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Gilbert Melendez has done more than Ben Henderson, would smash Anthony Pettis

Photo of Gilbert Melendez by Dave Mandel/Sherdog.com via ESPN.com.

Coming off a unanimous decision victory over Jorge Masvidal last night (Dec.17, 2011) in San Diego, Calif., where he defended his Strikeforce lightweight title, Gilbert Melendez has now won six straight fights dating back to 2009.

Even though his most recent performance opposite "GameBred" proved to be tougher than Melendez may have wanted, "El Nino" not only climbed the ranks of the mixed martial arts (MMA) lightweight division, but also staked his claim as the new face of the Strikeforce promotion.

With Nick Diaz, Cung Le and Dan Henderson now fighting for Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC), Melendez now carries the San Jose-based promotion squarely on his shoulders for the foreseeable future.

At the moment there are no shortages of opponents for him under the Strikeforce banner with Caros Fodor and K.J. Noons earning impressive wins at last night's Strikeforce event, and in the process, tossing their names in the hat as possible next challengers for "El Nino's" title. Not to mention Gesias Cavalcante, another Strikeforce contender who could prove to be a tough test for Melendez.

However, that hasn't stopped the Cesar Gracie-trained fighter from talking about the rest of the top lightweight talent that reside over in the UFC.

Speaking to Fighting Famous TV, "El Nino" say's that he would smash challengers from the UFC and also says he loves Japan because the Japanese people really know who the true number one lightweight in the world really is.

Check it out:

Star-divide

"I don't feel like I shouldn't be in this position, I'm not crying about my position but I think I've done more than Ben Henderson. You know, these guys, all these guys were on The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) show you know? Like I was already fighting in PRIDE and ranked top three in the world but some people just don't understand that. I'm not trying to be a cry baby again, but I just know my history and I've been there. I've already hit these bumps in the road and come back. Some of these guys haven't hit that bump in the road where they have to reinvent themselves and I've already hit that and they're still going to hit that. I think Ben Henderson is someone who is going to be amazing, I think he is amazing and I actually think he is going to continue to be amazing and he is going to be a great champ. As for Pettis, I would welcome that challenge. I would like to fight that dude, bring him over I think I can smash him."

When asked about his upcoming trip to the "Land of the Rising Sun" to corner his training partner Jake Shields for his upcoming fight against Yoshihiro Akiyama at UFC 144 on Feb. 26, 2012 -- who just so happens to be headlined by two of the UFC's premiere lightweights, division champion Frankie Edgar and number one contender Ben Henderson -- "El Nino" says he loves Japan because fans there know who the true number one lightweight in the world really is in MMA today.

"I'm going to try to pump up MMA out there too. I think I'm a big deal in Japan for MMA. They think I'm the number one lightweight in the world out there, they definitely think I'm the number one lightweight in the world. Maybe it's different in the US, but they definitely think I'm the number one lightweight in the world."

Back to back victories over some of Japan's best lightweights in Shinya Aoki and Tatsuya Kawajiri may be the primary reason Melendez believes the Japanese people would consider him the greatest 155-pound fighter in the world.

Not lacking any confidence, Melendez truly feels he is the number one lightweight on the planet and would love nothing more than a chance to prove it it against some of the best the UFC has to offer.

Though a fight with Anthony Pettis or any lightweight on UFC's roster could prove to be entertaining and a good test for Melendez, don't expect any cross promotion fights for "El Nino" anytime soon, even with Zuffa owning both Strikeforce and the UFC. With Strikeforce renewing its contract with Showtime, it could be at least two more years before Melendez ever gets his chance to step up up against the UFC's best lightweights.

What do you say Maniacs, is Melendez the true number one lightweight in the world? Or will he always be second best as long as he carries the Strikeforce belt and not the UFC title?

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Wasn't exactly a brilliant performance yesterday

But i’d like to see him fight the winner of Bendo Frankie.

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Dec 18, 2011 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, his ego is getting ridiculous.

He’s never gonna be considered #1 unless he goes to the UFC. Until he does that he should shut up cause even his teammates Diaz and Shields gave up their SF belts to try and get the UFC belt. Why would anyone leave the UFC just to fight Gil? Maybe some1 like Jardine who’s on a losing streak and gets a title shot after a draw. That’s the SF way.

If boxing is a science then MMA is astrophysics.

by Hank_Mardukas on Dec 18, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah that call out was a bit lame at the end

It was just unsavory. Plus it’s not like his performance was all that for him to make such a claim.

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Dec 18, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I'm the best LHW in the world!


Have you seen my record?

If boxing is a science then MMA is astrophysics.

by Hank_Mardukas on Dec 18, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Winner!

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"but if there's anyone who wants to finish fights it's me." - GSP

by VeeisAnimated on Dec 18, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

bitch i got that flame

We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.

by magicmike on Dec 19, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Who is thissss

by johnnysmash on Dec 18, 2011 11:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

99% sure

thats jimmo

We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.

by magicmike on Dec 19, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

took ya a while lol

We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.

by magicmike on Dec 19, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you Channing

"Dutiful servant in the church of Jon Bones Jones. All mercy to his MMA holyness. To you heathens i give my favorite scripture : And as he fell the dragon, the world stood still and those who did not believe now trembled in his presence. The Book of Bones -16 : 1"

by wooly shambler on Dec 19, 2011 1:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Reaction to Gilbert thinking he's #1

If boxing is a science then MMA is astrophysics.

by Hank_Mardukas on Dec 19, 2011 6:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I doubt anybody who seriously follows the sport, thought this was

going to be an easy win. I am a huge Melendez fan, and think he can beat anybody in the UFC, I even expected this fight to be one of his toughest to date. It actually worried me more than him fighting most of fop fighters in the UFC, It is not always who a fighter has beaten that makes them a dangerous opponent, its the fight and skills they bring with them, and anybody who has seen Masvidal fight knows this. You make it sound like he was fighting Jens Pulver.

by Ade on Dec 19, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

@Hank_Mardukas, he'd LOVE to give up his belt to fight in the UFC ...

… Zuffa are the ones leaving him in Strikeforce until the end of his contract.

I think that’s why he’s stirring up the pot and talking so much … he wants to make it worth their while to send him into the UFC.

But I think the lightweight division in the UFC is so packed with talent that they can afford to keep Melendez in Strikeforce even if he is considered top 3 in the world to keep Strikeforce afloat.

by YossGold on Dec 19, 2011 4:34 AM EST up reply actions  

someone tell this asshole that nobody is gonna leave the best organization in the world to go to joke strikeforce to fight him

I mean cmon, he just got his face smashed in by an internet video street fighter. He would get destroyed by any top 15 ufc lightweight. Remember when everyone thought jake shields was good? Then he came to the ufc and got smashed by kampman (who got decision robbed) gsp, and ellenberger. Now he’s worthless just like how melendez will be soon enough

by i hate jake shields on Dec 18, 2011 10:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

he's being a businessman

You don’t get paid by insulting your own organization. Get over the callout, people!

by SnoopSteele on Dec 18, 2011 10:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Shields didn’t get smashed by GSP, that is ridiculous. Shields won TWO rounds in that fight and it was GSP crying during the fight about his eyes, his eyes!

"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)

by crizzy on Dec 19, 2011 7:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Melendez needs to shut up

Enough is enough. He prob would beat pettis but why call out pettis?

Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain

"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali

by Kalejohncox on Dec 18, 2011 9:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I would too

Thats not the point. Call out a top 5 lw

Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain

"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali

by Kalejohncox on Dec 18, 2011 10:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, well Gil should know how things work by now.

You don’t get to fight the UFC guys in SF. He should have left SF instead of resigning cause you can’t compare who Gil’s gone through and who Frankie lately. Jump ship or shut up about it. Gil is becoming the most annoying man in MMA imo with this wanting to be #1 shit. Then stays in SF!

If boxing is a science then MMA is astrophysics.

by Hank_Mardukas on Dec 18, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

He's trying to use a short cut to be the best.

He seems to think that simply not losing makes you number one.In reality you need to beat the best and not lose. After every fight he thinks calling himself the best is enough to get it done but that’s just not enough.

tkotom TKO'd me in the first round.

by Cyclonejoker on Dec 18, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

His “if I say it enough it will become true” way of thinking is pretty pathetic. Undefeated and winning streaks don’t mean shit if you’re not fighting top guys. If that’s the case then Ryan Jimmo should be top 5 P4P.

If boxing is a science then MMA is astrophysics.

by Hank_Mardukas on Dec 18, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

He's right

He has done more

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Dec 18, 2011 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

This is a matter of what have you done for me lately.

I personally think Bendo beating Jim Miller was more accomplished than anybody Gil has fought in years. Even Aoki who I felt was a fabricated #2 at that point of his career.

If boxing is a science then MMA is astrophysics.

by Hank_Mardukas on Dec 18, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

yup i agree. bendo has been more impressive over better names than gilbert

love to watch wand, florian, lauzon, gsp, cain, machida, dos anjos
bones jones will be the champ for a VERY long time
damn that was fun watching tito choke out bader
fedor man its time to hang up the gloves

by Burlzilla129 on Dec 18, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I tend to agree. Bendo's had some tough fights but Melendez has had really tough fights. It's very close.

Plus if you follow the whole “linear champ” theory, Melendez is the linear champ.

"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,

I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."

by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Dec 19, 2011 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

lineal i think you mean? but i get you

and yeah true

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Dec 19, 2011 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

How many times Is he gunna say they think he number one in Japan

Jeez

Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain

"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali

by Kalejohncox on Dec 18, 2011 9:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

They also think Big Nog vs Bob Sapp was a high level match up.

Even though it was a great fight.

tkotom TKO'd me in the first round.

by Cyclonejoker on Dec 18, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you see the way he pile drived Nog into the canvas?

That would have KO’d most men. Nog isn’t exactly a small dude either.

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Dec 18, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Shit looked painful.

But Nog is the Brazilian god of tougness so it was no big deal to him.

tkotom TKO'd me in the first round.

by Cyclonejoker on Dec 18, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

i remember reading somewhere that he got flashed

and woke up when Bob punched him

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Dec 18, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

lol love that you kept the sig btw

you’re a funny guy!

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Dec 18, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

To be honest I don't remeber the fight frame for frame due t not seeing it in forever, but I wouldn't be surprised.

And no wonder your name was so familiar, you’re the guy in my sig ha.

tkotom TKO'd me in the first round.

by Cyclonejoker on Dec 18, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

lmao

and yeah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doJPc2rsO10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zns-gZ6KpgA&feature=related

BOBAAA SAPPAAAA lol

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Dec 18, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah frankie would destroy gil

And im pretty sure the japanese know this as well as anyone. They think godzilla can beat up king kong

by dragonassault on Dec 18, 2011 11:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Godzilla could easily take King Kong

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Dec 19, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Dec 19, 2011 3:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Kong already beat his ass once..

Or was it a draw, cant remember..

by dragonassault on Dec 19, 2011 5:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

ape vs dinosaur

dinosaur takes it

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Dec 19, 2011 5:58 AM EST up reply actions  

He's in that gang will those other gangbangers that like to gang attack people.

"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,

I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."

by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Dec 19, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

someone needs to shut the guy the fuck up

Soon as my flow starts, I compose art like the ghost of Mozart
Even though they all say that they're real, I know that most aren't
Boy you think you're clever don't you, girl you think you're so smart
Come with me to another side of the world... so cold and so dark

by HitokiriX on Dec 18, 2011 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

Joke!!!

Gil sux he will smash all UFC challengers just like shields did Stay in the minors and shut the hell up you’re not the best did u watch the fight from last night? Shitty

Machida drinks pee pee

"This is the THIRD time that The Pride has left me broken and bleeding. When will I realize that I cannot best him?"

2 week sig and pic bet with Kalejohncox Condit over Diaz

by TheDragon on Dec 18, 2011 9:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I don't think he sucks. He's great.

But he’s not the number one for sure, I don’t even think he’s number 2 or 3.

tkotom TKO'd me in the first round.

by Cyclonejoker on Dec 18, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Havent u learned?

most of ur opinions are wrong

Pro Sig record
10-5
1 Month sig bet with 10th Degree Whitebelt that DJ does NOT win the FLW tournament

by The Pride on Dec 18, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Who has he fought worth a sh*t?

He won a split decision over Guida in ‘06. Other than that a bunch of Japanese fighters, and we all know how good they’ve been doing over here.

by capt doug on Dec 18, 2011 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

Kawajiri. Aoki. Thompson. Masvidal.

There may have been another in between I missed.

"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,

I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."

by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Dec 19, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I would love to know why Zuffa kept Strikeforce around. It seems illogical.

by Dingo. on Dec 18, 2011 9:49 PM EST reply actions  

give it time

the answer will come out soon enough

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Dec 18, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Because the UFC couldnt take in all the fighters that they wanted and so at the very least they would have lost good to great prospects to a company like Bellator.

by bigdmmafan on Dec 18, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they can afford to lose the majority of that roster to other leagues. They are just as tied up by their Strikeforce obligations as they would be by fighting in Bellator. Only 10 fighters in Strikeforce even deserve to go to the UFC, and depending on their weight they could fight guys like The Mexicutioner, or Thiago Tavares for a spot on the roster.

by Dingo. on Dec 18, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

It's that Cesar Gracie attitude.

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Dec 18, 2011 9:49 PM EST reply actions  

+1

Jason Miller is a retard with straight hair and curly teeth.Hes a couple of dolly mixtures short of a quarter and spends his time swinging of a tyre attached to a rope! I should have listened to the MMA royalty on here,especially Jay,ANS and ViolentMike who kept reminding me that Mikes wrestling was the best at 185 and 205 and that if Greg Jackson,Randy Couture,Blackhouse,ATT or team quest ever needed any tips on game planning Wolfsalir is just a phone call away

by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Dec 19, 2011 12:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

+1

Jason Miller is a retard with straight hair and curly teeth.Hes a couple of dolly mixtures short of a quarter and spends his time swinging of a tyre attached to a rope! I should have listened to the MMA royalty on here,especially Jay,ANS and ViolentMike who kept reminding me that Mikes wrestling was the best at 185 and 205 and that if Greg Jackson,Randy Couture,Blackhouse,ATT or team quest ever needed any tips on game planning Wolfsalir is just a phone call away

by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Dec 19, 2011 12:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

+1

"Dutiful servant in the church of Jon Bones Jones. All mercy to his MMA holyness. To you heathens i give my favorite scripture : And as he fell the dragon, the world stood still and those who did not believe now trembled in his presence. The Book of Bones -16 : 1"

by wooly shambler on Dec 19, 2011 1:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

+1

"Dutiful servant in the church of Jon Bones Jones. All mercy to his MMA holyness. To you heathens i give my favorite scripture : And as he fell the dragon, the world stood still and those who did not believe now trembled in his presence. The Book of Bones -16 : 1"

by wooly shambler on Dec 19, 2011 1:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

lol

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Dec 19, 2011 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Dec 19, 2011 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Hes right

hopefully we will find out soon either way

Pro Sig record
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1 Month sig bet with 10th Degree Whitebelt that DJ does NOT win the FLW tournament

by The Pride on Dec 18, 2011 9:51 PM EST reply actions  

I don't agree with him.

I think he’s going to continue and fight where it’s safe and he won’t lose because he’s not fighting guys who can beat him.

tkotom TKO'd me in the first round.

by Cyclonejoker on Dec 18, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

He wants to fight the best guys

its up to Dana if he does. I think he beats everyone except Edgar, hopefully we get to find out

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1 Month sig bet with 10th Degree Whitebelt that DJ does NOT win the FLW tournament

by The Pride on Dec 18, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

it's not up to dana to bring people to come over to SF to fight him

gil had chances to go to the ufc but he wanted to stay in SF, hence why he kept resigning

Soon as my flow starts, I compose art like the ghost of Mozart
Even though they all say that they're real, I know that most aren't
Boy you think you're clever don't you, girl you think you're so smart
Come with me to another side of the world... so cold and so dark

by HitokiriX on Dec 18, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't know why Dana gets blamed for everything.

Dana could make him a great deal, but it’s silly to act like it’s not Gilbert’s choice to fight the best.

tkotom TKO'd me in the first round.

by Cyclonejoker on Dec 18, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Well Dana could bring him over like he talked about and like he has done with so many other fighters.

by bigdmmafan on Dec 18, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

gil showed last night he's not interested in that

Soon as my flow starts, I compose art like the ghost of Mozart
Even though they all say that they're real, I know that most aren't
Boy you think you're clever don't you, girl you think you're so smart
Come with me to another side of the world... so cold and so dark

by HitokiriX on Dec 18, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

He doesnt?

Then who does. He didnt make the choice with Diaz, Overeem, and others?

by bigdmmafan on Dec 18, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

He doesn't make them automatically be in the UFC, he can push for it and try but ultimately it's up to the fighter.

He wanted Fedor badly and he couldn’t get it because Fedor didn’t want to come. Those fighters you mention wanted to fight in the UFC so they signed an agreement, not a contract extension.

tkotom TKO'd me in the first round.

by Cyclonejoker on Dec 18, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Bullshit.

Because Dana gave them a UFC contract. Diaz signed a SF contract extension the same time as Gilbert pretty much but Dana said Fuck your SF contract I want you in the UFC.

Werdum,Overeem. Cung Le, etc… all these guys had SF contracts but Dana made it possible for them to come over. Why cant he for Melendez?

by bigdmmafan on Dec 18, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Because right now he doesnt!!! Melendez has sat here for the last half a year and talked about how he wants to come over. Dana White says we want to bring him over. All of a sudden Zuffa reups with Showtime who says were not gonna reup to see you continue to poach fighters and so Dana tells all SF fighters they have to stay in SF except the HW’s.

Lets say Cerrone beats Nate Diaz and Dana calls and offers Melendez that fight in April, Melendez isnt gonna say no.

by bigdmmafan on Dec 18, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

He had his chance and didn't take it, UFc doesn't need him to have the best guy in the world, he needs UFC to prove he's the best.

LW is not hurting for more talent so he can keep running his mouth and be happy as the number 4+ guy in the world.

tkotom TKO'd me in the first round.

by Cyclonejoker on Dec 18, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok and he would go over to the UFC if Dana brought him over like he did a bunch of other SF fighters but until that happens or his contract expires he has to fight for Strikeforce.

Your blaming him because the UFC is choosing to keep him in Strikeforce and to me that’s ridiculous.

You think the UFC needed Cung Le? How about Werdum? Nope but Dana wanted those fighters so he made it happen. Now because they reup the Showtime deal and Showtime doesnt want to be a “feeder league” Dana wont bring him over and now everybody acts like it’s Melendez’s fault for still being in SF.

by bigdmmafan on Dec 18, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Those guys are brought in to shallow divisions to thicken up just a little bid.

You can complain and blame Dana all you want but in the end it doesn’t matter. This guy is not number one and he won’t be unless he fights the top guys in the UFC, or unless they come to Strikeforce which won’t happen.

tkotom TKO'd me in the first round.

by Cyclonejoker on Dec 18, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not even arguing that he is number 1!

This whole conversation was a waste of time because you guys are thinking he can come the UFC anytime he wants and is just choosing not to. That isnt the case but I’m done trying to prove that.

LW could definitly use him. The log jam is gone and after Edgar/Bendo square off it looks like the next contender will either be Cerrone/Diaz or Pettis/Lauzon. I’d like to see Melendez is the mix at least.

by bigdmmafan on Dec 18, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I never said he could come anytime he wants. I said he had the perfect chance to but didn't.

I wanna see him there too because he’s amazing as a fighter and I love watching, I’m just fed up with him acting like he’s the number one ranked LW in the world when he hasn’t beaten anyone in the top 5. Aoki wouldn’t be ranked if he fought in America on average unless he just fought cans.

tkotom TKO'd me in the first round.

by Cyclonejoker on Dec 18, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

So bring him over then.

Fuck this “he had his opprutunity” shit. If Dana White offers him a UFC fight he’s not turning it down and so bring him over.

By not bringing him over all it leads to is these stupid arguments about how he would do in the UFC. I’d rather see the fights then argue about what if or who would win online.

Bring him in and have him fight Guida(again), the Miller/Guillard winner, the Pettis/Lauzon winner, whoever…. If he’s not as good as some people think he’ll lose and they can say I told you so and if he wins he can fight whoever the LW champ is and put this fucking argument to bed already.

by bigdmmafan on Dec 18, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Gil likely didn’t come over cuz all his buddies were hanging out in SF… then all of a sudden Dana needs some WW’s so Shields and Diaz skip town. UFC doesn’t need LW’s, so Gil gets fucked.

by pdibby on Dec 18, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not saying this is definitely true, but perhaps they renewed the Strikeforce contract due to still being investigated for anti trust after the Strikeforce takeover. I remember reading quite a few months back that the UFC was still keeping their anti trust lawyers contracted but there was no specific reason given as to why.

Those sorts of investigations are kept really quiet… it would explain why they renewed the contract when on the surface it doesn’t seem to be viable.

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by The Ruiner on Dec 19, 2011 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

The case is still going on as far as I know. I for one enjoy Strikeforce events, so I’m glad it’s sticking around, but I think you’re right…they are only keeping it around to help their anti-competition case.

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Dec 19, 2011 3:13 AM EST up reply actions  

A win over Edgar is not that difficult to believe imo

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by tkotom on Dec 18, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Edgar is far above everyone else in the division imo

i dont see anyone beating him

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by The Pride on Dec 18, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Melendez is a very tough match-up for Frankie and vice versa.

"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,

I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."

by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Dec 19, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Melendez is the BADDEST LW on the planet.

Of course he’s #1 in the world. Of course he’s the baddest LW on planet Earth.

Who else could take on a “nobody” like Masvidal and get their FACE SMASHED IN while cruising to a boring decision victory? Who else could get their face smashed by a disciple of KIMBO SLICE street fighting?

Only the baddest man on the planet could do that, LOL.

Oh…..and now he’s looking at title defenses against the likes of KJ NOONS (a borderline CAN who recently got smashed by a “nobody” like Masvidal).

Strikeforce is NOT considered better than the UFC precisely because it sets up too many “title fights” where their champion takes on either JOURNEYMAN or outright CANS.

Melendez seems happy to earn decisions over “journeyman” while declaring himself the best on the planet. I’m sure morons like Danago will fuel his ego by agreeing with him.

…But in reality the CONSENSUS rankings are correct for a reason, because they are a CONSENSUS. That’s how most societies are run, by consensus. That’s how supreme court decisions are handed down, by consensus. People can disagree but CONSENSUS is how things are run in most societies.

And the “consensus” is that Gilbert ain’t the baddest LW on the planet.

Fact is he’d probably get smashed by the likes of Chandler or Alvarez, or by Clay Guida or Melvin. You can only live off the glory of an Aoki win for so long, LOL

by Who_Has_Crushed_More_Cans_Than_Fedor on Dec 18, 2011 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

I think lots of people are blowing it out of proportion.

He’s fought some good fighters and he doesn’t suck or fight nobodies. My only problem with him is claiming he’s the best LW in the world every single time they talk to him. He’s up there for sure, but he can’t be the best by fighting lesser competition. He needs to beat the guys ranked above him or else he’ll just stay in the same stop until he loses.

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by Cyclonejoker on Dec 18, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Spot* my bad.

And to add to it, it’s okay to believe you’re the best, every fighter should think that about themselves, but he’s talking so much about this that it’s frustrating fans up to the point that they don’t want to hear it anymore.

tkotom TKO'd me in the first round.

by Cyclonejoker on Dec 18, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Cesar Gracie is probably telling him to do it. I mean it worked with Nick Diaz, the only difference is Nick Diaz actually had offers to go box and had permission to go box so the UFC had to make something happen.

by bigdmmafan on Dec 18, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Zuffa needs him a lot

He’s the face of their latest investment

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by Kalejohncox on Dec 18, 2011 10:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Zuffa is not fine without him if he left for Bellator SF would be done

They have already lost Hendo(lhw champ) Shields(mw champ) Diaz WW(champ) Uberone (HW champ) and now Gil (lw champ) safe to say SF would get even less views then it does now. The only thing they got is Cyborg and shes pretty much done because her divison is empty.

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by Khaos_Warrior on Dec 19, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

thats not to say he would leave for Bellator because i doubt he would

So if he did SF =dead once Cormier fights Barnett there are almost no fights worth watching SF for anymore.

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by Khaos_Warrior on Dec 19, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

has everyone forgotten

zuffa doesn’t own strikeforce. forza does. and if you think they are the same company, try suing forza for something that zuffa did wrong.

by tha dude on Dec 19, 2011 7:14 AM EST up reply actions  

lol. ok. shell corporation or not, it is owned by the UFC.

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by crizzy on Dec 19, 2011 7:53 AM EST up reply actions  

ROFL. The UFC HAS Gilbert. They own SF.

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by crizzy on Dec 19, 2011 7:51 AM EST up reply actions  

First off, any one who says they KNOW Melendez would get smashed

or Melendez would dominate the UFC are both wrong. Because you don’t know until he actually gets in their, all you can do is offer an opinion and try not sounding like a douche when you do it. Sorry, its just annoying when people say they KNOW someone is going to get “smashed”

I think people need to understand that Jorge Masvidal is a very talented fighter, who has the potential to do very well in the UFC. His striking is better than the majority of the top 25 lightweights on the planet. He’s very disciplined with his boxing, and keeps his hands up high and tight and makes it very difficult for anyone to land clean shots on him. So just because Gilbert couldn’t stop him, that doesn’t make Gilbert any less of a fighter. I think the mere fact that Gilbert was able to beat him at his own game says alot about how far gilbert has come. Any time Jorge attempted to put together a combination, Gilbert was able to counter very nicely. I would say Gilbert would do very well against a guy like Frankie, and I’d actually pick him to win. Frankie is great, but he out boxed a slow heavy handed wrestler, Gray Maynards striking is average, heavy hands doesn’t mean you have great striking. I think Gilbert would do well, great striking, great wrestling, great conditioning, and great ground game. He’s definitely top 3.

by dickscorpio on Dec 18, 2011 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

Frankie out boxed Bj Penn though. And BJ Penn was ranked far above Gil and Masvidal.

Gilbert is a great fighter, but he runs his mouth so often when he has so much to prove, it’s tiring to say the least.

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by Cyclonejoker on Dec 18, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh don't get me wrong

Frankie is number 1 in the world and rightfully so, but that doesn’t mean Gilbert can’t beat him, he has the potential to do so. And so does Ben Henderson. Their is actually a pretty good possibility that instead of talking about how Gil would do against Frankie, in a few months we’ll may be talking about Melendez vs. Henderson.

by dickscorpio on Dec 18, 2011 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

Gil is getting a little out of control with the shit talking and grandstanding after a good (not great) performance. I would understand him getting more of an ego if he went out there and destroyed Masvidal, but c’mon. I almost hope he goes to the UFC and gets handled like Shields.

by sadowolf on Dec 18, 2011 11:59 PM EST reply actions  

You mean how GSP handled shields by what ever he wanted?

O yeah that didn’t happen.

Maybe how Diaz was got owned by BJ?
O yeah that also didn’t happen.

Gratz sadowolf pretty sure you are now qualified to join the fucktard club along with to many people to name on this site.

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by Khaos_Warrior on Dec 19, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Dude, you've just been promoted to the President of the fucktard club.

Shields was the “master” of Strikeforce yet he’s only gone 1-2 in the UFC so far, and his ONLY win was a controversial SPLIT decision to Kampmann. Oh yeah, and he got FINISHED by a journeyman like ELLENBERGER, LOL.

As for Diaz not getting “owned” by BJ……nobody knowledgeable in MMA expected BJ to “own” Diaz my friend. Where’d you get that fucked up assumption? From Snowden or Danago or some other dumb mutha fucker?

Diaz stands no chance against GSP though, assuming he gets by Condit.

GSP vs Diaz is nothing but HYPE since GSP will take him down at will and keep him down, winning via decision. Diaz has no wrestling defense and it’s funny how his dick riders forget this point. His BJJ skills are good enough to prevent a submission but not good enough to sweep GSP or get top control. If he can stand back up he’ll be taken back down.

GSP vs Diaz is a fight that’s already over before it even begins. I can’t believe how many Diaz fans actually believe he even has a 1% chance against GSP, since his chances are LESS than 0% (in the negative numbers).

We’ll see how Overeem does against Brock in 2 weeks, but I doubt we’ll see a victory there for the former Strikeforce champ. After all, how did Overeem get the Strikeforce belt? He beat a JOURNEYMAN called Paul Buentello (a man who couldn’t hack mid level UFC fighters before being cut). How did Overeeem defend his title? He defended once against Brett Rogers, a former tire salesman who’s lost 4 of his last 5 fights. Watching Overeem get out struck by Werdum wasn’t very confidence inspiring either, neither was watching him suck oxygen like a dying man during his post fight interview.

I’m not sold on Overeem. Brock will suck the life out of that out-of-shape quitter.

Strikeforce is a good organization but it’s just a feeder league my friend, the true sharks will always swim in the waters of the UFC. Capiche? Fucktard.

by Who_Has_Crushed_More_Cans_Than_Fedor on Dec 19, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Dude who the fuck are you ?

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by wooly shambler on Dec 19, 2011 1:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

LOL i bet its the same retard posting with a different account to try and seem less retarded and probably rec himself as well

Diaz has zero chance?? Kind of like Matt Serra fight? Retards to many on this site to count.

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by Khaos_Warrior on Dec 19, 2011 3:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Your hate showeth forth, lol. So you weren’t impressed by Diaz? You are tough to please. I guess horse stomping BJ Penn didn’t prove anything to you. Diaz has less than zero chance of winning… That is a wise statement.

Ok put your money where your mouth is. I want 10,000 to one odds. I will bet a dollar to your 10,000. I am robbing myself by your definition of the odds but I am willing to take the chance.

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by crizzy on Dec 19, 2011 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Where did I say anything about Diaz? You got Cesar's balls in your mouth or what?

And yes, Shields looked shitty against Kampmann, shitty against GSP, and got destroyed by Ellenberger; so yeah, overall he got handled. He’s not on anyone’s radar anymore. I like how you only used the GSP fight in your comment, seeing as how that’s probably the fight he looked the least shitty in.

Then again, why am I even dignifying your idiotic retort with a response of my own? Clearly your sig explains everything I need to know about you.

by sadowolf on Dec 19, 2011 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe the interviewer brought up Pettis?

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by Starr788 on Dec 19, 2011 12:02 AM EST reply actions  

anyone?

Anyone else not overly impressed with Melendez? He should stay in Strikeforce because there wont be a UFC title in his future.

by Brotherwolf on Dec 19, 2011 12:28 AM EST reply actions  

No matter how el nino tries to sell it

Right now, Frankie is #1

He beat BJ Penn twice, had answers to everything BJ gave him.

He Drew with maynard, then finished him.

He rightfully earned his spot as #1 in the planet.

El nino really has to get out of strikeforce is he doesnt want people comparing him to benson and other top contenders and prove everyone wrong.

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by elmojo on Dec 19, 2011 1:20 AM EST reply actions  

Gil does need to head to the UFC, unless they are going to send some fighters over OR

Send JZ to the ufc he would smash plenty of the ‘top’ guys(imo)there and that would easily move Gil into the #1 spot.(that of course is unlikely to happen as well)

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by Khaos_Warrior on Dec 19, 2011 3:32 AM EST up reply actions  

oh wow Mr. Gilbert, Oh Wow.

I think Henderson would smash him, it would be ridiculous how bad he’d lose against him. Pettis, that’s an interesting fight. But seriously, WHO has Melendez beaten? Bunch of Japanese fighter. Masvidal and Thomson were the only real challenges. I wouldn’t rank him top 5 LW let alone top 3.

by OTAKUSAN on Dec 19, 2011 1:37 AM EST reply actions  

ZUFFA zombies are out in force. Get the F back, Dana has rattled you lot up hasn’t he.

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by danago on Dec 19, 2011 5:42 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

amen.

if dana says it, then it HAS to be true, doesn’t it? every single fighter in strikeforce absolutely sucks. they suck right up until zuffa decides they want them in the UFC. then they all suck, except for that one guy that zuffa wants. strikeforce guys aren’t good enough to compete in the UFC, right jake? right nick? hendo? HW division? it’s strange how the top guys in strikeforce aren’t good enough for the UFC and the bottom guys in the UFC are too good for strikeforce. as if melendez couldn’t handle jonathan fucking brookins.

by tha dude on Dec 19, 2011 7:23 AM EST up reply actions  

It is the haters. They are all the same and I find it hilarious. They can’t help themselves. They argue because the fighter would lose to the BEST fighter in the UFC, that they have no place in the UFC. Tough to argue against that, lol.

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by crizzy on Dec 19, 2011 8:01 AM EST up reply actions  

This dude is doing my fucking head in.

His ego’s getting waaaay to big.

He’ll have every right to start making these claims when he actually beats someone in the Top 10, but until then… STFU!

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by ArlovsKang on Dec 19, 2011 7:19 AM EST reply actions  

Joke!!!

Gil sux he will smash all UFC challengers just like shields did Stay in the minors and shut the hell up you’re not the best did u watch the fight from last night? Shitty

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by TheDragon on Dec 19, 2011 7:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

What does Shields have to do with Gilbert? I is confused, confounded and confabulated.

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by crizzy on Dec 19, 2011 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

put him against Maynard

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by rooseveltdunn on Dec 19, 2011 8:23 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Gilbert would get

his shi# pushed in by Bendo and a handful of other LW’s i nthe UFC. STFU Gilbert. Fight in the UFC and prove your top 5-10. Eddie Alvarez thought he was #1 too and he just got choked out by Michael Chandler. I guess Michael Chandler is now top 5 talent with that kind of reasoning. Sounds like the Diaz brothers are in his head.

by Gurthee on Dec 19, 2011 10:37 AM EST reply actions  

I would love to see Melendez vs Pettis

I think Pettis would smash Melendez. I’m not sold on him at all! Melendez has looked great, but the best LWs in Strikeforce would get cut after 2 fights in the UFC. Who did he beat apart from Guida years ago? Aoki? Kawajiri? PFFF, Gilbert says he doesnt want to be a cry baby, but me thinks he cries a lot about his position.

by TheRealest on Dec 19, 2011 5:18 PM EST reply actions  


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