Penn State graduate Phil Davis 'sad' over Jerry Sandusky child abuse sex scandal
by Jesse Holland on Nov 15, 2011 1:08 PM EST
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Penn State graduate Phil Davis knows a thing or two about the Nittany Lions.
That's because the UFC light heavyweight racked up a 116-17 record during his collegiate wrestling career, capped off by an NCAA Division I title in 2008.
Oh, and he also delivered fruits and veggies to former Penn State football coach Joe Paterno.
Not surprisingly, Davis hasn't felt very "wonderful" in the wake of his alma mater's sex abuse scandal, which made national headlines following a grand jury report that indicted former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky on 40 counts of child sexual abuse.
Davis shares his feelings with MMA Weekly (after the jump):
"At the end of the day it’s just sad for the children involved and I hate to see Joe Pa (Joe Paterno) removed because of this, he’s had such a long career and to have someone like him, ultimately, I suspect he’s going to be remembered for the way he left, under these circumstances and that’s really not fair. I think he did what he could. In jobs, we have protocol, and I think he followed protocol. Whether he agreed with decisions that were made, especially in a university job, you really don’t have control over what goes on. If you’re in a law enforcement position and your superior says let so and so go, you’ve got to follow your protocol. You can’t just go ‘this is the law and I want to play this the way I want to play it.’ I feel sorry because justice was not done. Was it at the hands of Joe Paterno? No. Some of the other parties involved, I know them, and they’ve always been good to me, and it’s a shame that they were involved in whatever their involvement was. I feel bad for that situation, but whatever happens kind of happens. I would hate for Joe Paterno to be remembered in such a bad way."
Paterno, who is not expected to face criminal charges for his role in the Sandusky scandal, was fired by the Penn State board of trustees for failing to go above and beyond the call of duty.
The winningest coach in college football history reported the wrongdoing to his superiors, but failed to alert police and took no action when Sandusky was seen on campus following his initial removal.
In short, Penn State is a mess, both from an athletics perspective and from a moral perspective. Heads have started to roll as the University tries desperately to right the ship.
Anyone out there agree with Davis? Or did Penn State finally do the right thing?
Thoughts?
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everytime I hear about this story it makes my stomach turn,feel bad for any victim of sexual abuse especially a child
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by letter19 on Nov 15, 2011 1:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Agreed
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by AintNoSunshine on Nov 15, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Pedo helper is a pedo if you ask me.
They did the absolute right thing firing his ass. People shouldnt feel bad for him just because he was good at a game.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Nov 15, 2011 1:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
don't feel bad for him at all he got what he deserved
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by letter19 on Nov 15, 2011 1:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he was done in 2 games
im sorry, but i felt forcing him to step down after the season was enough
We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.
fuck that, he was fired rightfully so
i don’t give two shits about his legacy, if you know a child is being sexually abused and you fail to alert the authorities because of “protocol” than you deserve to be fired.
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by theoregonduck on Nov 15, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
what about the ones who implement the protocol?
We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.
They deserve the same fate.
But their shitty policy of protecting the school’s legacy does not excuse him for his misguided loyalty.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Nov 15, 2011 3:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i agree that he played it wrong
i just dont agree with his punishment…imo, it was too severe, but thats all it is – an opinion
We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.
The school (yet again) is protecting themselves.
Could you imagine if something else happened, say another big bad judgement call, that put a kids safety at risk before the season ended?
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Nov 15, 2011 4:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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Faber is washed up. Brian Bowles FTW
This picture is so depressing. Lol take it off
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by AintNoSunshine on Nov 15, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
jo pa is a pos and a dirty old man too
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by 209stk on Nov 15, 2011 1:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Fuck that.
If you report someone to your superiors you did the right thing. These superiors are using him as a scapegoat while they get to keep their comfy jobs and take no blame in the matter what so ever.
Why should he have just told the cops? If it was reported shouldn’t THEY have been the ones to take action? Stupid ass fucking politics.
fuck that
So by your reckoning if someone comes to me at work and tells me that a coworker is abusing kids and I go to my boss and tell them then I’m free and clear for not reporting it to the police? So I have no moral obligation to actually call the cops it’s something that should be handled by the corporation I work for? I mean come on…there just kids right? 10 year olds always know when they’re being taken advantage of and can look out for themselves right?
You’re totally right it’s all just bullshit politics………………
I will say that I agree that he did do the right thing by telling his superiors….where he went wrong was by leaving it in their hands. We aren’t the company we work for and our obligations to society go far beyond the workplace.
Yes they should lose their jobs, right a long with him.
If your first instinct when witnessing a child being raped, is to tell your boss, you are part of the problem.
Institutions like college sports teams, fraternities, the military, and so on do not teach values or morals. You must have them before you go into these organizations.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Nov 15, 2011 1:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
sorry but ur wrong if someone tells u of abuse especially sexual u call the police asap
That or go all pitch fork mob on them and take matters into ur own hands and give them a good ol gaddafi
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by 209stk on Nov 15, 2011 1:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ghaddafied!!!!!
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Nov 15, 2011 1:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
sanduskyed!!!!
Too soon?
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by 209stk on Nov 15, 2011 2:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nah, I'm over 18.
So too late.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Nov 15, 2011 2:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
hahaha funniest shit i read all day
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by 209stk on Nov 15, 2011 2:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes, too soon
Whenever you want to use that term, think about this from a story in the Philadelphia Inquirer on Sunday, November 13:
“Meanwhile the sister of one of the alleged victims-it’s not clear which one-is trying to get through classes as a junior at Penn State’s main campus, where students rioted in defense of Paterno.
""I’ve been been going to minimal classes, because every class I go to I get sick to my stomach," the student told the Patriot-News. “People are making jokes about it. I understand they don’t know I’m involved and it was my brother, but it’s still reallly hard to swallow that.”
Some students joke about being “Sanduskied” but the sister is not laughing.
“I’ve just been reallly upset abaout it because alot of people arent’ focusing on the victims in this,” she said. “And instead, they’re focusing on other things, like football.”"
PLEASE THINK ABOUT HER IF YOU’RE TEMPTED TO USE THAT TERM, AND CALL OTHERS ON IT WHO BELIEVE THAT’S A HARMLESS THING TO SAY. THANKS!!
SANDUSKIED!
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Sooooo are you saying there is some mythical point in time that everybody suddenly says,
Yeah its fine now, its cool to joke about now? No there isn’t, it is some fictional thing we’ve created where we say, I don’t like hearing that joke, so I’m going to say it shouldn’t be said.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Nov 15, 2011 9:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
sorry but ur wrong if someone tells u of abuse especially sexual u call the police asap
That or go all pitch fork mob on them and take matters into ur own hands and give them a good ol gaddafi
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by 209stk on Nov 15, 2011 1:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
When was the last time you called the cops on your buds?
And I think you are missing the point. I’m not condoning anything he did. I’m saying his superiors should receive the same treatment.
His superiors should receive worse
He didn’t have the authority to do anything about it directly, yea he should’ve called the cops but he did pass it off to the people that had the authority to take action and protect the students. He’s the fall guy, his carreer was doomed either way, call the cops yourself and be directly responsible for bringing all the negative publicity to the institution or do nothing then take the blame for not alerting authorities when the story finally gets out to the public. IMO he should’ve called the cops, but even then he’d still personally be fucked.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Nov 15, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
If he had called the police first thing.
His career would have been saved. Even if the school had the balls to fire him over it (which of doubt they would, the populace would tear them apart if so), another school would have offered to pick him up, which in turn he would probably politely decline and retire proudly knowing he did the right thing.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Nov 15, 2011 2:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Shit he HAD called the police he'd be lauded as a hero.
They wouldn’t have fired instead honored him for doing the right and other such things, Instead he covered up child rape for 13-20 years to protect the schools reputation and to cover his ass. Good job Paterno.
my buds dont touch lil boys and if they did honestly i would kick his head smooth off his shoulders
But ur missing the point by sayin he reported it to his superiors so its ok sure if it was something academic like cheating but this is something completely different
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by 209stk on Nov 15, 2011 2:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If my bud abused children I would call the cops only after I kicked the shit out of him.
He and anyone involved should be charged as an accomplice after the fact.
his superiors are getting fired as well
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by theoregonduck on Nov 15, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
listen, joe pa did not make the best move here
he told his superiors and they buried it…should he have followed up? yes…should he probably have called the police as well? yes…but should he have been removed from the school for failing to report a crime, one that he did not commit, more than once, since he did take action when he first heard of the situation? no, he shouldnt have…he played it wrong and he was punished for that by virtue of being asked to retire after the season…if it wasnt for the politics of the situation the board of trustees would not have gone back into deliberation and fired him sooner, in what was a fairly cold way of doing so
We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.
Sooooo
He should continue to be responsible of the safety of players when he has proven that he does not have the proper judgement to protect them? What would parents and students think if he was kept in as coach and there was a new allegation of him risking the safety of students?
And don’t for a second say that if this was some Joe Schmoe random coach from some small college that wasn’t that famous, people would still be defending him. People would have been demanding he be fired from the start.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Nov 15, 2011 3:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
youre putting one mistake
up against 60 plus years of spotless service…idk what you do for a living, but for arguments sake, lets say youre a general contractor…are you saying that if you drove drunk once in your life, you should have your contractors license removed because you clearly proved you dont have proper judgement and thus cannot keep your workers safe on a job site? one thing has nothing to do with the other…one mistake and lack of follow through does not change his human composition…and honestly, if the facts were identical, i would still defend that coach, maybe not as vehemently as joe pa, but i would defend him, yes…but i agree that most people would not, most people would do exactly as you said
We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.
he didn't do his job, plain and simple.
which is to protect kids, regardless of whether or not they can block or gain yards. his supporters are an example of what is wrong with sports in america.
yes, he should protect kids
thats part of the job of humanity, thats everyones job, but thats not part of his job description as the coach of penn state…making a mistake not related to coaching does not, and should not, affect your job as a coach
We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.
Are you saying if one of your employees, say a supervisor, found out about a child being raped, and didnt have he common sense to call the police.
You’d keep him working for you? He obviously cares more about the legacy of Penn State and its record than the safety of a fellow human being, especially a 10 year old child.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Nov 15, 2011 4:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the thing is paterno didnt keep it quiet
he told those above him, who assured him they would handle it…idk how else to say it, he didnt handle it the best way he possibly could have, but his punishment was harsh
We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.
You are obviously not getting it.
Nobody outside of Penn State gives a flying fuck if you tell your boss about a child being sexually assaulted. You tell the cops, end of story. If your first instinct when being told that somebody who works under you is currently molesting a 10 year old boy, is to keep the info in house, you don’t deserve an ounce of respect.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Nov 15, 2011 5:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
impossible to argue with someone so close-minded...
We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.
you're an idiot
and you’re not making any arguments at all, you’re calling people close minded and inconsistent without providing any counter points. but nice try.
haha, all ive done is provide counter points
if you had half a brain youd be able to comprehend that my man
We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.
The points are weak.
You’re acting like the coach being fired is the biggest injustice of the whole ordeal.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Nov 15, 2011 7:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
im really not
but im saying it is AN injustice
We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.
No its not.
In any sort of way. He’s shown he doesn’t have the moral fortitude to stand up for what’s right. More than that, he just isn’t smart enough to be trusted with the responsibility of coaching students.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Nov 15, 2011 9:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
How is it closed minded?
Seriously? How are we closed minded?
So choosing to not report a felony to the police is open minded? If you seriously think that all you have to do when you find out an old man is raping a 10 year old boy is tell his boss, you have issues.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Nov 15, 2011 5:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
this is why youre close minded
because I never said thats all you have to do…i said he was wrong, i said he should have done more, i said he should have been punished…but given the fact that he did NOT just keep his mouth shut, and he did report it to his superiors, its not like he turned a blind eye to what was going on…firing him on the spot in a callous manner nonetheless was not necessary…the original punishment of a forced resignation after the season was fair
We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.
Again, telling your boss that coworker might be touching kids doesnt cut it.
You are not understanding that not telling the police WAS his biggest mistake. When you report something like that, and nothing gets done, you go to the next step. You don’t just leave it at that. You seem to be thinking more about the idiotic coach than the true victims here.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Nov 15, 2011 7:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
what are u missing here?
i agreed with everything you said, but his punishment was too severe…every time i say the punishment was too harsh, you keep telling me how wrong he was…youre trying to argue apples and oranges right now
We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.
Being fired from your job of teaching students because you werent smart enough to know what to do when a child is being molested isnt too harsh.
He’s lucky he isn’t looking a jail time for not reporting a felony child endangerment.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Nov 15, 2011 9:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
if it was one of his football players getting abused
he would step in. but who gives a sh*t about 10 year olds right?, even if it was happening IN the football building.
oh yea great job as a COACH. screw Joe Pa
i see now why i cant help but argue with you
its difficult to stay restrained with someone who continuously misses the point…youre nothing if not consistent
We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.
it's called accountability
and most jobs have one. mission statements, policies, compliance and responsibilities. These are
all part of the job description.
it was under his watch, and he’s an authority, who turned a blind eye
if your argument is his only job is to coach, you’re the one that’s off the mark.
haha
you cant say that, and then on the other hand bash him for following the protocol (i.e. policies) of his job…he did not turn a blind eye, he reported it to his superiors who turned a blind eye…for everybody who defends joe pa just because hes got a legacy, theres just as many people who bash him because hes the recognizable face of the program
We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.
most jobs, are fair, even if your superiors don't listen to you
that’s why there are HR departments and whatnot. you don’t HAVE to do what your superiors do, or not do. He chose to stay quiet, and in the end made the wrong choice, and he got what he deserved. He’s retirement age anyways, and was making half a mil a year. I don’t feel sorry for him.
ithink ur missing the point we hear what ur sayin but its still wrong
Just cuz he told his boss doesn’t mean he doesn’t have to report a CRIME To the cops . . Bad things happen when we assume and that’s what he did and he was punished accordingly
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by 209stk on Nov 15, 2011 4:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i said he was wrong, but on a human level
and human beings make mistakes…i feel as though he should have been forgiven to the extent that the first punishment levied was sufficient
We all do damage; character is determined by how we repair it.
no the punishment was more than fair
NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012
by 209stk on Nov 15, 2011 5:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ahhhh...
You do realize he covered up those child rape’s over the course of 13-20 years right?
he's lucky fired is all he got
he’s almost retirement age and he made half a mil a year. I don’t feel sorry for him
I find it pretty disgusting that Davis is defending JoePa
I feel like Penn State is a cult and JoePa was the Jim Jones type leader who could do no wrong. At some point moral responsibility has to come before loyalty to your school.
occupy my pants
you know whats not fair Davis? its what happend to those innocent kids and the scars that they have to carry for the rest of thier lives,that piece of shit should have been put in jail a long time ago
lost all respect for your lame ass Davis
Me too.
He has that same mentality of protecting legacies more than protecting children from being raped.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Nov 15, 2011 3:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Once again you have people...
Who cannot accept that their leaders are not perfect…this is why religious leaders are always getting away with disgusting acts…
by Robert(1) on Nov 15, 2011 3:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Legacy?
Turning a blind eye to these kids, the same ones he should be protecting as a football coach?
Phil Davis, you just lost a fan
thanks for the input detroit
invaluable advice from the armpit of america
haha look on the bright side detroit atleast ur not the shithole of america
(Stockton) haha
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by 209stk on Nov 15, 2011 5:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Next time a reporter asks you this Mr. Wonderful
say no comment. Im a fan, but I have my limits.
I don't know, Marge. Trying is the first step towards failure.
So he feels bad about the situation?
How about feeling bad for the 40 kids he diddled, causing years of mental and/or physical pain? Fuck this guy.
MANDATORY castration for all sexual predators.
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obviously humor is not ur thing....
or u just not enough of an asshole
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