Frank Mir breaks Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira's arm at UFC 140 and revels in the trauma
by Thomas Myers on Dec 11, 2011 12:00 PM EST
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Frank Mir is a fine mixed martial artsist: Talented, dangerous and decorated.
However, he's remarkably aloof, especially when it comes to his wicked, bone-breaking exploits inside the Octagon.
Mir snapped the humerus of Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira like a twig last night at UFC 140, torquing a kimura until it spiraled the Brazilian's lower right arm into smithereens. Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) President Dana White also indicated that "Big Nog" sustained additional damage to his shoulder, which will likely keep him on the sidelines indefinitely ... if not forever.
And Mir barely offered an ounce of regret or concern. On the contrary, he half-heartedly acknowledged the bad break in his post-fight speech and then went on to grin and giggle throughout the UFC 140 post-fight press conference.
Mir won the rematch that Nogueira demanded. He became not only the first man to finish the legendary champion via strikes, but then he went ahead and one-upped that accomplishment with a fight-ending submission, which was once again a first in his illustrious career.
Make no mistake, Mir should be proud of what he's done, but he shouldn't bask in the glow of career-threatening fractured limbs.
I don't think anyone expected or expects an apology from Mir.
Nogueira is a highly-trained jiu-jitsu practitoner, a black belt who -- in addition to Mir -- is regarded as one of the very best submission fighters in the sport. He's well aware of what happens when pride and adrenaline override the mind's natural instinct to cry "uncle."
Bones break, injuries happen.
Mir is well aware of this painful reality, too:
"When I locked up Nogueira [with a kimura], I had a strong inclination that he was not going to tap. So, I took a deep breath and you guys saw what happened.... I think it was a dislocated elbow of fracture of the lower humerus .... I think that was pretty reminiscent of the old days, you know? Tim Sylvia. That's not the first time I've caused a fracture in the Octagon and in practice. As far as how it feels, I may get in trouble if I describe it too much ... might think I'm disturbed [laughs]."
Disturbing seems like an understatement.
Mir did everything right last night during the fight at the Air Canada Center in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, but his deviant and seemingly sadistic penchant for wanting to cause serious bodily harm to his opponents is alarming.
He very well could have ended the career of Nogueira last night. I sustained an eerily similar fracture (not from a kimura) more than a decade ago, which took a seven-inch titanium plate, nine screws and nine months of rehabilitation to repair. Even still, the injury still causes me major problems ... and I write, not fight, for a living.
Nogueira has a long recovery road ahead of him. He's hurt bad. And Frank Mir is probably still grinning.
That's not only disturbing, it's disgusting.
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He did
say he hopes Nogeira is OK right after the fight, to Rogan
stupid article, don't worry about what strangers are 'basking' in go outside
by talkfight on Dec 11, 2011 12:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thomas and company - Are you guys fuckin serious...?
was it not Nog who said he would break Mirs bones at the end of the countdown show!?? ofcourse he is going to be happy about it… someone who is rated as the top BJJ in the division claiming they gonna break your arm…and you go and do it to them… hes allowed to look smug after that shit..plus its not like he kept goin after the ref stopped it.. u may not like Mir but he did nothing wrong of a mixed martial artist – END OF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PWyOrw6rNg
- The reason you gotta respect Rampage, if not love him!
by Randy for Couture on Dec 11, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
fuckin scumbag this is whats coming
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
by scott1 on Dec 11, 2011 12:06 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
fuck frank meh the most overrated hw ever
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
by scott1 on Dec 11, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
nah that would be big nog. mir owned him and he is a middling ufc hw.
by Conan the Barbarian on Dec 11, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
mir beat a 110 yr old twice nog what else has he done?
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
by scott1 on Dec 11, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
At least he leaves it in the octagon instead of being angry behind that screen of yours.
Who are you again?
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 11, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Two time hw champ, that's what.
Chael sonnen is a cheating douchebag.
by MMA Boss on Dec 11, 2011 12:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
look abioe lol
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
above lol
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Abioe is an awesome word.
Wait that’s not a word.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 11, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Besides being a 2-time UFC HW champ, you mean?
At least I am better than kevjack at making picks. I am satisfied with that.
He tap'd Brock.
Learn JiuJitsu.
Semper Fi'
I used to be an MMA blogger like you.....but then I took an arrow to the knee.
Don't be trolls both are great HW's
As far as th comment goes Frank has to be pleased and if NOG’s not going to tap Mir should be proud of doing his job….Mir’s not going to slack off if your not going to tap and he’s not going to feel bad about it after.
I don't try to intimidate anybody before a fight. That's nonsense. I intimidate people by hitting them.
by Puck Head on Dec 11, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
For sure
It’s not like he pulled a Palhares and cranked after the stoppage.
What’s next? Apologing for giving a guy a concussion?
All Nog had to do was tap.
That's like making fun of a maniac because his brain isn't completely right, because he isn't in the norm.
Alice Cooper
by Scottidog on Dec 11, 2011 12:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Might be Fedor.
Still love watching Fedor fight but his biggest wins were Nog and Cro Cop and both got destroyed by Mir.
TheDragon is the greatest of all time, i was foolish to bet against him, NEVER again will i make that mistake
by Armando Baez on Dec 11, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
to be fair
different eras…the nog and cro cop that mir beat were not nearly the same that fedor beat
We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.
Yeah Mir is in the more evolved era
I don't try to intimidate anybody before a fight. That's nonsense. I intimidate people by hitting them.
i dont mean that
i mean that nog and cro cop are shells of what they used to be now…fedor fought the best of nog and cro cop, frank did not
We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.
NOG's skills and strength are as goos as ever, his chin is longer the chin of his former self
Don’t be mistaken NOG has made a name from taking many beating and pulling off a sub later in the fight. Skill wise and striking wise NOG is better than ever but he does not have his trademark chin.
I don't try to intimidate anybody before a fight. That's nonsense. I intimidate people by hitting them.
True. Then again it wasn't his chin that Mir cracked this time.
by naturalshadow on Dec 11, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly and thats why this fight is so impressive
Barnett and Fedor couldn’t sub NOG but Mir could…….You can hate Mir but don’t be a WWE fan and judge there talent based on if you like them or not. This was impressive!
I don't try to intimidate anybody before a fight. That's nonsense. I intimidate people by hitting them.
I agree.
I do think he could have been a bit more respectful after the fight, but you can’t argue with the results.
by naturalshadow on Dec 11, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
He's proud, NOG would be too if did the same to Mir
Mir hopes NOG recovers but from any JJ fighter tapping NOG is one thing but tapping NOG like this is beyond any JJ fighters wilest dreams.
I don't try to intimidate anybody before a fight. That's nonsense. I intimidate people by hitting them.
Nog is definitely a shell of his former self, no WWE comment needed
He’s more of a plodder and much less resilient. He looked slower and older much more before his surgeries (1st Mir fight included) and that’s the reason that people joke about the 110 year old Nogueira.
Impressive win by Frank regardless. Much more impressive this time but comparing it to prime Nogueira is silly.
Sig Bet 3-2
Assunciao beats Yagin (Rolandando)
Cain loses to JDS (DavidWS)
Le loses to Wand (DavidWS)
Bisping beats Miller (DavidWS)
Lil Nog beats Ortiz (Cruz Jackson)
Not true go watch his old fights son
He has fought much the same as he always has and this is one of his problems as he is very predictable. But speed wise he is looking as good as ever but has never been fast. Resilient? He use to take beating yes but his JJ and grappling along with him being in sshape as well as strong as ever this is the best NOG athletically. Fighters now won’t get as tired at punching NOG in the face as many of them did then.
I don't try to intimidate anybody before a fight. That's nonsense. I intimidate people by hitting them.
He does have a point though.
I think it is a valid point to say that maybe the myth of the Pride fighters being the best in mma was just that.
by naturalshadow on Dec 11, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
they were very good in my pointless opinion.
But the game has passed them by, and most of the PRIDE fighters wins are against random Japanese guys.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 11, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Japanese MMA is starting to become more like North American MMA,
Big weight cuts, solid game plans, preserving their career by not getting into wars every fight, conditioning and wrestling etc.
You both make good points but if you think it’s the same Nogueira tooling Couture that it was in Pride that’s your call. Most of these fighters are very battle worn and not as evolved in areas needed to survive in North American MMA.
Hendo is a bit of an anomaly but he has the wrestling base to fall back on and a titanium cranium … guess we won’t use him as an example. Mir has changed himself for the better as a fighter, evolved striking, muscle size and wrestling, can’t say the same for people like Nogueira or Fedor.
Sig Bet 3-2
Assunciao beats Yagin (Rolandando)
Cain loses to JDS (DavidWS)
Le loses to Wand (DavidWS)
Bisping beats Miller (DavidWS)
Lil Nog beats Ortiz (Cruz Jackson)
Hendo's chin is also still like a rock
Some of the hits he has taken lately would put many out and a attribute you can’t train for.
I don't try to intimidate anybody before a fight. That's nonsense. I intimidate people by hitting them.
It's a vital asset. He's an anomaly.
I like to hate on trt but the truth is I don’t know how much he takes and I won’t use it to discredit him even though I think it is at least a minor factor in his career longevity.
Dan is a freak himself with that jaw and power – end of.
Sig Bet 3-2
Assunciao beats Yagin (Rolandando)
Cain loses to JDS (DavidWS)
Le loses to Wand (DavidWS)
Bisping beats Miller (DavidWS)
Lil Nog beats Ortiz (Cruz Jackson)
WRONG!
I have to insert this anytime anyone says someone is the most overrated ever. Reem is by far WAAAAAAAAAAY more overrated, not even close.
IF YOU THINK REEM SHOULD BE RATED ANY HIGHER THAN AROUND THE #5 HEAVYWEIGHT (AND THAT IS STRETCHING IT) THEN YOU ARE A FLIPPIN MORON, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
by Edgecrusher71 on Dec 12, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
hah, i wish
but thats not coming…brocks gonna beat reem and then fight JDS
We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.
Someones a little sad
:( Cheer up buttercup
That’s what happens when you don’t tap
Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain
"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali
by Kalejohncox on Dec 11, 2011 12:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Gotta love Mir. That was a great submission.
I bet Chael Sonnen has a thing or two to say about Nogs blackbelt.
TheDragon is the greatest of all time, i was foolish to bet against him, NEVER again will i make that mistake
It was a bad night for nog black belts. Both big nog and machida getting submitted Chael might be right. J/k
by constant on Dec 11, 2011 12:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
BREAKING NEWS: Blackhouse released a statement saying Nog's arm broke because his village in Brazil didn't get it's shipment of Vitamen D Milk!
This weakened Nog’s bones. He is demanding a rematch!!!
by Conan the Barbarian on Dec 11, 2011 12:12 PM EST reply actions
I see what you did there.
+1
TheDragon is the greatest of all time, i was foolish to bet against him, NEVER again will i make that mistake
by Armando Baez on Dec 11, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Nah that wasn’t funny.
Bobby Southworth
by danago on Dec 11, 2011 12:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Tap Or Else
Big Nog knows what happens when you dont tap to that hold. Mir should have let it go so he did not hurt Nog??? I dont think so
Nog’s pride caused the break not Mir.
by Demra on Dec 11, 2011 12:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yep
+1
If you don’t like it don’t watch the sport
Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain
"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali
by Kalejohncox on Dec 11, 2011 12:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He has no reason to apologize
If nog didn’t want his arm broke he should of tapped. Nog is a black belt and knows the risks of trying to fight through a submission that is locked in like that. I think Mir did everything right with that. If they don’t tap twist it till they do. If they wait till it breaks it’s their fault for not tapping. I hate seeing that happen to anybody but that’s the game.
by constant on Dec 11, 2011 12:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Yes sir
Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain
"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali
by Kalejohncox on Dec 11, 2011 12:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yep no reason to apologize
But he appeared to be a little ‘too okay’ (read cocky ) with the snap . Any ways part of game & nothing out of the books .. feeling bad for Nog .. hope he is not out INDEFINITELY …
Mir doesn't need to apologize, nog should have tapped.
Whoever thinks he needs to apologize needs to wash their vagina.
Chael sonnen is a cheating douchebag.
by MMA Boss on Dec 11, 2011 12:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Not sure who said that. Wasn't me.
I don’t think anyone expected or expects an apology from Mir.
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by Thomas Myers on Dec 11, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
It seems like you kind of implied that he won't give one because who he is.
As opposed to him not having to.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 11, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
his attitude is somewhat irrelevant
as he would’ve released the hold had nog tapped.
“He very well could have ended the career of Nogueira last night.”
correction: nog’s pride very well could have ended the career of nogueira last night.
my ape technique, put people down.
Mir at the press conference stated he was not going to wait for Brock vs Reem winner to face JDS
and want another fight instead of waiting and suggested Cain?
I don't try to intimidate anybody before a fight. That's nonsense. I intimidate people by hitting them.
Why not?
I think Mir-Cain would be a good matchup and appropriate for where they both are right now.
This was completely Nog's fault. Should have finished him with strikes instead of letting his ego get in the way.
Oh well, feed this bum to Cain next,
Archbishop / President of the church of Jon Bones Jones.
Uncrowned king of the Mania pool
Supporting Big Nog for life and Late takedowns FTW
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Dec 11, 2011 12:26 PM EST reply actions
MMA is a violent sport
and if u dont tap u deserve to have ur arm broken. Nog knew the consequences, he wanted a warriors death. Mir has every right to be happy, just like the Korean Zombie is happy with his 7 second KO
Pro Sig record
8-5
Sig bet with Thunderdownunder on Mir/Nog. MIR
Agreed
He was rocking Mir standing, then inexplicably went for a guillotine which Mir easily reversed into the armbar.
Bonehead move by the vet.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Dec 11, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Horrible article...
Mir’s behavior is “disturbing”??? Wtf are you talking about? This is MMA not ballet. People can have their own personalities and enjoy their victories. Really stupid article imo.
Yes MMAmania is known for some bias articles, but these guys are better in their sleep then anyone at Bloody Elbow is on their best day.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 11, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, Thomas Myers needs to step down or grow a set
Your locked in a cage to fight till someone wins. Christ I wonder about people sometimes…
Kind of agree.
Not sure why all the hate for Mir. Nog would have NEVER tapped to Mir. NEVER!
I DONT know why anyone is surprised. MIR was ALWAYS a piece of Shit
when cantwell broke that guys arm, he dcame out and apologized for it
please explain.
how is mir a piece of shit? Because he didn’t say “Sorry”? I’m sure you haven’t said sorry when someone else has taught you should have.
I love you guys
Those GIFs were great, and nobody on MANIA hates Mir more than me, but I agree with those of you who put it this way, Nog should’ve tapped. He didn’t, so he got his arm broken, big deal and I’m sure he isn’t even like “Frank Mir is a dick for enjoying it”, This is fighting, these guys train to hurt eachother and if you can’t handle that or want to call it “Disgusting” I think you guys are watching the wrong sport. If Josh Barnett is fighting to rip his opponents head off why should Frank Mir or any fighter approach it any differently? And besides Big Nog has the best doctors Brazil can provide so I’m sure they’ll be soaking that thing in chicken’s blood and blowing smoke on it in no time :D
Its not a sport
When a fighter takes a sick pleasure seriously injuring his opponent with no sign of remorse. No humility, no class, psychopathic, egotistical, narsacistic, just sick, disgusting and depraved. What goes around comes around!
He said he hopes Nog is ok though.
He seemed proud of the sub, but he’s not getting off to the broken arm or anything well I hope not.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 11, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
You ma'am
must be Bob Arum’s mistress. Shut your ignorant mouth and go back to writing for Cosmo. The educated and experienced people affiliated with this sport have no interest in your bitterness.
If ur not interested why reply?
Im not bitter it was just my opinion. Sorry u have a problem with that.
If you obviously know nothign about this SPORT, why would you reply?
Or an even more valid question, if you are so uneducated on this topic, why are you even on this website?
OK Bob Arum
Learn JiuJitsu.
Semper Fi'
I used to be an MMA blogger like you.....but then I took an arrow to the knee.
Great post!
U saId what i was thinking. What goes around comes around! F frank mir
Mir did nothing wrong
Big Nog shit all over Mir’s last win over him saying he was sick and hurt but he got in the cage and lost so if anyone should be pissed it should be Mir. Tap or snap
by biggant on Dec 11, 2011 12:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
BREAKING BONES IS FUN
Sig Bet 3-2
Assunciao beats Yagin (Rolandando)
Cain loses to JDS (DavidWS)
Le loses to Wand (DavidWS)
Bisping beats Miller (DavidWS)
Lil Nog beats Ortiz (Cruz Jackson)
Whatever. Frank can say whatever he wants
If anything nogiera is the idiot because he was to stubborn to tap. Tap or snap. Frank has every reason to be happy about it
by Hellrazer on Dec 11, 2011 1:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
What a horrible article! Nog knew the consequences of not tapping. The writer of this article should be banned from this site.
by jym on Dec 11, 2011 1:12 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
He's one of managers.
That would be one humble guy if he banned himself from this site for a bad article.
by Cyclonejoker on Dec 11, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
lmao
Sig Bet 3-2
Assunciao beats Yagin (Rolandando)
Cain loses to JDS (DavidWS)
Le loses to Wand (DavidWS)
Bisping beats Miller (DavidWS)
Lil Nog beats Ortiz (Cruz Jackson)
U said whatever coz u know I am right
Yes nog was stubborn and shud av tapped and i dont mind fighters enjoying their victories. But u think people can go around saying whatever they want…maybe they can but they will get whats coming to them. To all those who say this is a shit article, i feel sorry for u.
Btw, the writer is the editor or mmamania stoopid.
Not exactly 'reveling'
I think Mir summed it up better in the post-fight interview with Rogan: “When you’re our size, and you’re as dangerous as we are, things happen. You can get caught. It takes nothing away from Nogueira.”
"Make no mistake, Mir should be proud of what he's done, but he shouldn't bask in the glow of career-threatening fractured limbs."
don’t blame Mir for breaking Nog’s arm. it’s Nog’s fault for not tapping earlier and this would’ve been avoided. but whatever, guess his stupid pride of not tapping got in the way.
Nogueira should have tapped if he had a chance and as far as we're aware he did.
Not saying Frank did this or has to live up to my standard, but if I had one locked i’d give somebody the chance to tap before thinking of breaking it. Don’t know this for sure but I guess this is more appropriate for somebody like Palhares or on occasion Aoki.
Sig Bet 3-2
Assunciao beats Yagin (Rolandando)
Cain loses to JDS (DavidWS)
Le loses to Wand (DavidWS)
Bisping beats Miller (DavidWS)
Lil Nog beats Ortiz (Cruz Jackson)
When there is so much on the line you don't take chance
GSP vs Hardy is a prime example why you follow through with submissions
I don't try to intimidate anybody before a fight. That's nonsense. I intimidate people by hitting them.
Yeah I agree, especially when it's somebody like Nogueira or you've been close to being finished.
I support Mir in this, he did a great job.
Sig Bet 3-2
Assunciao beats Yagin (Rolandando)
Cain loses to JDS (DavidWS)
Le loses to Wand (DavidWS)
Bisping beats Miller (DavidWS)
Lil Nog beats Ortiz (Cruz Jackson)
Butthurt Mir haters are butthurt
nothing to see here.
Haters gon hate.
ect…
Learn JiuJitsu.
Semper Fi'
I used to be an MMA blogger like you.....but then I took an arrow to the knee.
there is absolutelt NO reason for Mir to apologize...
Just like there was NO reason for Brock to apology after he made Francis’s face into hamburger. Its a fight…if its within the rules, then go for it. If you enjoy breaking bones, get ya shit off son! I reveled in the feeling of breaking orbitals, jaws, wrists & ribs when I competed…so I didn’t say didn’t say shit other than “rematch” when a competitor beat the shit out of me. Or I shook the man’s hand & complimented him in public & privately cursed him for faggot & his mom for a whore. Sour grapes boys…let it go. And ps I can’t stand the public personas of Mir or Jones, but both of their behaivors were within the sport if not the spirit of “sportsmanship”…sportsmanship isn’t in the rules…that said i wouldn’t mind seeing Jones ankles snapped like twigs by anyone who can or Mir get his chin bush raped by Brock again…oh shit…not supposed to say rape! Nevermind that last!
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." George Bernard Shaw
by Fat Daddy Doobs on Dec 11, 2011 2:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Mir did nothing wrong. Big Nog should have tapped.
Big Nod had a chance to tap before the break He chose not to. He is responsible for the break not Mir. Mir is the first to knock out Big Nog and the first to submit him. Hell yes he should be happy about that.
Seems everyone bitches about GSP for not finishing his subs against Hardy. Saying he should have gone til it broke. Now Mir does just that and people are bitching that Mir went to far. Mir did the right thing and Big Nog was to stubborn and let his pride get in the way.
I’ve never been a huge follower of Mir but I find it hard to disagree. He also has some very underrated takedowns since he mixes up the techniques a lot. I think his biggest problem is that he doesn’t always go straight to his grappling. His striking is not bad and he definately has power, but his chin has deteriorated over the years and it’s not good enough to bang with heavyweights anymore. But in terms of submissions and position control, I don’t think anyone has the mix of raw power, technique and education/experience that he does. He just needs to get smarter with his gameplans and he could be great again.
this is exactly how i felt as well
I would consider myself a mir fan but he acted more like an animal them a human being displaying hardly no concern for an oppnent he has even admitted to looking up to. It was sickening to hear him laugh and giggle considering Nogiera will have a long and painfull recovery which will affect the quality of his life.
to those dummys who say nogeira should have tapped, when mir locked up the kimura nog was fine but the subsequent roll to defend and counter roll by mir happened so fast even if nogueria would have tapped this may have happened
even when hardonk tapped or should i say hard slapping mir still wasnt letting go of one of the most dangerous joint manipulations and continued touqing on hardonks arm. if it wasnt for hardonks flexibility his humerus was about to snap as well
Ill tell you what if cain is his next opponent its not gonna be to bad watching his head get bounced off of the canvas.
The reality is Mir is a huge, strong HW. Combine that with technique and he should be able to snap an arm in a few seconds… which is what happened. There aren’t many HW submission artists which is why we haven’t seen a ton of broken bones in the UFC.
I agree that Nog didn’t have any time to tap because as soon as Mir had it underneath, his arm snapped within a second. Kill or be killed.
This fight stemmed a tricky situation for HW. As fighters get better at submissions, the more likely bones are going to snap… especially with kimuras.
All you Mir haters are ridiculous.
Yall are probably a bunch of Pride fan boys that started hating him back at UFC92 when he koed ol Noggin. Then hate grew for him when he koed the Cop. Now he broke your hero’s arm for not fucking tapping, plus Mir was doing what he had to do to win, and your all but hurt and calling him a piece of shit and an arrogant prick and a racist asshole and child molester and what not. The dude is actually a legit student of the sport and loves every aspect of Martial Arts. I wouldn’t mind seeing his hard work pay off and get that HW strap one day. To bad he has to get through Nog’s star student to get it….which would be a one sided ass raping
I have issued my statement. If Chael wins against Silva, im officially the coolest guy on Mania and have the coolest dvd collection. If he loses.....then I shall leave Mania for good....
He's done this before
I’m sure someone’s mentioned this in all these comments, but didn’t he break someone’s arm or rip up someone’s knee in winning a submission just a few years ago? Granted, that’s a price of not tapping, but Mir seems almost gleeful about it now and giddy then. Not really good sportsmanship.
He was happy how won, that has nothing to do with sportsmanship.
He also stated he wished nog the best in recovery,can’t he be extra happy beating a JJ wizard like NOG how he did!
I don't try to intimidate anybody before a fight. That's nonsense. I intimidate people by hitting them.
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It just sounds to me like your skill as a writer is equivalent to your skill as a fighter. Nobody but your mommy cares that you hurt yourself. Big Nog is a big boy with lots of experience. If he didn’t want the arm broken he could have tapped. Really, if you know anything about the sport why wouldn’t you be calling out Nog? As many above have already pointed out this is in fact a STUPID ARTICLE .
Irony is the clash of opposites. It is the juxtaposition of what is expected against what happens; what you know and what you think you know. And... Most people don't get it.
Look, Nog could have tapped he didn't...
I don’t agree with ending someone career but Nog had time ample time to tap.He chose not too.
You fail at reporting this sport.
When a knock out happens we cheer. The sight of a man being beaten till he is unconscious is seen as perfectly fine even tho they could have “tapped”.
Frank Mir tho a really big douche about it is a submission artist and its what he does. He doesn’t hide it and has said many times hay tap or ill break it and after the final roll he is looking dead at the ref for the stoppage. Nog had his other arm free and not only had time to tap but he almost did watch it in slomo .Mir has nothing to feel bad about and yes he is happy.You would be to if you just beat Nog for a second time with his first sub lose in such a devastating manor. Like I said Mir is a sub artist and has practiced for years and years I you dont give him the joy of hearing you tap hes going to hear you snap.
And please never make me defend Mir again.
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