Strikeforce results: On the brink of stardom, Gilbert Melendez puts in a pedestrian effort
Before we get started, will someone pick up that ball? You know, the one Gilbert Melendez dropped last night?
If Dana White -- and Melendez himself considering his broad, sweeping post-fight challenge -- is to be believed, the Strikeforce lightweight champion is staying put and will likely serve as the new face of the promotion. Melendez is, after all, ranked as a top five 155-pounder and can serve as the anchor for a company looking to avoid being written off as a second-rate league.
If that is in fact the plan, someone in the Zuffa chain of command is going to get a stern talking to on Monday morning because it certainly didn't seem like "El Niño" was privy to it.
Whether Melendez is staying or leaving, last night's main event was extremely important for his career and he turned in a rather uninspired effort. He got the job done, defeating Jorge Masvidal via unanimous decision, however where was the seamless mixing of striking and grappling fans saw in his rematch with Josh Thomson? Where was the brutal ground and pound that took Tatsuya Kawajiri out?
Where was the Melendez that was supposed to take the UFC by storm?
Strikeforce is hurting for star power. It has already lost Alistair Overeem, whose defection to the UFC -- combined with an overall shallow talent pool sport-wide -- gave Zuffa all the reason it needed to cut the weight division from Strikeforce's ranks.
Also gone is Nick Diaz, the former welterweight champion. Here is a man any combat sports company -- be it mixed martial arts (MMA), boxing or pro wrestling -- could build its promotion around. Even Dan Henderson has returned to the Octagon after winning three out of four fights inside the Strikeforce cage. Already well-known thanks to his stint as a coach on The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) and his subsequent decapitation of Michael Bisping, "Hendo" brought that name recognition to San Jose with him but absconded back to Las Vegas with it just as quickly.
The void that the departure of those three men has created is prime to be filled by any number of Strikeforce's stars. New middleweight champion Luke Rockhold has youth and 12 pounds of gold helping him along that path while contender Tim Kennedy can play up his military background to gain more traction with fans.
But no fighter is better suited to become THE guy in Strikeforce than Melendez. Going into last night's bout against Jorge Masvidal, "El Niño" was already a two-time champion with two defenses to his name. An impressive win over "Gamebred" would have sealed the deal for Melendez in one of two ways.
Either he makes the jump to the UFC and puts his top five ranking to the test against lightweights like Ben Henderson, Gray Maynard, and champ Frankie Edgar or he sticks around in Strikeforce and uses his status as a top 155-pounder to help legitimize the rest of the roster while continuing to fatten his bank account.
Despite winning a rather one-sided decision, he was still taken to the limit -- and busted up -- by a fighter who barely registers as a top 25 lightweight. I don't know if that ranking correctly gauges Masvidal's talent; no one does. It's impossible for anyone to get a proper read on his skill level and compare it to the top fighters at 155 pounds as he's been fighting mid-tier talent so far.
In this situation, two lines of thinking arise but only one is given any serious thought. Either Masvidal is for real and last night -- despite losing -- would be looked back on as his coming out party or Melendez -- who couldn't finish off the guy who got upside down choked in Bellator -- just isn't that good.
I'm sure you can figure out which point of view prevails. As unfair as it may be -- to both Melendez and Masvidal alike -- a lot of fans are going to look at last night's performance and decide the Strikeforce champ isn't on par with the top flight of the Octagon.
Wins are important in the fight game; the most important part but perception comes in a close second. "El Niño" had the power to control public opinion with his performance. Friday night, Melendez was seen as possibly being the uncrowned number one lightweight in the world. He simply needed his chance to prove it. Sunday morning, he's the champion of a second-rate promotion who talks bigger than he bites.
Which is true?
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Melendez is still a beast
I think masvidal needs more credit. He’s a real tough dude surprised there was basically no ground game in that fight for Melendez. But still don’t think gilbert would beat Frankie or bendo
by ToeLock6 on Dec 18, 2011 3:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I think it is a bit unfair to call melendez's performance pedestrian...
With the fight being contested almost exclusively on the feet, I think Gil had a very good showing. He controlled the pace throughout the fight, put together some really nice combinations, forced Masvidal away from his counter-striking style, and came away with a clear UD.
Masvidal also deserves some credit. Here is a talented guy with very good hands, who just obliterated KJ Noons (who by the way took Nick Diaz all 5 rounds and kept it competitive).
Gilbert is clearly a top 5 LW and Masvidal is clearly a talented guy who is a tough out for anybody at 155.
I think Gil would be competitive against any of the top UFC LW’s. Whether he is the best in world can only be determined by setting up the fights. A nice 1st test would be the winner of Cerrone/Diaz.
’’They've done studies you know... 60% of the Time, it works every Time...’’ – Brian Fantana
Gil's never going to fight either Diaz brother because they've trained together for years
But him against Cerrone would be an awesome fight.
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Agreed, and I fully expect Cerrone to beat Nate.
’’They've done studies you know... 60% of the Time, it works every Time...’’ – Brian Fantana
The author is clearly trolling, as he does seem to do time to time. Serg is either trolling, or incompetent at judging talent.
I get the whole being provocative and contrarian for the sakes of web traffic...
But anybody that thinks gilbert’s performance was pedestrian is foolish.
I got some more headlines that are sure to garner comments from mma maniacs:
Cyborg’s Efforts were Pedestrian
Masvidal was Robbed
Edgar is too Scared of Melendez
Lol. Yea, I guess people see it worked for Snowden, they might as well try. But you lose your respect in the process. Any regular sensible person thinks Snowden is a troll piece of shit. But you gotta do what you gotta do. Serg don’t lose your street cred homie! You seilling out!
Not selling...
Out. Just calling it like I see it.
I’m a huge Melendez fan and he could have made a huge statement on Saturday. He fought smart, no lie, but he didn’t make the splash I was hoping he would.
by Sergio Hernandez on Dec 19, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Melendez beats Miller, Guillard, Lauzon, Pettis, Tibau, Sherk & Siver
Loses to Edgar, Maynard, Cerrone & Bendo
I buried Banago.
A. Silva
I think Nate will derail the Cerrone hype train on Friday, otherwise I agree
"Why would I blow up the Chick-Fil-A it's fucking delicious"
by jakescissorhands on Dec 18, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
whats diaz doing to cerrone on friday then?
putting poison in his dinner? :P
Slappin da Bass mon.
by Rampagelangford on Dec 18, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Probably..then the Friday after that he is kicking his ass
"Why would I blow up the Chick-Fil-A it's fucking delicious"
by jakescissorhands on Dec 18, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
pretty sure its a saturday my friend :P
unless hes gonna try giving him a beating at the weigh ins
Slappin da Bass mon.
by Rampagelangford on Dec 18, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Since when do people start think Nate diaz all good?
tkotom TKO'd me in the first round.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 18, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Nate's always been good
I actually had him winning the Guida and Maynard fights and plus he submitted Melvin seconds after being taken down. His only bad performances were against Joe Daddy and his WW losses against Kim and Rory, both of whom are far bigger and stronger than him. Gomi’s done but Nate showcased all of his skills in that fight and is going to push Cerrone to the limit.
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Eh, so fars he's been a gatekeeper.
tkotom TKO'd me in the first round.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 18, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
I'm watching this fight live in Vegas
And I think I’m looking forward to Diaz/Cerrone more so than Lesner/Overeem.
Diaz and Cerrone are both good. I think Cerrone will beat him in the striking game, though… And Nate won’t be able to take him down. I’m expecting Cerrone by UD… perhaps even KO.
He has tremendous potential and clearly the genetics to be a champion
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by Rampagelangford on Dec 18, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
There's a phrase that is rarely heard in these threads.
+1 for humility
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He is a Diaz..lol..it is on Fri because Saturday is New Years eve
"Why would I blow up the Chick-Fil-A it's fucking delicious"
by jakescissorhands on Dec 18, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
I agree somewhat but I think Melendez would be a difficult matchup for Edgar and would have a hard time with Miller.
Jim Miller not Cole. It’s all about styles,of course you never know until they go at it in that cage.
by kentmurr410 on Dec 18, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
That's an awful harsh headline
I thought he put on a beautiful striking display. Nonstop for 5 rounds, and beat a guy many thought had a clear striking advantage.
He looked good, as a matter of fact he looked a lot like frankie can look in a fight, great striking, great gas tank, no finish
i didn't think it was that bad.
Masvidal seemed like a pretty tough dude to me. and Gil out struck him, when he was apparently going to need to hold him down and grind it out to win. but then again who am i? i’m just some guy who likes to watch fights. not an opinion maker with global reach.
Good point,even Melendez said Mazvidal was under rated before the fight.
I do think if Melendez wants to be in the UFC or considered the best at 155 he must take more chances and show a bit more,and has in the past. I think it was a closer fight than it seemed,a lot of shots where landing on the arms of Mazvidal.
by kentmurr410 on Dec 18, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
With all due respect, that article is clearly based on one person's oppinion and not facts!
Melendez fought brilliantly against a very dangerous guy and easily won every round. Masvidal’s last fight garnered much praise from the masses and he looked great. Melendez didn’t allow Masvidal to run his game on him. He just kept swinging at Masvidal the whole fight and Jorge was never able to implement anything due to being overwhelmed by a superior fighter. I think more highly of Gilbert today, than I did 2 days ago.
Man, I need a new sig!
by Danas A Crossdresser on Dec 18, 2011 3:58 PM EST reply actions
Masvidal's a tough opponent
He destroyed KJ and was unlucky to lose to Daley after moving up to WW. He’s well rounded and it’s no surprise that Gil didn’t blow right through him. Jorge deserves a lot more credit than just being the guy who Imada submitted at Bellator in what was actually a big upset.
As for Gil he was never going to be at his best, he’s been inactive for a while because of how dire the LW division in SF is. He needed this fight to get rid of the rust and to get some momentum back before taking on the elite LWs in the UFC. Winning a dominant decision against a dangerous opponent coming off the biggest win of his career is a good result. I doubt that he has any intentions staying at SF unless Zuffa start to bring over some quality LWs to challenge him because Eddie aside he’s beaten every top LW outside of the UFC, including the top Japanese fighters.
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What do u got for me cyclone??
I’m not gonna chase u down so u better reply to this post if u want my sig..
Wrestling is not an art of fighting, it's the opposite. It is a way to NOT fight
by Nick Diaz's Mean Mug 209 on Dec 18, 2011 4:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Ok perfect.
What was our bet about again? Once I remember I’ll think of a sig to fit the bet.
tkotom TKO'd me in the first round.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 18, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
We never came Ronan agreement
One week sig an pic since you never replied to me about the terms
Wrestling is not an art of fighting, it's the opposite. It is a way to NOT fight
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Yes the terms are fine.
tkotom TKO'd me in the first round.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 18, 2011 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
It's not as though we expected the finish
If Paul Daley can’t put Masvidal out in a win, I’m pretty sure most lightweights aren’t going to be up to that task. Melendez solidly outboxed him. It’s not a signature win, but it wasn’t bad. He did look a little silly calling people out to come fight him in “[his] hexagon,” but it is what it is. He maintained.
The problem comes from the fact that there’s nobody left for him to fight. Melendez has been calling out top competition from the safety of a mediocre performance, and now he’s trapped into that contract and won’t have anyone to prove his bravado. Who’s he supposed to fight next? Caros Fodor? Guy has a great resume and all with the fast KO over Wilcox, but nobody knows who he is because he was on the prelims. Besides, Fodor is a prospect, which is pretty much all Strikeforce has for Melendez at this point. Prospects and people of dubious quality who aren’t going to do much to maintain Melendez’s status as a top 5 (Masvidal, Noons, Thompson… hell he probably can’t even get Aoki anymore at this point).
Melendez is going to have to make his way out of Strikeforce or I foresee him slowly dipping in the rankings.
This writter is a hater
It wasn’t gilberts best performance but he still won very decisively. Masvidal has a good chin that is underrated. This post just doesn’t make sense. Hope Melendez gets better competition maybe Gleison Tibau or Melvin Guillard if he gets past Miller.
Sorry for the hater comment
My title sounded very hateful, I should have perhaps phrased it like Coolkale because it is your opinion.
Couldn't disagree with you more, Sergio ( as usual)
He dominated a talented fighter for 5 rounds at his own game. He didn’t look bad because he didn’t get a finish. If finishes were so important there would be some different UFC champions
Danago should be banned from mmamania
Agree Coolkale
He beat him at his own game, even Masvidal said he should have tried something else besides stand up. I do love finishes and Gilbert does deliver them, just before this he Koed Kawajiri, before that he has finished Ishida and Damm, but lets be realistic, it can’t happen all the time. As you said if it were based on finishes GSP wouldn’t be champ.
Are you hinting about that less than heterosexual caucasian gentleman who lives north of the US border?
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