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Anderson Silva's next fight: Who should be 'The Spiders' final four?

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Is Anderson Silva the greatest MMA fighter of all time?

Any knowledgeable fan of the sport can understand an argument for the affirmative. Silva's dominance in the past five years has been unmatched. He's taken on every challenger, including some in other weight classes, and disposed of them with ease. In fact, he's been so dominant in some of his performances that he's been labeled "boring."

News broke just yesterday that Silva's career may be entering its twilight period. His manager, Ed Soares, made it clear to SporTV "The Spider" has just four fights left before the end.

"Let's see what the big boss is going to do. My opinion is that he (Sonnen) had his chance and tapped, he should go back to the end of the line. The same thing is true with Vitor Belfort. They're great fighters, but they had their chance. Sonnen would make a big fight, as would Dan Henderson and Georges St-Pierre, but we should recognize that Anderson only has around 4 fights left in his career."

With precious few fights remaining before he calls it quits, then, who's left to challenge him? His impending retirement means there are some match-ups that absolutely must be made in the very near future.

We'll give you the four most important bouts to solidify Silva's title as "The Greatest Of All Time" after the jump.

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Anderson Silva vs Chael Sonnen 2

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This rematch must happen. After Sonnen's outburst at UFC 136, there is no side stepping it. Silva may have been able to pass by Sonnen's borderline lunacy prior, but now, he has to squash it.

Sonnen handled Anderson for 21 minutes of their first 23 minute bout. Chael hit him with punches, took him down at will, and controlled him on the mat ... until the last minute, of course. But the damage to Silva's aura of "invincibility" was done. For the first time, we saw holes in the champs armor.

Silva and camp have said that Sonnen's outburst will not control when they accept the fight, and rightfully so. The champ should decide when he wants the rematch, but there should not be a question of 'if'. If Silva does not accept this fight, rumors from Silva-haters everywhere will ring loud and clear. "HE DUCKED HIM!!" "HE WAS SCARED!" "HE KNEW HE WOULD LOSE!" In order to go down as the all-time great, you have to silence your critics. You beat Chael for a second time, you're well on your way.

Anderson Silva vs Georges St Pierre

It's a match that MMA fans have been salivating over for quite some time now. If there's a case to be made for someone being as dominant as Anderson Silva in the past couple of years, that case is usually made for GSP. Anderson Silva vs Georges St PierreHe has defended his belt 7 times and done so in as equally impressive manner as Anderson. Assuming Silva can get past Sonnen, it's time he step up to Sonnen 2.0.

GSP does everything that Sonnen does, he just does it better with less size and twice the athleticism. And we already know that Sonnen had a game plan for success. St. Pierre would be able to land more explosive takedowns, a quicker jab, and have that little extra added bonus known as "submission defense." In my opinion, "Rush" represents one of the biggest challenges that Silva could possibly face. A wrestler with great top control and good defense. If Silva makes it through Sonnen, a match-up with "GSP" should be in his very near future.

Anderson Silva vs Jon Jones

Assuming he handles both St. Pierre and Sonnen, we should first, stop for a round of applause. Anderson Silva and Jon JonesThen promptly get back to picking him apart. In my completely hypothetical tournament, Silva would have already disposed of two outstanding MMA wrestlers. We have to change our course of action. How about one of the most dynamic strikers in the sport?

Oh, and by the way, he'll be heavier and taller than you. Maybe this will work.

The two would have to meet at some sort of catchweight, but Jones would still clearly have a distinct height and reach advantage. Jones could still wrestle his way out of a bad spot if needed, but it would serve him well to keep his range and light Silva up from distance. Jones represents a unique challenge with his unorthodox striking, but would it be successful against Silva's head movement?

We might as well try, because I am running out of ideas.

Anderson Silva vs Middleweight Challenger 'X'

If Silva puts a stern beating on Sonnen, St. Pierre, and Jones, we simply give up. That's right, just hang it up. I'm sure someone out there will want him to face Cain Velasquez (or whoever the heavyweight titleholder is at that time) but we have to draw the line somewhere. It's time to let Silva bask in the glory of being the best ever. That's why we give him a final send off inAnderson Silva GOAT his home territory.

During the amount of time it would take Silva to face these three challengers, I'm sure that a new and exciting middleweight challenger will rise from the ashes. A challenger that many fans will be excited to see challenge for the belt. We'll break down his new and exciting strategy and his ten keys to victory. That's when Anderson steps back in and crushes all of our hypothesis for the final time. He defends his belt once again and walks away with a legendary winning streak, the likes of which may never be seen again. An induction into the UFC Hall of Fame will undoubtedly follow the bout.

So there it is. My final four dream fights for "The Spider." It's unlikely that his final stretch will materialize this way, but we can always hope, right?

Maybe you see it a little differently. Let me know in the comments section below who you want in Anderson's "final four" and the order you want them to happen.

Whether it plays out this way or not, watching the career of Anderson Silva has been an amazing spectacle for all of us who have been lucky enough to watch it.

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Options 2 and 3 will never happen

I opt for option 4 where he fights the Green Lantern as that is as likely as GSP and Jones.

Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion

by hairybumcrack on Oct 15, 2011 8:46 AM EDT reply actions  

never know

if GSP beats Condit, and BJ beats DIaz, the UFC wont want to set up GSP/BJ…so a good option for GSP then is Silva

Chael Sonnen.

by Newfie3 on Oct 15, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

GSP is not moving up any time soon

He keeps talking about doing this correctly, putting on weight in a controlled manner, and then he’d think about it but he’d be one of the smallest 185’ers out there. I agree that I’d like to see this but I highly doubt that it will happen. Remember GSP wants to solidify his legacy, and having his first fight happen at 185 with Silva is not the way to do it.

Silva would also win this by TKO in rd 2 – his striking is superior and GSP’s striking defense is not that good.

Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion

by hairybumcrack on Oct 15, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Silva highlights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DItTqqf3dec

I know I posted this in another post but i thought this was badass with the music.

by Hank_Mardukas on Oct 15, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

final four?

 Its very common for fighters to claim 4-5 fights left or a couple of years. Who knows but anderson has said over and over and over he’s not going to 205. Jones has 1 defense silva has 9 fanboys need to slow down with their dreams. Gsp has shown no actual signs of ever leaving ww. Anderson will clean out mw versus sonnen henderson bisping by then who knows. Dana has never scheduled fights 2 years down the road

by talkfight on Oct 15, 2011 12:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Exactly.

The idea of jones/silva is idiotic right now, jones has one title defense. He has very credible challengers waiting to get a shot at him including machida, rashad, hendo, davis, and possibly rua again. Just those fights would take him into mid 2013.

UFC 137 Main Card Predictions:

George St. Pierre def Carlos Condit by UD
BJ Penn def Nick Diaz by 2nd Rd TKO
Matt Mitrione def Cheick Congo by 1st Rd KO
Roy Nelson def Mirko Filipovic by SD
Hatsu Hioki def George Roop by UD

by MMA Boss on Oct 15, 2011 1:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Umm, no.

The reality is it seems like it is,“lunacy” because there is a very real possibility you’re going to see your precious spider squshed by Jones…..That’s just something you couldn’t bear to see, admit it.Besides-I think Jones’ resume’ is honestly more impressive despite his one title defense when you base it on the quality of his opposition, and how he eliminated them imho.

by Brentanimous P-R-I-M-E on Oct 15, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jone's resume is better than silva's?

Would you mind putting down the pipe and explaining that?

by goldmouth on Oct 15, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Jones two top wins (Rampage and Shogun) beat Silva’s 2 best (Henderson, Griffin?)

by folsomprison on Oct 15, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Silva beat a prime franklin twice when franklin was beasting the mw division.

Jone’s resume doesn’t compare right now. Maybe in the future, but right now its not even close.

by goldmouth on Oct 15, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

in this hypothetical world that you're all arguing about, you've also got to think about time frame as well...

JBJ is schedule for his 4th fight since Feb while Silva has only fought twice. By the time Silva beat Chael, and GSP, this would be at least 1.5-2 yrs down the road. Going at his current rate, or even if he only fights 2x next yr (as his next fight is Dec and he said he wanted time off), JBJ would’ve defended his title 5/6 times by the time they’d be schedule to fight. would he be qualified then???

imagine his next 5 fights, assuming he wins them all (which i assum he actually will), Machida, Rashad, Henderson, Davis, Rua.

I think by the time all this came to fruition, not a damn person would be complaining about this fight happending except that it cant happen fast enough.

losers make excuses, winners make it happen...

by Wingblade on Oct 15, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no problem with there being talk of silva/jones

But as of now jones resume doesn’t match up with silva’s. Silva could retire right now and go down as 1 of the greatest. But if jones loses his next fight to machida, He’s back climbing the mountain.

by goldmouth on Oct 15, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Franklin is no Shogun or Rampage

.Machida beat Franklin before Anderson Silva did….. ( and of course Shogun and rampage beat machida) Franklin cant hang with the killers

by folsomprison on Oct 15, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Franklin was a beast at 185 when silva took the title.

Silva wasn’t favored going into that fight. Not saying that win is light years better than the ramapge and rua fights. But its in the same ballpark. JOnes only has 2 big wins as of now.

by goldmouth on Oct 15, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Franklins biggest win was over David Loiseau, Evan Tanner and Ken Shamrock (he lost to machida). He doesnt compare to Shogun and Rampage, not in my books anyhow. I think Shogun or Rampage woulda have wiped the walls with him back then

by folsomprison on Oct 15, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d put Yushin, Chuck, and Wanderlei higher than those guys

by donkeypunch on Oct 15, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shogun and Rampage both knocked out Chuck? But you put Chuck higher? To say Yushin Okami is better then Shogun and Rampage is pretty funny. lol

by folsomprison on Oct 15, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, yeah chuck and wanderlia are good wins for Franklin…….but I dont see him in the same talent pool as Shogun and Rampage

by folsomprison on Oct 15, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't either

Not quite – still a fan though

by donkeypunch on Oct 15, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Franklin’s win agaisnt Chuck does not fucking count. GTFO.

by p123 on Oct 16, 2011 4:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bruh...there were no talks of GSP fighting Silva when he was 1 fight into his championship reign

But for some reason everyone is talking about Anderson vs Jones…superfights are great when they are actually super…the only superfight for Silva right now is against GSP because GSP is on an equal platform in terms of success in the UFC…Jones is just the young phenom fresh on the scene….how come we don’t hear about Jones vs Cain? Or Edgar vs GSP?

by Starr788 on Oct 15, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

quality of jone's opposition??

come on now he has 2 wins i would consider impressive names. Shogun and Rampage. and all this BS about silva being a big bully fighting guys smaller than him can be said about jones as well.but i don’t see anyone screaming to throw jones to cain (who would dump him on his ass and turn his face into ground beef) but i do agree jones would most likely beat silva. but not with striking. i’d see it going similar to how it did for the janitor. toss him down from a clinch and elbow him out

by soupdz28 on Oct 15, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Throw Jones to Cain!

I want to see him dumped on his ass and his face turned to ground beef.

1-0 Sig bets

One month sig bet with TheDragon on Cain vs. JDS
Cain Train ftw

by Armando Baez on Oct 15, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

You and me both haha

1-0 Sig bets

One month sig bet with TheDragon on Cain vs. JDS
Cain Train ftw

by Armando Baez on Oct 15, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jones would beat Cain

ill fight them all men,women,children ,retarded people it doesn't matter if you hit me were gonna fight -Charles "Krazyhorse" Bennett

by TigerTD on Oct 15, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no way to determine that , like at all. Jones super advantages, aren’t so advantageous at HW. There’s no telling how Jones would fair at HW at all yet.

by p123 on Oct 16, 2011 4:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Silva should Bones Jones

Soon Jones will have beat Machida to………(3 very tough opponents, shogun, rampage, machida that perhaps Anderson could not beat himself….we’ll never know)

by folsomprison on Oct 15, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Silva should Bones Jones

lol

by donkeypunch on Oct 15, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't overlook Machida.

Anyone that trains with Blackhouse is a dangerous dude especially when his sparring partner is the best striker in the UFC.

1-0 Sig bets

One month sig bet with TheDragon on Cain vs. JDS
Cain Train ftw

by Armando Baez on Oct 15, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finl four..

Sonnen @ 185
Mousasi @ 205
Shogun @ 205
Mir @ HW (go out with a win in a 3rd weight division)

’’They've done studies you know... 60% of the Time, it works every Time...’’ – Brian Fantana

by ---Cole--- on Oct 15, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Silva/Mir...

Dumb

"What are you gonna do, hit him? No, that's a terrible idea, I'll tell you why.. it doesn't unbang your mom. "

by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Oct 15, 2011 3:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I remember a while back they were actually serious about setting that up.

Would be interesting.

1-0 Sig bets

One month sig bet with TheDragon on Cain vs. JDS
Cain Train ftw

by Armando Baez on Oct 15, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would like to see a super fight between St. Pierre vs. Sonnen.

It can be called GSP vs. LSC (liar, stealer, cheater)!

Dana White- This is The Ultimate Fighter!! We dont vote guys off!! We beat them off!!

by Mattito on Oct 15, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here is a realistic line up, IMO:

Shogun @ 185 or 205

Rampage @ 205

GSP @ 185 or a catchweight suitable for both?

Retire.

He already beat Sonnen, Vitor, Hendo, etc. I understand that the haters want to see him fall but I would rather see him fight other big names (win or lose) instead of rematches in this point of his career.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King

by OJR on Oct 15, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see how the Sonnen fight doesn't happen

But would love to see Shogun and Spidey. Would also love to see Shogun drop to 185 but I don’t see him doing that. i doubt he has much experience if any at all with cutting weight.

by donkeypunch on Oct 15, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not interested in the Sonnen fight - even if Andy loses. So let's say Andy wins. So what? He already beat Sonnen the 1st time. What if Sonnen wins? Then we have a trilogy and more WWE crap instead of other juicy fights.

The ONLY reason people are clamoring for the Sonnen rematch is because he is a WWE character now and people are sick of Andy – they want a change. I get it, but its not enough of a good reason.

I am not sure about Shogun cutting weight – but he seems slender enough top wise even though he has tree trunk legs.

Let’s say you are right – then make it @ 205. Still sounds good to me.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King

by OJR on Oct 15, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man you must be blind. People want to see Sonnen / Silva 2 because Sonnen beat the crap out of Anderson for 4 + rounds. Sure he lost, but that doesn’t mean we magically forgot about Anderson getting the worst beating of his life . Cmon Son.

by p123 on Oct 15, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big Nog is not Anderson Silva. Anderson Silva does not get his ass kicked, except when he fights Sonnen. Silva kills everyone else, easily, why not give him a challenge. There’s literally no other fight for him at 85 everyone is dead.

by p123 on Oct 15, 2011 4:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sonnen tapped out. I would say Andy already met that challenge and passed with flying colors.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King

by OJR on Oct 16, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, some people do dig the WWE shit

Personally it’s not for me. I’m one of those people who want to see the fight again because I’ve never seen anybody do that to Silva before. i want to find out if that was a broken rib or Sonnen really tearing him up.

And yes, 205 or 252, I want to see that fight.

by donkeypunch on Oct 15, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That sounds reasonable but rematches hardly do it for me unless it was a controversial finish.

Rua – Machida I

Phan – Garcia

…are the only ones that come to mind. Otherwise, if there was a definite finish then it does not hold my interest.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King

by OJR on Oct 15, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

His fights should be at MW, since you know, he’s a MW fighter, and has stated he plans on staying a MW fighter.

Sonnen , and then who knows what’s next after that? We are going to have to wait this out, there’s like no challengers out there as of right now.

GSP is not fighting Silva, that’s silly. Plus GSP has a whole slew of contenders now. NBK, Diaz, Ellenberger, Rumble, Story, GSP is going to be busy for a long time.

by p123 on Oct 15, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, thank you for reminding me he is a MW. Let me also remind you that he has fought @ 205 with a decent success rate. So, yes, my speculation is actually based on reality and not on the whims of a crazy keyboard warrior.

I agree that he has no challengers left @ 185. Why do you think I mentioned the other fights @ 205?

I am pretty sure a catchweight for the sake of a “super fight” is not beyond the realm of possibility when it comes to GSP – Andy.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King

by OJR on Oct 15, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It doesnt matter , Anderson is staying at 85 , get over it.

by p123 on Oct 15, 2011 4:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I see that reasoning with you is the equivalent of getting Sonnen to be quiet...

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King

by OJR on Oct 16, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s just that your points are irrelevant, and a waste of time. Anderson has said multiple , multiple times, he’s not leaving 185. You don’t like it, neither do I, but until Anderson changes his mind on that, making fantasy nerd match ups outside of 185 is a complete waste of time at this time . So why waste time talking about something that will in all likelihood, never happen?

by p123 on Oct 16, 2011 4:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bingo.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King

by OJR on Oct 17, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Love or hate’em. He’s top 3 all time in mma and we shouldn’t waste his last couple of years rematching guys who really really really think they can beat him in a rematch. Silva/rua is exciting for all the right reasons. They don’t have to say a phucking word!

by goldmouth on Oct 15, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

gsp would have more explosive takedowns than sonnen would have in a fight against silva? no. just no.

gsp has great wrestling.
chael is a great wrestler.

by tha dude on Oct 15, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

but you don’t think GSP has quicker transitions to takedowns? And GSP knee pick takedowns are some of the best in MMA. I’m not a huge GSP fan or anything, I just think he has a little quicker takedowns than Sonnen’s. But Sonnen’s are still very impressive.

we got a saying back home, if your coming on…come on!!!- harold howard

by Kc bjj on Oct 15, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sonnen's is not flashy, not his style

Who cares about explosiveness? When Sonnen gets a guy down he also gets position and that makes his take downs better than GSPs. Sonnen also scores on the ground….has he ever done the lay and pray?

by sb905 on Oct 15, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

My picks

1. Jones
2. Shogun
3. Rampage
4. Hendog @ 205
5. Gsp @ 185

No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth

by d*locc on Oct 15, 2011 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Tough Opponents

I like your picks, why more people dont want to see him face the biggest threats, beats me.. …Seems most his fans just want to see him fight Bisping 4 times.

by folsomprison on Oct 15, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't Andy getting slaughtered in any of the fights I named.

I see him kicking ass in a bunch o those fights. I just wana see the best fight available & IMO they ain’t @ 185.

No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth

by d*locc on Oct 15, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats all I want to. Your suppose to fight the best talent, and its in that division.

by folsomprison on Oct 15, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol @ that last gif

I think that’s actually the real time speed of Forrest’s punches

by needcashnow on Oct 15, 2011 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Sonnen – Hendo – Jones – Jesse Holland

Signature? How in the hell am I supposed to sign a computer screen?

by Danas A Crossdresser on Oct 15, 2011 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Beat sonnen and bisping and retire . That would be best

I’m tired of everyone just wanting to finally watch him lose . He’s a mw fighter . He doesn’t have to move up . Although he already has twice . If someone wants to come to 185 to challenge him but he’s the greatest and doesn’t have to jump through hoops to prove it .
He already has proved it for 6 years now.
The last thing he or the ufc needs are superfights while he’s creeping up on 40 years old .

"When swinging from nut-sack of the mighty "Quittin" Rampage Jackson, try to avoid getting his ball-sweat in your eyes….it tends to blind you from the obvious. Now, if I could just play a round of golf with my dream foursome of Chael Sonnen, Larry Merchant and Danago, I can die a happy man."

by wooly shambler on Oct 15, 2011 1:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Agreed.

UFC 137 Main Card Predictions:

George St. Pierre def Carlos Condit by UD
BJ Penn def Nick Diaz by 2nd Rd TKO
Matt Mitrione def Cheick Congo by 1st Rd KO
Roy Nelson def Mirko Filipovic by SD
Hatsu Hioki def George Roop by UD

by MMA Boss on Oct 15, 2011 1:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wooly...I love you bruh...

The way straight guys love other straight guys

by Starr788 on Oct 15, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Either kind of love has me seeing starrs ;)

"When swinging from nut-sack of the mighty "Quittin" Rampage Jackson, try to avoid getting his ball-sweat in your eyes….it tends to blind you from the obvious. Now, if I could just play a round of golf with my dream foursome of Chael Sonnen, Larry Merchant and Danago, I can die a happy man."

by wooly shambler on Oct 15, 2011 1:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

spitzbing is not top 5....

Jorge Rivera? Come on. He even cheated on that one.
Sonnen would murder him

Spitzbing needs to be tested at a better level…Mayhem will be an interesting fight.

by sb905 on Oct 15, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

True fan!

I’d rather see him fight 2 more mid tier guys than retire. Instead of taking on the best 205 has 2 offer. Has nothing 2 do w/ people wanting 2 see him lose. We want 2 see how gr8 he actually is. He has 4 fights left Y the fuck wud u want 2 see him fight 2 more chumps then retire? He hasn’t shown any signs of slowing that’s just pussy talk rite there. Lol I want 2 see him fight lisping then retire =D. For real?

No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth

by d*locc on Oct 15, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

We know how great Anderson is...

He’s done enough to retire a legend…not saying he should retire after 2…..maybe after 3 :)

by Starr788 on Oct 15, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

No...I'm definitely not saying that...

Nice try bruh…but I’m probably the only guy on this forum that says Floyd and Pacman will square dance in 2012

by Starr788 on Oct 15, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well hope I so.

I don’t want Andy 2 move up in w8 2 see him lose. I want 2 see the gr8 fights he’s capable of putting on. He’s in his prime rite now y the fuck not? Wut true fan wudnt want 2 see Andy make a run @ 105 b4 he retires ?

No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth

by d*locc on Oct 15, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

*205

No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth

by d*locc on Oct 15, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

A run at 205 might last 2 years with all the names currently challenging for a title shot

And what happens if he does make it to a title shot and wins…him retiring with the belt makes nooooo sense for Zuffa….IMO of course…I’d love to see him fight fights that are meaningful, not just fights that fans are begging for…all the fights at 185 are meaningful for him…the only fight at 205 that is meaningful for him is against Jones…and I doubt that fight happens

by Starr788 on Oct 15, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

He wudnt start @ the bottom of the barrel.

He’d probly get an immediate title shot or #1 contender match. It’s 4 fights left make’m worth it Gdam it!

No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth

by d*locc on Oct 15, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i said something similar a while back

he needs to beat sonnen. GSP should move up for an immediate title shot which anderson retires after, win or lose. he loses GSP still has a belt and both divisions get shaken up a bit

by soupdz28 on Oct 15, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed , Sonnen and Bisping is good enough. Let the man retire after that and go down as the greatest ever.

by p123 on Oct 15, 2011 4:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Chael Sonnen
Michael Bisping
GSP
Jon Jones
Alternative option: Hector Lombard???

by Starr788 on Oct 15, 2011 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Bisping....lol

haha…..I guess Bisping’s trash talk is working?

I think the only reason that people would want to see it is so they can have another animated gif of Bisping being knocked out.

It would be a non-competitive fight

by sb905 on Oct 15, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

and just how.....

and just how has he or how will he earn that fight?
UFC last gave him Rivera…..a guy that is middle of the road and about to retire.

by sb905 on Oct 15, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

lets see

Stann
Hendo
Maia
Belfort
Belcher…..Belcher would own Spitzbing

by sb905 on Oct 15, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha...yeeeeeeah right

Stann coming off a loss is ahead of Bisping?
Hendo who is 2-1 at MW since fighting Anderson is ahead of Bisping?
Maia coming off one win is ahead of Bisping?
Belfort coming off one win after getting kicked in the face by Anderson is ahead of Bisping?
Belcher? I won’t even comment on the inclusion of Belcher…

You’re disrespecting my area code with these out of bounds comments 905…take them back!!!!!!!

by Starr788 on Oct 15, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is not a line up.....you gotta earn

All those guys stand a better shot against Silva than Bisping.

This is no grocery store line up. Bisping has to fight his way up to the front. If he can beat a couple of those guys on the list (take out stann) then sure give him a shot.

Come on…UFC gave him Rivera and he cheated. Miller will be a virtual newbie….untested for a bit. Bisping is only there to bring UFC into Britain.

by sb905 on Oct 15, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Either way...

Stann got fucked up by Sonnen, he needs to re-evaluate himself…

Hendo was finished in the 2nd round of a 5 round fight…if anything he’s positioned himself to rematch Rampage, whom he went all 5 rounds with, not Silva…

Maia was in the ring with Silva for 5 rounds and couldn’t dooo shiit, so definitely not him…

Belfort…well…we all saw what happened…bottom line, Bisping is on a 3 fight win streak, about to be 4….I’m no fan of Bisping but he deserves the next shot if we look at the title picture with logic and sense…no one you mentioned is on a streak at MW…you might not like Bisping but Anderson deserves a fresh opponent after Sonnen, not someone he’s already given a drubbing to

by Starr788 on Oct 15, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

not an impressive win streak

Yep…Anderson owned them all but like I said this is not a line up. those guys stand a better chance than Bisping. Bisping has to earn.

Who out of this lot was near the top?
Spitzbing’s wins:

Big sexy….dropped to 170 because he can’t hang at 185
Rivera….Rivera! and Bisping took him out with illegal knee
Dan Miller….his record is 2-5 in his last 7

Mayhem…..UFC virtual newbie…..MAYBE Bisping wins.

Bisping has learned to walk, now he needs to show he can run with the big dogs before taking on THE BIG DOG. I don’t see him doing well but if he wants to try let him try.

I beat my kid brother and a few of his friends while bullying them. Can I have a title shot too Dana?

by sb905 on Oct 15, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bruh...

Championship fights aren’t made based on a challenger’s chances in comparison to past challengers…it’s made based on who is winning…those other dudes you mentioned had their chances and proved they couldn’t hang with THE BIG DOG at all…they can’t be used as a measuring stick…let Bisping get his chance to show if he can hang with THE BIG DOG or not

by Starr788 on Oct 15, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

in that case....

just about anyone in the 185 division (in any company) that has 3 straight wins that has not fought Silva deserves a shot.

You said he is on a winning streak but against who? You are not denying that he hasn’t fought top guys because you can’t.

To get a title shot one also has to also prove themselves against top guys. Bisping simply has not done so, period.

Have him win against a couple of guys on that list I put up and no doubt he is a contender. Until then he is just the pretender.

You can type all you want 3 win winstreak….I can’t see many supporting you on that.

by sb905 on Oct 15, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol...I bet you Bisping fights Silva if Silva beats Sonnen and Bisping beats Miller

I won’t deny that Bisping hasn’t been beating top guys…but beating Akiyama, or Jason Macdonald, or Jorge Santiago doesn’t exactly get you a title shot either…

I got no beef with you 905, but you make it seem like all the guys that have fought Silva already (or at least the guys you mentioned) had earned their shot by beating the best of the best and that is not the case the way you talk makes me thing you just don’t like Bisping, which makes you somewhat biased…besides, if Bisping beats Miller the timeline for a shot at the belt is perfect as Anderson will probably fight Chael in February

by Starr788 on Oct 15, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

who are you talking about????

I am glad that you acknowledged that he has not proven himself against any of the big dogs. So it puzzles me that you think he can jump over all of them to take a shot.

Bisping did some dirty things….but that is not factoring in. I like Belcher but I am not about to say that he deserves a title shot.

Akiyama, Macdonald, Santiago? Who deserved a shot after fighting those 3 guys?

I think you are now lost and back to that it is Bisping’s turn because he waited in line thing. Where do I line up?

.

by sb905 on Oct 15, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Yes, yes you are lost. What the heck to the 3 individual fights you mentioned have to do with anything? You are really grasping at straws…..it is hardly a debate anymore. I feel like Anderson Silva knocking a guy out in the second round.

  

by sb905 on Oct 15, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

MW is a barren waste land. Bisping has enough decent wins, and with a win over Miller, there’s literally no one else for Silva to fight at MW after Sonnen .

by p123 on Oct 16, 2011 4:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

We already know Bisping doesnt have the raw talent to beat Silva……I dont care if he beat 3 lesser fighters. What a waste of Silva’s last 4 fights Bisping would be. Unless of course you just want silva to beat up mediocre fighters that pose little to no threat before he retires.. Then Bisping’s your boy!

by folsomprison on Oct 15, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s staying at MW. Sonnen, Bisping, and a bunch of rematches are our only options here. Until Silva changes his stances, we are stuck with this. It is what it is.

by p123 on Oct 16, 2011 4:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unless I've missed something

I’m pretty sure Hendo is a permanent fixture at LHW isn’t he?

by donkeypunch on Oct 15, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

dangle....

dangle a 185 title shot with Silva in front of his face and he is at 185lbs in an instant.

by sb905 on Oct 15, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hendo is a man he would take the fight but we don’t want 185 Hendo.

by p123 on Oct 15, 2011 4:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hendo is too much of a god damn man to turn down a 185 fight with Silva. For his sake he should though, Hendo sucks at 185, and is a much better 205er. If it’s offered to him, he will take it though, he’s just a god damn man like that. Fucking Hendo man, god damn man.

by p123 on Oct 16, 2011 4:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

You forgot Munoz

i say he is ahead of bisping too

by soupdz28 on Oct 15, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Munoz and Silva are boys. They are not fighting. Haven’t you noticed Lil Nog and Silva actually have TDD since Munoz joined up with them. Munoz will never EVER fight Silva. So that’s out. If he black balls, Silva, which is a bad, bad idea , he will get murdered. Munoz is a terrible MMA wrestler, and his shot is terrible. Silva will retire soon, then he will get his chance.

by p123 on Oct 16, 2011 4:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

1) Sonnen
2) Henderson
3) Light Heavy Weight
4) TBD

by sb905 on Oct 15, 2011 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

silva & his camp don’t want to fight chael, he’s the only legit threat to Anderson going out on top and they know it. can u imagine silva is 1 year from retiring as possibly GOAT, and he gets owned by sonnen right at the end??? chael is the only guy with the nuts to do it and pull it off

by Phil Baloni on Oct 15, 2011 1:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Ironic you say he has the nuts to do it ...

"When swinging from nut-sack of the mighty "Quittin" Rampage Jackson, try to avoid getting his ball-sweat in your eyes….it tends to blind you from the obvious. Now, if I could just play a round of golf with my dream foursome of Chael Sonnen, Larry Merchant and Danago, I can die a happy man."

by wooly shambler on Oct 15, 2011 1:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

So...

his next four fights should comprise of two fights that he would have to move down (because GSP is not moving up) and the following would be Silva moving up (because Jon Jones is not moving down) all for what exactly?

To solidify his place not as the GOAT, but as GOD? Nonsense. To cater to a fickle group who sees something that they acknowledge as legendary and now they want their say in how they add to that legend. Why not have him move up after that to meet Cain or Brock Overeem as the forth challenge. Erase all doubt.

Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses. --The Knockout Mechanism.

by battlestar on Oct 15, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

*fourth challenge

Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses. --The Knockout Mechanism.

by battlestar on Oct 15, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

My opinion

Chael Sonnen
Dan Henderson (If he beats Shogun if he doesnt GSP)
GSP (If Henderson loses to Shogun he moves down to MW and fights a couple times then he’ll take GSP’s spot)
Jon Jones (For LHW title)

Now if Chael beasts him
Chael Sonnen
Michael Bisping (just to see Bisping get knocked the fuck out)
Chael Sonnen again
Jon Jones

by rscott94 on Oct 15, 2011 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

So Hendo beats Shogun and that qualifies him for a shot against Anderson? Really?

 Damn….maybe if Ben Henderson beats Guida that qualifies him for a shot against Aldo?

by Starr788 on Oct 15, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Hendo gets passed Shogun

so hopefully that fight will take care of that foolishness.

Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses. --The Knockout Mechanism.

by battlestar on Oct 15, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

*past

I’m just F****** up today.

Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses. --The Knockout Mechanism.

by battlestar on Oct 15, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hendo is a 185er

That often fights at 205. He might have to take a fight at 185 to qualify first.

by sb905 on Oct 15, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is not a 185er if he gases out at that weight.

1-0 Sig bets

One month sig bet with TheDragon on Cain vs. JDS
Cain Train ftw

by Armando Baez on Oct 15, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed Hendo is not a 85er.

by p123 on Oct 15, 2011 4:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Dana said if Hendo beats Shogun

The winner of Stann/Sonnen might have to wait because Hendo would get the shot

by rscott94 on Oct 15, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

lmao I'll pass

This was before Sonnen dominated Stann… It was on MMAJunkie though

by rscott94 on Oct 15, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course beating Shogun qualifies him to fight Anderson.. He beats Fedor and then Shogun! I’d like to see anderson fight Fedor and Shogun.. Those guys are alot tougher then Okami Jesus!

by folsomprison on Oct 15, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

4 more eh?

Sonnen
Hendo – 185 and that may not be possible.
Vitor if he keeps KO’ing his way back up… only if. And I love Belfort.
After that.. not sure who is really in line in the MW ranks.

If we can squeeze one more LHW fight out of him than realistically I would like to see him battle a guy like Alexander Gustoffson should he continue to win as well.

My dream pick:

Gokhan Saki. But that bugger refuses to drop down from HW.

"Crooked banks will gladly give a loan today, so when you miss a payment they can take your home away" - Lupe Fiasco.

by Bigger Zino on Oct 15, 2011 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Anderson would have a chance against the heavyweight champ

he’d prolly be the favorite lol.

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3-3
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by The Pride on Oct 15, 2011 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Sonnen, Bisping, GSP (if he wants to move up), and Leben (if he strings some more wins together)

He’s the 185 Champion and should fight his last four fights in his weight class.

1-0 Sig bets

One month sig bet with TheDragon on Cain vs. JDS
Cain Train ftw

by Armando Baez on Oct 15, 2011 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Not much talent in the division if Leban and Bisping are the fights he’s going to retire on. But I like the Sonnen Fight

by folsomprison on Oct 15, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give him Sonnen, Evans,Kos(if he has two mw fights under his belt by then),by his fourth fight there should be some prospect up the ranks to drop in there, maybe Fitch back at mw. I just want to see him lose, Kos or Fitch could dec him possibly in five. Fitch back up at mw would be interesting to see.

by Drew Berg on Oct 15, 2011 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d love to see Shogun get in great shape and come to 185 and challenge. He might as well because he isnt beating Jones.

by Dpez71 on Oct 15, 2011 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

One fight at a time

 The UFC/dana already stated the winner of Sonnen vs Stann would get the shot so lets just talk about who Silva’s next fight should be.

 To me there is only one option and thats Sonnen who just beat Stann who was on a great roll in the MW division and the only fighter in the UFC to win four rounds vs the Spider. We can talk future fights but things change when you start looking that far down the road as an example if Silva faces Sonnen and loses then what?

"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn

by Puck Head on Oct 15, 2011 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Chael Sonnen should be first

His win over Stan puts him up front in my books..

by folsomprison on Oct 15, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Franklin is not as good as Rampage or Shogun… He got beat by Machida before Anderson beat him……..and both those guys beat Machida

by folsomprison on Oct 15, 2011 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Page / Shogun are much more notable wins than Frankllin.

Silva’s biggest wins are Hendo , an 85 Hendo who isn’t as good as a 205 Hendo and Belfort followed by Franklin.

205 is just a sexier division.

by p123 on Oct 15, 2011 4:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I could live without

Seeing a Sonnen rematch. And GSP vs. Anderson will NEVER happen.

It's nice to be nice to the nice.

by RandyCouture'sDivorceLawyer on Oct 15, 2011 5:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Then not only are your Randy Couture’s Divorce Lawyer but you are also Anderson Silva’s Legacy Protector. Let that fucker fight that fucker who fucked him up . What the fuck.

by p123 on Oct 16, 2011 4:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Since we're being stupid...

Have him fight Randy Couture before he retires.

by Rorschak on Oct 15, 2011 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

no he should fight God

ill fight them all men,women,children ,retarded people it doesn't matter if you hit me were gonna fight -Charles "Krazyhorse" Bennett

by TigerTD on Oct 15, 2011 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

tired of anderson angling to fight hand-picked stylistic match-ups for him. he was shook/nervous about vitor’s speed and was circling away from vitor for their fight. he complained about okami. he fought some of the worst mma championship fights i’ve ever seen against leites, cote, and maia.

the guy is a joke. i could never watch anderson silva fight again and it would make no difference to me.

Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.

by theworldsoldestsport on Oct 15, 2011 11:56 PM EDT reply actions  

haha.

Ah.. Hahahhahaha

by theultimate on Oct 16, 2011 1:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Your a fucking idiot. He didn’t like the Vitor fight because Vitor is Brazilian. He evaded his blazing fast hands with ease, which was honestly disturbing that he could do that. He complains about every one he fights because he’s a prima donna ego tistical bitch , that murders every one, and he’s wacko crazy.

by p123 on Oct 16, 2011 4:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

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