Brandon Vera cut by the UFC following Jan. 1 loss to Thiago Silva
by Jesse Holland on Jan 6, 2011 10:41 AM EST
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Three strikes, you're out.
Brandon Vera has been released from his Zuffa contract following his third straight loss inside the Octagon, a UFC 125: "Resolution" unanimous decision defeat to Brazilian wrecking ball Thiago Silva back on Jan. 1 in Las Vegas.
Five Ounces of Pain brought word of the light heavyweight's expected release earlier today.
Vera, whose 2008 goal was to unify the heavyweight and light heavyweight titles, saw his career take a nosedive after a messy contract dispute (here and here) followed by a unanimous decision loss to former division champion Tim Sylvia.
His bout against "The Maine-iac" was for the right to face PRIDE legend Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira for the Interim heavyweight title.
In defeat, the first of his career, he was sent to the back of the line, eventually settling on another stiff test when he was booked to face Fabricio Werdum at UFC 85: "Bedlam."
"The Truth" is, it did not end well for Vera, who was stopped via technical knockout in round one.
Like most fighters who begin to struggle inside their division, the Filipino shed a few pounds to try his luck at light heavyweight.
Despite initial success against Reese Andy and Michael Patt (sandwiched around a razor-thin split decision loss to Keith Jardine), Vera would see his momentum from a UFC 102 win against Krzysztof Soszynski go by the wayside against Randy Couture at UFC 105 in November 2009.
His next two losses would be the last of his UFC career, as both Jon Jones and fellow light heavyweight contender Thiago Silva dominated him in their respective bouts.
Talent, potential and plenty of trash talk. Unfortunately Vera didn't have the wins to back them up.
Now "The Truth" will likely be found competing in smaller promotions, following a lengthy layoff to have his broken nose repaired courtesy of a Thiago Silva mauling back on New Year's Day.
Anyone think he can somehow work his way back to the big show?
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Finally
I think others would have been cut sooner. For some reason the UFC has some affection for Vera. Apparently not too much affection, lol.
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Jan 6, 2011 10:43 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
If he can get his head on straight
He could be a contender in SF. He kinda reminds me of Vitor, all the talent in the world, but his worst enemy is his own state of mind.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
strikeforce can have all the UFC fighters that get cut , crap falls down hill ..
danago - "I’d rip Aldo a new octagon if he ever tested me. I’d smash that kid up, I’m on a different level for sure. Id axe kick his dome.."
He will get demolished in the Strikeforce LHW division as well
I don’t see him beating any of the below so I doubt Strikeforce will sign him. Maybe he would fit better into a Bellator Tourney or fight other lame UFC hyped guys like Jardine in Puerto Rico.
Cavalcante
King Mo
Dan Henderson
Babalu
Mousasi
Mike Kyle
he could take renato
the others would end vera violently
I don't know if you're serious vhw...
He will destroy everyone there except Henderson. King Mo will be put to sleep and Gay-hard Mousasi would be hitting the canvas once he trades with Vera. Don’t even bring Mike Kyle and Cavalcante in the conversation.
Thanks to Adelaide Byrd and Tony Weeks, Webster has a new word for highway robbery -- "Nam Phan."
He had a name and the below average fan knew his name and what he looked like for some reason
Just look at how much they paid him, they only do that if you bring people in to the show, not based on how good you are.
by Edgecrusher71 on Jan 6, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
i think its more of his ethnicity. Hes Filipino decent so Zuffa is hoping to cash the Filipino market by tapping the fans of Paquio..shame though he didnt live thru the hype…
I can see some of that
I think what really happened is he got a LOT of hype being in the HW division and beating Mir and then he just seemed small and everyone thought he would DESTROY in the LHW division and we all know how that story goes lol.
by Edgecrusher71 on Jan 6, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
What a fall from grace.....
I’m trying to decide if he was ever really that good, or was it just overhype from the beginning?
"Oh hell son, i was high that day. That doesn't make any sense at all, you can be second, third, fourth....hell, you can even be fifth" - Reese Bobby
Agreed, he was good just like I think Jardine was good but 2 things happened
Competition got better and they started thinking to much while fighting. For some guys that is good but for the two mentioned before, not so much.
by Edgecrusher71 on Jan 6, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
Feed Kongo to Brock or Junior then we can say goodbye to the UFC’s other most overpaid and overrated fighter. Both Kongo and Vera are a waste of space and I’m glad to see them gone.
"There's a few very good judges surrounded by a bunch of incompetent morons, who know nothing about the sport. They need to do something about that, because it's ruining MMA. It's making people think that this sport is corrupt. It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer and total incompetence."
Joe Rogan speaking the truth. Sort the judging out now.
+1
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said aarg" – GSP
by hairybumcrack on Jan 6, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
I bet kongo would knock brock tfo. kongo has a shit load of heart and i dont think brock would finish him and I think kongo would knock brock out at the begining of one of the rounds
The Red Wings will come back stronger
RESTORE THE ROAR 2010 Detroit Lions
Kongo showed tonnes of heart when he lay on his back doing nothing against Marrero, Silva, Herring and Cain
Not to mention when he resorted to groin strikes and short pulling against Browne and Cro Cop. Cracking fighter that Kongo and he always KOs wrestlers.
"There's a few very good judges surrounded by a bunch of incompetent morons, who know nothing about the sport. They need to do something about that, because it's ruining MMA. It's making people think that this sport is corrupt. It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer and total incompetence."
Joe Rogan speaking the truth. Sort the judging out now.
if you saw kongo doesnt have heart go watch the cain fight against. the guy got punched like 400 times or sum shit
The Red Wings will come back stronger
RESTORE THE ROAR 2010 Detroit Lions
He just lay on his back throughout the fight, he didn't even try to get back to his feet
He may not have tapped to strikes but he might as well have quit because he gave up as soon as he got taken down despite having Cain in trouble.
"There's a few very good judges surrounded by a bunch of incompetent morons, who know nothing about the sport. They need to do something about that, because it's ruining MMA. It's making people think that this sport is corrupt. It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer and total incompetence."
Joe Rogan speaking the truth. Sort the judging out now.
huh?
isn’t Brock the UFCs most overpaid and overrated fighter?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
At least Brock draws and won a title
Vera did none of those things.
"There's a few very good judges surrounded by a bunch of incompetent morons, who know nothing about the sport. They need to do something about that, because it's ruining MMA. It's making people think that this sport is corrupt. It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer and total incompetence."
Joe Rogan speaking the truth. Sort the judging out now.
Oh hey, I'm not defending Vera!!!
I’ve been calling for his termination for a long time now lol.
By the way, Kimbo is a draw too and would have won a title if Dana gave him an easy match.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
is marcus davis next?
On february 5th 2011 at UFC 126 Jon "Bones" Jones will show the world that their was no need for the MMA community to hype this man because this guy is a beast with many skills and i personally will feel Ryan "Darth" Bader's pain after this fight. SB Nation's public enemy #1.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jan 6, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully
"There's a few very good judges surrounded by a bunch of incompetent morons, who know nothing about the sport. They need to do something about that, because it's ruining MMA. It's making people think that this sport is corrupt. It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer and total incompetence."
Joe Rogan speaking the truth. Sort the judging out now.
the ufc is becoming very cutthroat.
baroni, mckee and vera and maybe marcus davis. not that the other three did not deserve it but you better fight for your life or at least entertain the fans. DW and company making these guys fight. this is what i want to see. brutal fights.
On february 5th 2011 at UFC 126 Jon "Bones" Jones will show the world that their was no need for the MMA community to hype this man because this guy is a beast with many skills and i personally will feel Ryan "Darth" Bader's pain after this fight. SB Nation's public enemy #1.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jan 6, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
The lower classes especially are now stacked
155 now has 2 promotions worth of talent signed up so if you don’t perform at that weight then there’s no room for you on the roster. McKee is notorious for being boring and was only signed because of his record, once he lost another poor fight to the Christmas loving Obama hating gatekeeper his days were numbered whilst Davis is 38, 1-4 and his last 3 losses were brutal so he had to go. Baroni shouldn’t have been hired in the first place, even SF cut him because he wasn’t good enough, whilst Vera is decent but not worth the money and never lived up to the hype. All good cuts in my opinion.
"There's a few very good judges surrounded by a bunch of incompetent morons, who know nothing about the sport. They need to do something about that, because it's ruining MMA. It's making people think that this sport is corrupt. It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer and total incompetence."
Joe Rogan speaking the truth. Sort the judging out now.
Moves back to HW and Strikeforce has another alternate
by Johnny Ballgame on Jan 6, 2011 10:44 AM EST reply actions
Bellator LHW tournament is pretty good too
and comes with a pretty good purse for the winner.
BIG NOG for Life
One Step closer to Gleison Tibau @ 145
If the round is too close, it's 10-10, NOT flip a coin 10-9 or late takedown FTW.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jan 6, 2011 10:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He'll go to SF
decent name for them
Vera/Babalu
Ill keep track myself.
For 125 i would have went 4/7
I stand at 91 in my lone man wolf pack pool
by *Californication* on Jan 6, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
i would really like to see a striking battle between
Gegard and Vera.
Edson Barboza and Charles Oliveira are gonna stir up the pot at 155!
by robinhorobson on Jan 6, 2011 10:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That’s too easy for Gegard.
Excuse my emotional, reactionary, fanatic output but Pettis will be the next UFC lightweight champion. Period.
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VEe is ANIMated!
by VeeisAnimated on Jan 6, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
you are overrating Mousasi kickboxing skills
I do believe mousasi can win but it will be competitive and not “too easy”. Mousasi has just really started kickboxing and his background is boxing. His win over Kyotaro (who is also overrated because he is the only japanese fighter at HW) doesnt mean that much to me because kyotaro took it on short notice after his K1 GP.
Brandon is very creative on the feet and mixes things up pretty well. And should be entertaining and competitive
Edson Barboza and Charles Oliveira are gonna stir up the pot at 155!
by robinhorobson on Jan 6, 2011 11:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
i dont think you can say mousasi has overrated kickboxing skills being 8-0 in kickboxing and having finished 17 of his 30 wins by tko or ko..
he’d just take it to the groun and sub vera anyway
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said argh" – GSP
by Rampagelangford on Jan 6, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
And just fighting a highly touted K-1 guy on NYE in Japan
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah...
I COMPLETELY agree that by looking at his K-1 record you have to give him more credit then robin does above.
However, there’s not many “kicks” in his kickboxing. It’s mostly boxing.
That said, based on Vera’s recent performances Mousasi get’s the KO (with his hands)
i give Mousasi his credits i like watching mousasi fight
But his background is boxing (i also said that). His kickboxing game is stille developing and it should get better and better training with guys like Tyrone Spong. his record doesnt say anything his best wins over K1 level guys are a washed up Mushashi and Kyotaro wich was a good test but it was on short notice.
Edson Barboza and Charles Oliveira are gonna stir up the pot at 155!
by robinhorobson on Jan 6, 2011 11:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Mushashi was an incredible first K1 fight for ANYONE. And Kyotato is a brutal second fight.
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
based on Vera’s recent performances
- eminent MMA scholar jtc5150
Mentally there’s something wrong with Vera. I’m not overrating Mousasi I just think Vera is a flawed fighter.
Excuse my emotional, reactionary, fanatic output but Pettis will be the next UFC lightweight champion. Period.
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VEe is ANIMated!
by VeeisAnimated on Jan 6, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Mousasi is good kickboxer but he is still learning
The Kyotaro fight was good but not special, it was on short notice and Kyotaro is overrated he only has a right hook and really no good kicks at all. He is just getting these fights because he is one of the few HW japanese kickboxers.
But i still believe a standup battle between Mousasi and Vera would be competitive and not “too easy” for Gegard
Edson Barboza and Charles Oliveira are gonna stir up the pot at 155!
by robinhorobson on Jan 6, 2011 11:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Really?
The Kyotaro fight was good but not special, it was on short notice and Kyotaro is overrated he only has a right hook and really no good kicks at all.
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
haha yes really
Edson Barboza and Charles Oliveira are gonna stir up the pot at 155!
by robinhorobson on Jan 6, 2011 11:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wow what an ignorant statement to make about Kyotaro
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Than tell me what makes Kyotaro so great other than his right hand ?
Edson Barboza and Charles Oliveira are gonna stir up the pot at 155!
by robinhorobson on Jan 6, 2011 12:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he is really hard to finish
Ruslan, Spong, Schilt and Mousasi couldnt finish him.
And he really looked like garbage a Dynamite.
No Pressure, No Diamonds - Thomas Carlyle
ill give him that he is a tough SOB
But what he does is circle away and look to land his right hand. There is nothing special about Kyotaro.
Edson Barboza and Charles Oliveira are gonna stir up the pot at 155!
by robinhorobson on Jan 6, 2011 12:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think that was because Mousasi had a very effective gameplan. Kyotaro is the K1 HW Champ. He beat Aerts to get it. Aerts just beat Semmy Schilt.
Kyotaro is the real deal. Not only did he beat Saki he also KO’d Manhoef. He literally stood toe to toe with one of the baddest K1 fighters ever in Jerome Le Banner. Beat Mushashi before he faded, and Mighty Mo as well.
Oh and at 18-4 he has only lost by decision. To Texeira, Spong and Schilt.
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
ANS wins
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said argh" – GSP
by Rampagelangford on Jan 6, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Kyotaro was coming off the fight of his life against Semmy.
The rumors were that he didn’t train a lick for the Gaygard fight even after taking it on 2 weeks (?) notice. The fact that he lasted as long as he did was kind of shocking to me, but he is hardly an average fighter.
Aerts looked like shit that fight after that loss he joined his old gym Chakuriki and since than he is doing a lot better beating Saki and also Schilt.
Mushasi already was going downwards and LeBanner gave him the win by forfeiting (actually just stormed out of the ring because he didnt agree with the extra round decision)
Losing to texeira says enough
Edson Barboza and Charles Oliveira are gonna stir up the pot at 155!
by robinhorobson on Jan 6, 2011 12:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I didnt say he lost to Le Banner. He alctually got a draw then the DQ. You sure do know how to discredit the guy. Aerts has been successful for YEARS. No matter where he trained out of. Overeem JUST beat Aerts to win the HW GP.
Mushashi in 2008 was NOT going downwards.
But go ahead and discredit an accomplished champion. Have fun.
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
well
Mushashi was going downwards after he failed to qualify for WGP 2006.
Okay you have fun watching Kyotaro i think there are better fighter who deserve his spot
Edson Barboza and Charles Oliveira are gonna stir up the pot at 155!
by robinhorobson on Jan 6, 2011 3:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well until someone beats him he is the champ
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Wut about being the K-1 HW champ =D
Dragged you down below
Down to the devils show
To be his guest forever
Peace of mind is less than never
Hate to twist your mind
But God ain't on your side
An old acquaintance severed
Burn the world your last endeavor
by d*locc on Jan 6, 2011 2:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
it would be entertaining and competetive
vera striking looked pretty good against silva
haha charade you are....
by Weedsuplement on Jan 6, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
wellll
if his wrestling doesnt improve babalu will prolly do the same thing thiago silva did ….. as long as he doesnt touch babalu’s chin
Fortune Favors the Bold
The 205 lb. division is lucky BABALU has a glass chin !!!
Good thought
Actually could win. RIght about better
by Johnny Ballgame on Jan 6, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Good riddance...
wasted more money watching this chump fill up my TV screen than I care to remember.
Had good fights in the UFC you must just be thinking of negative more so then positive
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Your right ANS
I think that when the average person sees someone dominate in their sport and then suddenlly, for no apparent reason, seems to lose their “spark” it can be more frustrating. Hence all the Vera negativity.
It pisses me off that he will not fight with the controlled “reckless abandon”, like his life depended on it. Hopefully he can figure it out. He’s still young enough.
he's 3-6 in his last 9
if thats not grounds for release what is exactly? he now has a 33 percent win average in his last 9 fights. thats good enough for the ufc? they’d never be able to release a guy at that rate.
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
by daniel worby on Jan 6, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
But they dont cut people based solely on records all the time. Name value, marketability and potential also play roles.
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
so they should have kept him hey?
he’ll turn it around right? he’s bound to. he’s gonna be lhw and hw champ at the same time.
they finally made the right call and saw vera for what he is.
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
by daniel worby on Jan 6, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
No I agree with this cut by i was repsonding to your 3-8 theory. What was Jardine when they finally cut him? Marcus Davis run in the UFC is hardly recognizable as well
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Davis should be cut as well
In fact he should retire, he’s gone 1-4 in his last 5 including 3 brutal defeats and his only win was over Goulet who has to have one of the worst chins in MMA. At his age he has no long-term future in the sport, his speed, reflexes and chin have all gone and his grappling was never great.
"There's a few very good judges surrounded by a bunch of incompetent morons, who know nothing about the sport. They need to do something about that, because it's ruining MMA. It's making people think that this sport is corrupt. It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer and total incompetence."
Joe Rogan speaking the truth. Sort the judging out now.
I think the UFC will sace David
for one last fight in a Boston or Ireland card.
by Patrick Daryl on Jan 6, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
They'll probabaly throw him onto the Scotland Fight Night card if he can get medical clearance
"There's a few very good judges surrounded by a bunch of incompetent morons, who know nothing about the sport. They need to do something about that, because it's ruining MMA. It's making people think that this sport is corrupt. It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer and total incompetence."
Joe Rogan speaking the truth. Sort the judging out now.
deserved
looked pathetic against Silva. wouldn’t even try to stand up. so much for that “underrated ground game”
Too often you here about some one’s underrated or over-hyped skills and too often it never materializes.
Excuse my emotional, reactionary, fanatic output but Pettis will be the next UFC lightweight champion. Period.
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VEe is ANIMated!
by VeeisAnimated on Jan 6, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Pretty much
"There's a few very good judges surrounded by a bunch of incompetent morons, who know nothing about the sport. They need to do something about that, because it's ruining MMA. It's making people think that this sport is corrupt. It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer and total incompetence."
Joe Rogan speaking the truth. Sort the judging out now.
underrated means they do have them
But are not given credit for them….. unless you were being sarcastic, then I apologize
"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be a mile from them, and you'll have their shoes." - Jack Handy
by PSYQO78 on Jan 6, 2011 12:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The joke is that the guys with "underrated" ground games or striking never actually show these supposed skills
And when they are in a position to do so they usually end up showing little to no skill at all e.g. Jardine and Vera’s “underrated” ground game.
"There's a few very good judges surrounded by a bunch of incompetent morons, who know nothing about the sport. They need to do something about that, because it's ruining MMA. It's making people think that this sport is corrupt. It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer and total incompetence."
Joe Rogan speaking the truth. Sort the judging out now.
i gets it .....:P
Sarcasm is sometimes hard to interpret in text and on loritabs. In that case underrated this or that is the most overused term in mma.
"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be a mile from them, and you'll have their shoes." - Jack Handy
by PSYQO78 on Jan 6, 2011 12:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
its "lortab"
I have no legitimate reason to know that,but I do.
"eat shit." billions of flies cant be wrong
by salamagogo on Jan 6, 2011 1:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
you're right
Thanks Carrie Corrector
"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be a mile from them, and you'll have their shoes." - Jack Handy
by PSYQO78 on Jan 6, 2011 1:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
lol..one subject i learned way too much about
The hard way.
"eat shit." billions of flies cant be wrong
by salamagogo on Jan 6, 2011 1:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Eh ur comment on him not trying to stand. As I recall from the fight Thiago was the one trying to clinch and went for takedowns.
But he did get his ass kicked. I mean come on Thiago played patty cake on his head and gave him a quick massage. Lol
by pooPOOmagoo on Jan 6, 2011 11:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think he meant stand up from being on the ground my friend
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said argh" – GSP
by Rampagelangford on Jan 6, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
He's saying
That once he was on the ground, he didn’t try to stand AT ALL.
That was the most frustrating thing I’ve ever seen. When he was getting open hand slaped it appeared that he could literally just stand up. It looked as if Silvas weight wasn’t holding him down at all. And…even if it was he didn’t even make an effort, to stand, to roll to his back and grab a leg.
very confusing
Yea that was annoying that he didn’t even try to push off when he did have his feet on his hips. Being from San Diego and Filipino it’s hard for me not to root for Vera but I’m growing tired of his quaalude act on the ground. It cost him a broken face and getting cut from the ufc.
by pooPOOmagoo on Jan 6, 2011 1:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What a fall from Grace Vera has had. Came in the to the UFC like a wrecking ball and has not lived up to the hype. I think he started to believe his own trash talk but he could not back it up in the ring. Shame really he could be a top level fighter.
He beat a bunch of no ones and a fat mir no big deal! He was pummelled by timmmayyy so obviously not that gud!
boards dont hit back....
+1
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said argh" – GSP
by Rampagelangford on Jan 6, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
his best win was that frank mir win
against any top competition he lost
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said argh" – GSP
by Rampagelangford on Jan 6, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
And Mir was fat and just coming back after his motorcycle accident and was totally out of sorts!
boards dont hit back....
Vera was a better fighter before he decided hold out (for more money) on Zuffa
Mike Whitehead
Fabiona Scherner
Justin Eilers
Assurio Silva
Frank Mir
Those were all great finishes in 2006. Than he lost to Timmeh in 07’ and it was all down hill from there.
He is good on the mic and marketable. The UFC just used him in their holiday clothing marketing with Jon Jones….
No Pressure, No Diamonds - Thomas Carlyle
Apart from Mir where are the others now? Are they top flight fighters? no they are not they were all released
boards dont hit back....
you saw where I mentioned the year right... in 2006... those were relevant fights for an up and comer.
Eilers is passed. If you dont’ already know that. RIP…
No Pressure, No Diamonds - Thomas Carlyle
Those were VERY GOOD wins at the time. It doesnt matter where they are now.
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
his tattys really really do suck
ive always said that. looks like shitty scripture found in a pyramid. yes i know its his background. dont care
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
by daniel worby on Jan 6, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Really?
None of those guys were that good, Mir was the only former champion/contender out of the lot of them and Vera beat him when he was at his worst shape and state of mind. If they were good opposition for the time then it just shows how dire the HW division was when Vera broke onto the scene. Once he faced talented fighters at HW and LHW he was exposed as gutless and overrated everytime.
"There's a few very good judges surrounded by a bunch of incompetent morons, who know nothing about the sport. They need to do something about that, because it's ruining MMA. It's making people think that this sport is corrupt. It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer and total incompetence."
Joe Rogan speaking the truth. Sort the judging out now.
Pretty much like every other UFC HW from that era.
And yes, the division was that bad in2006 in the UFC. Cabbage was in relevant fights in 2006. Do I need to go on?
Cabbage being a relevant HW in 06 sums up the division
It doesn’t get any worse than that (well unless Tank was still around).
"There's a few very good judges surrounded by a bunch of incompetent morons, who know nothing about the sport. They need to do something about that, because it's ruining MMA. It's making people think that this sport is corrupt. It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer and total incompetence."
Joe Rogan speaking the truth. Sort the judging out now.
Thats unfair. Because the sport has evolved. If the sport started in 1980 then Gracie and Shamrock probably wouldnt have been iconic. They started it. Abbott was the first reckless brawler. Cabbage the first iron chin.
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
We are not comparing era's, which I believe is pointless.
We are talking about quality of the division as these fighters have aged and there continued ability in the sport.
The facts remain that the only semi-relevant UFC HW fighter, from that era, is Frank Mir, and that is a debatable statement. While we still have very heated arguments about how good (or not so good) the Pride FC HW’s that continue to fight today, we don’t even really discuss Timmay, AA or any of the guys you mentioned as anything other than cannon fodder. There is a reason for that.
And I don’t remember guys whose only redeeming, and lasting, quality is an iron chin. I remember a fat, pink/green/blue-haired slob with no form that was only in the cage because he could take punishment. Sorry, Cabbage does not go into my “good fighters to remember and why” scrapbook.
For sure. But in that era those guys were good. If we rewinded and erased our memories and were watching UFC on our couches in that era…. those guys were the best fighters in the world.
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
disagree
Fedor, Crocop and Nog were the best HW fighters in the world, Dana White just wanted you to believe that Cabbage was relevant.
I meant UFC. And actually Tanks, Cabbages time in the UFC was late 1990’s. Nog and Fedors runs in Pride were mid 2000’s
So technically I still stand by my comment
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
apologies
I was taking a world view. I am still a little angry for the spin job DW does about his company in the mid-2000’s and how it was failed business deals and the Yakuza connection that made Pride fail, not the competition from the UFC.
Well I almost agreed with you. But then I was like no way… Tank wasnt a relevent fighter when Fedor was around was he? So I had to make sure.
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
I never mentioned Tank...
But Cabbage’s last Zuffa fight was 2005 (WEC), his last UFC fight was 2004, so it was close. ;)
and BTW, Cabbage beat Eilers…do you still think he was a quality prospect?
I think Eilers until his run in with Tim, paul B and Vera was one of the better prospects in the division yes.
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Those guys are all a product of a different time
I give them respect for what they did in the early days but none of them had any business fighting in the UFC in 05/06. The fact that Cabbage was still around at that time despite only being a brawler with an iron chin who was at his peak at an earlier era shows how bad the division was at the time Vera broke onto the scene.
Agreed with Ulf, who just wrote the same thing only in greater detail and more articulately.
"There's a few very good judges surrounded by a bunch of incompetent morons, who know nothing about the sport. They need to do something about that, because it's ruining MMA. It's making people think that this sport is corrupt. It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer and total incompetence."
Joe Rogan speaking the truth. Sort the judging out now.
Just to put it in perspective for you guys who may not have followed closely back then.
Vera beat Mike Whitehead to win the WEC HW tourney. It was Vera’s 4th fight and Whitehead was 6-3 already had fought Big Tim and beaten ben Rothwell in his first couple of fights.
Vera then beat Fabiano Scherner when he was 5-1 and already had a win over Assuerio Silva.
Vera then beat Justin Eilers. Eilers was 9-4-1 and just lost in his title fight vs Arlovski. So he was fighting the former number one contender.
Vera then beat Assuerio Silva. Silva was 10-5-1 and regarded highly in the HW division. had fought Big Tim, Aleksander Emilanenko.
Vera then beat Mir. Everyone thinks this was his comeback fight or something. Mir had already fought twice since the accident vs Cruz and Christionson I think. Vera crushed him in about a minute.
Vera then loses to former champ Big Tim which would have been for the title then he had a contract despute which led Randy to come back to face and beat Tim for the title.
And he would go on to lose to Fabricio Werdum. In a fight that many argue was stopped early.
I would say he had a nice run at HW
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Mir looked horrendous against Cruz and Christensen, it was only after Vera smashed him that he went back into serious training
And those guys are decent wins for a prospect but hardly against world class opponents. The fact that Eilers got a title shot in the first place shows how poor the division was. Whitehead was a TUF reject who has never done anything despite being Hughes’ goldenboy that series. Silva is a fat, out of shape, one dimensional BJJ fighter who has put on some of the worst fights in the UFC and never beat anyone decent. And Scherner is another guy who had no business being in the UFC and was just there to make guys like Vera look good and because there were so few good HWs in MMA at the time.
As for his losses he was getting dominated by Werdum and whilst not taking much damage wasn’t defending himself either. Claiming that you can survive until the end of the round doesn’t excuse not defending punches from an ADCC world champion on the ground. And against Sylvia he did nothing other than get clinched against the cage for 3 rounds, considering that he had just been given a huge payrise and was in his biggest fight to date it was a very flat, uninspiring display (broken hand or not).
"There's a few very good judges surrounded by a bunch of incompetent morons, who know nothing about the sport. They need to do something about that, because it's ruining MMA. It's making people think that this sport is corrupt. It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer and total incompetence."
Joe Rogan speaking the truth. Sort the judging out now.
Whitehead hadnt been on TUF yet. Eilers was the best opponent they had on short notice for the title fight.
Those guys you just discredited had every right to be in there at the time. Today no they couldnt be but back then they were good fighters good prospects especially Scherner.
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
They weren't good fighters, they were just veterans and prospects in an awful division
They only got their chance in the UFC because HW has always been a weak division with a few talented guys and many dire big men and at time the top HWs were in Pride. None of the guys Vera beat went on to have successful careers or ever beat top guys, they were just poor fighters in an even worse division.
"There's a few very good judges surrounded by a bunch of incompetent morons, who know nothing about the sport. They need to do something about that, because it's ruining MMA. It's making people think that this sport is corrupt. It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer and total incompetence."
Joe Rogan speaking the truth. Sort the judging out now.
Untrue. Back then they were the cream of the crop when it came to prospects. And the HW division has always been awful up until the last few years. The same ranked HWs 1-8 were basically stationary for years.
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
If that's the cream of the crop of prospects then I'd hate to see the gatekeepers and cans
"There's a few very good judges surrounded by a bunch of incompetent morons, who know nothing about the sport. They need to do something about that, because it's ruining MMA. It's making people think that this sport is corrupt. It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer and total incompetence."
Joe Rogan speaking the truth. Sort the judging out now.
It was before the evolution of MMA. It was in the days one discipline would get you to the top.
The days when Pit Fighting was a legit discipline. Now and then…. worlds of difference.
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Agree w/ DiamondSven Just curious so I looked up on shitdog the records of those guys prior to fighting Vera
Whitehead-legit fight(er) was 6-3 and only “name” fighter he beat was Ben Rothwell
Scherner-5-1-1 prior to facing Vera. Of those 5 wins only one person has a (barely)winning record. Scherner is now 8-8 and out of the UFC
Eilers was 9-4-1 prior to facing Vera. Of those 9 wins only 2 people have a winning record. Only legit fight(er) was Mike Kyle. RIP but was booted out of the UFC after this loss.
Assuerio Silva-was 10-4-1 prior to fighting Vera and one of the losses was to Scherner. Out of the 10 wins only 4 had a winning record and he was also given walking papers after his loss to Vera
Frank Mir – I like him. Don’t tell anybody
by Johnny Ballgame on Jan 6, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
You just proved that they were all prospects. Which means they belonged where they were.
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
I don't consider Eilers, Scherner nor Silva prospects
by Johnny Ballgame on Jan 6, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Thats your opinion unfortunately but at the time of the Vera fights they very much so were considered that.
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Of course it's my opinion
I don’t think that wins against people with mostly losing records would make someone a prospect.
by Johnny Ballgame on Jan 6, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
I just detailed his wins. He fought guys with winning records. Do your homework JB
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Are you trying to get the last word?lol
I did my homework. It’s not my opinion that those 3 had wins over guys with losing records, its a fact. If I didn’t know any better, it almost sounds like you’re being condascending.
by Johnny Ballgame on Jan 6, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Not at all. I am telling you the guys Vera beat in the UFC all had winning records. Thats a fact. I am not sure what records you were looking it.
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe we're debating 2 different things
I agree that Scherner, Eilers, Silva, Whitehead and Mir all had winning records when Vera beat them. I’m stating that the guys that Eilers, Scherner and SIlva beat mostly had losing records.
Only 1 guy that Scherner beat had a winning record
Only 2 people that Eilers beat had a winning record
4 people that Silva beat had a winning record
I’m saying they’re records were padded. Not denying the fact that they had winning records.
by Johnny Ballgame on Jan 6, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, in that case you may be right. Buts that how prospects start. You start with guys with no record or little records. Move on to a few guys to build confidence. Then you move up from there.
But sorry if I came off condescending. You are right we must have switch wires somewhere and were on two different things.
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
You conveniently removed his "win" over Couture.
He was robbed by the judges during that fight.
Thanks to Adelaide Byrd and Tony Weeks, Webster has a new word for highway robbery -- "Nam Phan."
i see this as a good thing
Getting kicked out of the Top MMA promotion might be good to get his ego out and maybe humbles him a bit.
I still do believe that Vera has the skills both grappling and striking. But mentally there is something not right he should really look for help if he wants to get back.
I really hope to see him fight in SF.
Edson Barboza and Charles Oliveira are gonna stir up the pot at 155!
by robinhorobson on Jan 6, 2011 10:53 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Yeah, this will be a great thing for his career but not his pockets unless Strikeforce and Bellator gives his manager a ring.
Excuse my emotional, reactionary, fanatic output but Pettis will be the next UFC lightweight champion. Period.
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VEe is ANIMated!
by VeeisAnimated on Jan 6, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
won't miss him at UFC; like to see his fights, though; strange feeling, no?
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Strange feeling . . . that’s what happened when we see countless promos and highlight reels celebrating a fighter’s skills and performance.
It’s the reason why some fighter’s are revered despite their records.
Excuse my emotional, reactionary, fanatic output but Pettis will be the next UFC lightweight champion. Period.
- - - - -
VEe is ANIMated!
by VeeisAnimated on Jan 6, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
are you kidding me ?
should of gave him one more shot…would of prolly saw the real “truth” the last few fights he was just kidding when he said that …its not his fault the ufc doesnt give him easy comp. all the time ….
Fortune Favors the Bold
The 205 lb. division is lucky BABALU has a glass chin !!!
Jardine made a career of tough fights. Nobody should get easy wins.
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Vera's best attribute
Was his tribal looking celebration dance. If his heart were as big as his ego, he’d be a force.
by Thunder Biscuit on Jan 6, 2011 11:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions
havent seen that since ufc 65
Fortune Favors the Bold
The 205 lb. division is lucky BABALU has a glass chin !!!
thank god. he looked like a retard
that was the only smart thing he did, getting rid of that “dance” that jeff jarret did
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
by daniel worby on Jan 6, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
He never got rid of it, he just never had anything to dance about
"There's a few very good judges surrounded by a bunch of incompetent morons, who know nothing about the sport. They need to do something about that, because it's ruining MMA. It's making people think that this sport is corrupt. It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer and total incompetence."
Joe Rogan speaking the truth. Sort the judging out now.
It's a shame
He definitely deserves it, but what a waste. He had so much talent and promise, but it seems like his biggest problems are in his own head. He used to be one of my favorite fighters, and he has been frustrating for me to watch for quite a while now.
well Thiago silva isnt really a chance to prove yourself against
This was more of a comeback fight for Thiago Silva than a fight to that Vera belongs in the UFC.
Because else he should have fought Hamill or something like that.
Edson Barboza and Charles Oliveira are gonna stir up the pot at 155!
by robinhorobson on Jan 6, 2011 11:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not true. Thiago was coming off a major back injuryy and long layoff. Vera should have taken advantage
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
should have taken advantage of what ?
Thiago had nog longer backproblems and it showed.
Edson Barboza and Charles Oliveira are gonna stir up the pot at 155!
by robinhorobson on Jan 6, 2011 11:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Vera caught Thiago in the pocket several times. Thus prompting Thiago to clinch. He won most if not all the standing exchanges. He should have taken advantage their. He should have worked to keep the fight standing.
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 6, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
agreed
Vera was the better on the feet. But that’s easier said than done. Silva was just to strong for him. I saw Vera scramble once and he ended up in a worse position i think that really demotivate him.
Edson Barboza and Charles Oliveira are gonna stir up the pot at 155!
by robinhorobson on Jan 6, 2011 12:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah I think I know what your talking about
Vera did get the better striking off but you could tell Thiago was just to heavy for him – which is weird, because he faught HW before…
… he just didn’t have any “Go”
No Pressure, No Diamonds - Thomas Carlyle
man was i wrong
sad thing is i really thought he was on his way back after he handled the polish experiment ……god was i wrong
Fortune Favors the Bold
The 205 lb. division is lucky BABALU has a glass chin !!!
i always had my fingers crossed for Vera
Too bad he didnt get the Randy SD that he actually deserved. He’d still have another UFC life.
No Pressure, No Diamonds - Thomas Carlyle
randy beat him no prob
that was the right call. and he had troubles with soszynski. he just plain is average, and ppl have it stuck in their heads that he was slated to be more than that.
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
by daniel worby on Jan 6, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
dont be foolish...
Randy was even suprised he won that fight. “I guess the judges thought I had cage control”
LOL
I guess.
No Pressure, No Diamonds - Thomas Carlyle
Agreed with Worbs that Vera is average at best but he should have gotten the decision over Randy
I was at that fight live and it was painful to watch, all Randy did was fail to take Vera down for 3 rounds whilst Brandon to his credit dropped Randy in the second and mounted him in the third plus he had him wobbled with the first punch. Bad scoring for a bad fight.
"There's a few very good judges surrounded by a bunch of incompetent morons, who know nothing about the sport. They need to do something about that, because it's ruining MMA. It's making people think that this sport is corrupt. It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer and total incompetence."
Joe Rogan speaking the truth. Sort the judging out now.
Mistake . . .
the UFC needs to start acknowledging personalities as well as ‘winners’ – I really think Vera should have been given at least one more shot. People LOVE Vera, he is extremely popular with fans.
Strikeforce will snap him up, they should also get Jardine . . not because they are the best but becaues they have great fighting styles and personalities.
Goodluck Truth
Speak for yourself!
Ive never heard anyone say they love Vera, for the most part its always the same thing, “how is he still in the UFC” “vera sucks”, you know that old chestnut lol! He is easily the most over rated fighter in the history of MMA and should have been cut along time ago.
One more chance to what, prove that you suck again! This guy is not cut out for MMA.
Yeah I’m not sure where that came from, especially the CAPS
by Press Release on Jan 6, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
hes an egotistical asshole after every loss he says the same thing
he’s back, he’ll knock them out, this is the real brandon vera…
No.
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said argh" – GSP
by Rampagelangford on Jan 6, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Not only does he lose and look bad doing it,
he gets his face totally smashed in. Do yourself a favor and quit or learn how to defend yourself. Looking good kicking the bag in the gym is one thing but taking it into the cage is another, he clearly cant do that!
whats this one more shot bullshit
one more loss and hes 3-7 in his last 10. thats absolutely ridiculous. who is 30 percent winning average and still in the ufc? one more shot my ass. he has nothing to offer
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
by daniel worby on Jan 6, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind watching him get destroyed by Gegard, Hendo, Feijao, Kyle, Mo or Babalu
"There's a few very good judges surrounded by a bunch of incompetent morons, who know nothing about the sport. They need to do something about that, because it's ruining MMA. It's making people think that this sport is corrupt. It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer and total incompetence."
Joe Rogan speaking the truth. Sort the judging out now.
Agreed
Awful recent record for an overpaid, arrogant failed prospect. He could have been great but never had the heart or passion to build on his all round skills. Waste of talent.
"There's a few very good judges surrounded by a bunch of incompetent morons, who know nothing about the sport. They need to do something about that, because it's ruining MMA. It's making people think that this sport is corrupt. It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer and total incompetence."
Joe Rogan speaking the truth. Sort the judging out now.
I saw him at UFC 102
in the hotel lobby and no one gave a shit that he was there. Hes a no body
by CoutureisKing on Jan 6, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Ha Ha Ha
So much hostility boys and girls . . . glad the post caused the reaction.
I can't recall off the top of my head
but does Bellator have a LHW tourney in Season 4? While Vera has enough talent to compete with some of the names in Strikeforce and would supplement it’s depth well, they won’t sign him. They have shown they don’t want to grab these guys and appear to be the place for UFC castoffs. However, I like Bellator’s set-up. With their tournaments, a guy will be let in and gets the opportunity to get on a win streak with a lot to gain and Bellator only really gets viewed as giving a shot at redemption and getting their talent back on track. A win-win for org and fighters.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Jan 6, 2011 11:26 AM EST reply actions
He will go to strikeforce and do the same thing there.
Just because its strikeforce doesnt mean he still doesnt suck. Whoever said he should fight Gegard is smoking Meth, that would be the end of Brandon Vera! These are the guysin strikefirce so Im sure it isnt getting any better for him there! OVER RATED IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT!
Fuck'em...That mafuka cost me more money by losing..
I admit I fell victum to his trash talk and I knew he had the skill to back it up but never did.
I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy..It does NOT matter who wins the Brock vs Cain fight because they are simply baby sitting the belt for Junior.
#1 Quinton Rampage the Dragon Slayer Jackson fan for LIFE..FTW!!!
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...
about time
and “the truth” shall set you free (from zuffa)
Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely ...lay your life before him- Bruce Lee
Marcus Davis also just released
Lotta housecleaning going on to make room for the WEC merger. Not that this was a surprise either. I think if either guy wins one or two they will get anotehr shot.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Jan 6, 2011 1:16 PM EST reply actions
It's about fucking time!!!!
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
don't show pie around here. it might get some of the guys horny here.
On february 5th 2011 at UFC 126 Jon "Bones" Jones will show the world that their was no need for the MMA community to hype this man because this guy is a beast with many skills and i personally will feel Ryan "Darth" Bader's pain after this fight. SB Nation's public enemy #1.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jan 7, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
im glad he’s gone. also glad he got his face smashed in. this dude came in thinking he was gods gift to the UFC calling out chuck. then he sat out for a year while he wanted more money. now hes getting his ass kicked all over the place.
by slorider on Jan 6, 2011 9:55 PM EST reply actions
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