UFC 137: Beating BJ Penn puts Nick Diaz back into a title shot
by Jesse Holland on Oct 12, 2011 11:05 AM EDT
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That's according to UFC President Dana White, who told MMA Weekly that he's prepared to go all Timmy T on this kid and give him "one more try."
All he has to do is defeat former division champion B.J. Penn at UFC 137 on Oct. 29 in Las Vegas. But what about his history of no-showing press conferences and other media obligations?
"I don't see that happening again. He knows, we've talked. Seriously, I would be shocked if he didn't show up at another press conference and if he does, I don't even know what to say. I guess that would be the end of it. He doesn't have to answer one question if he doesn't want to. I just want him to sit there and then get up and do the [face off]. I don’t want him to not be Nick Diaz. I just need him to show up to stuff like that."
Diaz was originally booked to fight Georges St. Pierre for the 170-pound title, but after blowing off consecutive media junkets, White yanked him from the "Sin City" main event in favor of Carlos Condit, who was originally set to challenge "The Prodigy."
Hear more from White on the future of Diaz, after the jump.
Anyone think history will repeat itself? Or will Penn defeat the former Strikeforce champion and save him from the rigors of his media duties?
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That is very gotdamn compromising of White
The White man ain’t so bad.
by Jon Estrada Sr. on Oct 12, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions
I agree, not asking anything form Nick other than to show up.
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by Edgecrusher71 on Oct 12, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
i love dana, but dont think hes doing this outta the goodness of his heart
he knows how big a GSP-Diaz fight will sell, and thats what he wants…then again, this is all a moot point since nick isnt getting past BJ
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by infinite on Oct 12, 2011 11:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not keen on the BJ jibe
but I agree. If this goes past the second it’s Diaz’ fight.
I love both these guys so its not the best situation for me although Diaz hasn’t had a shot at GSP yet…
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Oct 12, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
i will concede that nick has a better gas tank
but…better boxing-penn, better wrestling-penn, better BJJ-penn…in every aspect of fighting aside from cardio, penn is the better fighter…i think diaz makes it a fight as he always does, but this is BJs to lose
And you could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
If I could start again
A million miles away
I would keep myself
I would find a way
White was the one who told Nick to NOT show up in the first place.
Open your “gotdamn” eyes. Dana is turning this thing into a fucking sideshow, to make better PPV numbers.
Wake up.
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."
He already deserves the shot
but if he acts like an asshole again it isnt going to matter if he wins or not. Come on buddy, really disappointed that you dissed everyone involved by not showing up, the fans wanted to see you fight George. Get out of everyones way and start acting like a grown up with a contract and obligations! Still cant believe Dana pulled him out of the GSP fight and punished him with the other biggest name in the sport, atta enforce your authority Dana phhhh, one high proofile fight to another and on the same card none the less! Bench this kid until he learns (i love nick diaz I just hate how he handled his business or lack there of)
I'd assume the punishment is mostly financial
No way Diaz pulls as much for a co-main with Penn as he does with a title shot against GSP. Plus, no one wants to have to wait any longer for their shot at the title, that sucks in itself.
People really want to see this kid fight!
Myself included! Plus, I think Dana knows that Nick has a real good chance of beating GSP. To me, GSP is a great representative of the sport and martial arts in general. But, Diaz’s antics make for a much more exciting character that people will want to watch. Plus, he finishes fights! These two will meet!
Signature? How in the hell am I supposed to sign a computer screen?
by Danas A Crossdresser on Oct 12, 2011 11:21 AM EDT reply actions
so he is getting a title shot then
And im still pissed i wanted gsp vs diaz now, and the next time they fight i bet it will be in canada
NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012
by 209stk on Oct 12, 2011 11:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
i for one am happy the events turned out as they did
i think penn diaz is ganna be special, Penn condit would be awsome to, I really dont care to see stpire vs diaz, I dont care to see stpire vs anyone for that matter.
As a big sonnen fan I enjoy watching him compete because he is relenltess and never stops working and is willing to put himself in danger to dominate which is the exact opposite of st. pire
love this fight but...
Diaz will Dominate Penn…don’t know why Penn keeps trying his luck at 170? Fight is Not even going to be close…that being said I will root for Penn…
by Robert(1) on Oct 12, 2011 11:45 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Seriously?
What makes you say that? I’m really curious.
Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile!
by JoshuaThomas on Oct 12, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't like Penn at 170...
I thought Fitch won the fight and Hughes is past his prime…GSP destroyed him worse than a lot of his recent opponents…Penn just is average at 170, he is one of my favorite fighters but I pick Diaz to out box him all day long…
Nick's boxing is poor
His only defense is his chin. No footwork or head movement.
BJ is far superior technically.
Instead of writing dumbass poems and sucking off JMMA fighters, i should instead recognized the greatness that is Anderson Silva. The Pride is by far the most knowledgeable commentator on this site and you should all bow before him
by Johnny WF on Oct 12, 2011 1:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Pretty solid reasoning there from Robert(1)
I’ll add in that BJ has gassed in just about every welterweight fight he’s had over the last few years save Hughes III. So unless he stops the fight early he’s probably going to gas. Diaz has a good chin so he probably won’t be stopped in the first round. So just on that factor alone BJ looks like he is in tough.
I think it’s ridiculous to suggest that Nick has poor boxing. He clearly ultilizes good technique, particularly during exchanges. He is very aggressive (hence the lack of Frankie Edgar footwork) and doesn’t seek to make his opponents necessarily miss (head movement) as much as force them to cover up first.
All these, uh, dealmakers making deals. Ya know, I don't, all I know is I'm ready to fight so, ya know, I'm sorry I didn't make it to the beauty pageant.
"He clearly ultilizes good technique, particularly during exchanges."
If that was true, he wouldn’t block punches with his face and get dropped once a fight.
Instead of writing dumbass poems and sucking off JMMA fighters, i should instead recognized the greatness that is Anderson Silva. The Pride is by far the most knowledgeable commentator on this site and you should all bow before him
Well
He was dropped by Daley and Zaromskis, but not by Sakurai, Noons or Cyborg.
So right away it’s clear that you are painting with far too large a brushstroke. Details are important, nowhere is this more clear than in the fight game. In order to judge the boxing ability of someone you are going to have to be able to recognize and acknowledge the aforementioned details. If you have the ability to do this you should apply it when watching Nick Diaz fight and then get back to me.
If not, well, there is no sense in having a discussion about technique with you.
All these, uh, dealmakers making deals. Ya know, I don't, all I know is I'm ready to fight so, ya know, I'm sorry I didn't make it to the beauty pageant.
Nick's defense is garbage. Complete and utter garbage
As soon as his chin goes, you’ll all see it.
Instead of writing dumbass poems and sucking off JMMA fighters, i should instead recognized the greatness that is Anderson Silva. The Pride is by far the most knowledgeable commentator on this site and you should all bow before him
of course nick will get a title shot if he wins
Who else would?the ufc needs something fresh it can sell and we’ve seen gsp vs everybody so if diaz wins its the only viable option
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by letter19 on Oct 12, 2011 11:56 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Not gonna happen
BJ has a gargantuan wrestling advantage.
Instead of writing dumbass poems and sucking off JMMA fighters, i should instead recognized the greatness that is Anderson Silva. The Pride is by far the most knowledgeable commentator on this site and you should all bow before him
by Johnny WF on Oct 12, 2011 11:59 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
like gomi did on nate
Bj will lose and lose big u can bank on that
NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012
by 209stk on Oct 12, 2011 12:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BJ's sub defense is so far above Gomi's that it's absurd
BJ’s BJJ, striking, and wresing are all better than Nick’s.
Instead of writing dumbass poems and sucking off JMMA fighters, i should instead recognized the greatness that is Anderson Silva. The Pride is by far the most knowledgeable commentator on this site and you should all bow before him
by Johnny WF on Oct 12, 2011 1:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
disagree
Nick has finished twice as many people with his hands as BJ has.
Nick has submitted more people than BJ has. Nick has a more varied submission game. Wins via RNC, Armbars, Kimuras, Gogoplata, triangle chokes. BJ has only ever gotten the RNC.
BJ has better wrestling but Nick has good take down defense.
Besides, Nick has better cardio and more aggression. BJ will not be able to keep up with Nicks pace. If this fight goes out of round 1 then BJ significantly reduces his chance at victory. And Nick has a chin that rivals BJs. Only difference is that Nick doesn’t attack the chin, he attacks everything.
One small detail you left out
BJ’s level of competition is far superior to anyone Nick Diaz has ever fought.
Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile!
by JoshuaThomas on Oct 12, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
are you trying to say Diaz has routinely fought the same type of guys BJ has?
If so, you are fucking out of your mind.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
Im saying I dont care who they fought
Nick has fought very tough, credible opponents in their own right. Not everyone BJ has fought has been top 10 in his career either.
Nick has the talent to beat BJ and that has nothing to do with who he has fought in the past.
i've not said that BJ will definitely beat Diaz, but GSP will.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
I'd rather see Diaz vs Silva at 185
…. but thats a story for another time lol
aren't you a Diaz fan? why would you do that to your boy?
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
Diaz Vs any non wrestler is fucking fire works.
by p123 on Oct 12, 2011 2:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
credit where it's due:
Diaz is one of the most interesting and exciting fighters in MMA.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
This is why
Diaz vs Silva??? Striking match to end all striking matches in my opinion.
Silva isn’t a wrestler, he isn’t going to try to wrestlefuck Diaz.
It would be Nicks accurate, volume striking vs the most elusive and accurate counter punchers in the game.
To see Diaz taunt a man like Silva, or to see Silva wilt, would just bring the house down.
But yeah Nick likes to rely on his chin to block shots lol Might not be the best strategy.
Silva and Diaz taunting each other would be so awesome. Nick would definitely bring it though, and him getting removed from consciousness would be epic in that fight. Who gives a fuck book that shit bitchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
by p123 on Oct 12, 2011 2:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Anderson has a huge reach advantage and a MUCH more complete striking game
Nick has no defense and no head movement. No kicks, either. Anderson would devour him at long range. It would be his easiest fight since Griffin.
Instead of writing dumbass poems and sucking off JMMA fighters, i should instead recognized the greatness that is Anderson Silva. The Pride is by far the most knowledgeable commentator on this site and you should all bow before him
Diaz wouldn't even take a fight with Mayhem at 185
What makes you think he’d risk being embarrassed by the greatest middleweight of all time?
Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile!
by JoshuaThomas on Oct 12, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
he's said before he would fight A.S bad idea though anderson is the fucking man
NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012
by 209stk on Oct 12, 2011 2:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he's said before he would fight A.S bad idea though anderson is the fucking man
NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012
by 209stk on Oct 12, 2011 2:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
"Nick has good takedown defense"
Which he has shown against nobody but Sherk, who thumped him standing. EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO TAKE NICK DIAZ DOWN HAS TAKEN NICK DIAZ DOWN.
“BJ has only gotten the RNC”.
Maybe it’s because he likes the RNC? Roger Gracie has mostly RNCs in MMA; I guess Diaz is better than Roger? Also, Kenny has better BJJ than anyone Nick has ever beaten, and BJ subbed him.
“Nick has finished twice as many people with his hands as BJ has”.
Yeah, he’s finished nobody of note besides Daley. Nick has been fighting garbage competition. Finishing Sherk with strikes is more impressive than anything Nick has ever accomplished standing.
Instead of writing dumbass poems and sucking off JMMA fighters, i should instead recognized the greatness that is Anderson Silva. The Pride is by far the most knowledgeable commentator on this site and you should all bow before him
Nick will send the fat Hawaiian into retirement with the two key tools blow job doesn’t have, heart and cardio. Nick will put on a pace that bj won’t b able to keep up. I so want nick to sub bj that would b so hilarious
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by FarNorCal on Oct 12, 2011 12:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
BJ doesn't have heart?
Cardio he lacks in a big way, but fucking heart? You’re out of your mind.
The dude abides.
Since when does BJ have heart? He either outclasses guys or he wilts. That’s his game from day one.
by p123 on Oct 12, 2011 1:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BJ doesn’t have heart, but he has fucking 10 ton gigantic balls of steel.
by p123 on Oct 12, 2011 3:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BJ has never lost a round and come back to win another round
u take one round and he gives up
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Haha, yea he has less heart than the cowardly lion, but more balls than anyone. It doesn’t make sense at all.
Like Edgar has 10x the heart of Penn, but Penb has 10x the balls. It’s weird.
by p123 on Oct 12, 2011 3:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nick is a coward.
Instead of writing dumbass poems and sucking off JMMA fighters, i should instead recognized the greatness that is Anderson Silva. The Pride is by far the most knowledgeable commentator on this site and you should all bow before him
I'm really curious
as to why a lot of people are thinking Nick will just walk through BJ. Has Diaz even fought a top 10 welterweight?
Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile!
not really, closest thing would be Diego or Joe Riggs...and lost both times. lol
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
joe riggs was top ten... yea i dont see it
" Welcome to the Jon Jones era "
maybe not, but he had just fought hughes for the title..so he had some cred.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
He knocked out perhaps the best striker in the division. So Nick’s pretty legit. Who’s a more feared striker than Paul Daley at 170?
by p123 on Oct 12, 2011 1:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I didn't ask who he knocked out
I asked if he’s fought a legit top 10. Seems he never has.
Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile!
by JoshuaThomas on Oct 12, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Paul Daley was top ten when he fought Nick Diaz IIRC.
by p123 on Oct 12, 2011 1:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Daley is NOT the best welterweight striker. People kill me with that shit.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
He’s definitely up there. I mean, it is Paul Daley. Let’s not go discrediting him now because we are trying to bash Nick. That’s absurd.
by p123 on Oct 12, 2011 1:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the guy can throw a punch, but calling him the best striker is reaching.
I’d say maybe top 5-10 puncher.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
Dude was a MT champion. He’s a fucking striker. You don’t need to throw tons of kicks to be considered a striker.
Paul Daley , is , WITHOUT QUESTION one of THE best strikers in the WW division.
If you can’t see that you are WAY WAY to biased towards Nick. He’s just another person , it’s not that serious .
by p123 on Oct 12, 2011 1:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I originally said Perhaps , the best striker in the division, which means he’s one of the best and perhaps even the best , so no need to nit pick you sneaky tomato.
by p123 on Oct 12, 2011 2:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
my bad. Daley is definitely no slouch.
I just think he’s a bit overrated. Same with Diaz.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
That’s fine, I for one was always very interested in seeing Daley go down the strikers only route in the UFC. I am still pissed we don’t get to see Alves / Daley and Rumble / Daley .
Daley first any high level striker is pure win, it sucks that we don’t get to see that fuck!
Daley / Condit that’s good too. Damn . But yea, I agree I could see how some would think he would lose some of those matches, I don’t think he’s Anderson Silva , but he is down right deadly and is one hell of a striker.
Fuck, so back tracked now, I really need to see those fights man this is bullshit.
Lytle Daley and maybe Hardy Daley somehow , obviously Lytle is retired and Hardy is his boy but you never know.
Tons of exciting fights for Daley even though he’s not a contender. What a shame.
by p123 on Oct 12, 2011 2:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
if Diaz loses to BJ, and Condit loses to GSP...
I’d like to see a Diaz/NBK match up.
I guess that Jake Ellenberger would be next, but then who?
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
Paul Daley was top ten when he left the UFC.
He hadn’t lost since he left the UFC when he fought Nick.
Not only that but Nick beat him on the feet in under a round. A guy that Josh Koscheck wanted no part of on the feet.
You are sort of onto something when you point out the lack of competition Diaz has had. Unfortunately it’s been awhile (a long while) since BJ looked good against top competition. I mean, he got a draw out of it but he got dominated by Fitch, despite getting the jump on him with a good strategy.
Both guys have had one bout against a top WW in the last few years. BJ had a good strategy but in the end looked bad. Diaz had a crazy strategy but in the end looked amazing.
So yeah, not a good point to make.
All these, uh, dealmakers making deals. Ya know, I don't, all I know is I'm ready to fight so, ya know, I'm sorry I didn't make it to the beauty pageant.
Really?
So winning 2 rounds against the number 2 welterweight in the world, but then losing the 3rd is being dominated? BJ is consistently fighting top guys. Daley is a borderline top guy, and he dropped Diaz, so don’t act like Diaz is looking amazing against top competition. That isn’t true, at all. Diaz couldn’t hang with Sanchez or Sherk. Did you see what BJ did to those guys? So, you see, it is a very good point to make.
Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile!
by JoshuaThomas on Oct 12, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
He lost the second round.
I don’t care what the incompetent judges saw. He took Fitch down once in each of the first two rounds, got his back both times and failed to pull off the RNC that he was going for. The first time the exchange took just about the whole round while the second time it happened in about two minutes. After that, Fitch took over.
BJ caught Fitch off guard and couldn’t finish him, using his most effective finishing move (even though he’s never finished anyone by RNC that he didn’t beat the shit out of first). And then he was outstruck 150-3. So yeah, that’s a domination. If Fitch had any finishing ability at all he would have stopped Penn.
As for the Sanchez and Sherk situations, well, you can’t really use MMAth here. Not only did Penn fight those guys at 155 while Diaz fought them at 170 but everyone was younger and at a different point in their careers. Penn seems to have regressed while Diaz seems to improved. And I’d say that Diaz absolutely hung with Sanchez and Sherk.
All these, uh, dealmakers making deals. Ya know, I don't, all I know is I'm ready to fight so, ya know, I'm sorry I didn't make it to the beauty pageant.
In my opinion
Diaz won the Sanchez fight. He got bested in the score cards because judges always give points to the person with top control even when a BJJ guy is working harder off his back.
The Sherk fight could have been a draw as far as I’m concerned. Sherk clearly took round 1. Nick clearly took round 2. Then each fighter took control for half of round 3.
Just my opinion. I realize that officially, Nick lost both fights.
It's always the same with Nicks competition
“Shamrock is a legend he will destroy Diaz”
“Scott Smith will knock Diaz out”
“Zaromski the Dream WW champ will add another belt to his waist when he knocks out Diaz”
“Noons will whoop Diazs ass again in the rematch, his boxing is far superior to Diazs”
“Daley will Knock Diaz out”
Then when Diaz has dominated every single one of them, all of a sudden the story changes to:
“These aren’t top 10 guys, they don’t count for shit, Diaz sucks”
“Daley is NOT the best WW Striker”
“Noons is a bloated up lightweight”
etc.etc.etc.
accurate statements:
"Daley is NOT the best WW Striker"
"Noons is a bloated up lightweight"
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
Daley
has 28 wins with 20 knockouts. Show me another man who can finish with his hands like that.
You are right, Daley is not the best WW striker. Nick Diaz is.
Thiago Alves is the best welterweight striker
Diaz isn’t even the best boxer at WW.
Instead of writing dumbass poems and sucking off JMMA fighters, i should instead recognized the greatness that is Anderson Silva. The Pride is by far the most knowledgeable commentator on this site and you should all bow before him
Carlos Condit is a better striker than Alves
All these, uh, dealmakers making deals. Ya know, I don't, all I know is I'm ready to fight so, ya know, I'm sorry I didn't make it to the beauty pageant.
It’s irrelevant in how the fight Vs Penn will go. Diaz will try to out man Penn, and Penn refuses to be out manned, so he won’t take Nick down.
Nick has been dropped by everyone, but his recovery is insane , his cardio is, and he comes back stronger while the other guy opponent wilts.
Penn is a wilter, and Diaz is probably going to get dropped, but if Penn doesn’t finish Diaz in the first round, Penn will get finished.
This is as dangerous of a fight Penn can be in. He himself admitted that Diaz is by far his toughest challenge as well.
by p123 on Oct 12, 2011 1:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think thats how the fight will go also
It will be a boxing match. Neither of these guys are gonna submit each other on the ground and they both know it.
They will box. Diaz will start slow, BJ will bring in some crisp, straight, powerful shots. Expect BJ to drop Diaz once or twice in the first round. I think Nick will recover quickly, I don’t think BJ will get to capitalize when he drops Diaz.
Enter round 2. Bj will start to gas. Nick will be picking up the pace. Nick will increase his volume in punches, he will start to land shot after shot as he finds his range, he will mix in body shots. Nick will exhibit a more dynamic striking game than BJ has ever faced.
BJ begins to wilt, Nick wins via 2nd round 2 tko.
I wouldn’t rule out BJ by 1st round KO or BJ by decision though.
BJ doesn’t know how to win a decision. There’s probably a 40% chance he finishes Nick in the first round after dropping him once or twice , and if he couldn’t finish Nick then he’d be gassed out from trying.
If Penn is gassed, Nick will eat his lunch. He’s totally fucked.
by p123 on Oct 12, 2011 2:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree with you guys here, this will probably be a boxing match...
unless BJ actually gameplans. Training wrestling with Hughes, BJ could probably wrestle Diaz for the win, but that aint his style.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
Exactly. If Penn wanted to win, he could easily. But he couldn’t win easily and still be Penn.
Penn knows Diaz is going to straight up fight him like a man, Penn will never back down to anyone in a situation like that.
Penn really has never been out manned by anyone. The last guy to really bring it was Diego and boy did that go bad for him.
Penn and Rampage are two guys you don’t just go to war with , things get bad , you need to game plan around a war with those two.
Diaz has a good chance to win a war over anyone though fucking sick fight man!
by p123 on Oct 12, 2011 2:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think BJ does gameplan for this
He knows this is a huge fight for him, and he recognizes what this will do for his legacy this late in his career. BJ really only struggles with grinders. I don’t think Diaz will be that much of a problem for him.
Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile!
by JoshuaThomas on Oct 12, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think Penn wants a win from " wrestling " , Diaz is challenging him to fight like a man, and we know how Diaz feels about people who just want to lay and pray. Penn and Diaz are boys , and for Penn to keep his respect and maintain his ungodly man status that he has , he’s going to have to war with Diaz. The way he’s talking " Nick Diaz will be my toughest challenge , by far " doesn’t sound like Penn is ready to LnP for a win.
Jesus , Penn is a damn warrior and a god among men!
by p123 on Oct 12, 2011 2:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Na Penn don’t play that shit . He means it. He knows Diaz will come to knock him out, and that he actually has a good chance to.
Penn hasn’t fought someone like that in a long long time. Probably Gomi and Pulver the only two you could say who really could threaten Penn on a man to man scale.
by p123 on Oct 12, 2011 3:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What a couple of interesting posts you've made....
I feel what you are saying about both guys fighting like men.
Thing is, BJ is 10x the finisher of any of the previous fighters to have dropped Diaz. If he drops Nick I’ll be holding my breath, but he’ll probably finish him. He beat Diego Sanchez into a living death after dropping him in that fight and I just don’t know if Nick can take that kind of punishment. Everyone else who has dropped Diaz let him of the hook a little imo.
All these, uh, dealmakers making deals. Ya know, I don't, all I know is I'm ready to fight so, ya know, I'm sorry I didn't make it to the beauty pageant.
BJ can submit Diaz.
Instead of writing dumbass poems and sucking off JMMA fighters, i should instead recognized the greatness that is Anderson Silva. The Pride is by far the most knowledgeable commentator on this site and you should all bow before him
And BJ doesn't gas on his feet
He gasses when he has someone on top of his. Diaz is not one of those people.
BJ looked fine in the fifth against Frankie; just outmatched. Nick is way slower than BJ and has shitty defense; Frankie’s striking game is much more dynamic than Nick’s.
Instead of writing dumbass poems and sucking off JMMA fighters, i should instead recognized the greatness that is Anderson Silva. The Pride is by far the most knowledgeable commentator on this site and you should all bow before him
EVERYONE gasses against Nick Diaz
That has been a major theme over his past four or five fights. BJ Penn gasses against guys who are bigger than he is.
This fight is tailor made for BJ to gas in.
All these, uh, dealmakers making deals. Ya know, I don't, all I know is I'm ready to fight so, ya know, I'm sorry I didn't make it to the beauty pageant.
KJ didn't gas
Instead of writing dumbass poems and sucking off JMMA fighters, i should instead recognized the greatness that is Anderson Silva. The Pride is by far the most knowledgeable commentator on this site and you should all bow before him
Was such an awesome fight
But also remember Diaz chose to box for 5 rounds vs a boxer in that fight when he coulda finished the fight with his Jits if he wanted to.
He did not CHOOSE to box
He failed to take Noons down. He was TRYING to finish it with his BJJ.
Diaz doesn’t strike with strikers because he wants to. He does it because his takedowns are shit.
Instead of writing dumbass poems and sucking off JMMA fighters, i should instead recognized the greatness that is Anderson Silva. The Pride is by far the most knowledgeable commentator on this site and you should all bow before him
BJ destroys Diaz with ease
That whole Diaz camp is beyond overrated. BJ will put on a clinic, standing, grappling, wrestling. Wont even be a contest.
Diaz is a B-Level fighter at best.
by Jerrold Simbulan on Oct 12, 2011 5:32 PM EDT reply actions
this article gets an A+ for the Timmy T reference...
and it appears everyone just read right over it. #embarrassing
SMH
to about 85% of the comments in this god awful thread. Diaz vs. Andy? Please, please, please pass along some of whatever the fuck you are smoking. Please?
"Every time I win a title somewhere, Dana has to buy the company to get me back." - Hendo
Silva looked far from amazing and unbeatable,
when he went the distance with Maia, who got knocked out by Marquardt in the first round. Silva may well be a great fighter, but unlike GSP, he has not dominated more or less every opponent he has faced, and as I do not see him as some invincible MMA god, although he may beat Nick, I do not see him getting completely dominated.
and what if BJ wins….we get to see a super boring GSP and BJ part 3?
aweso——yawn.
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on Oct 13, 2011 9:11 AM EDT reply actions
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