Manny Pacquiao payout for Marquez 3 fight buries UFC on FOX's Junior dos Santos
by Kevin Haggerty on Nov 17, 2011 2:46 PM EST
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Last Saturday (Nov. 12, 2011), Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) went head-to-head with professional boxing.
Well, sort of.
UFC on FOX 1 took place from the Honda Center in Anaheim, Calif., on the same night that boxing's "Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez 3" occupied Las Vegas.
However, the fight cards did not occur simultaneously. UFC on FOX was all wrapped up by the time the boxing pay-per-view (PPV) was even started.
There was no competition. Not really.
"Mixed martial arts (MMA) vs. boxing" is a topic that has become more and more popular in the combat sports community. But at this point, is there really a comparison?
"It's all about "the Benjamins," but you knew that already. What it really comes down to is: Who's getting paid? After the jump, we'll take a look at the difference in payouts received by the UFC's big winner on Nov. 12 contrasted against that of professional boxing's Manny Pacquiao.
The reports are indicating that World Boxing Association (WBO) welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao received somewhere in the neighborhood of $22 million.
Or as Bob Arum calls it, "burying" the UFC.
To receive this cool settlement, "Pac Man" had to win a grueling 12-round decision victory (a decision which some questioned as being the right one).
"JDS" earned his paycheck for one minute and four seconds of work that ended with Cain Velasquez face down on the canvas and "Cigano's" hand raised in the air.
That said, time in the ring or cage shouldn't be the measuring stick with which we equate monetary value. If so, "Iron" Mike Tyson would owe a lot of people a lot of money. (Wait -- Tyson does owe a lot of people a lot of money. Nevermind.)
Comparing dos Santos to Pacquiao at this point in their respective careers is not accurate. That's a given. Also, a free card on FOX can't really be gauged against a professional boxing PPV that has been built up for months.
Regardless, the numbers show that athletes in the sport of MMA have a long way to go in terms of catching up to boxers, in reference to how much of the "door" they are bringing home.
How do you Maniacs feel about those numbers? Are MMA fighters getting a fair deal? Could boxers possibly be overpaid? Where do you weigh in?
Sound off!
For complete UFC on FOX payouts and salaries click here. For "Pacquiao vs Marquez 3" fight video, results, highlights and reactions click here.
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Actually....
Jr only made about 1% of what Pac Man made… Not 10% (which would have been 2.2 million)
’’They've done studies you know... 60% of the Time, it works every Time...’’ – Brian Fantana
somebody didnt do well in math
hahaha!
JDS is no slouch on the ground,remember he submitted CroCop-Franklin McNeil
OCCUPY MMA
The UFC’s Junior dos Santos banked a little more than one percent of that which Pacquiao was paid, coming in at $220,000.
WE ARE THE 1% lol
IF YOU THINK REEM SHOULD BE RATED ANY HIGHER THAN AROUND THE #5 HEAVYWEIGHT (AND THAT IS STRETCHING IT) THEN YOU ARE A FLIPPIN MORON, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
by Edgecrusher71 on Nov 17, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Boxers ARE Overpaid And...
… the events each saw different revenues. And, also, perhaps UFC fighters are underpaid. Several factors.
by G Squat on Nov 17, 2011 2:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
curious to see what the boxing under card fighters were paid
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
The UFC’s Junior dos Santos banked a little more than ten percent of that which Pacquiao was paid, coming in at $220,000.
Might wanna recheck the math there . . .
"I've been blessed with a big old ghetto booty." -- Shane Carwin
Fan of: Cole Miller, Amir Sadollah, Alan Belcher, Bones Jones, Frank Mir
lol, yeah, it's more like 1%.
Manny is the 1%!
"If [GSP] stands up in the middle the cage after he wins a fight and says, 'hey, I wanna fight Nick Diaz', I'll hop the cage and I'll get up in this motherfuckers face and I'll say, 'what's up, let's do this shit.' You know what I'm sayin? But if I said something like that, I don't think he'd get up out of his seat." — Nick Diaz, April 2010
Manny's wealth is nothing compared to what the Chinese, Taiwanese tycoons have here
The "Prodigy" BJ Penn will be in the Philippines on November 30, 2011 at the Music Hall of the SM Mall of Asia. That will be good except if the mall administration decides to charge $5 to anyone who wants to see BJ. (just like what they did when GSP came).
There is no way I am going to pay $5 to see a pudgy, out-of-shape, retired waste of talent who is 1-3-1 in his past 5 fights.
Professional sig bet record: 5-7-1
IF u ask D. White
he’ll tell u Dos Santos got paid a ton of money, “A LOT OF MONEY”
"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"
he did 220K plus the KO bonus
that’s a lot of money
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
Yes it is
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Nov 17, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Its nice to see statements that have nothing to do with the actual conversation
enzo
by enzo-enormous on Nov 17, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
It is perspective.
Boxers make the most money in boxing. Not the promoters. The promoters make the most money in MMA.
There is something inherently wrong with that.
there are less than 10 boxers who make more than the promoters
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
In Boxing there is more then one promotion. All profit hits one account. One wallet.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Nov 17, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
That is why boxers make more than the promoters
the promoters have to get the best deal for their fighters. The UFC only has to get the best deal for themselves when the fighters sign contracts.
Simple Economics 101. When there is no competition, you set the price. You need to get into Bones’ ear now about making sure he gets a primo deal when he signs again. He shoudl have Drew Rosenhaus negotiating for him.
Thats why you cant compare boxing and UFC pay scales.
And Bones as a champion is allowed a rengotiating window and his agent is pretty damn good. Especially with sponsors.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Nov 17, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
pretty damn good
is not Drew Rosenhaus.
My point is that he is the guy that can break the pay scale for the rest of the fighters. As long as he beats Rashad.
That is true. And a point that is stronger then most realize.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Nov 17, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Forget that, Jerry MacGuire will show him the money!
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The only MMAmania Fantasy Football CHAMPION!
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Boxing has more then one promotion
Wat does the WBC have to do with Manny’s WBO payday?
King Kong ain't got nothing on me!
The debate was about whether that amount was alot or not
Not about whether Dana made more than them or not
enzo
by enzo-enormous on Nov 17, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
but to JDS it is
again it’s all about perspective right?
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
Is it?
How much does he see at the end of the day?
That $220k was about 15% of his annual earnings. Is 15% of your annual earnings a lot of money? Mine isn’t to me.
220k was about 15% of his annual earnings?
I think I am confused, expand further?
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Nov 17, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
I think Dana makes more than 1.45 million a year...
I would like some clarification on what you mean too eoghan
enzo
by enzo-enormous on Nov 17, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
JDS made $440k for fights. He made $440k in fight endorsements (guess). He made $200k in sponsors. He made $200k for TUF (guess). He made $75k in bonuses. He made $75k for teaching.
Probably a little high, but the number was a guess because I thought he fought 3 times in 2011 for some reason.
The $220k was probably more like 25% of his annual earnings.
so realistically
you have no idea how much he made. Is that what your trying to say here?
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
yes
no one knows how much anyone involved with the UFC makes. They are a private company. It is all conjecture.
But I honestly thought he fought 3 times this year, which makes my guess closer than originally thought.
I would say your numbers are pretty damn near what is made by teh JDS level fighters
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Nov 17, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
15% of whose anual earnings? JDS
and yes 15 % of my anual earnings is a big deal to me. I work hard for my money.
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
thanks Donna!
"Every time I win a title somewhere, Dana has to buy the company to get me back." - Hendo
eh eh, eh eh
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
come on this is right in your 70's wheel house
i stated “I work hard for my money,” so Deuce was calling me Donna Summer
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
ahhh
just finished transferring a few my The Damned cds to the MP3 player
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
Didn't that song reference her hard work as prostitution
I've got something to say; it better to burn out than to fade away!!!
Is it really funny Mayhem, please tell me its funny.
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That still wasnt the debate tho
Im not saying you are right or wrong.. im just sayinf you made a statement that had nothing to do with the actual debate
enzo
by enzo-enormous on Nov 17, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
You have been here too long to not know that I could care less about the topic at hand
given a chance to throw in an equal pay/anti-dana comment, I will take it every time.
so did Bob Arum
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
I meant more than Dana, didn't phrase it well
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
He made alot more then you think he did. I wouldnt doubt a 20 million profit
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Nov 17, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
really?
1mm buys times $60 = $60mm. $30mm to HBO. $20mm to Manny and $5mm to JMM.
How much does that leave, lol?
in this situation, I would consider HBO as the promoter as well
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
While the argument can be made for HBO's bias
It is a PPV provider, not a promoter of individual fighters.
but when comparing to the UFC
Bob Arum + HBO = UFC + Fox
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
How did HBO or FOX get into this?
They provide the content and promote events, they don’t promote fighters.
They have alot more involvement then that. They do alot of promotion
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Nov 17, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
if your going to take that stance
the UFC promotes the events much more than the fighters
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
The UFC does promote the UFC.
Top Rank does not promote Top Rank, it promotes Manny Pacquiao of Top Rank productions..
That is the point entirely. it is also why the UFC makes so much more money than Top Rank.
right the UFC promotes the UFC/MMA
like HBO promotes boxing, so if we are talking about money breakdowns, I would put the UFC closer to a combo of Arum and HBO than just Arum
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
think of it this way, Arum is no more than a glorified
Ed Soares, while the UFC is like HBO, but with more of a vested interest in the individual fighters. Makes sense in my head anyway.
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
But that is not the case
HBO has no rights to the individual boxers. Top Rank does and gets paid as the promoter of record.
Just because HBO is the dominant Boxing PPV provider does not make them on par with the UFC
in real life yes
I was just speaking to how the money is distributed. Arum shouldn’t get as much as the UFC does, because he doesn’t do as much, he only has to worry about his fighters not the card itself, that is taken care of by HBO, where as the UFC has to handle everything soup to nuts
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
I see your point
and never thought of it that way. On the flip side, I don’t know how much the UFC PPV provder does in terms of show preparation.
Either way, I believe MMA fighters to be underpaid, but the market is dictating price so I won’’t bitch too much.
I don’t know how much the UFC PPV provder does in terms of show preparation.
Knowing what an anal retentive control freak Dana is, my guess would be they set up the Satellite truck and they get the hell out of the way
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
$60?
You guys are used to MMA PPV prices and clearly didn’t purchase this boxing event.
UFC- $49.99 SD, $59.99 HD
Boxing- $74.99 HD
Straight up ridiculous price.
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by daniel worby on Nov 17, 2011 3:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Quit buying Boxing PPVs about 5 years ago
That shit is really $75???? Jesus.
"Every time I win a title somewhere, Dana has to buy the company to get me back." - Hendo
for one damn fight
Basically.
"Every time I win a title somewhere, Dana has to buy the company to get me back." - Hendo
Fuck that noise. I told my Mexican amigos not to bother. I told them that it would be a replay of the 1st 2 fights.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
dead serious boys, she's 74.99
Unreal hey?
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by daniel worby on Nov 17, 2011 6:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
My friend was just bitching about getting Mayweather's last fight
He said he paid $90 for it and he basically got jobbed out of it with that damn headbutt. “Ridiculous” is an understatement.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Nov 17, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
It isnt as straight forward. I am sure a few sponsors alone take care of the JMM salary. Do you know how many advertisors and sponsors they have?
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Nov 17, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
and did Dana make more, or did the UFC make more?
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
"Got Paid a Ton of Money"
“Aaa lottt of money”
"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"
No way. The UFC makes more then Dana
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Nov 17, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
I am sure Dana gets bonuses
but do you really think his pay works that way? I would guess he gets a salary and incentives for hitting certain milestones, buy-rates etc. I don’t think it is comparable.
"Every time I win a title somewhere, Dana has to buy the company to get me back." - Hendo
I dont think he is paid by show. I think he is paid an annual salary.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Nov 17, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Profit as a 9.9% owner, pro-rated salary and bonus
I am willing to bet that the UFC made more than $2mm for this show and his pro-rated salary and bonus were more than $20k.
back to your question above then. Do you think Dana made more than 15% of his annual salary from this event alone? How many events do they do a year???!?
"Every time I win a title somewhere, Dana has to buy the company to get me back." - Hendo
The 15% is a complete guess on JDS' earnings and have nothing to do with Dana
and yes, I would guess that $20k x the number of events (25?) is pretty fair as a proirated portion of his salary.
so your saying that JDS makes almost 1.5 million
just from the UFC,
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
I would say all main eventers/champions should they fight four times make at least one million in purses
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Nov 17, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
and that is just purse money
not including bonuses, or sponsorships. MMA fighters get paid well.
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
"believe me when I say this, he is well compensated'
“He can buy any house he wants”
"Aaa lottt of money"
"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"
When people finally realize what a sissy, fairy sport boxing is
MMA will finally make some cash
"If [GSP] stands up in the middle the cage after he wins a fight and says, 'hey, I wanna fight Nick Diaz', I'll hop the cage and I'll get up in this motherfuckers face and I'll say, 'what's up, let's do this shit.' You know what I'm sayin? But if I said something like that, I don't think he'd get up out of his seat." — Nick Diaz, April 2010
When MMA has over 100 years in the spotlight of sports like boxing has then the guys will make more money
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Nov 17, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
MMA already is raking in tons of money
The worst mistake mma can make is to overpay their talent. The fighters already make more money than the average person and each one has an equal opportunity to make huge bonuses. Everyone crying about how mma fighter don’t get paid enough need to shut the f_ck up. The last thing we need is mma lock out. Look at the over paid greedy ass NBA players and what the results become.
completely agree, but it kinda hurts to say so
mma fighters defininately arent making the kind of cash they should be, but I think the way the UFC handles their fighters salaries may make them look like cheap doucebags to us but to other sports team/league owners they look like financial geniuses. I do believe they should make more but the last thing i wanna see is a mma fighter refuse to take a fight because they dont wanna give him $20 mil for 1 night’s pay.
by Kimura_Dragon on Nov 17, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Im going to take a stab here and say PPV that use to bring in 300 viewer will increase by 33% in 2013 Is that too much? Too little?
"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"
Considering 2011 PPV numbers are 40% down from 2010
I would say staying even is a goal. But in all fairness 2011 was a horrible year for injuries.
2012 will have more stars
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Nov 17, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
and more marketing and promotion
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
and more shitty Fox shows
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Nov 17, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
viewer growth of 99k per event sounds reasonable
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
I mean it's a 7 yr plan for a reason right?
eventually every Major MMA contendor or champion will have an opportunity to fight at least once on Fox. Can’t imagine the PPV money they will make around the world at the end of 7yrs
"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"
did anybody notice that marquez was naked during the post fight interview?
with sombrero covering his crotch
JDS is no slouch on the ground,remember he submitted CroCop-Franklin McNeil
This is such a stupid and unworthy comparison..
as are most comparisons between boxing and mma on this site, anybody with extreme conviction regarding either side of the argument is over-extending themselves with bias.
Plain and simple … boxing has been around for a WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY longer time.. In fact, JDS’ 1% pay compared to Manny’s pay is exactly the same percentage that mma has been around vs how long boxing has been around (approximately 20 years versus 2000 years). It’s not a coincidence, MMA is still a baby.. the sport is evolving, the next generation of champions are going to be far more well rounded and dominant than this generation… further to the point they will have been training mma for longer and will have a lot more fights under their belt, as such their pay will inevitably go up with their level of skill. Let’s be honest, there are still guys fighting in the ufc on ppv or the undercard that don’t even know how to box/wrestle/grapple. That sort of thing will be completely eliminated from the game 20 years from now, it won’t say “striker vs wrestler”.. It will be well-rounded versus well-rounded like in some of the lighter-weight divisions.
Quality post.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
Yeah, a really interesting perspective.
MMA is like a puzzle, it's just a matter of finding a solution to each situation.
More than interesting, I would say its spot on. IMO, of course.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
Boxing has been around for 2000 years?
Cesar is a Gracie for crying out loud. They are supposed to be respectful. I see the American whore way of Life has gotten to this Brazilian. What happened to honor and respect! Wait I know… Money happened.
-UHC
are you trying to insinuate that I didn't do my fact checking?
Although I already knew prior to this post that boxing had been around for that long (or pugilism as it was most commonly referred), i took the time to double check with wikipedia:
“The birth hour of boxing as a sport may be its acceptance by the ancient Greeks as an Olympic game as early as 688 BC”
by BlaiseBlaise on Nov 17, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Not assuming anything.
I do not believe boxing has been around for 2000 years.
When the Persian Empire invaded Greece, I’m pretty sure boxing wasn’t around.
When the Ottoman Empire invaded Greece, I’m pretty sure boxing wasn’t around.
When the Romans invaded Greece (and we all know how much Romans loved spears, and swords, and any other kinds of weapons), I’m pretty sure boxing wasn’t around.
When the Dark Ages fell upon us for centuries under the Church’s spiritual leadership (who made us forget the Earth was round). I’m pretty sure boxing wasn’t around.
If you want to talk about how old boxing is, many would mention the Egyptians some 3500 to 4000 years ago.
As with many other forms of knowledge, the art of boxing has been forgotten many many times and re-discovered for just as much.
I hope that helped.
Cesar is a Gracie for crying out loud. They are supposed to be respectful. I see the American whore way of Life has gotten to this Brazilian. What happened to honor and respect! Wait I know… Money happened.
-UHC
+1
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Nov 17, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Praise Jeebus.
I've got something to say; it better to burn out than to fade away!!!
Is it really funny Mayhem, please tell me its funny.
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Ok we get it, boxers get paid more
Dos Santos made 220k + KO bonus + sponsors + he is probably getting laid right now in Brazil..he is doing OK guys
lets hope not have u seen his wife?!
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Haha! That MUST be true love right there cuz damn...
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Early reports are saying that if the much anticipated bout betweeen Manny and Mayweather does indeed go down, they could be in line to each recieve $75 million for the fight; breaking pretty much every record as far as pay days go for any combat sport.
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by Adam Guillen Jr. on Nov 17, 2011 3:33 PM EST reply actions
And that is one boxing PPV i would def. pay money for
I havent bought one since Tyson fought that big Irish dude.
And 100 million should they do a rematch and trilogy
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by AintNoSunshine on Nov 17, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Call me in 100 Years, when the UFC has had an equivalent amount of time to build a fan base.
Even bringing this up is ridiculous and a complete waste of time.
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by Kevin Haggerty on Nov 17, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
No point in discussing this....
Pacman is an established name in an established market…
I hate these lame ass comparisons between boxing…where is kickboxing, jits, sambo, karate, muay thai, etc….why are the comparisons with MMA only made in reference to boxing when there are tons of other combat sports…fuck this shit
JDS is going to be champion for a while isn't he? Damn...JDS vs Overeem would be crazy, but will Brock spoil that ish?!?
by Starr788 on Nov 17, 2011 3:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
plus pacman transcends the sport of boxing
hell even crime goes down in the phillipines when hes fighting! Thats unbelievable.Will an mma fighter ever get that big worldwide? I dont know,i doubt it but when pacman,fm are gone from boxing theres a massive chance for dana and the ufc to capitalise because with no american hw and very liitle superstars coming through worldwide the oppurtunity is there imo
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
No mma fighter will ever be that big
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by antone04 on Nov 17, 2011 5:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We are not big enough to make these paydays yet. Pacquiao > all of MMA.
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by mountaineers101 on Nov 17, 2011 4:03 PM EST reply actions
Lets have JDS and Pac fight it out
Then we’ll see who gets “buried”
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Now with more defenses than Fedor
ya then after that...
we can watch shaq play big ben in a game of football… they should make a tv show out of that or something.
by BlaiseBlaise on Nov 17, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
I take Paq do to repeated high speed jabs to the nuts
sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
That's how I roll, homey.
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You CANT compare the two fairly
Pacman has been champion for a long time, in many weight classes, this was dos Santos first fight for the title, much less defending it. Combat sports is a fan driven business, the more you have, the more you make.
And the douchebag from Jersey Shore makes more than a world class classical musician
So he’s more talented right?
I am the WAMMA Light-Heavyweight Champion
Now with more defenses than Fedor
Things to consider:
A) UFC headliners tend to make a portion of their pay based on PPV numbers, this was a tv fight. I promise you, if Pac were to fight on TV, he would not make 22 mil. By putting this on TV, the UFC dropped millions.
B) None of us actually know what these guys made. Right after the fight was announced, Cain said that the UFC did things to make up for the loss of ppv money. If folks still don’t buy it, GSP recently said a PPV fight means 5-6 mil for him. Did JDS make a million? Likely not, but I would not be shocked if his actually UFC payday was 400-500k.
Pac makes more than all but ONE other person in combat sports, but comparing a PPV based payday to one from a television bout is stupid.
lol@the zuffa zombies thinking the pay is fair in the UFC
Ignorant….I will assume that you feel you are compensated fairly at your own job. I hope you NEVER ask your bosses for a raise (regardless of their profits) because let me tell you: Your bosses are paying you waaaaaay too much for what you do.
Waaaaaay to much. Just be happy to get your $8.25/hr.
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sig bet record 0-2, both to Lance Storm.....the cloverleaf is weak
Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
Yeah, you're right Shivan
Let’s pay these guys EVEN LESS!!!!! Fuck, why don’t we just not bother paying the fighters all together….let Lord Dana make all the money!!!
Not sure what you are trying to prove by constantly sucking every last drop of Zuffa cum, but you sir are a fucking idiot.
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by dec3ptiKon_ on Nov 17, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
this is a retarded thread
do u really believe all junior made was 220k??? lol hes the champ.. he atleast made a couple mil.. like dana always says, “fighters dont want u to know what they make”
No, DANA doesn't want you to know what the fighters make.
This rumor of “backroom deals” are a joke. I don’t give a flying fuck what a fighter makes in sponsors, that is entirely irrelevant to the chump change Zuffa tosses them.
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awesome, now that you've compared apples to oranges
why not compare the combined payouts for all of boxing major events for this year and compare them to all of the UFC’s payouts for their events this year.
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You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.
I guess I don't understand why a boxer getting paid more makes the sport better or more watchable than MMA.
I think that the fact that Arum has anything to say about the UFC means its pissing him off that we are watching it.
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