Matt Lindland: Anderson Silva wouldn't make it out of the third round in a Chael Sonnen rematch
by Jesse Holland on Oct 18, 2011 11:11 AM EDT
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Sounds like former middleweight number one contender Chael Sonnen has "The Law" on his side.
That's because Matt Lindland, who came up through the ranks alongside his fellow wrestler, has already established a gameplan for Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen part deux, one that involves finishing "The Spider" before the end of the third round.
Straight from the horse's mouth (via Bleacher Report):
"I think the rematch would look just like the first one, except I’ve got a game plan for Chael to finish him before the end of the third round. So, yeah it’ll look similar to their first encounter, but with some additional techniques and strategy, it won’t make it to the championship rounds."
Sonnen basically had his way with Silva for almost the entire five rounds of their UFC 117 main event back in Aug. 2010. That is, until the Brazilian slapped on a fight ending triangle choke to save him from what would have been his first UFC defeat.
The mixed martial arts community has been clamoring for "Silva vs. Sonnen II" following Sonnen's successful return to action at UFC 136, a second round submission win over the hard-hitting Brian Stann back on Oct. 8, 2011.
While Ed Soares doesn't believe his client should be obligated to grant an immediate rematch, it's safe to say that he will eventually be overruled by the court of public opinion.
And it helps that Sonnen is really the only 185-pound contender who hasn't been thoroughly trounced by the aging arachnid.
Well, what say you Maniacs? Does a gameplan exist that will allow Sonnen to seal the deal? And if it does, anyone think it comes from Matt Lindland?
Opinions, please.
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cheal wouldnt make it out the first round vs belfort
MMA
hw-velasquez,gonzaga,yvel,overeem,buentello,cormier
lhw-rua,bones jones,mr.wonderfull davis
mw-belfort,palhares,cung le,jacare
ww-alves,rumble johnson,diaz bros,daley,sanchez
lw-melendez,g-sot,aoki,pettis,huerta,alvarez,guillard,tibau
fw-garcia,aldo,torres,benavidez
K-1
Badr hari
gokan saki
remy bonjaski
tyrone spong
alistair overeem
ernesto hoost
andy hug
by infinite on Oct 18, 2011 11:16 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
you've got to be trolling right?
love to watch wand, florian, lauzon, gsp, cain, machida, dos anjos
bones jones will be the champ for a VERY long time
damn that was fun watching tito choke out bader
fedor man its time to hang up the gloves
by Burlzilla129 on Oct 18, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
no,just my opinion that the way belfort hates chaelsworth he would akiyama his ass
MMA
hw-velasquez,gonzaga,yvel,overeem,buentello,cormier
lhw-rua,bones jones,mr.wonderfull davis
mw-belfort,palhares,cung le,jacare
ww-alves,rumble johnson,diaz bros,daley,sanchez
lw-melendez,g-sot,aoki,pettis,huerta,alvarez,guillard,tibau
fw-garcia,aldo,torres,benavidez
K-1
Badr hari
gokan saki
remy bonjaski
tyrone spong
alistair overeem
ernesto hoost
andy hug
by infinite on Oct 18, 2011 11:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Vitors pretty explosive, even now.
And you can bet he’d be drilling TD defense in the run up to that fight.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
Thats not enough time
Chael and former wrestler not only has been training most his life but since being in MMA trains all the time the takedown Belfort would have little chance stopping the takedown with the training he has vs the takedown.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
you'd be surprised what just drilling a few basic moves could do for his overall game.
Remembe bas rutten? He said he used to just train like, 3 submissions, 3 combos, etc etc etc for a fight, just so he had a few solid options for every scenario, ground, clinch and standup. He never had any high level training of jiu jitsu or wrestling in his career and still fucked everybody up.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
every person Chael has ever fought
has drilled TD defense over and over. You dont think Andy didnt train alot of wrestling for his first fight with Chael? It didnt make a lick of difference.
Same with GSP’s opponents. Train wrestling all you want, you’re gonna get taken down and controlled.
Chael Sonnen.
gsp was never a wrestler,
yet by practicing it for mma he became amazing at it, so too can others with TD.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
my point was
once we all knew he was amazing at it, his opponents knew what to expect. So they drilled TDD over and over…but it didnt work!
same with Vitor. He can practice TDD all he wants, Chael is too explosive and too experience. he would take down Vitor with ease
Chael Sonnen.
Probably down yeah
but with ease i dunno, and if chael stood with vitor even as long as he did with andy, vitor could potentially end his night early too, fair point?
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
yeah it is a fair point
but at the same time, Chael did fine standing with the best striker in the world. So yeah he could potentially get KOd standing with Vitor, but I dont worry about his striking
Vitor would be more worried about a Chael takedown, than Chael would be with getting kod
Chael Sonnen.
I disagree on the GSP comment
Kos did a great job in averting TD’s in his last fight and that is most likely why it became a standup jabfest.
If Sonnen’s wrestling is so great, then why does he have a dismal record for such a “great” fighter? He has proven that his BJJ defense is shit given that Jeremy Horn had 3 wins over him of which 2 were subs and even Gump himself won by armbar. Yah, Sonnen is a great wrestler but then gets caught when he is supposed to be in the dominating position.
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by hairybumcrack on Oct 18, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
it was a standup match because thats where GSP wanted the fight to takeplace
he threw Kos on his back in the first 10 seconds to put the thought of a TD in his head.
after that did we even see another TD attempt?
Chael Sonnen.
Nah, GSP would have put the fight on the ground more often...
…he just thought he had a greater advantage on the feet.
Koscheck got back to his feet very quickly after the first takedown and had also had success getting back up in their first fight.
It seemed to me that GSP saw that he would struggle to hold Koscheck down and abandoned the takedown for that reason.
All these, uh, dealmakers making deals. Ya know, I don't, all I know is I'm ready to fight so, ya know, I'm sorry I didn't make it to the beauty pageant.
i disagree
i think it was GSP’s gameplan to takedown Kos right away, to get the thought of the takedown in his head. Kos got back up, but GSP didnt care, cause the plan wasnt to go out and wrestle with Kos.
but that first takedown puts the thought of a TD in Kos head, so his hands wont be the same, so GSP can pick him apart on the feet
Chael Sonnen.
Koscheck had next to no success in their first fight
getting up off the takedowns. In fact, the only reason he made it to a decision and didn’t get his arm twisted off by the kimura was because he had a nice grip on his underwear. Basically, he saved his ass by his ass saving him.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Oct 18, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he has a dismal record as you put it
because of his aggression. While most wrestlers get labelled as lay-and-pray, Chael is extremely agressive in his ground and pound and leaves many openings for the submissions. He doesn’t generally stall in the top position the way, for instance, a Guida or Fitch do. His raising up for strikes is why he gets caught in so many triangles. (Why he hasn’t got better at defending them, who knows?)
That has put many of the "L"s on his record but whether you are rooting for him or against him, it will prove to be an entertaining fight.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Oct 18, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally, looking at his fight with Silva, his “aggression” was all for show. He was just kind of waving his hand back and forth and not doing any damage. Looks good to the judges I guess, but… he looked like a older brother saying “stop hitting yourself! stop hitting yourself!”
It was an extremely dominant display of wrestling, however. Just my feelings.
best striker in the world.
Mustve missed that time where Silva won a K-1 tourney.
I’ve never considered myself as a legend – just a simple man with heart.
come on dumbass
i meant in the MMA world. And there cant be much of a debate for that.
Chael Sonnen.
+1
Silva is the best striker in MMA hands down.
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Oct 18, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
it was hands down through the Gump fight
no need to protect yourself against him
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Oct 18, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
silva does like to keeps his hands down all the same
Chael Sonnen.
by Newfie3 on Oct 18, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He likes to keep his hands down when he's going in for the kill
Don’t believe the hype. Chael is nothing more than another victory on Anderson Silvas belt. It’s a compliment to Silva when these Chael nuthugger/AS haters say he won for 4.5 rounds. A submission win in the 4th round is the equvalent of Chael getting knocked out in 4 min of the first round. This AS hate is no different than everyone saying he was going to lose to this guy and that guy. And he always comes out victorious. I know everyone hates Anderson cause he’s black and Brazilian but how fitting is it to be the American way to root for a villanous, convicted real estate fraud, steroid cheating, disrespectful, not humble after you get your ass kick loser!
He likes to keep his hands down when he's going in for the kill
Don’t believe the hype. Chael is nothing more than another victory on Anderson Silvas belt. It’s a compliment to Silva when these Chael nuthugger/AS haters say he won for 4.5 rounds. A submission win in the 4th round is the equvalent of Chael getting knocked out in 4 min of the first round. This AS hate is no different than everyone saying he was going to lose to this guy and that guy. And he always comes out victorious. I know everyone hates Anderson cause he’s black and Brazilian but how fitting is it to be the American way to root for a villanous, convicted real estate fraud, steroid cheating, disrespectful, not humble after you get your ass kick loser!
No.
If he were to move up to LHW and fight guys that actually come to fight he wouldnt look so great trust me.
He feeds off guys with lil power/and or mental midgets that freeze up cme fight time.
I’ve never considered myself as a legend – just a simple man with heart.
Who he should fight in the LHW division or who I think is a better striker overall?
I’ve never considered myself as a legend – just a simple man with heart.
Pretty much everyone in the top 5.
If CHael, who is as pillow fisted as they come could outstrike Anderson, Imagine what better and more well rounded wrestlers would do in the LHW division.
Shogun would KO Silva. Rashad and Bones would tool him as well.
I’ve never considered myself as a legend – just a simple man with heart.
That's funny.....
Cus everytime he fights at 205 he destroys people worst than he does at middleweights. The only reason he’s not fighting at 205 is Machida is trying to make a title run. But Chael types know nothing about loyalty and integrity.
he never was a wrestler by definition
because he had no formal wrestling background, but he always had explosive takedowns and good top control
Chael Sonnen.
GSP started training wrestling years before he joined MMA
He is also a freak but he has been training with olympic calibure wrestlers for many years now and was one of his main art he focused on to become the champ. Not only does GSP train wrestling with olympic calibure wrestlers he uses wrestling when he actually fights.
Marquardt also trains with GSP and focused on TD defence before he faced Chael and had no luck.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
exactly Puck
its not as easy as “train TDD”
remember Mike Browns comments after GSP fought Alves? He was so impressed with GSP, cause he said when Thigo left camp to go fight GSP, no one in his camp could get him down. They worked on TDD that much, that Thiago was so confident in that area…
it didnt mean shit
Chael Sonnen.
but didnt mean anything
i dont think GSP even tried to a TD after the first 30 seconds
Chael Sonnen.
plus Kos
already has a wrestling base
I have officially seen the light, which Melvin Guillard has not seen due to all the Cocaine abuse which has clouded his ego over the years, Now I know that Lance Storm is definitely one of the smartest man to ever grace this website.
by ShivanTiger on Oct 18, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
It was important for Kos
KOS was also a all american division 1 stand out wrestler, maybe the most decorated wrester in the WW division besides maybe Fitch and Shields.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Fitch is not a decorated wrestler. Pretty average actually.
I’ve never considered myself as a legend – just a simple man with heart.
This is true choro I just tossed his name out their as he is known as one of MMA's best wrestlers he was 100-10 or something like that in college
Point is he has wrestled long before MMA as well
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
I know the WW division has probably the deelpest and most talent grapplers out of all the divisions
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
I think he means just the UFC
Cause yeah, Askren is probably the most decorated wrestler in the WW division…maybe even all of MMA
Yeah I would love to see Askren challenged in the UFC
Hopefully he will be one day, as well Woodley is another guy in SF I would like to see in the UFC.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
You point to GSP’s mastery of wrestling as something others can do, I laugh. GSP is a savant when it comes to wrestling. It has either came pretty much effortlessly for him or near enough that to think that somebody else could simply duplicate it is silly.
Now here is the question. Who has stopped Chael’s take downs repeatedly that you think a little bit of time will allow Vitor to do that? I’ll give you some time there while you reach for it.
by Empty Thoughts on Oct 18, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I've heard that Couture says Vitor is really hard to take down now.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Oct 18, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing is Chael puts pressure on guys. He sets up take downs by now just circling the out side, throw a jab or two and then dive in like so so so many guys do.
Chael’s style to get the takedown is great BUT Vitor is a dangerous, dangerous guy to try to come in on and put pressure in his face if you don’t have the speed or power to hang with him.
"I have come to believe that a great teacher is a great artist
and that there are as few as there are any other great artists.
Teaching might even be the greatest of the arts
since the medium is the human mind and spirit."
by Edgecrusher71 on Oct 18, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, Chael is at an elite level as in there is no reaching it.
It’s as silly as someone trying to train solely MT defense prior to facing Silva. Both are at the unreachable pinnacle.
by p123 on Oct 18, 2011 2:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
silva vs sonnen 2
I thought chael would win the first and i think chael will win the rematch. Silva survived last time and chael is the last person he wants to fight. Anderson should welcome the rematch and a chance to settle the score with his ultimate rival.
by talkfight on Oct 18, 2011 11:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Damn, imagine if Silva had Penn’s personality. Damn fuck it I’ll watch Penn fight anyone who can rile him up.
by p123 on Oct 18, 2011 2:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's what i like to hear!
Get it done Sonnen
I pick guys with tramp stamps over experienced champions because that’s just how I roll. However, I have seen the errors of my ways and I have now learned to not underestimate the beast that is the great Frankie "The Answer" Edgar who has overcame every adversity he has faced. Frankie solidified his status as a true champion as he tooled my false idol in Gray "can’t finish a guy" Maynard and sent him back to the fight team "I just got knocked the f’ out" aka "Xtreme Couture" along with Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture and Forrest Griffin. I will now start to train UFC so that I can fight like the best Lightweight, Frankie Edgar.
What's is Matt Lindland's idea? Additional techniques? Like how to use the syringe in a more effective way to get the most testosterone possible???
Dana White- This is The Ultimate Fighter!! We dont vote guys off!! We beat them off!!
Yes exactly
I pick guys with tramp stamps over experienced champions because that’s just how I roll. However, I have seen the errors of my ways and I have now learned to not underestimate the beast that is the great Frankie "The Answer" Edgar who has overcame every adversity he has faced. Frankie solidified his status as a true champion as he tooled my false idol in Gray "can’t finish a guy" Maynard and sent him back to the fight team "I just got knocked the f’ out" aka "Xtreme Couture" along with Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture and Forrest Griffin. I will now start to train UFC so that I can fight like the best Lightweight, Frankie Edgar.
no dummy
they are going to use the cream this time
I have officially seen the light, which Melvin Guillard has not seen due to all the Cocaine abuse which has clouded his ego over the years, Now I know that Lance Storm is definitely one of the smartest man to ever grace this website.
by ShivanTiger on Oct 18, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
um...obviously ando is too durable to finished with strikes
and fael flexing his guard passing and submission game is probably indicative of more emphasis that aspect of training. Probably more about staying out of his guard and hell even playing the game with strikes from crucifix until ref “stops” it simply because the guy on bottom cant move. doubt he can sub him though.
Listen, guys. You can take all these guys with their eighth education and their gold teeth trying to sit around and break down a fight. This is the most unsophisticated and un-well-thoughtout thing you need to do in life. Two half-naked men are gonna get in a steel cage and fight for the applause of a drunken rowdy crowd in Houston, Texas, on a Saturday night. We don't need to plan for this.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Oct 18, 2011 11:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
i think next time around Anderson is going to fuck chael up..
quickly.
I hate alot of whites and I hate alot of blacks, I hate pooping in public places, but we all hate that.
by stinky~fingers on Oct 18, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
I wouldnt be
Im pretty sure that last fight was just silvas antics again.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
I hope so…I’m getting worried though
This is why the fight has to happen, many are split on who would win, I’m also cheering for Silva but not sure myself!! Now thats a Silva fight I must see.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
I'm not worried
Sonnen played patty-cake with Silva’s head which appeared untouched and yet Sonnen was a walking ulcer after that fight. Sonnen fucked up royally after that fight and will get punished in the next match up if it happens.
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by hairybumcrack on Oct 18, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I old man says that when Anderson loses...
He’s going to lose badly…and Chael is the only one right now that I can see beating him badly.
Its been a historical fact
that balck fighters, or those with darker skin, are harder to get bruised than those of an anglo/white background.
Just look at Lennox/Vitali in boxing. Vitali landed more cleaner punches but ended up losing because of a cut. Meanwhile Lennox, who was losing on all judges scorecards had but a small cut on his nose and small swelling here and there. fedor is another great example.
I’ve never considered myself as a legend – just a simple man with heart.
historical huh?
I hate alot of whites and I hate alot of blacks, I hate pooping in public places, but we all hate that.
by stinky~fingers on Oct 18, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Just like sticky to bring out the exceptions to every rule. Damn you. Cant we all be happy racists. : )
I've got something to say; it better to burn out than to fade away!!!
Is it really funny Mayhem, please tell me its funny.
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But bruises aren't evident, are they?
Just because someone says something about race does not mean they are racist. The pigmentation is going to do more to hide bruising. It’s just a fact. The swelling just takes longer to develop.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Oct 18, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Great I get reprimanded by a Chimp.
Isn’t it enough you lowered my property value in my neighborhood.
I've got something to say; it better to burn out than to fade away!!!
Is it really funny Mayhem, please tell me its funny.
X Box Gamertag: OneRabidDingo
Stop Drinking The Kool-Aid
You’re the only one making any sense on this blog. I KNOW Anderson is going to murder this dude. This is going to be an epic beat down. Maybe the first death in a UFC octagon. Chael better hope his ribs are f-ed up again. This man fights with so much honor. Sonnen has disrespected Silva’s manhood, his wife and the integrity of the sport and Anderson remains silent in wait. Anderson is going to show what a joke he is. He’s going to finish him in worse than Griffinesque fashion. Maybe Chael is selling wolf tickets to pay off the fraud debt. If Chael didnt have his mouth, with his record in the ufc he wouldve got cut a long time ago.
I think it’s really sad that we get so wrapped up in our us flag that we can’t step out of it to see that Chael is a classless loser thief and cheat and should not be rallied behind in the name of dethrone a man that you feel should be a different color and speak english in order to be a mma champion on a US stage. I think alot of MMA fans are digress back to their WWF days because Chael gives them this euphoric bastard off shoot of Rick Flair. Cheer the silent humble warrior. Understand exactly why you jeer Anderson Silva; check the highlight reel, there is nothing to jeer about. The man is amazing; the man is the G.O.A.T.
Wow, you can see right into the hearts of men
right through your computer screen. Seeing all those evil racists. Damn!
But sarcasm aside, I think so many people root against Anderson BECAUSE he is g.o.a.t. They want to see challengers, not just one-sided affairs because what is the point of even watching then. (And Sonnen’s record is 4-1 in his last 5 & I don’t see many people cut for that.)
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Oct 18, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I root against AS because I think he is a pompous ass
not because he is goat in this particular weight class
I wouldn't be surprised if Sonnen pulled off the sub
I pick guys with tramp stamps over experienced champions because that’s just how I roll. However, I have seen the errors of my ways and I have now learned to not underestimate the beast that is the great Frankie "The Answer" Edgar who has overcame every adversity he has faced. Frankie solidified his status as a true champion as he tooled my false idol in Gray "can’t finish a guy" Maynard and sent him back to the fight team "I just got knocked the f’ out" aka "Xtreme Couture" along with Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture and Forrest Griffin. I will now start to train UFC so that I can fight like the best Lightweight, Frankie Edgar.
He has a better chance of having brunch with jesus.
UFC 137 Main Card Predictions:
George St. Pierre def Carlos Condit by UD
BJ Penn def Nick Diaz by 2nd Rd TKO
Matt Mitrione def Cheick Congo by 1st Rd KO
Roy Nelson def Mirko Filipovic by SD
Hatsu Hioki def George Roop by UD
by MMA Boss on Oct 18, 2011 2:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Your a genius. That’s the fucking plan. Crucifix + numerous unanswered punches = win. Wow . That can work.
by p123 on Oct 18, 2011 2:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
how great would it be
if Sonnen slapped on that same triangle he did to Stann and submitted Silva? One can only dream..
"Will SOMEbody get that remote away from Cecil?! He's watching House of Payne on the monitor again."
If anything, a UD, but stan’s ground game aint silvas…
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
No, not at all..Stann’s ground game is almost nonexistant. But it was nice to see Chael use some BJJ with his amazing wrestling game for once. If he would just learn how to marry those two skillsets, he could be as dominant as any of the other 185ers. The question leading up to this fight for me is who has worked harder on their particular weaknesses? Silva’s TDD is absolute shit, but i think it has alot to do with his body type honestly..hes probably alot easier to get down than some of the stockier guys. And Chael..well we all know by now his kryptonite is the dreaded triangle. Hopefully bother fighters have worked on their respective defenses and we’ll get to see an even more exciting event this time around.
"Will SOMEbody get that remote away from Cecil?! He's watching House of Payne on the monitor again."
by D-VanMetric on Oct 18, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
both* fighters
"Will SOMEbody get that remote away from Cecil?! He's watching House of Payne on the monitor again."
by D-VanMetric on Oct 18, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully bother fighters have worked on their respective defenses and we’ll get to see an even more exciting event this time around
Exactly this rematch has too happen so many questions from their last fight must be answered and we want to see who is more prepared
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Can pigs fly?
No, can Sonnen can’t finish or defeat Silva.
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Oct 18, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You know..
there was a time when Silva got caught with a flying heel hook. You think he didnt stop to think ..hey maybe i should prepare for that in the future? Sonnen has shown a stubborn streak of getting himself caught in submissions and has admitted that he is his own biggest adversary. I know Silva fans dont want to admit it, but “any give sunday” does have credence. If Sonnen is prepared and can stay composed in their next fight, there’s a very real possibility we will have a new MW champion.
"Will SOMEbody get that remote away from Cecil?! He's watching House of Payne on the monitor again."
by D-VanMetric on Oct 18, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
*given
..fuckin aye with these typos today..
"Will SOMEbody get that remote away from Cecil?! He's watching House of Payne on the monitor again."
by D-VanMetric on Oct 18, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm no Silva fan
but more of a fan of his talent vs that talentless slug that some members are in love with
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Oct 18, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont know about the third round but chael whoops andersons ass and takes the belt. as long as anderson steps up
love to watch wand, florian, lauzon, gsp, cain, machida, dos anjos
bones jones will be the champ for a VERY long time
damn that was fun watching tito choke out bader
fedor man its time to hang up the gloves
so. someone from cheals camp says he'd win
no shit. still not gonna happen. as isnt gonna bother pleaseing him or rising to the bait
I’d have to really think about betting against a man i have NEVER bet against even for fun. I stilll see Chael doing it this time around.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Oct 18, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions
I just want to say this and i know i'll get bashed for it....
But I think anderson let chael do it. Watch the fight back.
1.anderson leaving his legs hanging after kicks, arms wide in the air, not his usual TD defense.
2. Barely trying a THING on the ground. Anyone whos done jiu jitsu knows that theres a million and one things you can do bar just lying there, strong wrestler or not, if your a blackbelt, theres an escape.
3. His facial expression on the ground, nonchalant, calm,sort of annoyed maybe, but not like a man fighting for his life.
Chael has this mad, continuous style of ground and pound. Its not a finishing style, more like peppering, busy, he keeps working. Sort of similar to Diaz in the standup department, but for the ground.
Finally look at WHEN the sub came. it came at the end, when they are tired, DRENCHED with sweat. Look how fast it was, how easy it was slapped on, even with an armbar to boot for christs sake. Would that not have been much easier in the first? Bone dry?
Anderson gives me the impression he can do whatever he wants in a fight. I think that fight was just his antics in a different style, much like the maia, or thales leites fights. Except this point was not just that he can be superior for 5 rounds, but that he can take the best chael (on drugs mind you), for a full fight and STILL finish him with jiu jitsu.
Lets not forget he walked in with a gi on which he never does, ever. And lets not forget chaels comments about his friend and mentor minotauro.
Chael doesnt make it this time either, anderson silva by quite literally, whatever he wants.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
^^^^ +100, Anderson let Chael think he is good....brilliant.
Dana White- This is The Ultimate Fighter!! We dont vote guys off!! We beat them off!!
exactly
and he’ll run into the fight, like the last one, against an anderson silva who’s spend 5 rounds studying everything he does…not good for chael.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
I like how people think Brian Stann is good LOL. He lost his belt to Steve Cantwell in the WEC.
Who is Steve Cantwell? Exactly.
Dana White- This is The Ultimate Fighter!! We dont vote guys off!! We beat them off!!
Its because
hes one of those enigmatic soldier figures. Like the chick that isnt really all that hot but you hear her sing and suddenly she’s more attractive. (maniacs subsitute sing for whatever you like)
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
sings or she gives good blowjobs
Dana White- This is The Ultimate Fighter!! We dont vote guys off!! We beat them off!!
THERE we go, knew it was comin.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
If Silva really did plan the come from behind, why wait 5 rounds to slap on the triangle? I’ve heard the theory before, and it is definitely a possibility considering how dominant AS really is, but I dont think that he planned it at all. There’s been so much fallout after that fight, and though most of it has been directed at Chael for his seedier side, Silva has definitely had to deal with a somewhat “tarnished” record also. He was made to look human and a hole in his game was opened wide for everyone to see, fans and haters alike. People want to see this fight for so many reasons..i personally want to see what a Silva without injured ribs and a Chael without elevated testosterone levels can do to eachother.
"Will SOMEbody get that remote away from Cecil?! He's watching House of Payne on the monitor again."
by D-VanMetric on Oct 18, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
for sure man, me too.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
I don’t say this often, or ever, but, kindly remove Andy’s balls from your mouth. Please and thank you.
"Every time I win a title somewhere, Dana has to buy the company to get me back." - Hendo
zing!
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
this is a new one
"Every time I win a title somewhere, Dana has to buy the company to get me back." - Hendo
who are you talking to?
Dana White- This is The Ultimate Fighter!! We dont vote guys off!! We beat them off!!
up button
it works. You are welcome :)
"Every time I win a title somewhere, Dana has to buy the company to get me back." - Hendo
Nah, im just not really here to argue
theres a lot of people on here that just cant be reasonable, if your gonna be controversial, might as well just run with it
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
Certainly a controversial viewpoint.
If it wasn’t the ribs it was “andy let him do that to him”. God forbid the man is actually human, and can be hurt in a fight, or, gasp! beat in a fight.
"Every time I win a title somewhere, Dana has to buy the company to get me back." - Hendo
by Deuce02 on Oct 18, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
I pick guys with tramp stamps over experienced champions because that’s just how I roll. However, I have seen the errors of my ways and I have now learned to not underestimate the beast that is the great Frankie "The Answer" Edgar who has overcame every adversity he has faced. Frankie solidified his status as a true champion as he tooled my false idol in Gray "can’t finish a guy" Maynard and sent him back to the fight team "I just got knocked the f’ out" aka "Xtreme Couture" along with Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture and Forrest Griffin. I will now start to train UFC so that I can fight like the best Lightweight, Frankie Edgar.
course he can be
and he has, i just thought it looked bizarre the way it played out. i mean, normally he snaps back those roundhouse kicks after crackin em into people, here he just kinda let em hang. Why on earth would he do that??
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
He didn't LET him do anything
Sonnen simply didn’t let him tee off on him, and dominated him on the ground. Nothing more, nothing less.
I pick guys with tramp stamps over experienced champions because that’s just how I roll. However, I have seen the errors of my ways and I have now learned to not underestimate the beast that is the great Frankie "The Answer" Edgar who has overcame every adversity he has faced. Frankie solidified his status as a true champion as he tooled my false idol in Gray "can’t finish a guy" Maynard and sent him back to the fight team "I just got knocked the f’ out" aka "Xtreme Couture" along with Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture and Forrest Griffin. I will now start to train UFC so that I can fight like the best Lightweight, Frankie Edgar.
hey man, everybody's got their opinion
i just like a bit of intrigue…!
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
Sounds better to you I know
To think that Andy “played possum”, reality is he just got beat up for 4.5 rounds.
I pick guys with tramp stamps over experienced champions because that’s just how I roll. However, I have seen the errors of my ways and I have now learned to not underestimate the beast that is the great Frankie "The Answer" Edgar who has overcame every adversity he has faced. Frankie solidified his status as a true champion as he tooled my false idol in Gray "can’t finish a guy" Maynard and sent him back to the fight team "I just got knocked the f’ out" aka "Xtreme Couture" along with Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture and Forrest Griffin. I will now start to train UFC so that I can fight like the best Lightweight, Frankie Edgar.
Andy would have to be the worlds dumbest fucking man
to play possum for 4 rounds like that and risk his belt, his streak and that paper. No man is that stupid.
"Every time I win a title somewhere, Dana has to buy the company to get me back." - Hendo
Who enjoys getting punched in the face repeatedly for 25 minutes?
I pick guys with tramp stamps over experienced champions because that’s just how I roll. However, I have seen the errors of my ways and I have now learned to not underestimate the beast that is the great Frankie "The Answer" Edgar who has overcame every adversity he has faced. Frankie solidified his status as a true champion as he tooled my false idol in Gray "can’t finish a guy" Maynard and sent him back to the fight team "I just got knocked the f’ out" aka "Xtreme Couture" along with Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture and Forrest Griffin. I will now start to train UFC so that I can fight like the best Lightweight, Frankie Edgar.
im not even a massive andy fan
just a faceless keyboard warrior, playing devils advocate for whatever cause i feel like.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
noble i know. =-)
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
Who looked worse after the fight?
Sonnen’s head looked like a vagina on the 3rd day of a heavy flow
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Oct 18, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
some guys
are just bleeders. Ask Nick Diaz and Diego Sanchez. They win fights, but they never come out of one looking pretty.
"Will SOMEbody get that remote away from Cecil?! He's watching House of Payne on the monitor again."
by D-VanMetric on Oct 18, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
they never go into them
looking pretty either
I have officially seen the light, which Melvin Guillard has not seen due to all the Cocaine abuse which has clouded his ego over the years, Now I know that Lance Storm is definitely one of the smartest man to ever grace this website.
by ShivanTiger on Oct 18, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Like i said, his style isnt really a finishing type of ground and pound
hes not generating tons of power, if silva wanted to play that game i’m sure he could have. BIG if though.
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
Chael
is like a wool knit holiday sweater thats a few sizes too small..he’s smothering and annoying and you can’t get him off of you.
But hey, it works.
"Will SOMEbody get that remote away from Cecil?! He's watching House of Payne on the monitor again."
by D-VanMetric on Oct 18, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
chael is itchy
I have officially seen the light, which Melvin Guillard has not seen due to all the Cocaine abuse which has clouded his ego over the years, Now I know that Lance Storm is definitely one of the smartest man to ever grace this website.
by ShivanTiger on Oct 18, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
More like herpes...
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
muhammad ali played possum for 11 rounds
Against heavy handed george forman. So the playing possum theory is very realistic
by nathaniel gray jr on Oct 18, 2011 1:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was thinking the same thing
I agree with this comment 100 percent. Also leading up to that fight Anderson silva said" I’m going to give chael the opportunity to do everything he said he’s going to do". What’s funny about that to me is That he really gave chael 4 and a half rounds to do whatever you wanted until he slapped on the triangle. I’m a anderson silva fan But not a nut hugger. But I will say this Anybody in here Really thinks thatI chael has a chance at beating anderson silva is retarded. Also how can matt lindland Say he has a winning game plan against a striker when robbie lawler left him motionless in the middle of the octagon.
by nathaniel gray jr on Oct 18, 2011 1:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I also got heavy Silva is making a show out of this for lulz POV too. Silva actually rocks Chael from off his back before he slaps the triangle on. Sort of in a ok, you have had your fun die now.
Silva does give that impression he can do whatever whenever, but I still want to see Silva / Sonnen 2.
We might be playing into the Silva mystique , but you really never know with him. Hes the raptor version of Michael Jackson , just unexplainable.
by p123 on Oct 18, 2011 2:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it doesnt matter what Silva or Mr. Ed want
it’s all about Dana, Joe and Lorenzo. If they want this fight to happen, as im sure the majority of the MMA world does right now, then its going to happen. Think of the $$$$$$$$$..you know Dana is.
"Will SOMEbody get that remote away from Cecil?! He's watching House of Payne on the monitor again."
lindland wouldnt last three minutes with silva, he should get off chaels nuts and shut his old glass jawed mouth.
far out.
haha
telling a coach/training partner to get off his nuts….a new level of trolling ladies and gentleman
Chael Sonnen.
People who call other people trolls, are the same dorks who were the hall monitors in middle school.
Dana White- This is The Ultimate Fighter!! We dont vote guys off!! We beat them off!!
haha man you seem to know an awful lot about me
i was a hall monitor in middle school and cant bang a hot chick.
Chael Sonnen.
that being said, a chael sonnen who will actually train and utilize bjj is a dangerous, dangerous man.
far out.
Except Chael sucks at BJJ and always will.
Dana White- This is The Ultimate Fighter!! We dont vote guys off!! We beat them off!!
translation:
" i gave chael more steroid, he will hit him 500 times and will finally give him a lump or two
NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012
by 209stk on Oct 18, 2011 11:34 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Silva is not going to take the fight!
He would rather kick Bispings ass easily.
to be fair
who doesnt want to just kick bispings ass and get paid?
"How many guys can say they actually been with Jenna Jameson"
-Tito Ortiz
"Two things you think about when you see another man... Who has a bigger dick and can I take that guy in a fight... One thing you cant do anything about, the other you can"
-Forrest Griffin
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery."
-Fedor Emelianenko
sonnen finishing silva is a very real possibility
Of course most people won’t think that is the case based on silva’s resume but that won’t mean a thing when there in the cage sonnen has the style and the desire to get it done
"No man should ever be compared to me, it would be unfair to hold him to such a high standard only for him to fail."-letter19
by letter19 on Oct 18, 2011 11:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
^ This
Sonnen has the tools to move into a dominant top position and sink in a choke. Yeah Stann isn’t all that on the ground so many will discredit what he did in his last fight, but Sonnen is much better then people realize, just because he has been caught in several triangles, doesn’t mean he can’t be offensive with his jitz. I’m sure he’ll use side control and transitions a lot more in this fight, and not sit in his guard as long as he did before, he knows that the triangle is his only hope so he’ll just stay away from that all together i believe
I pick guys with tramp stamps over experienced champions because that’s just how I roll. However, I have seen the errors of my ways and I have now learned to not underestimate the beast that is the great Frankie "The Answer" Edgar who has overcame every adversity he has faced. Frankie solidified his status as a true champion as he tooled my false idol in Gray "can’t finish a guy" Maynard and sent him back to the fight team "I just got knocked the f’ out" aka "Xtreme Couture" along with Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture and Forrest Griffin. I will now start to train UFC so that I can fight like the best Lightweight, Frankie Edgar.
Hellawrong
I pick guys with tramp stamps over experienced champions because that’s just how I roll. However, I have seen the errors of my ways and I have now learned to not underestimate the beast that is the great Frankie "The Answer" Edgar who has overcame every adversity he has faced. Frankie solidified his status as a true champion as he tooled my false idol in Gray "can’t finish a guy" Maynard and sent him back to the fight team "I just got knocked the f’ out" aka "Xtreme Couture" along with Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture and Forrest Griffin. I will now start to train UFC so that I can fight like the best Lightweight, Frankie Edgar.
I like Chael's chances more against Andy than I do against Maia.
"Every time I win a title somewhere, Dana has to buy the company to get me back." - Hendo
This is true too, Maia match's up well because Maia's best strength is on his back were Sonnen's is being on top.
Sonnen vs MMA fighters who are dangerous off their backs is his biggest weakness and Maia is known as one of if not the most dangerous on his back.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Styles makes fights. Age old rule in any combat sport.
I’ve never considered myself as a legend – just a simple man with heart.
and….
Fighters fight.
"Every time I win a title somewhere, Dana has to buy the company to get me back." - Hendo
you like calling about 80% of this site fags, douches, nuthuggers and the like. There comes a time when you should look inward.
"Every time I win a title somewhere, Dana has to buy the company to get me back." - Hendo
New game plan would be to keep it standing
Chael could keep it standing and beat him with strikes IMO
I pick guys with tramp stamps over experienced champions because that’s just how I roll. However, I have seen the errors of my ways and I have now learned to not underestimate the beast that is the great Frankie "The Answer" Edgar who has overcame every adversity he has faced. Frankie solidified his status as a true champion as he tooled my false idol in Gray "can’t finish a guy" Maynard and sent him back to the fight team "I just got knocked the f’ out" aka "Xtreme Couture" along with Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture and Forrest Griffin. I will now start to train UFC so that I can fight like the best Lightweight, Frankie Edgar.
How so?
I pick guys with tramp stamps over experienced champions because that’s just how I roll. However, I have seen the errors of my ways and I have now learned to not underestimate the beast that is the great Frankie "The Answer" Edgar who has overcame every adversity he has faced. Frankie solidified his status as a true champion as he tooled my false idol in Gray "can’t finish a guy" Maynard and sent him back to the fight team "I just got knocked the f’ out" aka "Xtreme Couture" along with Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture and Forrest Griffin. I will now start to train UFC so that I can fight like the best Lightweight, Frankie Edgar.
you really have that hard of a time picturing a sloppy stand up fight between Chael and Maia? Hell Maia is in love with his striking these days…..
"Every time I win a title somewhere, Dana has to buy the company to get me back." - Hendo
Chael doesnt have the power or technique to outsrike anybody. Maia would get in close and take it to the floor, and voila.
I’ve never considered myself as a legend – just a simple man with heart.
Sonnen has the better striking and wrestling between the two
Believe me, it’s more than possible. That was a sweet toss / submission but you’ll never see that again.
I pick guys with tramp stamps over experienced champions because that’s just how I roll. However, I have seen the errors of my ways and I have now learned to not underestimate the beast that is the great Frankie "The Answer" Edgar who has overcame every adversity he has faced. Frankie solidified his status as a true champion as he tooled my false idol in Gray "can’t finish a guy" Maynard and sent him back to the fight team "I just got knocked the f’ out" aka "Xtreme Couture" along with Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture and Forrest Griffin. I will now start to train UFC so that I can fight like the best Lightweight, Frankie Edgar.
Sonnen does NOT have better striking.
Are you basing that off on the fact that he rocked a cocky Silva? haha good one.
That was a sweet toss / submission but you’ll never see that again.
8 of 11 losses by submission tell me otherwise.
I’ve never considered myself as a legend – just a simple man with heart.
I hear you man
Just check the stats before you jump all over me though. When is the last time he was actually outstruck in an MMA fight? Just tell me that? If you can show me a fight where he was outclassed or beaten with strikes i’ll be surprised. I’ve watched this guy all the way back to his early WEC days. He’s a beast, and over agressive at times and lets his confidence in his ground game get him caught in triangles, that’s about it.
I pick guys with tramp stamps over experienced champions because that’s just how I roll. However, I have seen the errors of my ways and I have now learned to not underestimate the beast that is the great Frankie "The Answer" Edgar who has overcame every adversity he has faced. Frankie solidified his status as a true champion as he tooled my false idol in Gray "can’t finish a guy" Maynard and sent him back to the fight team "I just got knocked the f’ out" aka "Xtreme Couture" along with Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture and Forrest Griffin. I will now start to train UFC so that I can fight like the best Lightweight, Frankie Edgar.
I agree.
If only he had dedicated more time to BJJ since the beginning he would have been something. But I think the fact that he dominated Silva for as long as he did is more telling of the lack of overall skill from Silva than an indication of how really great of a fighter Chael is.
I’ve never considered myself as a legend – just a simple man with heart.
dreamers
you must be sitting naked by now after finding a buddy on the internet who shares your thoughts
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Oct 18, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Watch the fight over again
And tell me that Silva did not appear normal in that fight. He showed absolutely no aggression during the fight. No doubt his ribs were sore and if there is a rematch, it will be a cake walk for Silva. Any sig takers?
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Oct 18, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha I guess if imma bark i better bite right?
I’ll take you on.
But the reason Silva looked so bad is because Chael actually came to FIGHT unlike the rest of the MW division.
Chael took the fight to him and Silva had no answer.
I’ve never considered myself as a legend – just a simple man with heart.
you are on
2 week sig bet….now I have to sulk after reading the GSP news. I really wanted to see the Condit fight but now that is sidelined until next year. Oh well, now my wife can’t bitch at me when we are in Disney that week claiming that I’m not there to spend time with the family since there is no event to watch.
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Oct 18, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
A cake walk?
Not a chance.
I pick guys with tramp stamps over experienced champions because that’s just how I roll. However, I have seen the errors of my ways and I have now learned to not underestimate the beast that is the great Frankie "The Answer" Edgar who has overcame every adversity he has faced. Frankie solidified his status as a true champion as he tooled my false idol in Gray "can’t finish a guy" Maynard and sent him back to the fight team "I just got knocked the f’ out" aka "Xtreme Couture" along with Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture and Forrest Griffin. I will now start to train UFC so that I can fight like the best Lightweight, Frankie Edgar.
You are correct
It won’t be a chance – it will be fact.
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Oct 18, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Glad we could agree on that
I think both are very skilled, neither one is a chump, but that being said, Sonnen has his # and I believe he finishes this time around.
I pick guys with tramp stamps over experienced champions because that’s just how I roll. However, I have seen the errors of my ways and I have now learned to not underestimate the beast that is the great Frankie "The Answer" Edgar who has overcame every adversity he has faced. Frankie solidified his status as a true champion as he tooled my false idol in Gray "can’t finish a guy" Maynard and sent him back to the fight team "I just got knocked the f’ out" aka "Xtreme Couture" along with Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture and Forrest Griffin. I will now start to train UFC so that I can fight like the best Lightweight, Frankie Edgar.
Sonnens striking only works because of the threat of his takedown
If it was a straight stand up fight Sonnen would be toast by 90% of the MW fighters but because of his ground game his striking looks pretty good.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
That may be true
However, it will never be pure striking in MMA so that would never happen, and we’ll never really know for sure.
I pick guys with tramp stamps over experienced champions because that’s just how I roll. However, I have seen the errors of my ways and I have now learned to not underestimate the beast that is the great Frankie "The Answer" Edgar who has overcame every adversity he has faced. Frankie solidified his status as a true champion as he tooled my false idol in Gray "can’t finish a guy" Maynard and sent him back to the fight team "I just got knocked the f’ out" aka "Xtreme Couture" along with Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture and Forrest Griffin. I will now start to train UFC so that I can fight like the best Lightweight, Frankie Edgar.
that gif is a fucking win this is chael before steroids stann is after obviously
Chael should fight lower level fighters like maia again.. not taking anything away from maia but him and chael r in the same class and that class is the class of i can’t fuck with anderson silva… haters goin to hate and not to throw the race card out there but most people that hate on A.S are white jus sayin
NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012
by 209stk on Oct 18, 2011 1:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Same here
Maia’s jitz are THAT much better, however i believe Chael can actually take both in a rematch. He is going to surprise a lot of people going forward i think. Something tells me that hail marry loss to AS created a monster…
I pick guys with tramp stamps over experienced champions because that’s just how I roll. However, I have seen the errors of my ways and I have now learned to not underestimate the beast that is the great Frankie "The Answer" Edgar who has overcame every adversity he has faced. Frankie solidified his status as a true champion as he tooled my false idol in Gray "can’t finish a guy" Maynard and sent him back to the fight team "I just got knocked the f’ out" aka "Xtreme Couture" along with Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture and Forrest Griffin. I will now start to train UFC so that I can fight like the best Lightweight, Frankie Edgar.
lets hope so
there’s no way he spent all that time out riding the pine.. maybe he took Maia up on his offer and got to work on his JJ game. I see so much potential in Chael to be a real champion, personal problems aside. If he had elite level submissions just like his wrestling, he could be unstoppable.
"Will SOMEbody get that remote away from Cecil?! He's watching House of Payne on the monitor again."
by D-VanMetric on Oct 18, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I completely agree D-Van
We’ll see a much better Sonnen come fight night, he’ll be ready, and may even pull off a sub of his own
I pick guys with tramp stamps over experienced champions because that’s just how I roll. However, I have seen the errors of my ways and I have now learned to not underestimate the beast that is the great Frankie "The Answer" Edgar who has overcame every adversity he has faced. Frankie solidified his status as a true champion as he tooled my false idol in Gray "can’t finish a guy" Maynard and sent him back to the fight team "I just got knocked the f’ out" aka "Xtreme Couture" along with Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture and Forrest Griffin. I will now start to train UFC so that I can fight like the best Lightweight, Frankie Edgar.
what stupid lil minds u.have
A.S had broken ribs and took chael lightly and he still beat that roid ragging scumbag cheater, sonnen did no damage to anderson and in a rematch won’t make it out of the 2nd rd… like i said he already lost to the champ and it would b a easy repeat if it happened again.. if u can’t see the steroids making him a better fighter ur just biase
NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012
by 209stk on Oct 18, 2011 1:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Silva is sure as hell
"When swinging from nut-sack of the mighty "Quittin" Rampage Jackson, try to avoid getting his ball-sweat in your eyes….it tends to blind you from the obvious. Now, if I could just play a round of golf with my dream foursome of Chael Sonnen, Larry Merchant and Danago, I can die a happy man."
by wooly shambler on Oct 18, 2011 11:58 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Not
Getting finished by chael
Stop letting the hate for the spider make everyone appear brain dead
"When swinging from nut-sack of the mighty "Quittin" Rampage Jackson, try to avoid getting his ball-sweat in your eyes….it tends to blind you from the obvious. Now, if I could just play a round of golf with my dream foursome of Chael Sonnen, Larry Merchant and Danago, I can die a happy man."
by wooly shambler on Oct 18, 2011 11:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not everyone who wants to see Chael win is an AS hater
Silva is an amazing fighter, but i’d like to see that division get hit with a mixup.
It could rejuvenate the whole MW picture with a new champion at the helm.
..Some of us just want that champ to be Chael.
A finish isnt likely, but if he gets it done anywhere, he gets it done on the ground.
"Will SOMEbody get that remote away from Cecil?! He's watching House of Payne on the monitor again."
by D-VanMetric on Oct 18, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I want the person to beat Anderson to be a prospect, someone with a complete skill set
…that can compete against any stye….
And Chael isn’t that guy.
You dont think
dominant wrestlers can compete with any style?
Its a bit of a stretch, but GSP is a dominant champ, albeit a boring one to me..and even though he has the skillset to compete anywhere, its no secret that his bread and butter is his dominant top position in wrestling. Chael has that, he just doesnt have the standup game..either that or he refuses to show it. I was intrigued by the fact that he traded with SIlva a few times in their last fight..i’d like to see more of that from him in the future, but im just biased and prefer to see people “stand and bang.”
Mostly hot chix on the interwebz.
"Will SOMEbody get that remote away from Cecil?! He's watching House of Payne on the monitor again."
by D-VanMetric on Oct 18, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
the stretch being the similarity between GSP and Chael btw..sorry i didnt expand on that well enough. GSP’s dominant territory for the majority of the time is the ground and Chael definitely has that same gift. If he had JJ defense under his belt, there could be alot fewer losses on his record. But since he cant erase those, he just has to look forward and push to be a better all around fighter. I think he has the drive to do it.
"Will SOMEbody get that remote away from Cecil?! He's watching House of Payne on the monitor again."
by D-VanMetric on Oct 18, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
If Chael took Maia to the ground he would probably lose...
And Jacare too….and those guys aren’t necessarily guys with a complete skil set either.
Matt lindland is as much of a can as fedor
What he says is irrelevant
Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Cerrone and killer Cain
by Kalejohncox on Oct 18, 2011 12:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Lindland, everyone knows this already!
Signature? How in the hell am I supposed to sign a computer screen?
by Danas A Crossdresser on Oct 18, 2011 12:45 PM EDT reply actions
I want to see Ryo Chonan vs. Anderson Silva II
See if Anderson can redeem himself.
It's nice to be nice to the nice.
by RandyCouture'sDivorceLawyer on Oct 18, 2011 1:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I agree with Lindland
Chael should completely dominate Silva in the rematch. He rocked Silva several times on the feet and took him down whenever he wanted and kept him down in the first match. Silva just can’t handle Chael’s wrasslin’, period. Sure Silva could catch him with a shot, but he had 5 rounds to catch him with a shot the first time and couldn’t. And Chael doesn’t buy into Silva’s greatness which almost every other fighter Silva has faced has. They all looked like a deer in the headlights. Chael just swung away and took him down every round. Sonnen FTW.
i could probably do that too if was roid ragging
Funny how all u people get on Overeem about steroids and he’s never been caught but when a chael a proven cheater in the cage and out takes performance enhancing drugs to TRY to dethrone our reigning champ u people love him…FUCK CHAEL YO AS is the greatest and won’t b bothered by a chump like chael
NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012
by 209stk on Oct 18, 2011 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Anderson did just as much damage to Chael
Anderson was no where near getting stopped against Chael and Chael looked more beat up than Anderson as he struck from his back!!! I tell you people’s memory has failed them miserably!
Matt lindland is a punching bag. He's irrelevant.
This is getting boring though, just shut the fuck up already! Their isn’t even a fight yet.
UFC 137 Main Card Predictions:
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BJ Penn def Nick Diaz by 2nd Rd TKO
Matt Mitrione def Cheick Congo by 1st Rd KO
Roy Nelson def Mirko Filipovic by SD
Hatsu Hioki def George Roop by UD
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