Pat Barry: I don't know how anyone is going to stop Alistair 'The Monster' Overeem
by Jesse Holland on Jan 10, 2011 9:15 AM EST
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But I can think of at least seven other heavyweights who might disagree with Barry's assessment during his recent appearance on MMAWeekly Radio:
"The dude is a monster. That’s what I think. Not only is he humongous, (but) he’s extremely experienced. That’s what makes him the most dangerous. Not just the size, but he has so much experience in MMA and in kickboxing, and he’s a Dutch trained kickboxer. I was in Amsterdam for five years. I know what the Dutch train like out there... He doesn’t seem to get tired. All he needs to do is hit you one time. He’s fast, he’s athletic, and he’s strong as hell. He’s everything you need all in one body... The dude is a monster. I don’t know how anyone is going to stop him any time soon."
Heavyweight half-pint Pat Barry doesn't expect to see Alistair Overeem get stopped "anytime soon," despite being paired off against Fabricio Werdum in the upcoming Strikeforce Heavyweight Grand Prix, which in addition to "Vai Cavalo," could also see him throwing hands with Fedor Emelianenko or "Bigfoot" Silva. Can "Demolition Man" live up to his billing and steamroll his way to the tournament title? Or will the Strikeforce Heavyweight Champion, K-1 World Grand Prix Champion and now DREAM Interim Heavyweight Champion cough up one of his belts in 2011?
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True statement
I can see Fedor knocking him out though. Alistairs biggest weakness is his chin… Other than that the holes are small.
"If god invented anything better than pussy he keeps it to himself" - Mike Tyson
He's got alot of submission-wins. More than knockouts.
Plus… Try putting him on his back! :p
"If god invented anything better than pussy he keeps it to himself" - Mike Tyson
hahaha
just woke my roommate up by laughing too loudly at that lol
"I don't think Diego Sanchez belongs at 170. He does not look good at 170." - Dana White after Diego's loss to Hathaway
"I love Diego Sanchez at 170." - Dana White after Diego's victory over Paulo Thiago
Gotta love a president that sticks to his guns...
The problem I see with Reem is he has not faced top tier competion since 07
He was a HW as well when he faced Rua back in 07 not as big as he is now and Rua KO him out as did Arona and Lil NOG the year before. With the competition he has faced since then none of them have proved he will be able to handle the top tier and fighting and facing Werum or Fedor is a big jump from Buantello or Duffee.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
listen, when looking at alistars skill set...i project him to be a top 5 heavyweight, and one bad motherfucka!!!
I would really like to see him face the likes of Werdum, Barnett, Fedor to really find out how good the man is….
Alistar is a beast, he just needs to test himself and prove it against the elite fighters in SF!!!
he is as deadly as anyone standing up…
his td defense is pretty damn good for a dutch kickboxer who spent little time training in America
Her isnt a jits wizard, but he is very good at ending fights with certain submissions, such as Kimuras and guillotines.
No one really knows if he can deal with fighting off his back. he has never really arm barred or triangled his way to a win, and not sure if he can get the fight standing once a top wretsler puts him on his back!
There is nothing at the current moment in mma, that excites me more then finding out exactly how good Overeem truly is. Thanks to the SF GP, 2011 will be the most exciting year ever in the heavyweight division… UFC HW division needs to step its game up!
Top UFC HW like Big Country and Mir would get Demolished in that tournament!!!
by John G. on Jan 10, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How you doing? Any news?
JB JB JB JB!! (For all the bass ackwards BJ Penn fans that actually think he will not get blanketed by Fitch.)
Waiting for Doc to ring me....was only off phone to doc to see if results back........
Cheers for asking ULF.
whats wrong tk?
nothing serious i hope
"I don't think Diego Sanchez belongs at 170. He does not look good at 170." - Dana White after Diego's loss to Hathaway
"I love Diego Sanchez at 170." - Dana White after Diego's victory over Paulo Thiago
Gotta love a president that sticks to his guns...
im sure everything will work out
in my prayers brotha
"I don't think Diego Sanchez belongs at 170. He does not look good at 170." - Dana White after Diego's loss to Hathaway
"I love Diego Sanchez at 170." - Dana White after Diego's victory over Paulo Thiago
Gotta love a president that sticks to his guns...
Good luck tkkpal, also in my prayers!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
Top UFC HW like Big Country and Mir would get Demolished in that tournament!!!
I don’t know about that I would take them over any fighter in the second bracket besides barnett.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
nelson yes, mir no
mir crumbles when he gets hit hard, both kharitonov & rogers are power punchers (rogers not much more than that, sadly)
+1
if this tournament was seeded, id probly have nelson at 3…mir could fight his way in by beating his glass chinned brethren in arlovski
"I don't think Diego Sanchez belongs at 170. He does not look good at 170." - Dana White after Diego's loss to Hathaway
"I love Diego Sanchez at 170." - Dana White after Diego's victory over Paulo Thiago
Gotta love a president that sticks to his guns...
Not really vhm we don't know how good sergie or BArnett really are as neither have fought in sometime and one of Sergie's latest fights was a loss to Monson and sorry Mir is much better than Monson
Rogers is a one fluke punch fighter the man has zero ground game or grappling skills that could harm Mir, I think Sylvia is a much better fighter than Rogers.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Agaisnt any good fighters all Rogers has is a striking chance a pretty easy game to defend for the top tier fighters
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
When you say Mir is better better than Monson,
you seriously cannot be talking about Jeff Monson.Wow, I am truly amazed that you believe that. Mir may have got the win against Sylvia, but that fight was a pile of shit because of Sylvia was fighting scared and wanted to defend the whole night, that wasn’t down to Monson. Mir can only dream about having the skills that Monson has, he is not in Monsons league.
Kongo never even threw a punch let alone landed one against Mir, so I do not see how you can use that as some sort of measurement as to how he would do against Rogers. You are better of judging him by how he performed against Cro Cop. I am not sure how Rogers would do against Mir, but I could imagine that Arlovski combo leaving him turtled up on the floor.
nelson already got ktfo by arlovski
no way would i have nelson as no3 seed, that belongs to barnet or werdum
Arlovski was also gifted a stand-up from BC’s dreaded belly crucifix, so take that win for what it’s worth.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
nelson already got ktfo by arlovski
Thats history four20 what has AA done lately and what has Big C done? I think it points in the direction that AA is falling and BC is improving?
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
still wouldnt have him no3 seed if he was in the sf tournament
also sucks that he got himself in some contract mumbo jumbo
Sounds like he might be out of it
Reports is he will be facing Mir in May?
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Good post John G.
Before Werdum beat Fedor I had Overeem as the man to beat him. Based merely on the fact that Overeem has showed he has a tight defense and could pick apart Fedors stand-up. Also, Fedor would have a hard time getting Overeem to the ground.
However, John hit it right on the nose. Overeem has to show how he works off his back. The UFC HW division is dominated by wrestlers who would more likely then not be able to get him on his back and keep him there. Would be interesting to see.
Going with my heart on this tournament, Though I don’t think its gonna happen cus he’s on a decline. But Fedor is gonna win this tournament!
I sure hope Barnett is given a licence becasue bracket two is pretty weak
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Fedor will win the tournament! He is a special athlete, and after defeat i the Werdum fight, I expect him to show the world y he is THE GOD!!!
who do you think Nelson would beat in that tournament? Maybe Sergie, maybe Rogers?
He already lost to Arlovski…he isnt beating Barnett EVER!!! He wont beat Werdum, alistar or Fedor….and I see him severly struggling with Bigfoot as well!
i think nelson takes arlovski, rogers and sergei
he has the chin to get close enough to either of them and his ground game is well above rogers’ and sergei’s. Arlovski refuses to use sambo for whatever reason so i think nelson could take him to a ud
are you aware of the fact that Arlovski has already beaten Nelson?
Since then, Nelson has improved a lot, and there was a very questionable stand up in favor of arlovski when they fought…but oyu still cant take that win away from Andre
by John G. on Jan 10, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
thats true
but JDS couldnt knock him out, who is probably a more complete striker than both of them
"I don't think Diego Sanchez belongs at 170. He does not look good at 170." - Dana White after Diego's loss to Hathaway
"I love Diego Sanchez at 170." - Dana White after Diego's victory over Paulo Thiago
Gotta love a president that sticks to his guns...
No way Fedor wins this!
Smart money is on Reem!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
yeah, i saw the fight online a while ago
and i see your point but arlovski has been on a decline and nelson has gotten better, nelson would take the rematch
are you aware of the fact that Arlovski has already beaten Nelson?
That has nothing to do with now, have you watched both fighters fight lately John G? If not you should and maybe you would be on the same page?
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
maybe u should read my other comments...alreay addressed all that
nelson is b level just like andre
Yeah i agree they are on the second tier
Still goood fighters and I would love to see them fight eachother again.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
It was a good fight
Nelson gave him problems but AA held off and was able to get a solid strike in before nelson was. But since then I must say Nelson has looked like he has improved and AA the opposite.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
The fight happened during the reign of the "ultra corrupt" Elite XC. That's enough to say.
Thanks to Adelaide Byrd and Tony Weeks, Webster has a new word for highway robbery -- "Nam Phan."
He also destroyed Rogers a lot more dominantly than Fedor.
I think 2 fights rather close together (Fedor-Rogers and Rogers-Reem)are a better gauge than what happened when Reem was not even the same animal. If you can’t see a “huge” difference, skill wise and size wise, you aren’t paying attention. That’s like using Liddells win over Alister way back when . If Reem fought any of those guys now he would destroy them, except for maybe Werdum, but he had better get the sub quick or he getting KTFO.
chin?
lol. any person in the world has his chin as a weakness. it’s not a quality or a strength. any fight Alistair is in he can knock the other person out with one shot. His weakness would be his mentality once he gets hit a couple times, but he’s been impressive the last 3 yrs when he’s got hit as well, never gone wild and has come back to win basically all fights, he recovers in no time.
"never as bad as they appear during their lowest points, never as good as they seem during their highest ones. the very best then must be not just talented but resilient, not just hungry but focused. their sport demands it."
His chin is his weakness
I’m not saying he has a horrible chin, it’s average at best. He has been rocked plenty of times and ko/stunned.
Definitely not going to be easy to pull off but if someone can hit him clean they will have a chance. Also cant wait to see what his take down defense looks like against werdum
by jtc5150 on Jan 10, 2011 10:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
anyone who gets hit clean is going to be in trouble, get knocked down, knocked out. and at the least get rocked. that’s what happens, its the same for all ppl in the world! It comes down to who is the best and who makes the first mistake and it just so happens that Alistair is so good that it rarely ever happens anymore. He hasn’t been KO’d for real ever, at least i haven’t seen his lights go out.
"never as bad as they appear during their lowest points, never as good as they seem during their highest ones. the very best then must be not just talented but resilient, not just hungry but focused. their sport demands it."
i kinda agree but you have to account for 4oz gloves
overeem blocks like a mad man using 10oz gloves, his defense seems tight but what will happen if either fabricio or fedor overwhelm him with shots? he’s not going to be able to block all of them and he might a few in the process.
his following fights are going to be amazing battles no doubt
History has shown us that Reem is susceptible to being KO'd
I don’t see that as a stretch, at all.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
ANCIENT HISTORY that is....other then 1 of his k-1 fights with Hari, I havent seen his chin fail him since 2006 in Pride!!
Speaking of Badr Hari, where has he been?
Actually since 2007 but if you look at the fighters he has faced since Pride there was not much to worry about.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
the gloves help a lot
they absorve most of the impact with his tight guard. Still is going to be awesome seeing him face elite mma competition
no shit...but k-1 is a component of mma...now that we got that definition out of the way, maybe we can have a decent debate
by John G. on Jan 10, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No it's not John G
When you have gloves on your willing to take more chances with your strikes than you would with MMA gloves. And thats why so many K1 fighters have been KO even though technically there striking is better.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
k-1 is muy tai...muy tai is seen in mma....end of debate!
im not going to have an our long discussion about this so say what you want…. you obviously seem to think k-1 gloves dont hurt!…i guess dudes in k-1 got gloves on their feet and knees too!
im over it…debate yourself on this issue
by John G. on Jan 10, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
muay thai
and yes, punches still hurt even with 10oz gloves. My guess is that you can “slide off” punches better due to all the contact area.
I never said that K1 gloves don't hurt John G
And I agree K1 styles can help but it’s not as big an advantage as many think. Just because your in K1 does not prove that you would be as an effective striker in MMA is all I’m saying and Overeem has yet to prove he is elite striker in MMA. When he faced Paul Buentello, Paul for the short time it was standing was winning the standing battle.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
I forgot
It is common knowlege that K1 gloves cause less damage than MMA gloves and it’s not that they don’t hurt but fighters are much more willing to take a risk with a lot let risk of being KO from a counter as an example.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
ummm
The gloves are to protect the hands…not the opponents face.
You can get 100% the exact fucking same impact with either glove. The only reason MMA gloves are 4oz (compared to 16oz used in K1) is so that the grapplers can, well, grapple.
It pains me to say this but Puck has the point that you can set yourself better for power punches in K1 because there is no fear of a takedown. However…it’s not like Reems power just up and vanishes in MMA. K1 striking is an element of MMA the same was wrestling or BJJ or (European) boxing is. It all contributes. Reem gets full credit for being the top striker in the HW universe the same way that Werdum gets crdit for being the ADCC HW champ.
But whichever gloves are used has no impact on the outcome of the fights…its the fist inside the glove that is connected to the arm and then the fighter which matters.
by StrikerDave on Jan 10, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Striker you got to be joking? Please tell me your joking LOL?
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
joking? what he says is 100% factual.
"never as bad as they appear during their lowest points, never as good as they seem during their highest ones. the very best then must be not just talented but resilient, not just hungry but focused. their sport demands it."
overeeem is by far the most technically well rounded stand up fighter.
with tons of power and speed. he is also the best hw athlete by faaaaar.
"never as bad as they appear during their lowest points, never as good as they seem during their highest ones. the very best then must be not just talented but resilient, not just hungry but focused. their sport demands it."
We will see when he faces a top ten HW for the first time ever
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
100% factual LOL
Far from Roberto fact is 4oz gloves have a greater impact and much higher % of KO someone than 16oz gloves with the same strike. this is common knowlege are you guys really that naive?
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
I love this...
You assigned a percentage for two different outcomes from the SAME punch? LOL.
I love when you revert to its “common knowledge”…PROVE IT.
why would he be joking, it does make complete sense. its known that gloves are used in boxing and what not to protect the hands from breaking.
"He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day and looks like a ***** today." -Tank Abbott.
glove size does make a difference
why do boxers spar with 16 oz gloves but fight with 10oz. if a fighter uses 86 oz glove is that super duper hand protection but still just as dangerous as 4oz gloves?
Just think how retarded that sounds
A 16oz glove will do the same damage as a 4oz, Par for the coarse on Striker education LOL.
But whichever gloves are used has no impact on the outcome of the fights…its the fist inside the glove that is connected to the arm and then the fighter which matters.
No once again Striekr you are wrong if the exact same punch is thrown with 16oz gloves that is thrown with 4oz gloves the 16oz gloves would have less IMPACT. Not to mention that 16oz gloves are easier to block than 4oz.
Imagine a pro boxer using 4oz gloves, do you really think there would be many 12 round fights? No it would be rare if 4oz gloves work boxing styles would change.
Commons sense is not so common hey Striker
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
You arent even using the word education properly...LOL
“if the exact same punch is thrown with 16oz gloves that is thrown with 4oz gloves the 16oz gloves would have less IMPACT.”
False… I have seen a documentary where a robotic arm punched a sensor that could read impact . They showed that MMA gloves offered no impact advantage compared to 16 oz gloves.
“why do boxers spar with 16 oz gloves but fight with 10oz.”
Easy…So you dont hurt your hands in training…duh.
“Commons sense…”
You have no sense at all. You just speak (write) based on what every you guess is right…you never have anything to back it up and you lie.
Badr Hari got arrested for assaulting a doorman
He was wanted by police for some time, and then turned himself in and was in prison for a little bit. He is out now though. Was offered the reserve bout for the Grand Prix but declined.
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by ViolentMike on Jan 10, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
I know how hes stopped
when he fights somewhere where drug testing is required and he delfates 40 pounds
by CoutureisKing on Jan 10, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
True
but i can also see fedor trying to over commit like dufee and get caught and go to sleep.
Sonnen Hows the McDonald's Black belt ?
by TheSpiderWin on Jan 10, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Call me crazy but I would still take Fedor over Reem at the moment. After this tourny I’d like to see him come test the waters in the UFC. If he wins the tourny along with retaining his K-1 and Dream Belts, comes to the UFC capturs their title, somebody could make a case for greatest ever.
"He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day and looks like a ***** today." -Tank Abbott.
I guess so...
If Reem wins this tourney….(beats Fedor and Werdum)
Holds the Dream belt (given)
Holds the K1 World GP belt (timing is the issue, will this tourney be done by next winter)
And isn’t under contract…I think it would be fair to say instant title shot if he entered the UFC. And I really like JDS but if he is the champ then, I see his standing with Reem and that could be a win for Reem.
4 W’s from GOAT…amazing.
by StrikerDave on Jan 10, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
If Reem runs through Werdum, Fedor and Barnett (wishful thinking)
He is undoubtedly the best HW in the world now, the best HW of this generation, and can arguably be considered the GOAT (at HW). And if he does run through the tourny, I will question how much the cuts affected him at 205 at the end of Pride.
JB JB JB JB!! (For all the bass ackwards BJ Penn fans that actually think he will not get blanketed by Fitch.)
Impossible to consider him the best HW in the world right now, considering the competition he fights. Go look at his last ten opponents . . . not a single top-ten opponent.
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yes pootwich...
Thats why I started off my posting by saying, “If Reem wins this tourney…”
But yeah…if he holds the K1 World GP title, Dream title, and Strikeforce title (and beats Werdum, Fedor, and Barnett). Who else can be considered the GOAT…I know, I know….Brock right?
And think if he does all of than and Dana were to not hide his champ from him and allow Reem to sign a short term or non exclusive contract and Reem wins…HE would UNDENIABLY BE THE BEST EVER…nobody else would be even possible to argue against that.
Amazing…another line that can be fixed this year if Reem runs the board in the tourney:
I hate that Vadim Dana and his stupid co-promotion exclusive contracts are preventing us fans from seeing the fights that we want to see.
It’s hilarious that all the arguments claiming that the UFC was untouchable and that everyone else was hiding from the UFC…like I said back then, “it’s the nature of the business.” Only most of us had to sit throught the idiocy that the UFC nuthuggers were blathering on about last year.
by StrikerDave on Jan 10, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Easy there, I wasn’t responding to your post. Maybe I did misunderstand Ulf . . . I thought he was saying “He is undoubtedly the best HW in the world now.”
As for the GOAT, the answer is pretty obvious (Fedor). Even if Overeem wins this tournament, four wins cannot earn him that status. Has he ever beaten a single top-ten heavyweight?
"Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
Fan of: Cole Miller, Dentist Neer, Alan Belcher, Bones Jones, Frank Mir
I take that back, it would only be three wins. Which makes the notion of GOAT even more absurd.
"Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
Fan of: Cole Miller, Dentist Neer, Alan Belcher, Bones Jones, Frank Mir
I four because he would have to sweep the tourney AND go to the UFC and beta the chmap there.
But if Reem beats Fedor, Werdum, Barnett, and Cain…holds the Dream, Strikeforce, UFC and K1 World GP title all at once….
THEN WHO ELSE COULD EVEN BE IN THE ARGUEMENT? Fedor…sorry but this cenario has Reem beating Fedor H2H.
Good points
But he didn’t say anything bout reem getting punched in the face,now we all know he’s no Brock an pat Barry talked up brock alot bout size strength etc an we seen what happened with the Cain fight. But I like pat he’s a cool guy met him once really down to earth but when it comes to picking winners(except pettis) I’ll be going with Fedor over reem an AA over fedor!
by IdontREADthreads-THREADSreadME! on Jan 10, 2011 9:21 AM EST via mobile reply actions
correct me if im wrong
but you would pick Arlovski over Fedor? Is that what your saying?
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Bitch im me!
Yes
I would pick AA 4 out of 10. I’m a little biased since AA is one of my top fighters an I’m not a bangwagon jumper. Just cause he lost(alot lol) I still think he has it in him
by IdontREADthreads-THREADSreadME! on Jan 10, 2011 10:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
thats up for debate
"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.
Bitch im me!
Give Barry a break
He trained with Brock, what’s he supposed to say?
by jtc5150 on Jan 10, 2011 10:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He suppose to say the truth
Alot of people don’t speak that language of truth no more. An I like pat but that dosent stop me from saying we heard what he said before. I’m not a trained fighter who fights for a living I train just cause I love MMA but if someone at my gym has a fight an I know they have a better chance of losing than winning I would say that. An in a fight anybody can win, but u don’t have to praise someone like there god when they clearly have kinks in there armor
by IdontREADthreads-THREADSreadME! on Jan 10, 2011 10:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
the truth? thats just bad P.R
and wouldnt bring in much money no matter how morally correct it may be lol
anyone elses Mania page not working quite right?
just signed in this morning, but none of the threads update when new comments come up.
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by Jesse Holland on Jan 10, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
I am good now.
LAst night I was in AK’s boat. Fixed for me today.
JB JB JB JB!! (For all the bass ackwards BJ Penn fans that actually think he will not get blanketed by Fitch.)
Uh...
please add “no homo” — for your own sake
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by Jesse Holland on Jan 10, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
HA
Not gonna do it. My wife and daughter’s gave me a life-long “no homo” pass. ;)
JB JB JB JB!! (For all the bass ackwards BJ Penn fans that actually think he will not get blanketed by Fitch.)
tom cruise is married and has a kid
does that make him not gay? hardly think so!
Have you seen the ass that Cruise has pulled?
He is the pimpin’est gay man I have ever seen. Besides, the Scientologists don’t believe in homosexuality, so he can’t be gay. just short.
JB JB JB JB!! (For all the bass ackwards BJ Penn fans that actually think he will not get blanketed by Fitch.)
i think they also have a problem with sanity
but not so sure
just giving you shit though ;)
I know
but I have to respond, even if I will never use “no homo”.
JB JB JB JB!! (For all the bass ackwards BJ Penn fans that actually think he will not get blanketed by Fitch.)
(handing you my certified DNA card from my daughters)
No…it’s not.
JB JB JB JB!! (For all the bass ackwards BJ Penn fans that actually think he will not get blanketed by Fitch.)
Pat Barry said the same thing about Brock Lesnar.
Excuse my emotional, reactionary, fanatic output but Pettis will be the next UFC lightweight champion. Period.
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I was going to say the same thing.
Pat Barry is probably the kiss of death.
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Lets not forget
This guy was knocked out by Chuck Liddell in the 1st round in Pride.. well he was winning the round until just before the knockout
correct me if im wrong
but wasnt he a stringbean for the liddell fight?
he was only 23
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am i the only one who thinks he didnt juice?
he built his muscle with such natural progression, it just doesnt seem likely to me
"I don't think Diego Sanchez belongs at 170. He does not look good at 170." - Dana White after Diego's loss to Hathaway
"I love Diego Sanchez at 170." - Dana White after Diego's victory over Paulo Thiago
Gotta love a president that sticks to his guns...
id say you are yeah.
no way you get that huge from ages 25-31 without juicing
he is literally 4 times the size.
Bazinga!
Literally?
“he is literally 4 times the size.”
So he was a size 44R in 2004 but now he is a size 176L? LOL
He is not 4 times the size. I hate to break it to you but a professional athlete that works out “2-a-days” for 6 years can easily…and I mean easily bulk up like that over 6 years. I remember as a skinny (and I mean concentration camp skinny) kid in high school my gym teacher said that if you work out regularly and well, combined with a good diet that you can basically become a body builder in 2 years. I beleived him and went to it…kind of half assed in retrospect and I went from 6’2" 165 lbs to 6’2" 225lbs of lean muscle in about 4.5 years. And I was just a student that was smoking, drinking, and screwing most of that time (well not screwing as much as i wanted to but spending TONS of time pursuing that venture)….not working out like a pro athlete that is training at Golden Glory for SIX years.
Sorry but this IS a completely within the scope of reason for this growth. Many are just used to seeing fighter cut weight rather than bulk up. If it had happened way, way faster or he…you know pissed hot I would have doubts but he is clean as far as I am concerned…at least until proven otherwise.
by StrikerDave on Jan 10, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you are correct, he is 4 times the size
But thats because the maker of this bullshit made the 2008-2009 picture 4 times bigger than the 2003 gif!
If you want to compare, make the pictures the same size.
It disappoints me when some vocal people in cyberspace hide behind a pseudonym and make malicious and baseless attacks against athletes that have never failed a screen for banned substances. These keyboard toxicologists think that they can merely look at an athlete and "know" that so-and-so is a "juicer." There is a term for that. It's called "delusions of grandeur," and medication may help. (Dr. Johnny Benjamin)
Even when he was a HW in 06 & 07 he got KO or TKO by LHW fighters
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
i dont think so either
He has completely devoted his whole lifestyle to being a HW, eating 8 times a day. He already was big at LHW but he was too tall for that weight that why he seems so skinny but back than he was already ripped
Edson Barboza and Charles Oliveira are gonna stir up the pot at 155!
by robinhorobson on Jan 10, 2011 11:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
your chin is your chin no matter how big you get
That being said He’s been knocked out by guys that were capable of knocking any human out. So IMO his chin isn’t suspect.
"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be a mile from them, and you'll have their shoes." - Jack Handy
by PSYQO78 on Jan 10, 2011 10:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not to mention I thought he had valid excuses for his losses during his interview with the Voice.
And for everybody screaming that he has a weak chin, if he had a weak chin . . .
Tyrone Sprong, Saki, Ben Edwards and the rest of the K-1 fighters would have exposed him already? Correct?
It’s either that or everybody likes to look to the past, and run a narrative they believe to be true to death.
Excuse my emotional, reactionary, fanatic output but Pettis will be the next UFC lightweight champion. Period.
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VEe is ANIMated!
by VeeisAnimated on Jan 10, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
i'm not saying he has a weak chin
but his boxing defense in k-1 is a thing of beauty, hopefully it will translate just as good in today’s mma
Overeem folds
As soon as he can’t bully his opponent.
I am the WAMMA Light Heavyweight Champion
Just like he folded against Spong or how he survived the early onslaught of Ben Edwards
Edson Barboza and Charles Oliveira are gonna stir up the pot at 155!
by robinhorobson on Jan 10, 2011 11:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Get off his dick a little Pat
Said exactly the same thing about brock
by MrLopez on Jan 10, 2011 10:15 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Fence Jumper
Wasn’t Barry praising Brock’s newfound kickboxing dedication just 3 short months ago, and how he didn’t see anyone beating Brock anytime soon?
Is Reem paying Barry to spar with him?
JB JB JB JB!! (For all the bass ackwards BJ Penn fans that actually think he will not get blanketed by Fitch.)
thats true ulf but...
youre always gonna talk up the guy youre training with…fuck, i still think serra’s a top 10 welterweight – not cuz of any legitimate basis, but because i know the guy and train with him
"I don't think Diego Sanchez belongs at 170. He does not look good at 170." - Dana White after Diego's loss to Hathaway
"I love Diego Sanchez at 170." - Dana White after Diego's victory over Paulo Thiago
Gotta love a president that sticks to his guns...
i still think serra’s a top 10 welterweight
I’m so sorry…
jk
JB JB JB JB!! (For all the bass ackwards BJ Penn fans that actually think he will not get blanketed by Fitch.)
im sorry too
it can only lead to disappointment lol
"I don't think Diego Sanchez belongs at 170. He does not look good at 170." - Dana White after Diego's loss to Hathaway
"I love Diego Sanchez at 170." - Dana White after Diego's victory over Paulo Thiago
Gotta love a president that sticks to his guns...
A CLOSE TO UNSTOPPABLE AS YOU GET . . . . .
I would be happier to put money on Alistair to win a fight at the moment than any other fighter. He is in a scary place right now, his size, his confidence, his winning streak, it just seems he is out to prove a point and will win at any cause. I see him beating everyone in this tournament. At this stage of their careers.
feel safest betting on overeem over any other fighter?
Have you heard of GSP?
mondaymorningblackbelt.com"
by daniel worby on Jan 10, 2011 11:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
ok dutch guy here about the juicing statements..
Go watch his documentary and find out he trains with " strongest man in the world athletes" to build strenght + he eats ALOT of meat/fish whatever. u go do that everyday for teh next 2 years and come back and tell me how big u became.
good job, taking a stand!! (jk)
JB JB JB JB!! (For all the bass ackwards BJ Penn fans that actually think he will not get blanketed by Fitch.)
Overeem will ko fedor that is all
Sonnen Hows the McDonald's Black belt ?
Long time lurker first time poster...
I think that Overeem has a great chance at walking away from this thing retaining his title. Just as good of a chance as a fading Fedor for sure. I’m just wondering if anyone thinks the public is sleeping on Arlovski on this one?
the only one doing any sleeping here
is arlovski. Sadly, he’s done
Haha!
Sad that I actually LOL’d to that being a huge Arlovski fan. I would love to see the Pitbull make a comeback.. Personally I think he is completley able…just has had a string of bad luck mixed with a seemingly weak chin.
i didn't get to see arlovski in his prime
so it’s his latests fights that are engraved in my memory but he seems one of those fighters that refuses to use any other tool. If his background is sambo and he used to be great at it, why does he never go for at least an armbar? he’s just infatuated with the striking and that hasn’t really worked well for him as of late.
he could come back but he needs to try and mixing it up, you can’t build glory on being one dimensional and everyone knows what to expect from you
Holy crap this tourneys so sick!
I’m rooting for fedor 2 reclaim his thrown as the best ever! If reem gets by Werdum looks like every1’s writing him off already. He’s guna knock Reem the fuck out.
" Hello people who I still don't remember your names & who mean nothing to me. "- Peter Griffin
by d*locc on Jan 10, 2011 1:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I think it's more fans want to see Overeem vs Fedor than Werdum vs Fedor? I know I'm hoping for that scenerio more than Werdum vs Fedor?
The ultimate would be if Barnett vs Fedor for the final for me though!
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Fedor and Overeem...
I’d give those 2 a good shot at beating any UFC HWs besides Cain. I actually got them ranked 3 & 4 overall behind Cain and JDS. I also think Werdum,Big Foot, and Barnett can claim top 10 overall HWs … bout time Strikeforce did something to steal some of the UFC spotlight.
Can we stop calling this marketing ploy a "tournament"
Its not. Its a weak way to get free PR for the 2 weak fights.
Its amazing how SF gets all this praise for signing fights they should have done a year ago.
How many people ACTUALLY think they can sign the other 2 quarters and the semis without a hitch.
I am the WAMMA Light Heavyweight Champion
why is everyone giving
werdum so much credit??? he got ktfo in the ufc and got kicked out. he had a good win over big foot. and i hate to say it cause i hate fedor…. but werdum got lucky in that one. fedor made a mistake is all he did…. werdum isnt top hw in my opinion. but he may proove me wrong
there should be a faq in this site and be a required reading
for the fucking last time:
WERDUM DIDN’T GET CUT, he just couldn’t come to terms with the ufc and didn’t renew his contract
Getting KTFO
In 1 min against a newbie hurts your bargaining power.
I am the WAMMA Light Heavyweight Champion
by Reality_Jockey on Jan 10, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Although
The UFC did terminate his contract. Its not like JDS was his last fight and they were negotiating a new one.
I am the WAMMA Light Heavyweight Champion
by Reality_Jockey on Jan 10, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
It's not that I don't agree with Pat Barry
In fact I do.
The fact that he develops deep, heartfelt, mancrushes on other fighters is a concern.
"I knew i ‘urt ‘im, when he said aarg" – GSP
I kinda agree with Pat Barry's assessment
although I really want to see how he does in this SF tourney. Ask Dana about Alistair and he’ll tell you he was finished by Chuck Liddell so what kind of a HW can he be….of course he references a fight that happened in 2003 and not like the guy has made any improvement since then. Typical DW being less than respectful of guys who don’t fight in the UFC
I was never a fan of Overeem
Mostly due to the drumming he put on crocop’s balls. Recently he has proven to me he is legit and I am a huge fan and enjoy watching him fight.
Isn't there ways to beat a drug test?
Fighters like chael sonnon and leben should take note. Maybe the testing is different in the states..
by Jesse13 on Jan 10, 2011 4:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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