Kenny Florian: 'If Melvin Guillard thinks he deserves a title shot over me, he should fight me and beat me'
by Fernando Quiles Jr. on Jan 24, 2011 10:30 PM EST
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"It doesn't make sense. There's a lot of guys working hard. It's who the best fighter is. If Melvin thinks he deserves a shot over me, he should fight me and beat me. It's always about who the best fighter is. Who has he beaten? What has he done? That's great he's finally considered a top contender. Losing to Joe Stevenson in the first round isn't gonna get you that shot. You have to be consistent. He has to separate himself from the pack. I would take that fight."
So Melvin Guillard wants to be a contender, eh? Well, two-time number one lightweight contender Kenny Florian has volunteered to be his stepping stone, saying that the "Young Assassin" doesn't have the resume or the consistency to challenge for a world title ... yet. Legacy be damned! Guillard is fresh off an impressive first round technical knockout victory over Evan Dunham this past Saturday night (Jan. 22) in Fort Hood, Texas. But he's going to have to do better than that if he wants to even sniff division champion Frank Edgar's jock anytime soon, let alone fight him for five rounds. Florian's last bout was a disappointing unanimous decision loss to Gray Maynard, which vaulted the "Bully" to number one contender status. Now Florian's willing to give Guillard that same opportunity, knowing full well that he'd look to exploit his mat skills (or lack thereof) if the match up was ever made. Sound like a good idea, Maniacs?
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I like the fight and I'd take Melvin.
Kenny wouldn’t be able to take him down and a striking match between them would be very entertaining. I think Melvin’s power would be the deciding factor, I’ll take him by 2nd round TKO.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
by TheGreg on Jan 24, 2011 10:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
i think it would go alot like Florian-Gomi
Kenny by sub
by Kevin Jennison J. Zametov-St Pierre on Jan 24, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
But it depends what Kenny shows up. If he’s focused and confident then he will pick apart Melvin from range with his jab and kicks and catch Melvin with a submission once he tires or gets overaggressive. However if the Kenny who is cautious and doesn’t want to engage shows up like he did against Gray, Sherk, BJ and Diego then he’ll get destroyed.
Either way I want to see this fight, Kenny is right Melvin needs to beat top guys and be consistent to be considered one of the best. Hopefully he won’t be injured for too long so they can make this fight happen.
"The British fans are very knowledgeable and passionate about MMA. I would love to fight there once more"
Anderson Silva and you have no idea how happy I am to see this, come on Bisping don't let me down, earn a title shot so I can see my idol fight in person.
Agree 100%
I’m not a fighter, so I don’t know what comes in to play regarding the seemingly schizophrenic approaches you see from time to time. However, If this fight happens, and Old School Kenny shows up, he’s all over Melvin.
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
I disagree on the BJ fight
Kenny lost because he tried to use a bigger more talented fighter(GSP)’s gameplan, wear BJ down then try and win the fight on the ground.
by FritoBindaho on Jan 24, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
Common misconception due to Rogan commentary. Kenny in no way shape or form tried to implement a GSP gameplan. GSP never did what Kenny did. Kenny tried to avoid the striking of Penn by working a clinch game that would expend Penns Cardio.
GSP mixed strikes to gain double and single legs to earn the take down and from there inflict damage. Posture and repeat. Then to stand up and work his jab and kicks.
World apart in game planning
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 25, 2011 12:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
but in the end it comes down to execution and what your skills are.
Kenny didn’t have the skillset for anything of what he did. He should’ve went with leg kicks all night long.
I am who i is.
Agreed
And I personally think he didn’t use his normal strategy of using a range of kicks and punches to wear his opponent down because he was intimidated by BJ. He let BJ’s reputation and the size of the fight affect his mindset and he came in with the wrong gameplan. Not the first time that he’s gone to pieces during a big fight.
"The British fans are very knowledgeable and passionate about MMA. I would love to fight there once more"
Anderson Silva and you have no idea how happy I am to see this, come on Bisping don't let me down, earn a title shot so I can see my idol fight in person.
dana white will just say he choked again when or if that fight happens.
On february 5th 2011 at UFC 126 Jon "Bones" Jones will show the world that their was no need for the MMA community to hype this man because this guy is a beast with many skills and i personally will feel Ryan "Darth" Bader's pain after this fight. SB Nation's public enemy #1.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jan 25, 2011 2:21 AM EST up reply actions
Florian was engaging Sherk,
and was easily winning the stand up, the same as Franca was, Sherk wanted none of it and kept taking them down with his roid strength. They could not do a thing to stop him. Florian seriously needs to work on developing his strength, but I get the impression he believes he can be beat some of the more powerful guys in the division on skill alone, which clearly is not the case. The BJ fight was just a crap game plan. I didn’t know whether it would work or not , as with a lot of people because there were questions about his cardio, BJ answered all questions that night, I doubt Kenny would make that mistake again. Calling Kenny a choker is ridiculous, it was obvious to anyone watching he just implements the wrong strategy at times.
melvin has a weakness for chokes.
kenflo all day.
I hate Fedor. I probably hate you too, but not as much as Fedor.
I wish Chael Sonnen was my uncle.
so does florian.
On february 5th 2011 at UFC 126 Jon "Bones" Jones will show the world that their was no need for the MMA community to hype this man because this guy is a beast with many skills and i personally will feel Ryan "Darth" Bader's pain after this fight. SB Nation's public enemy #1.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jan 25, 2011 2:23 AM EST up reply actions
good test for both
Melvin gets an upper tier fight that he wants and deserves. Kenny gets to try out his new found love for wresliing, that’s all he talks about now and that’s what he needs to beat Melvin…along with a sub of course. I like Keeny and think he is legit but I would have to give a slight striking edge to melvin and the power dept is a no brainer. Side note- I’m curious to see just how many greg jackson fights will fight each other…both kenny and melvin both train under him nom
Old enough to know better, young enough to enjoy it...
by DrunkenStyle on Jan 24, 2011 10:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Kenny doesn’t train under Greg Jackson
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 25, 2011 12:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Where is that coming from?
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
What do you mean?
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 25, 2011 12:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sorry, All the Kenny at Greg Jacksons camp stuff
I
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
A lot of people here are under the misconception that Florian is a Greg Jacksons fighter. He is not.
So the whole team mate vs team mate argument doesn’t work here. That’s all I’m saying.
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 25, 2011 12:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I gotcha
I wasn’t clear in my first comment. I was trying to uncover the source of all the confusion, cause everybody was posting as if Kenny was in fact training at Gregs.
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
Because he has been training at Tri-Star with GSP and Firas
Hence the confusion.
"The British fans are very knowledgeable and passionate about MMA. I would love to fight there once more"
Anderson Silva and you have no idea how happy I am to see this, come on Bisping don't let me down, earn a title shot so I can see my idol fight in person.
here's the deal
I don’t like this match up because kenny will school melvin and blow his title shot again. Give melvin the winner of siver sot or jim miller for number one contender and scratch shalorus bout.
Kenny should move down the ladder before he eliminates another contender. Make a griffin kenny fight. Kenny wins, cool move him up a bit more or give him olivera. Tell griffin to stop squatting and get down to 145 or he can go to strikeforce and fight melendez or bellator for eddie.
Problems solved
Wait, duh, what?
You don’t like this match because the guy you want to win will lose!? Melvin is NOT a contender. He has to beat someone of note first, and if thats Kenny then he has to beat him.
What an odd idea – don’t give him a fight because he will have trouble winning it. Sheesh!
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
No doubt
How about we just ask all the 155ers (besides Edgar) to go on unemployment for 6 months, THEN, Melvin can have a direct path to Kenny!
Rockwell, I understand you pulling for your guy, but dude, Melvin needs to earn that title fight, no?
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
I know he’s gotta earn his shot, but lets get some fresh faces in there, let’s get some prospect vs prospect. I’m not necessarilly pulling for Guillard so much as I’m not pulling for Kenny lol.
If he's not good enough to beat Kenny then he's not worthy of a title fight
And there are several fresh faces in the division now after the WEC merger as well as the continuing development of George and Miller and the surprise revival of Melvin and Guida. If Kenny can beat these guys then he’ll have earnt another shot at the top, if they beat him then they’re clearly ready for the next step (Frankie and Gray). There’s no need to protect any of these guys, let them fight each other and the match-ups will make themselves.
"The British fans are very knowledgeable and passionate about MMA. I would love to fight there once more"
Anderson Silva and you have no idea how happy I am to see this, come on Bisping don't let me down, earn a title shot so I can see my idol fight in person.
lol I know it sounds stupid, but I’m tired of Florian. It’s pretty apparent that he’s a choke artist. Why eliminate an exciting, marketable prospect with a bout against Ken-flo, which can be pretty much marked off as a Guillard loss. Kenny then gets a number 1 contender shot and another title shot. Let’s get some new blood. I know this doesn’t really make sense, chalk it up to being sick of Florian.
Okay, well, at least your honest about it..fair enough
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
Kenny lost to BJ
Maybe he can beat Edgar where most failed against BJ? I’m not thrilled to see him jump into a title shot either, but I’d rather see earned shots rather than gift shots based on popularity.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
How is he a choke artist?
I agree with your assessment about eliminating Florian from any title picture whatsoever, but how is he a choke artist? Ever stop to think that maybe Sherk (then, and maybe now), BJ and Gray are all better than him… Dana calling Kenny a choke artist is an excuse for giving the guy 2 title shots and a #1 contender spot.
Because in all of those fights he came in too cautious and with poor gameplans
He didn’t fight in the usual aggressive and well rounded fashion that he has in the past. The Kenny that destroyed Gomi, Guida and Stevenson did not show up for those fights. Against Gray in particular he seemingly stood and waited to be taken down, the jab that he had utilised so effectively against Gomi was nowhere to be seen. Maybe those guys are all more talented than him but there seems to be a mental problem for Kenny in big fights as well.
"The British fans are very knowledgeable and passionate about MMA. I would love to fight there once more"
Anderson Silva and you have no idea how happy I am to see this, come on Bisping don't let me down, earn a title shot so I can see my idol fight in person.
He obviously has problems with good wrestlers.
Sherk and Maynard took him down almost at will. Diego took him down pretty easily as well. I don’t remember Guida going for too many td’s, but I could be wrong. Either way, it’s fairly obvious that he has problems fighting good wrestlers. Based on that, I think calling him a choke artist is an inaccurate statement. I think he needs to work on his wrestling and td defense.
Calling anyone a choke artist is a cop-out. I think most fighters fight to the best of their abilities everytime they fight, and it’s becoming more and more apparent that Kenny is not championship material.
Kenny you had your title shot ! Oh wait you had 2 of them. Sorry pal
With the win over the legend Matt Hughes the gates are slowly being greased. Soon it will be time to open the Shit gates once again.
And?
It seems Kenny is considering himself sort of a gatekeeper, which I would agree with. If Melvin can beat the gatekeeper, then he can be considered legit. If he can’t, back to the pipe.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
AND Kenny is saying he should get a title shot first.
AND that is BS
With the win over the legend Matt Hughes the gates are slowly being greased. Soon it will be time to open the Shit gates once again.
If he beats Melvin he sure should!! Kennys only losses in the past 5 years were to BJ Penn and Gray Maynard. That’s some pretty good people to lose to.
With BJ Penn no longer the champ, the field is back open. Kennys previous title shots can’t be held against him anymore, and while he may not be ready for a title shot he is certainly more deserving than Melvin!
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
i wasnt talking about a match between melvin and kenny
With the win over the legend Matt Hughes the gates are slowly being greased. Soon it will be time to open the Shit gates once again.
Read the second part.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
ok let these 2 fight then. both have trained with jackson so that will be fun.
but kenny cant say this guy doesnt deserve a title shot in the future before me! that is all im saying . Kenny had his chance and blew it.
With the win over the legend Matt Hughes the gates are slowly being greased. Soon it will be time to open the Shit gates once again.
Kenny is asking for the fight against Melvin
…not a title fight
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
Ya. But Florian isnt Fitch
Florian is more often than not in exciting fights. Plus hes the fitch of the lw division. He cant beat everyone except the champ. Granted that was back with BJ. I would love to see him fight Edgar though. Melvin………eh. I think he needs a fight or two before a title shot. Well….a win or two.
AKA needs to take notice
People dog the Jackson fighters for being cautious and not having the fighting spirit, right? But now we have Florian calling out Guillard and I suspect Melvin would gladly take this fight, despite the fact that they are both trained by Jackson. Likewise, a couple months ago, Condit was calling out GSP—another example of guys from the Jackson camp calling each other out. AKA talks a lot of junk about the Jackson guys, but it’s the AKA guys that look like punks for refusing to fight one another. Kos got exposed in his last fight and Fitch is boring. They need to go away.
I have a feeling that AKA is more of a ‘family’ kind of camp. Where they stay solely there and their main training is there.
The Jackson fighters like St. Pierre and Florian go all over to get their training done, which is why I believe Condit would have no problem fighting St. Pierre and Florian wouldn’t have a problem going up against Guillard.
by Baron Hashimoto on Jan 24, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
somebody wanna tell me when florian started training at jacksons???
"I don't think Diego Sanchez belongs at 170. He does not look good at 170." - Dana White after Diego's loss to Hathaway
"I love Diego Sanchez at 170." - Dana White after Diego's victory over Paulo Thiago
Gotta love a president that sticks to his guns...
yeah i thought he was at tristar
and god said to abraham "you must get melvin manhoef to deal with these bitches"
by theoregonduck on Jan 24, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
i guess the weekend was extended
because theres no way 3 people should be in agreement on something this far from the truth on a monday
"I don't think Diego Sanchez belongs at 170. He does not look good at 170." - Dana White after Diego's loss to Hathaway
"I love Diego Sanchez at 170." - Dana White after Diego's victory over Paulo Thiago
Gotta love a president that sticks to his guns...
Jacksons is 100% a family oriented gym
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 25, 2011 12:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Guillard and Kenny do not both train under Greg. Just guillard. And Carlos will not train under Greg if he fights GSP.
Another few misconceptions
"So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
by AintNoSunshine on Jan 25, 2011 12:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
that's fucked up
hasn’t carlos been at jackson’s longer than gsp? and plus it’s not like gsp needs jackson to win that fight, whereas carlos does.
and god said to abraham "you must get melvin manhoef to deal with these bitches"
by theoregonduck on Jan 25, 2011 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
Ok Kenny
I would be bitter too if I lost two title shots and a number 1 contender spot. It’s time someone new gets to be a top contender. I’ll start considering florian a legit threat to the belt when he strings together 4-6 wins
because its that easy to have 4/5/6 win streaks in the UFC
facepalm Kenny is a Top 10 LW in anyones book
I have him at 4 behind Frankie, BJ and Gray
by Kevin Jennison J. Zametov-St Pierre on Jan 24, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly my point
It’s not easy to go on a 4-5-6 win streak in the UFC, and that is why if he wants to be as relevant as he once was, he needs to start running through some guys in an impressive way. Guillard is on a 4 fight UFC win streak, George Sotoropolis is on a 6 fight UFC win streak, Jim Miller is on a 6 fight UFC win streak, and Gray Maynard was on an 8 fight win streak with the UFC before he got a title shot.
I’m not saying that he’s not a legit fighter, but he absolutely needs to start beating a lot of good guys again, like all of the aforementioned fighters had to do, before he can start complaining about who should get a title shot.
It all sounds like sour grapes to me
by ScissorSweep on Jan 24, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
err ummm
The quality of opponents sort of matters too. Losing to BJ Penn and Gray Maynard is kind of different than beating Ronnys Torres and Waylon Lowe.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
And he arguably lost to Tibau and Stephens as well
"The British fans are very knowledgeable and passionate about MMA. I would love to fight there once more"
Anderson Silva and you have no idea how happy I am to see this, come on Bisping don't let me down, earn a title shot so I can see my idol fight in person.
Sounds good
Let Melvin beat someone of note before declaring himself number one contender.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
People really think Melvin would beat Kenny? He’s improved yeah…but if the UFC wants to build Melvin into a new LW contender that’s not the match-up to make, because Kenny beats Melvin at this point in time.
I do, yes.
Kenny’s weakness has always been his wrestling. I don’t think he can get Melvin to the ground, and on the feet I think it’s pretty much a toss-up. Kenny is definitely the more technical striker but I think Melvin’s power would eventually catch him.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
by TheGreg on Jan 24, 2011 11:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I just haven't seen enough progression from Melvin yet to justify that view.
He certainly has the physical tools to beat Kenny, but then, he’s always had the speed and power to be a force at 155, it was his skill level that was always sub-par. It’s being addressed now, but I’d still have to Melvin rack up a couple of wins before I think he’s really title worthy. I disagree about getting Melvin to the ground, at this point, I still think Kenny’s MMA grappling is superior to Melvin’s. Add that in w/ his technical striking, and it’ll take more than Melvin’s natural speed and power to catch Kenny for the KO.
melvin wins via semi-legal knees
and god said to abraham "you must get melvin manhoef to deal with these bitches"
Remember
illegal knees are only illegal if your opponent is conscious.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
After seeing Melvins last fight
I would have liked to see him matched up with Pettis. It would be a dangerous fight for pettis. But I think hed be smart enough to not stand in the pocket with Guillard. Probably a much more interesting fight than Guida. Guida should be fighting oliviera maybe. Id like that fight.
Florian it is the guy who got beat by Sherk in a title shot ?
Florian it is the guy who got submitted by Penn ?
Florian it is the guy who got beaten down by Gray Meynard ?
and he thinks he deserve another title shot ?
Give me a Break
what is it retard day???
he didnt say he deserves another shot right now, he said he deserves one before guillard and is willing to fight him to prove it…you cant read nor type (reread what you said…“florian it is”…wtf does that mean honestly)…maybe you should break yourself in on the weekend where all the other idiots wont criticize you…somebody let me know when the regulars come back
"I don't think Diego Sanchez belongs at 170. He does not look good at 170." - Dana White after Diego's loss to Hathaway
"I love Diego Sanchez at 170." - Dana White after Diego's victory over Paulo Thiago
Gotta love a president that sticks to his guns...
I prefere watching Guillard fight for the belt than see Florian on the pre-fight saying(again) that he will beat the champ and all the s**t like that. Yeah maybe Florian didn’t say he deserve a shot now but I’m sick hearing this saying is better than him (Guillard and Other) and get beat easily after that. Because honestly What did he prove again Penn ? Maynard ? He Get ’’Fitched’’ against Maynard. And He talks about Stevenson … come on, yes he beat him but Stevenson give more trouble to Penn than Florian.
i dont see how any of what you just said matters
florian is better than guillard. period. the better fighter should get a shot at the belt. period. if guillard wants to prove that hes more deserving of a shot at the title than florian then he should have to beat him. period
"I don't think Diego Sanchez belongs at 170. He does not look good at 170." - Dana White after Diego's loss to Hathaway
"I love Diego Sanchez at 170." - Dana White after Diego's victory over Paulo Thiago
Gotta love a president that sticks to his guns...
I don’t have any problems to see Guillard VS Florian, I think the fight could be great but I just said Florian is not in a position to call out anybody …
well i mean you didnt say that at all
both of your posts said that kenflo doesnt deserve another shot…which i disagree with, if he earns it he should get it, same as guillard…just cause hes choked in two previous title shots doesnt mean he doesnt deserve another one if he earns it…the bills went to the super bowl and lost back in 90 and 91…i think the NFL still let them play a full schedule in 92
"I don't think Diego Sanchez belongs at 170. He does not look good at 170." - Dana White after Diego's loss to Hathaway
"I love Diego Sanchez at 170." - Dana White after Diego's victory over Paulo Thiago
Gotta love a president that sticks to his guns...
if he earns it yeah… but i think Guillard… for now deserve a shot before Florian … and if they fight, fine with me
Okay, well now that we all agree
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
and sorry fot the It is :P I’m not writting in englsih very often so … I think ’’isn’t ’’ is the better word for that :P
No problem. just messin around
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
got your picks yet for ufc 126?
On february 5th 2011 at UFC 126 Jon "Bones" Jones will show the world that their was no need for the MMA community to hype this man because this guy is a beast with many skills and i personally will feel Ryan "Darth" Bader's pain after this fight. SB Nation's public enemy #1.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jan 25, 2011 3:08 AM EST up reply actions
retard day lol
It sure seems like it. I guess losing to BJ and Grey is considered bad now.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
This whole thread is like a long ride on the short bus...for real
I don’t even know what half these guys are SAYING.
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
I think Melvin bought his dealer a computer, and all the addicts at the crackhouse are making accounts to comment.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Dadgummit, someone is screwing with us
Half these posts are from new SB joins today
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
Okay, well maybe not half
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
Wouldn't surprise me
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I like this fight.
I’ll take Kenny all day in this 1. Dunham was supposed 2 fight kenny so it only makes sense. Only thing Mel has on Kenny is power.
Here from the king's mountain view
Here from the wild dream come true
Feast like a sultan I do on treasures and flesh - never few
The devil and his had me down in love with the dark side I'd found, dabbling all the way down; up to my neck, soon to drown
by d*locc on Jan 24, 2011 11:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
power and speed. they tend to win fights.
On february 5th 2011 at UFC 126 Jon "Bones" Jones will show the world that their was no need for the MMA community to hype this man because this guy is a beast with many skills and i personally will feel Ryan "Darth" Bader's pain after this fight. SB Nation's public enemy #1.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jan 25, 2011 2:31 AM EST up reply actions
Bonerific!
I been asking for these two to go at it next! Be careful Florian, Melvin finishes fights!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
Lmao! For real?
2 finishes in his last 6 fights.
Here from the king's mountain view
Here from the wild dream come true
Feast like a sultan I do on treasures and flesh - never few
The devil and his had me down in love with the dark side I'd found, dabbling all the way down; up to my neck, soon to drown
by d*locc on Jan 25, 2011 12:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not for real
Joke.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 25, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
This fight ends in only 2 ways. Florini by sub or Melvin by KTFO
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Jan 25, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
Florian is such a fucking idiot!!!
I think Melvin would SMASH that Ben Stiller lookin’ mother fucker! He brings up a loss from how long ago!? And whats all this talk about being consistant!?!?!?!? Florian loses every big fight he is in!!
But thats a great reason why they should fight
Florian says “He has to separate himself from the pack”. That is an absolutely true statement. If Melvin beats him, it’s a huge win for him, and Kenny drops even further. If Kenny wins, he starts the climb again. This could be a GREAT fight.
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
Guillard will win
His explosive striking and power will lay kenny out. I could see a first or second round TKO for Melvin
by Gordie_123 on Jan 25, 2011 12:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Are you saying that Melvin is homosexual?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
But if Melvin is the one anally raping, that means its his control and his choice – making him the homosexual. Do you have any proof that he is homosexual or are you just claiming it for effect?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Florian will most likely pay him
Florian makes much more money than Melvin and Melvin needs to make ends meet somehow. He isn’t the most educated man so this is sort of a last resort for him. Florian likes nothing more than another mans dick – proven fact.
So Melvin is a homosexual prostitute?? You must really hate the guy to be making all these claims! :\
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Not at all
I think you’re taking this just a wee bit too far, but I’ll just say it so you can understand. I like Melvin and I think he would kill Florian, who I hate
ok that I can understand :)
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
durhurdahur
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
KFLO!
How many time do we need to see this clown get a title shot and blow it. Over it go away
...ugh
Kenny is challenging MELVIN!
Who, at present, is NOT the title holder. Therefore, it will not be another shot at the title, but rather, a fight to allow the fans to see if Melvin is good enough to hang with guys at the higher level. It kinda actually makes sense.
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
"Losing to Joe Stevenson in the first round isn't gonna get you that shot. You have to be consistent. "
what about consistantly getting title shots and blowing it kenny? you bring up his loss from how many years ago? If thats the case I guess you could never beat sean sherk
The next Stanley cup champs-----> Detroit RED WINGS
it would come down to who the better striker is. I dont see kenny getting takedowns and if he did i bet melvin would be on his back for 10 seconds tops. ether kenny wins on points, catches him in a guillotine or melvin knocks kennys block off
The next Stanley cup champs-----> Detroit RED WINGS
@ Arm Bandit! Hey buddy how you fucking doing? Where do you live at? I was laughing at your screen name. SCARY! You go city to city and people are terrified. Oh no, it is the arm bar bandit. LMAO! I don’t like your comments about the military. Freedom is free but you abuse it. I would like to kick your ass. I don’t care if you are trained in MMA, a Heavyweight. I just want to explode on you and lay some steel rain on your bitch ass! Lets meet I live at 1463 south west temple SLC, UT. 84113
Lets meet I live at 1463 south west temple SLC, UT. 84113
10 bucks says you get a box of dicks in the mail by Friday.
(I stand at 94 in my lone man wolf pack pool)
The bitterest tears shed over graves are for words left unsaid and deeds left undone.
by *Californication* on Jan 25, 2011 2:43 AM EST up reply actions
The screen name combined with the words was enough to raise a flag. Then I looked at the pic. Scary.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
Took me a second to see it when I clicked on it.
You’re more versed on the subject than I am, but I saw on CS awhile back that there was some ex-wwe guy seen walking up to the house with his wife as possible first to the house, then he denies and says he wasn’t there and was on tour, which wwe denies? Am i way off?
My bad on the other thing.
(I stand at 94 in my lone man wolf pack pool)
The bitterest tears shed over graves are for words left unsaid and deeds left undone.
by *Californication* on Jan 25, 2011 2:53 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
that was sort of a recent development, I believe. That whole story was wild. I read an entire book about it, actually, and he was a deeply troubled individual. Always felt like he was too small for pro wrestling, because promoters, at least in America, loved the big cartoon-like muscle heads who are 6’7’’ and ripped. He was a little guy who was a great worker but that’s the kind of thing that gets you a ton of respect in Japan, not here in the U.S. So he roided up and absolutely killed his brain with everything he was using. Eventually, he lost it and ended up killing his wife and child that night. The details are horrible.
The aftermath has seen WWE doing whatever they can to distance themselves from the situation. They’ve more or less written him out of their history because of what happened. Just horrible all around.
As for the other thing, you’re good.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
Dude, do you sleep?
Am I missing a joke, or is KrazyA off a bit?
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
Sad stuff
I also saw where they said his brain showed signs similar to that of a 80year old (like ol micks body eh). This isn’t the venue for the whole topic, but its darkly intriguing.
(I stand at 94 in my lone man wolf pack pool)
The bitterest tears shed over graves are for words left unsaid and deeds left undone.
by *Californication* on Jan 25, 2011 3:13 AM EST up reply actions
Ohhh, I just saw the pic, and just now realized what you guys are actually talking about
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
It wasn't just steroids that caused it Geno
Benoit’s ring style must have contributed to the brain damage he suffered, he wrestled a high impact style and suffered from numerous head and neck injuries as a result. He dove off the top rope and landed on his face in every match and regularly landed on his head and neck when suplexing opponents as well as taking unprotected blows to the head with steel chairs in matches. The wrestler whose ring style inspired Benoit (Dynamite Kid) has had all sorts of injuries and mental health problems as well. He was always anti-social as well, even as a child so it sounds like there was something off with him even before pro wrestling. Steroids is too easy an excuse to make for Benoit’s actions in my opinion.
"The British fans are very knowledgeable and passionate about MMA. I would love to fight there once more"
Anderson Silva and you have no idea how happy I am to see this, come on Bisping don't let me down, earn a title shot so I can see my idol fight in person.
From everything I've read
he was actually a very normal kid with a decent upbringing. You are right though about everything else. It definitely wasn’t just the steroids. The diving headbutt was causing him issues and giving him concussions and they told him not to do it anymore and he just kept at it.
The whole thing sucks.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
What's up this week?
Two new guys laying down threats?
It’s getting worse than the bar in here.
Posting your home address and wanting a fight with a stranger.
That’s normal.
Doesn’t this violate some term of service on Mania?
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said aarg" – GSP
Probably not his address
My guess is he’s hoping people somehow do something to that address, and it’s someone he doesn’t like.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Lets chip in and buy ABB a ticket
We can find out that way :)
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
We won't tell him where we're bringing him
ABB loves a good surprise
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said aarg" – GSP
He's just trying to punish ABB by sending him to Utah.
That’s much scarier than the prospect of an ass-kicking.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
Imagine being married to a whole bunch of women
instead of just one.
You’re right…….it’s a friggin horror movie over there.
I’ll take the beating
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said aarg" – GSP
You spent any time in Utah?
I actually like it there, but not really where I’d want to live. But I agree that you could do a lot worse than polygamy ;-)
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
No I've never been there...just bein a smartass
Oh that’s kinda funny….lol
You thought I was wishing for extra wives.
I was saying the thought of it makes my blood run cold :)
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said aarg" – GSP
Spoken like a married man.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
I hope he is joking
Talking about consistency, Kenny is 3-2(lost his last fight) in his last 5 fights, while Melvin is 4-1 and is on a 4 fight winning steak! That’s one.
Losing to Joe Stevenson in the first round, well that was like 5 years ago. If you think Melvin is the same fighter, then you need reality check. That’s two.
Who has he beat? Evan Dunham!!(would’ve got a titleshot or 1 fight away from it had he won the fight). Jeremy Stephens(top contender). That’s three.
I’m not a Melvin fan, but Kenny is just talking nonsense here.
" is like saying I just got a haircut"- Sonnen.
What is Kenny talking about.
Kenny go home, you’ve had 2 shots at the title and blown both of them. You have no right saying your a stepping stone if you were consistent, perhaps you would have been a champion at one time in your career? It hasn’t happened yet and I doubt it ever will. I think in your last 5 fights your 3-2. What’s Melvin in his last 5 fights?
This fight makes sense to me...
I dont agree with all of Florians comments, but I think the fight would be a good fight for Guillard to take. Training with Team Jackson I only expect Guillard to improve. Florian has been at the top of this class and has had a couple title shots. He hasnt won them, but hes been there. If Guillard beats him, I think Guillard would deserve a shot.
Kenny wasting no time trying to set up his next fight
Supposed to fight Dunham who loses so why not fight the guy who beat him…I’d like to see this fight…
Will someone please explain to me why Florian always thinks HE deserves a title shot??Hey fuckwad, you just got your ass handed to you in a #1 contenders fight!!! HOW THE FUCK do you think you deserve a tite shot? Or even another back to back #1 cotnender fight?? shut the hell up and win 3 or 4 fights before they even CONSIDER you for a title shot!!!!!!
Bring back the Chute Boxe of old!!!
Hey dumbass
read the article before commenting. Or at least read the TITLE of the article.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Hey bitch, i dead read the fucking article!!!
“If Melvin thinks he deserves a shot over me, he should fight me and beat me.”
Florian saying that, insinuates that Florian feels he deserves a title shot over Melvin!!!
Ya shut the fuck up.
Bring back the Chute Boxe of old!!!
First day with the English language, eh?
It’s okay, your comprehension will increase as you gain confidence. The sentence you quotes couldn’t be any clearer, yet you completely misread it. I laugh at you.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Poor misguided soul that thinks that just because he tries to type all properly, that he is some kind of proper intellectual douche bag. I’m thinking your around 20 ’ish or so, If thats the case, i weep for the future with fucktards like you around that look for any little thing to start an arguement over. Reason #1 why, as much as i love MMA, i avoid posting on sites. Oh well, done wasting my time on you, have a good one.
Bring back the Chute Boxe of old!!!
Some points to consider:
1: I mock your comprehension, not your spelling. The fact that you didn’t get that only enhances my point.
2: Using “fucktard” makes you instantly cool. It’s true.
3: If all you have to offer sites is tears and pee stains, then it’s probably better that you stay in lurker mode.
The internet is not your wife – you can’t slap it until it agrees with you.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
hahaha I hope they do put this fight together
Melvin will SMOKE Florian in one round. There’s no way Florian would be able to deal with Melvin’s size if he can’t deal with Maynard’s.
Ive always like Kenny and disliked Melvin.
That said Kenflo has proven to us that as skilled as he is he cant win the big fight. Melvin has shown some serious improvement over the last couple years and has made a push for a contender spot (I still hate Melvin, that wont change). Not to mention that Kenny’s planning going into fights is brutal at best & he has had two title fights already and cant getter done. He needs to shut the fuck up and win a title or keep is trap closed, sorry Kenny youve had youre chance, Melvin is ripping through guys and he should be next (as much as it pains me to say that).
Melvin doesnt deserve to fight a high ranked guy like Kenflo
When Jim MIller is getting a nobody? seriously? I understand hes not marketable, but UFC is supposed to be about the best fighting the best, and Miller is one of the best. Melvin isnt even top ten, why is he even being discussed?
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