Forrest Griffin is just as good as Rich Franklin -- at everything
by Geno Mrosko on Jan 9, 2011 3:57 PM EST
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Quoteworthy:
"Since 2001, I haven't gone a year without a win, at least a win, you know in a year. Now I've gone a whole year without a fight. ... Me and Rich are kind of the same; we're jacks of all trades, master of none. One thing he's done better than me -- oftentimes he's put the fight where he's better than his opponent, whereas a lot of times I think, 'I'm pretty good at this, I can do this, I can do that,' so I just do whatever my opponent wants me to thinking, 'I'm good enough at this,' as opposed to taking them out of their strong suit. With Rich, it's not really... it doesn't really matter because we're both pretty good at everything."
The prevailing theme in the co-main event clash at UFC 126: "Silva vs Belfort" between Forrest Griffin and Rich Franklin is that both fighters are well-rounded and match-up extremely well with each other. We've heard it from "Ace" and now Griffin is furthering that narrative as well. The former light heavyweight champion, as similar to Franklin as he may be, will have to deal with something his counterpart will not -- a layoff of over a year. His fight with "Ace" will also represent the sixth consecutive fight Griffin has had against either a current or former champion spanning two separate weight classes. Over that span, the Xtreme Couture product has gone 3-2. Who thinks he will make it 4-2?
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I agree.
This is one hell of a tough match to predict. They’re so evenly matched everywhere, this could likely come down to who wants it that little bit more. I see a split decision (or close UD) in their future.
wow quick change of picture!
hard fight to call Franklin is a solid fighter but ive always said hes an a minus or b plus fighter whichever way you look at it.Whenever hes stepped up to elite level hes lost.Hes an allrounder like Marquadt but mentally tougher.As for Griffin,what can you say,that post fight chat with Rogan said it all"i’m not great at anything but im a dog and will fight anyone".The layoff could hurt him but Ace isnt gonna stop im so im going for “another moan at the judges” controversial split decision.
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
forrest is average at best in everything...he has heart tho...
I see Franklin as being a few notches above Forrest standing and on the ground!
This is Franklins fight to lose!
I AGREE
They r evenly matched but i think Ace has KO power & can ko forrest. When is the last time forrest Knocked somebody out.
Tough fight to call but I gotta go with Forrest
Love both fighters though but I think Forrest’s size and strength just might come into play here.
only major advantage forrest has is his size..
aside from that rich does everything a little better..
biggest weakness forrest has though is his soft chin..second worst chin maybe next to Arlovski…
soft chin ive never got this
as stopped him with some precision punching right on the button and sardine and shad stopped him with brutal gnp.Hes took shots of shogun,page and blocked all bonnars offence with his head.
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
yeah i dont think Forrest has a soft chin necessarily
the jardine TKO is a bit embarrassing, but he just got caught there. took AS shots pretty well and to his credit kept coming forward, even if it wasnt the best thing to do. At least he didn’t just cower and shoot for takedowns for the rest of the fight. he literally went down swinging. he was outstriking Jardine and Rashad ont he feet too in those fights, plus like Scott said, took Rampage’s and Shogun’s shots (regardless of injuries or whatever at time)
Rich is riding off a KO of Chuck, and was impressive in stayin in the pocket and keeping his composure against a “resurgent” chuck. I expect this to be a decision, hopefully with Rich winning.
"That fight was like just waiting with tension for the pitbull to rip apart the bunny....
then all of a sudden the bunny turns into fucking bear and fucks up everyone’s moneylines and parlays.." -NNR
Late Takedown FTW
lol
which fights is your sig talking about?
Eating ice cream when you're not high is a waste of good ice cream.
by SOHOWABOUTTHEMFATCHICKS on Jan 10, 2011 2:14 AM EST up reply actions
FIGHT**
Eating ice cream when you're not high is a waste of good ice cream.
by SOHOWABOUTTHEMFATCHICKS on Jan 10, 2011 2:15 AM EST up reply actions
Lawler vs Manhoef
"That fight was like just waiting with tension for the pitbull to rip apart the bunny....
then all of a sudden the bunny turns into fucking bear and fucks up everyone’s moneylines and parlays.." -NNR
Late Takedown FTW
Rich easy
rich stand up is way better then forrest and rich has more power in his hand then pillow fist forrest
Sonnen Hows the McDonald's Black belt ?
Know what would make this headline even more awesome? If Forrest had actually said anything that resembles it.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
Headline: Forrest Griffin is just as good as Rich Franklin -- at everything
we’re both pretty good at everything
That’s sounds the same to me.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character
-Tom Wolf
Me too.
MichaelD8 is right though, I do have fun with them. This job would suck if I treated it like some people would like me to.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
MMA Mania
You do seem to put in the hours.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character
-Tom Wolf
exactly
I kept looking for that quote…nope. Anyways, it got me reading the post.
Im going Ace via unanimous dec. Like em both, hard to root against either.
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
by Jrandolph on Jan 10, 2011 2:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm gonna take Rich
Both of these fighters seem equal to me but I think Rich has better and more powerful striking
This fight dont mean shit. It's nothing more than a filler fight.
Forrest should have never been in a title fight and Rich cant hang with the 205 elite
I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy..It does NOT matter who wins the Brock vs Cain fight because they are simply baby sitting the belt for Junior.
#1 Quinton Rampage the Dragon Slayer Jackson fan for LIFE..FTW!!!
A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic."
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his"
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Rich can't hang with 205 elite?
You know this how?? I’m not saying your wrong but isn’t this something we have to wait and see on?
by xElder on Jan 9, 2011 5:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
well first off, he could hang with one elite fighter at 185 with AS.
Belfort made it look like cake,Rich probably only walks around at bout 210 or 215 at best…so he is to small as well…just my opinion
I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy..It does NOT matter who wins the Brock vs Cain fight because they are simply baby sitting the belt for Junior.
#1 Quinton Rampage the Dragon Slayer Jackson fan for LIFE..FTW!!!
A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic."
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his"
...
^ he couldnt hang ^
I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy..It does NOT matter who wins the Brock vs Cain fight because they are simply baby sitting the belt for Junior.
#1 Quinton Rampage the Dragon Slayer Jackson fan for LIFE..FTW!!!
A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic."
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his"
...
besides Sonnen, has ANYONE been able to "hang" with Silva?
no. weak arguement. He whooped everyone at 185 before and after Anderson. Vitor caught him, but it wasn’t much a fight. “Vitor made it look like cake” dude, vitor exploded, clipped rich behind the ear, and landed one clean shot to the chin. Rich is top 10 mw or lhw.
"That fight was like just waiting with tension for the pitbull to rip apart the bunny....
then all of a sudden the bunny turns into fucking bear and fucks up everyone’s moneylines and parlays.." -NNR
Late Takedown FTW
that was a Bad Post Big
im not sure how you came up with that Ace cant hang with the big boys. And I thought to myself when i heard of this fight wow. what mma fan wouldnt want to see this match up.
With the win over the legend Matt Hughes the gates are slowly being greased. Soon it will be time to open the Shit gates once again.
I didnt say it wasnt gonna be a good scrap..Im saying its a filler fight.
It dont mean shit either way,just names to get buys..nothing more
I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy..It does NOT matter who wins the Brock vs Cain fight because they are simply baby sitting the belt for Junior.
#1 Quinton Rampage the Dragon Slayer Jackson fan for LIFE..FTW!!!
A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic."
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his"
...
2 ex champions that never give up . They are never boring. Sounds like fun to me
not every fight is for the belt or for the right to fight for thebelt. This one is for the fans. Dude just sit back and enjoy it no need to pick at it or bitch about it.
With the win over the legend Matt Hughes the gates are slowly being greased. Soon it will be time to open the Shit gates once again.
DUDE..I aint bitching! Just simply stating facts.
I just saying that ppl will buy it like the fucktards that think Forrest is acutally a good fighter. I know it will be a good fight, Probably a ko highlite for Rich. just sayin
I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy..It does NOT matter who wins the Brock vs Cain fight because they are simply baby sitting the belt for Junior.
#1 Quinton Rampage the Dragon Slayer Jackson fan for LIFE..FTW!!!
A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic."
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his"
...
Yeah that Forrest Griffin sucks he’s never beaten anyone good like Shogun or Rampage gtfoh with that bs. This is a great fight between 2 guys who are still top fighters, I expect a certain ammount of ignorance from mma fans but you’ve reached a new low with your comments.
"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
-Joe Budden (Something To Ride To)
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by Nightwhistler on Jan 10, 2011 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
2 ex champions that never give up
Hell yeah! Most of those fights end up with one the ex champions simply giving up.
That wasn’t intended for you personally BJPennfan, I am just adjusting my artillery fire on the Shit gates. We gotta be ready for the onslaught to come out of it the minute Penn knocks Fitch out. They’re gonna be wild.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character
-Tom Wolf
I want BJ/Fitch to be a draw...
Then they will have to fight each other again, and I don’t have to hear either of them bitch about why they have been passed over for another fight with GSP.
JB JB JB JB!! (For all the bass ackwards BJ Penn fans that actually think he will not get blanketed by Fitch.)
The shit war is coming i can hear the shit winds starting to blow
You missed a great battle the other day Yan
With the win over the legend Matt Hughes the gates are slowly being greased. Soon it will be time to open the Shit gates once again.
Well
Considering Forrest WON his title fight i dont think you can doubt him. And who cares? It’s going to be an awesome fight to watch, and honestly I think rich can take most the guys at 205. Can he earn a title shot? Probably not. But I feel he will atleast make his presence known at 205
by soupdz28 on Jan 10, 2011 3:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
better than not being able to bust a nut...
JB JB JB JB!! (For all the bass ackwards BJ Penn fans that actually think he will not get blanketed by Fitch.)
I expect something like this
We’ll just see who executes crisper come fight night and see how well they are directed by their respective corners.
"That little fucker hit me with a Hadukan or something" – Nick Diaz on Gomi
"You should study Pokemon to get stronger." - Sakuraba
"A champion is someone who sweats to exhaustion, even when no one else is watching." -Bas Rutten
Whats up with the headline?
Come on now Mania don’t start misleading us with a headline that has nothing to do with the content. Forrest didn’t say that. This site and mmajunkie are the only good ones left. Cagepotato sucks ass now that the funny Ben left and the other Ben just uses the site to bash and belittle Christians and Jesus every chance he gets and to get across his political views that no one gives a crap about.
I like both of these guys
I don’t even know who to root for!
It seems to me that Rich has the more powerful strikes. His body kicks and striking in general are pretty solid.
Forrest probably has the advantage on the ground but I don’t think this one is going to the ground :)
Can’t wait for this one!
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said aarg" – GSP
“His fight with “Ace” will also represent the sixth consecutive fight Griffin has had against either a current or former champion spanning two separate weight classes."
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Amazing stat. He’s only fought killers for the last few years. Well, outside of ’09 Titio
by John Danaher's Hair on Jan 10, 2011 12:10 AM EST reply actions
Is that really true?
How long ago was the jardine fight?
by soupdz28 on Jan 10, 2011 3:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Really tough fight to call...
Like Forrest said, they’re both good at everything, but not particularly great at anything.
Two factors come into this though that could be the decider: Forrest’s size vs Rich’s KO power.
Both are good tools, but I’d say good KO power trumps superior size every time. And Forrest has been KO’d before…
Rich by TKO.
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