be angry again lol!
I just figured it out, Hella is just a real ugly woman, I would be angry to :) your excused lol!
Problem with Cyborg
is that she is one in a billion. There is woman out there to give her a challenge, men isnt an option. If I were her I would go to the WWE and make a few million not to mention she will get super famous be all over TV.
"Is 'Cyborg' Santos ready for a male opponent?"
And you wonder why people don’t take you seriously… sigh
Is Jones ready to take on a fucking bear? Is Silva ready to take on a fucking robot?
Get real
by ihatepressingf5 on Dec 19, 2011 11:56 AM EST reply actions
Still it beats reading about Sonnen being compared to Ali
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by David W-S on Dec 19, 2011 12:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Id pick Jones by sub rd 2 against a bear
those long limbs…and he clearly will have a submission advantage over a bear…
But the bear doesn't have much of a neck
I can see how it would be very tricky to sink in the RNC. Then again, if you can kill a lion with it, there might be a space to kill a bear with it.
by ihatepressingf5 on Dec 19, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Nobody takes me serious?
I am posing a question not saying that i don’t have doubts and such about it. I don’t think it’ll happen but why down play it when we haven’t even seen it.
I don’t think she’d beat a top top 135er or 145er heck not even top 20 but a 0-30 fighter? maybe.
No reason to say rude shit ebcause you don’t agree.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 19, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
plus a beara nd robot to a male opponent and you are asking me to get real?
A bear that is 350-600 pounds versus a man who is 230 at MOST…..how do you think he’d stop the bear.A Robot made out of titananium and can be programmed? and i need to get real.
It’s men versus women, it’s a lot more fare and a lot more plausable.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 19, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
No, it isn't. It's not plausable and the mma community should NEVER, EVER ask for Cyborg vs a man.
no one is going to take the sport seriously if we ask for freak matches like that one. I understand Cyborg overmatches any opponent but if that’s the case, let’s ask her to move up in weight (there’s gotta be female judo specialists in that weight class willing to compete in mma).
Didn’t mean to offend you though but understand that this topic in any sport is heavily frowned upon.
by ihatepressingf5 on Dec 19, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Cyborg is stronger than a lot of male MMA fighters at 135
If she can make the cut, it’s not an unreasonable question. The main difference between men and women in terms of sports is strength.
I don't have anything nice to say
My lack of sense is only rivaled by the amount of sand in my vagina. Do not call me on my bullshit or I will call your mother.
Look, I know the idea is hard and somewhat crazy and i like doing these articles not for comments but i like raising questions that are not just ‘Sonnen said this’, ’Nick Diaz is made about this" or “Dana White this”.
I thought this would be an interesting article for a Monday.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 19, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
interesting topic
but, the timing is way off. Dana just signed a fox deal, he kept SF alive to help grow women’s mma, not turn it into a sideshow. I don’t know if those crazy japanese would put this kind of freakshow on….maybe on the rez in navajo nation in northern AZ or something. I dono. Also, I have to do it….you can take it.
I also feel that MMA fans are not sexiest towards the women and the only reason fighters like Ronda Rousey or Meisha Tate illicit comments about their looks is because they are attractive
Comments are made because we like their goodies. Is the sky also blue?
My lack of sense is only rivaled by the amount of sand in my vagina. Do not call me on my bullshit or I will call your mother.
I do love the Tate Jiggle.
But I actually do appreciate her as a competitor as well. Shit tell me with a straight face that the Belator 115 division isn’t exciting.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 19, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Rousey, Tate, Coenen, Carano, Santos are all great fighters at WMMA no doubt.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 19, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
She could certainly take on some men
But the question is, once she starts fighting men, where does it stop?
I mean, if she dropped to 135, I think she would wreck fighters like Caceres and Escovedo. There are some guys who would just not be a fair matchup because they’re built so strongly she wouldn’t be able to push her main advantage.
Uriah Faber would muscle her. Cruz would outsize and dance around her, and though this is completely unscientific and I don’t know that there’s a reasonable study to prove it, I would bet that men in general have better chins and would negate her KO finishing power.
It’s a tough question. It will never ever ever happen though, because I bet Dana would put the kibosh on that so fast it would make your head spin. A woman getting knocked out by a man is not the look MMA needs right now, and Dana is trying to move the sport away from freakshow matches.
Thank you
See i wasn’t trying to push the fight as being a legit idea of mine. I am a dreamer and this would be a fun fight to see. I’ve seen her against Tito and she was able to lift Tito off the ground. That’s just crazy strength and yes it was sparring but lifting Tito Ortiz by a 145 poound woman is still crazy.
I still believe she could be an amateur making their debut or a guy who’s on the outside. I just don’t want to look back five years and see how much of a talent was wasted due to little to no willing competitors.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 19, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
See i wasn’t trying to push the fight as being a legit idea of mine. I am a dreamer and this would be a fun fight to see.
Pick a side you wishy washy bastard!
My lack of sense is only rivaled by the amount of sand in my vagina. Do not call me on my bullshit or I will call your mother.
i want to see it, think she could..dunno if she’d be successful and might catch a win then get thrashed.
I wnat to see it for the odd chance she wins and i don’t wwant to see broads get knocked out
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 19, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
No normal man would take this fight, I'm sure there would be a few if they got payed but no man would feel gratified hitting a women.
Man vs Women in MMA …..never
I don't try to intimidate anybody before a fight. That's nonsense. I intimidate people by hitting them.
She sucks compared to most guys.
Oh and she has a penis.
by BNF on Dec 19, 2011 12:40 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Bottom line
I don’t even want to watch women hit women. Based on the popularity level of WMMA, I’m not alone.
I don’t mean to say women shouldn’t fight. I just take no pleasure in watching women beat the shit out of each other, never mind watch a man hit a woman in a sanctioned bout.
I hear what you’re saying, LSC. Cyborg is a beast and a genetic freak of nature……I just don’t ever want to live in a world where it’s ok for a guy to hit a girl.
Call me old fashioned. Or just old…..either way, not interested.
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by Scottidog on Dec 19, 2011 1:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
She swings a fist at me I may swing a fist at her.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 19, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the feedback Scotti and i agree…a part of me wants to have this ‘what if’ answer and another part fears how badly it could turn, ya know?
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Dec 19, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Here's the thing
If she wins, we all say….Wow, she’s a badass….picture her landing a stiff one two and dropping a guy like a sack of meat. Hooray, right?
But what if she DOESN’T win?
Picture her getting dropped and rolling over to escape GNP. The guy takes her back….and starts dropping bombs until she goes out. Then we have a guy with his hand raised, while 15,000 people cheer him on, as a woman lays unconscious and bleeding 10 feet away.
That’s ugly.
Bye bye mainstream. Hello freakshow :)
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by Scottidog on Dec 19, 2011 4:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Scotti - you need to find some old Rio Heroes fights then.
Watch a chick put a hilarious beatdown on a dude then decide if you like it or not. Dont judge before trying it lol.
Although I spend countless hours researching, it has taken a ‘Cali Cock-Slap’ for me to come to the realization that Frank Mir is a top HW. If not for Cali ringing my bell, I might also never have never realized that Randy Couture is MMA’s greatest achievement. Having had this sense finally rammed into me, I can now move forward and strive to breakout of my eternal bridesmaid rut.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 19, 2011 2:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ah, not trying to be a party pooper NNR
And I certainly don’t mean to judge.
It honestly makes me queasy watching women get hit in MMA.
They have every right to participate in the sport. I just personally don’t want to watch. I don’t mean to tak a moral high ground. It just ain’t for me, bro.
Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
George Carlin
by Scottidog on Dec 19, 2011 2:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
nah it's all good. I wasnt preachin or anythin
I just loved Rio Heroes because it’s the most bootleg and shady MMA promotion ever….i mean some of the shows seemed like hidden basements with half cages made of Chicken coop wiring, best stand n wangs, best stalling, best grappling, best everything, …….gotta love the sport!!!
Although I spend countless hours researching, it has taken a ‘Cali Cock-Slap’ for me to come to the realization that Frank Mir is a top HW. If not for Cali ringing my bell, I might also never have never realized that Randy Couture is MMA’s greatest achievement. Having had this sense finally rammed into me, I can now move forward and strive to breakout of my eternal bridesmaid rut.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 19, 2011 4:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
haha all I can picture
Is Brad Pitt fighting Gorgeous George in Snatch.
Will ye look at the size o’ thiis feller…..do y’ box?
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by Scottidog on Dec 19, 2011 4:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't care what anyone says.
Put her in the cage with anyone and shes going to have a chance.
I’d even say she’d be the favorite if she ever stepped in the cage with her husband.
"You want to know how to keep your man happy? Don't bitch. let us hang out with the guys and play video games, go bowling, play poker whatever the fuck we want to do once or twice a week, and you girls can do the same. Suck our dicks, fix our food. Just don't bitch. Just let us be guys and we will let women be women. " - Rampage Jackson.
Nope
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Dec 19, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Stop this madness!
Cyborg is a women and a mother! She just needs Gina carano back for a rematch!
NO, SHE IS NOT!
The last woman that tried to fight men was Lucia Rijkers. She destroyed all her female competition and then she tried to fight a dude. Got absolutely vaporized! Cyborg will be too slow and not strong enough for the male bantam- or featherweights and will get destroyed.
Let’s just view her as the best female fighter on the planet and thats it. You dont put a man that cant get touched against a bear!
I'd like to see it.
I do agree about people not wanting to see a guy beating the shit out of a women but the other thing you have to take into an account is societies view on looks. Through various social experiments it has been discovered that people in general are more willing to help out a good looking person than an ugly or average looking person. With Santo’s looks I don’t think it would be as bad a backlash as say Carano or Tate. Just to test yourself next time you watch a horror movie think about how you feel when a hot piece of ass gets killed then again when a plain Jane gets it. The other thing is that’s why they fight, to prove that they are the best. So it might end up being her beating the shit out of some dude.
"All hail the Flyers" Jim Jackson.
look guys she would lose to rousey…. if she dragged gina on her then what do you think is gonna happen when rhonda doesnt have to work to get top mount and a hold of an arm…. this is where strikeforce can shine…. do a tuf for women with a half decent background in combat sports… spend 3 weeks calling around. make your own competition…
No woman can compete with her at least in her weightclass or one that she will move to
Cyborg is just too dominate against her female opponents. what’s that other chick’s name Rhonda Rousy or something, she’ll end up like Cyborg’s victims.
mark my words if they meet up cyborg has only a punchers chance…. rousey just has to make sure she doesnt get caught…. i would say 8 out of 10 times cyorg ends up with an arm like minotaro.
it dont matter how tough or manly you are when your arm gets locked in.
i have a feeling by summer we will see this matchup.
yes...
oh wait, i skimmed over the title and read… “is cyborg santos…trans…gender?”
i better go read again…
my ape technique, put people down.
I hope santos v rousey goes down. rousey is the only chick with a chance to beat “the freak” with her sick judo skills rousey could do it
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by FarNorCal on Dec 20, 2011 6:53 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I think she should try dropping to 135
capture the title there, defend it a few times and by the time shes done that the featherweight division should have some new challenges hopefully…
That being said after seeing her destroy Yamanka like that i was thinking the same thing, i can definetly see her beating some of the lesser male fighters for sure
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