UFC rise to legitimacy: Favoritism
Dana White and the Fertitas are like any other human being on this earth with all the same beautiful flaws as you or me. At the end of the day it is these three mens jobs to produce a money making machine that coats their pockets and employee pockets with cash.
The Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) is not in hard times, at all.
In a world where major sports teams like the historic Los Angeles Dodgers can't even afford to pay their players the UFC is doing just fine.
The problem with the UFC is what appears to be double standard practices and an overall favoritism to certain fighters. And as long as you 'WAR" you may have a job withe the biggest fight promotion for much longer then say a guy who is .500% with 2 decisions and 2 losses.
Join me after the jump and let's see who 'WAR" 's enough for Lorenzo Fertita
Some of the most famous post-fight drug failures of recent memory include Thiago Silva, Sean Sherk and Chael Sonnen. I would've included Nate Marquardt but he wasn't even able to piss prior to UFCon Versus 5. All had their excuse from TRT to supplements and Silva didn't record a human-like piss.
Of the four mentioned names one was canned in Marquardt who now will be competing in British promotion BAMMA at a date to be determined. Thiago Silva was suspended for a year and must re-apply to the commission for his licensese to fight.
Sean Sherk tested positive alongside his opponent that night, Hermes Franca and was stripped of the UFC lightweight title. In a weird twist though, Sherk was able to present new information before the commission to have his suspension reduced to six months.
Nate Marquardt was fired over twitter by Dana White but due to prior instances his track record didn't help him. Marqaurdt was also full aware prior to the event he was testing high but was not able to reduce his levels to meet the accepted testosterone level. It is now known that 'Nate the Great' is less then great in producing testosterone as he is treated with testosterone replacement therapy (TRT).
Chael Sonnen had a horrible downfall and up until his win over Brian Stann at UFC 136 his career was in shambles. Sonnen, a year prior was the hottest star the promotion had as he berated Anderson Silva up to a middleweight title clash at UFC 117. After dominating Silva for 4 and a half rounds he was submitted by way of triangle choke.
He was submitted by more.
Sonnen would go on to fail his drug test as he had elevated testosterone levels and was a user of TRT which brought TRT and MMA into question. He then would be found guilty in real estate fraud which added fuel to the fire. The proverbial straw that broke this camel's back was accusing Nevada State Athletic Commission's Keith Kizer of allowing Sonnen to use TRT without proper documentation.
Check-Mate.
Facts are Sonnen was not fired from the UFC, Sonnen can no longer dabble in real estate, Sonnen isn't licensed in Nevada and he may be a number one contender in the UFC middleweight division after all this and one win though a very impressive win.
How?
Well following his submission win over Stann he did the smartest thing he may have done in a long time-grab a mic' and spit his rhyme.. Sonnen enacted his freedom of speech and tore into Anderson Silva (who was in attendance) and he got that Texas crowd eating every last word he spoke. It was professional wrestling with reality and Sonnen seemed to reverse a year of hate and bad headlines to a night in which everyone is demanding a rematch.
Chae Sonnen is money and he is also a very good mixed martial artist as well and there is no denying his skill. He showed he could submit,strike and wrestle as he gets well-rounded but, the greatest tool he has is that art of selling and even though he goes to extremes he brings eyes and ears.
He is as good for the sport as he is as bad.
The UFC has always looked for a fighter who is as captivating with his talent as he is with his personality. When Zuffa bought the company back in 2011 it tried to use old school fighters to get steam. Frank Mir fought Tank Abbott, Shamrock fought Kimo and it turned the ship based on a fued between Shamrock versus Tito Ortiz.
The UFC is a promotion and promoting is as big as the fight. The art of selling a fight sometimes means much more then what happens in the cage. Let's take UFC 114: 'Rampage vs. Evans' as a prime example for this statement. The hype leading up to 'black on black crime' was so much it carried over well after the the 'Ultimate Fighter" (TUF) season 10 concluded. Everyone wanted to see who was going to win between the PRIDE knockout artist in Quinton Jackson or the former UFC light heavyweight champion who was just as cocky in Rashad Evans.
The fight to most fans was a 'bust'
We didn't get a knockout or submission and Evans used his wrestling to negate Rampage's punching. The bout had two exciting moments; Evans opened the bout with a huge overhand and Rampage catching Evans in the 2nd but could not finish his ground and pound.
The fight made millions in box office and pay per view revenue so the promotion did not care for the result and is also why they may never do the fight again. The fight was exposed and people overall were disappointed so the lust for seconds was gone.
Chael Sonnen all 'roided up' beat up Silva for four and half rounds and still got stopped. The people in a majority do not care about that triangle but focus on the ass-whooping from the four and half rounds prior. Sonnen has made Silva seem human and unhuman in the same fight. So, wrestling fans (yes you know who you are) don't you remember Wrestlemania 13 in Chicago when 'Stone Cold' Steve Austin fought Bret Hart?.
It's eerie similar
For weeks leading up to Wrestlemania 13 Austin berated and beat up the 'Hitman' and the fans started to think he was the bad guy all along. People thought Bret Hart was going to beat the shit out of Austin and prove he was a mere pretender. Well 20+ minutes later and Austin laid an ass whooping all over Hart but Hart was able to lock in the famous Sharpshooter and Austin never tapped-i know Chael did.
Austin walked away with the admiration and everyone started to trun on Bret Hart. The 'Hitman' had his die-hards but the vast majority chanted for Austin following the titanic clash.
Chael Sonnen like Steve Austin did everything like a 'steak and potatoes" kinda guy woulddo.Nothing special but bringing your hard hat to work and putting in your hours. Give them a microphone and you can't stop but listen to every word.
"Sonnen 3:16 says i just whooped you ass!"
Another blatant act of favoritism is the unspoken rule of "3 and you're out" that seems to exist. We've seen countless guys get cut after three straight losses some exceptions include if it wasa title fight then two extra losses.
British slugger Dan Hardy is a fun and exciting fighter who doesn't mean anyone harm. He comes to fight and wears his heart on his sleeve. He generally loves what he is doing and you see that when he soaks up his pre-fight introduction with Bruce Buffer.
Hardy is by no means a world beater and i'm not going to deny he has a major whole in his wrestling. He's a decent striker with undeniable toughness and being one of the few notable English fighters helps aswell. He comes sporting a red mohawk, a bandana and a fang decked out mouthguard. He embodies punk rock and is just a fun spirit in the sport.
Hardy has now lost four straight which includes a loss at UFC 111 to UFC welterweight champion Georges St.Pierre. He would then continue his losing ways to Carlos Condit, Anthony Johnson and now-retired Chris Lytle. He hasn't shown improved wrestling and when he went for a shot Chris Lytle he ended up being choked out in the final minute of the final round in Lytle's fighting career.
Lorenzo Fertita tweeted shortly after the Lytle lost that he likes guys that 'WAR' so 'stand and bang' essentially. This came off like your misinformed buddy who thinks the ground game is 'gay'. I myself love guys who leave it all in the cage but at a point watching a guy lose four in a row is too much to justify him a spot.
In the heavyweight division their version of 'Dan Hardy' is none other the funny kicking man, Pat Barry. Pat Barry was a stud prospect who somewhere during the Mirko Cro Cop fight at UFC 115 let it all crumble. From the get-go he dropped and beat up Cro Cop in every exchange. He ended up getting submitted by Cro Cop which in itself is a statement based on Cro Cop's body of work. Barry is 1-3 in his last four and was stopped in each loss and his one win was decision over Joey Beltran.He hasn't shown any improvement and just seems to care more about laughs then wins.
Now you'd like an example of possible wrongful release-Gerald Harris. Harris, a contestant on season 8 of the 'Ultimate Fighter' was cut after one loss. Now if he was one and done i'd say fine but here's the thing; he was on a three fight win strea prior to losing to Maiquel Falcao at UFC 123.
The oddest part was that 2 of his 3 wins prior to his Falcao loss was that he earned "knockout of the nigh" honors in them.
I don't have an issue if a legend like Chuck Liddell or Randy Couture were shown favoritism after all the years of grind one another put in the sport. When a fighter like Fedor can be cut after three losses then anyone can be i guess making 'Fedor money' doesn't help you either. I just feel the sport has a lot of issues in it's legitimacy that i am starting to believe will never come to be righted.
The fight game is not ran like the NFL as their is much more interest in it's investors. Promoting a fight isn't as easy as promoting a game. The city of New England will unite under the Patriots but to gather everyone to unite under a fighter for 50$ is a harder task.
The facts are evident.
So what do you think Maniacs' are we seeing Brass having favoritism? or is the ugly side of the fight game?
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Good post
I expect the favoritism to get worse as the sport gets more mainstream. You gotta TAKE THE GOOD WITH THE BAD
Nice fan post. Your best in awhile, LSC. Favoritism is business and vice versa. This is one of the few reasons as to why I think MMA will never be more than a popular fringe sport.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
It isnt favoritism it is business. There is a fine line… the UFC is in business to make money
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
I ain’t denying that at alla nd with a desperate need for charcaters fans can connect with it’s no wonder why Pat Barry, Dan Hardy remain in tact. I don’t like the rise of legitimacy but it’s something the UFC will face going hand and hand with Fox.
People will ask these questions like we do but with understanding of why. Me, you, a select few understand that the ole’ mighty dollar outweighs legitimacy.it’s that when they hit mainstream and people forget the UFC is a promotion that needs personalites to bring in money. Like i said a city is easy to rally behind a single person is not as easy. Hardy has a lot more fans then Jon Fitch and Fitch could win like 30 fights and if hardy wins his next bout he’ll be more talked about i bet.
Remmeber sports are stat fanatics when they see a guy get a shot over Fitch who has more and against high enough level guys-questions will be asked why Fitch didn’t get the shot. I bet at UFC on Fox at press row a lot more critical afces will show up.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Nov 1, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Only one fighter is not getting a shot at the belt that many believe should...other than Fitch there is no fighter that has not got a shot that should.
Hardy only got a shot because he happen to be the top guy that had not had a shot lately.
Basing your opinionatted theory on what has happen to one fighter does not prove your theory. It happens in all sports were some fans believe a certain player should be playing over another and does not make the sport any more or less ligit. Fitch is one of the best fighters that most fans could care less to see and Dana has stated from day one HE WANTS TO PUT ON FIGHTS THE FANS WANT TO SEE
Now this is the best sport a org that makes fights WE the fans want to see and in most cases we the fans want to see the best vs the best but Fitch is just one of those rare exceptions as too many believe GSP is tailor made to be able to destroy Fitch and add the fact most just don’t like watching him fight(I’m not one) he is a rare case. Boxing has been around for years and is more comparable to MMA as a sport than comparing team sport to MMA. And boxing when it was at it’s peak put on fights the fans wanted to see………..it’s still a ligit sport no matter how you try to spin it.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
I told you the exact same thing when i said Diaz would get a title shot
and you said this would cause them to lose credibility. Da fuck?
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I picked Siver to upset Cerrone and all i got was this stupid painful feeling in my ass
I can't stand trying to read posts that I have ot decipher the language and then understand your point
It is like reading twice, so I stopped when it got to be too much.
Is it too much to ask for you to go back and edit the poor grammar, misspellings and punctuation, and to actually proof-read before you hit post?
That was worse than Kevin’s worst post and that is saying something.
by Eoghan on Nov 1, 2011 10:54 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Haha i am far from a well-adept writer and i am sorry you had issues reading it. It hasn’t changed my friend so why continue reading my stuff in hopes it does.
I admit that when the guys edit my stuff i’m truly thankful and i wish we could just record our ide to translate into word.
I can accept this trash talk
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Nov 1, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
just go back and edit before you post
you will catch 70% of the errors and then there won’t be a problem.
I don’t come here to read Melville. I come her to read good articles. You have great ideas. Make them understandable.
I come her to read good articles
were not all perfect lol jk
It seems that somestimes when i edit and then chage a word here and there it gets fucked up and has weird spacing and words get conjoined.
It seems so much easier in the comment section.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Nov 1, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
the tigers should have shown brandon inge the door 3 years ago,
But because he is the certiorari great white hope they bring him back every fucking year. I can’t stand that shit.
by DetroitDrew1980 on Nov 1, 2011 8:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i hate spell check. *cities.
by DetroitDrew1980 on Nov 1, 2011 8:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i hate spell check.*cities.
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Sig bet with TheDragon on Rua/Hendo and Fedor/Monson. HENDO/FEDOR
Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat
I picked Siver to upset Cerrone and all i got was this stupid painful feeling in my ass
I hate Mopeds
Sig Bet Record
3-4
Sig bet with TheDragon on Rua/Hendo and Fedor/Monson. HENDO/FEDOR
Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat
I picked Siver to upset Cerrone and all i got was this stupid painful feeling in my ass
Listen you don't need to get mean on this site.
by DetroitDrew1980 on Nov 1, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
im sorry
that was a low blow. Bro hug it out?
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Sig bet with TheDragon on Rua/Hendo and Fedor/Monson. HENDO/FEDOR
Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat
I picked Siver to upset Cerrone and all i got was this stupid painful feeling in my ass
Sounds like I am in the vast minority but having set and concrete rules for who gets what title shot is the only real thing an organization like the UFC can do to be an actual sport. Sports have rankings for a reason to give teams/fighters etc. a reward for achieving excellence. If fighters with many successive wins are passed over for fighters that are popular, it is not only unfair to the fighters that should get a title shot, it undermines the legitimacy of the sport overall. It becomes just a collection of fighters paired up by popularity with the occasional WWE style promo title fight. Not really the direction that I (in only my opinion) would like to see the UFC go. Stars in the UFC will develop naturally in a proper framework, there is no need to force it.
That being said I think Diaz deserves a shot, he has many wins in a row and was the SF champ. Other fighters like Lesnar got one cuz he was a huge name, Couture got a HW title shot after a KO loss because he was Couture, Dan Hardy (no clue), Justin Eilers got a shot against Arlovski after losing, Rampage had a pretty weak showing leading up to Jones, and now if Sonnen gets a shot I think that would be weak too. If a fighter isn’t good enough to EARN a title shot, they they shouldn’t get one (and yes I know that Lesnar won, that doesn’t change anything IMO).
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
Lesnar got one mainly to do with the talent pool in HW being shallow
Herring was a #1 contender for F sakes, so Brock getting a shot had more to with him actually being a top five in the UFC at the time because of beating Herring being a top five after beating Kongo.
The top 2 contenders were fighting eachother(Mir & NOG) at the time and Cain or Carwin never beat anyone ranked at the time, JDS didn’t want anything to with the belt with NOG in the picture so please let me know who else should of got a shot with the guys I mentioned being out of the picture.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Herring: 2-2 at HW and had lost to both Nog and Jake O’Brian. The Lesnar fight was Herring’s last fight. Herring was done when they fought. Lesnar’s win over Mir was impressive but ONE impressive win doesn’t deserve a title shot. As Clint Eastwood said to Gene Hackman in “The Unforgiven”… “Deserve’s got nuthin’ to do with it!”
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
Who cares though really? I just find it funny when Couture got title shots off losses, Brock gets one with a 2-1 UFC record, then JDS has to go 7-0 in the UFC to get his shot because his name isn’t Lesnar. I think it is good for making money but undermines the legitimacy of the sport in the public’s eyes which MAY in the long term cost the UFC in the long term. The NFL model is hard to argue with. They have set rules for what a team has to do to get to the next step. They don’t let the Cowboys or the Redskins go to the superbowl because they have more fans, they let it play out as it may.
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
Crizzy take away NOG and Mir and JDS and tell me who was ranked higher, please let me know when you figure that out
remember this was early in Cains and Carwins Career and they were fighting non ranked opponents so they were not in the picture. Once you figure out who is left then you will understand why Brock got his shot.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
The point is that HW was a shambles at that point because of the exact thing I have been talking about. They matched together the most popular fighters at HW over and over again and eventually the division was a jumbled mess. Your point of Mir and Nog holds no water I am afraid. Why would you pit those two together in the first place? SO YOU CAN HAVE BROCK FIGHT FOR THE TITLE!
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
Like I said name fighters that would of been better at the time
Your just talking out your ass grizz, name who should of been fighting at the time……….thats what I asked above and your still just blowing smoke. Give me NAMES crizzy as most that get a title shot in the UFC beat a top five…sad as it is at the time Herring was.
1)Couture
2)Mir)
3) NOG
4) JDS ***with NOG in the picture didn’t want anything to with the belt
5) Herring….
This is how the rankings were with AA and Syvia gone as well as Werdum. The UFC had little depth and Brock beating one of their best at the time and his draw was a no brainer. Crizzy you obviously debating without knowing the pass as NOG and Mir fight was signed and set up before Randy decided to come back, in reality the championship was not decided until the winners of NOG, Mir & Couture and Brock all fought. Please don’t debate if you didn’t know what was going on at the time Crizzy it makes you look foolish.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
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