UFC Quick Quote: Kenny Florian hires wrestling coach, plans to return in early 2011
by James Kimball on Sep 8, 2010 4:06 PM EDT
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"It looks like my training team wants me to fight in another five months. I'm more motivated than ever. I'm pissed, to be honest. I want to crush my training. That's what I'm focused on right now. I just hired the assistant wrestling coach at Boston University (Sean Gray) to be my wrestling coach here in Boston and I have other plans for a lot of other things as far as training goes... Losses are blessings in disguise I've never been more motivated in my life. I kind of feel like this was one of the most frustrating losses that I've ever had and it was a fight I definitely learned a lot from. I'm very motivated and I had to come back to training quickly. I've already started training and did a hard conditioning session (Tuesday). I'm just motivated to work very hard and get right back into it... I need to make sure my game is capable of beating everybody in every aspect and it wasn't. So, I've been doing wrestling every single day. I've been watching wrestling and researching wrestling every single day."
Coming off a tough defeat at the hands, and takedowns, of Gray Maynard at UFC 118, Kenny Florian told Bruce Buffer on his Sherdog radio show that he is remotivated and ready to overhaul his game to become a more all-around fighter. "The Bully" used his superior wrestling to outpoint Florian en route to a unanimous decision and earn himself a title shot against Frankie Edgar. The first step in this rebirth is the hiring of a wrestling coach to help him better prepare for the top wrestlers in the 155-pound division. Anybody think this move will finally put Kenny over the top? Who do you think would be a good match up for him when he returns to the Octagon this winter?
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Still gonna choke in the big fights...
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Why hasn't he done this before?.....
I don’t understand why all these fighters don’t have coaches for the specific elements… You see it all the time.. I just don’t see why you wouldn’t have these people with you ALL THE TIME… not just when you realize you need one..
I'm sure it gets expensive
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 8, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Sure it’s expensive. But the guy is based out of Boston, I’m sure he is retaining his position at BU. Not like Kenny is paying the guy full salary. Even so Florian is a top fighter in the UFC and he should be able to afford this. Going into a fight with Gray freaking Maynard how did he not already do this?! Every top guy in the UFC needs a great wrestling coach IMHO to avoid the layNpray. People complain about wrestlers but it’s like people say defense wins championships well, wrestling wins championship belts. Complain if you want but it’s just as much the fighter’s fault who can’t defend a takedown. As MMA evolves takedown defense will become more widespread and the styles will be more balanced. You really do need to know everything these days. Anyways long ramble to agree with RayRay. He should have done this years ago! He’s had what two or three title shots now? And he’s been in UFC for how many years? Not like he’s an up and coming youngster still living at his mom’s. In Boston, Kenny is the man. Like GSP in Vancouver.
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Sep 8, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
He worked with GSP that had him feeling confident, I guess he just didn't realize how far behind the wrestling curve he was.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 8, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Kenny has Predo Rizzo sundrome
He folds in the big game but hopefull he pulls a peyton manning and wins his super bowl.
GSP is a great wrestler, but he may not be the best coach for it.
I think that GSP is one of the best MMA wrestlers due to his freak athleticism! You can’t train that and obviously Kenny does not have that. So since GSP hasn’t been in wrestling his whole life, he probably can’t teach it well. And yea it’s about fn time Kenny!!! Everyone should have a top wrestler in their camp!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
2 YEARS
it’ll be about 2 yrs and most elite fighters will be back up to par on their wrestling… it rotates every few years. More young wrestlers are now able to develope their standup a lot quicker than they use to. In order to have good defensive wrestling mma fighters nowadays need to learn how to execute offense as well. Kenny has more problems than just his wrestling though, he needs to put about 5lbs muscle on his upperbody, he’s kinda tall for a 155lbr so that will require more of a weight cut, hope he can handle it.
Got out muscled
It just wasn’t Kenny’s lack of wrestling that got him beat, he also looked extremely fatigued because he simply got manhandled. He is looking “anorexic” and I don’t know if it’s just because of the diet he’s on or because he cuts to much weight? Whatever the case is, he should just put on more muscle, train mostly wrestling and alter his diet for more protein. He should worry about the weight cut later., he needs to train Neaderthal style!
nea'n'derthal
correction… in case the spell nazi’s r patroling today
3rd rd.. you were down 2 rds.. why Kenny? Why didn't you go for broke?!?!
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 8, 2010 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
Thats what I question too.
Regardless, his wrestling is definitely his biggest weakness so this wont hurt but….at a certain point in the fight he should been saying (or more likely his d-bag brother, his main cornerman should have been saying) “your down 2 rounds, you need to make something happen this round.”
They were telling him. He didn't listen.
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by BNF on Sep 8, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Kenny's problem is he's more of a counter puncher, and when he does go on the offensive he uses his feet to set it up.
He couldn’t do that against Maynard cause he was worried about the takedown. Kenny is the man though he’ll come back better for sure, that’s what he does, he’s like a Sayan (nerd joke)
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 8, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
+1 for the dragonball z reference
KA MEE AAH MEE AAH kenny= goku
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by robinhorobson on Sep 8, 2010 4:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I hate his fn brother!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
this guy does have the work ethic (bj could learn a thing or two)
He always comes back way better after a loss.
And you can tell that he is motivated,
I still think he can be a lw champ, it isnt something mental like dana said he just lost a wrestling match
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2. Anthony ''Showtime'' Pettis
3. Phil ''Mr. Wonderful'' Davis
4. Terry Etim
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by robinhorobson on Sep 8, 2010 4:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
explain?
He should develop a stronger guard game?
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 8, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He’ll NEVER be a better wrestler than Gray Maynard. He needs to work on avoiding/defending the takedown and fixing the mental blocks that prevent him from utilizing his potent offense in high profile fights.
Lost me
In order to improve your TDD wouldn’t that involve doing some wrassling work?
Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.
Well you did get me there, I was just about to correct myself on that. YES hiring the wrestling coach could point to Kenny wanting to improve his TDD.
But to me it seems like Kenny believes “he needs to be a better wrestler” than someone like Gray in order to beat them.
From what he’s said publicly about his 118 performance, he doesn’t seem to think his gameplan was to blame.
Personally I think Kenny’s reluctance to pull the trigger on much of anything gave Gray the greenlight to take him down.
good points
dont’ have a problem with any of this. Kenny is a much better fighter than he demonstrated in that fight. I also agree that it is stupid to try to out-wrassle a wrassler. But if he could learn enough and get strong enough to avoid getting put on his ass, it will open up other shit for him.
Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.
it is stupid to try to out-wrassle a wrassler.
MMA will always be dominated by wrestlers until the next 2-3 generations come along (where fighters will have been doing every aspect since kindergarden. You just CANT stop guys from getting you down and getting position when they have literally spent their entire lives from 3yrs and up wrestling. Its why Wrestling is the best base for MMA and will continue to be.
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by *Californication* on Sep 8, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
No offence, but I think that you’ve got the wrong take on his actions. I don’t think his aim is to be as good or better than Maynard…he’s just recognised that wrestling is his weakness and wants to improve…
In all, its the correct mentality to have. Its certainly better than someone like Anthony Njokuani, who we all know has sub-par wrestling, who lost to Shane Roller then went on to claim that wrestling was akin to ‘making love’.
What the ancients called a clever fighter is one who not only wins, but excels in winning with ease.
-Sun Tze
None taken!
he’s just recognised that wrestling is his weakness and wants to improve…
I suppose what I’m saying is, his wrestling ISN’T the weakness that caused him to lose at UFC118. His inferior wrestling isn’t what made him stand in front of Gray for 15 minutes waiting to be taken down.
Kenny didn’t lose at 118 because of his lack of wrestling talent, he lost because he didn’t utilize any of the numerous advantages he held over Gray Maynard.
Yeah but I think the reason he didn't use them was because he knew he couldn't win the fight off his back and that's where he was gonna end up if he let go.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 8, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, but at the same time, shouldn’t Kenny also know he can’t win the fight standing where he was doing… nothing at all?
You’re echoing the problem of Kenny’s gameplan. He knew Gray had better wrestling, so he didn’t engage… sooo, how exactly was he planning on winning that fight? He LET gray use his advantages and did nothing with his own.
He showed a complete lack of situational awareness and that’s my main problem with his performance.
Please explain what he should have done in this imaginary perfect gameplan.
It really doesn’t matter how good your striking is if you can’t stop the takedown. Being more aggressive only makes it easier to be taken down. if he doesn’t improve his TDD he’ll never beat a Gray or a Sherk.
Chael Sonnen: Last time I defeated the myth, this time I'll defeat the man.
So...hyped...
and being more of a threat from his back wouldn't hurt.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 8, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I already did explain what. Mounted an offense, especially in the third when it became plainly apparent he was losing.
Your logic seems to be that it’s ok for kenny to do nothing to win if he’s outmatched wrestling.
My logic is that in the face of being outmatched as a wrestler, you try and use what advantages you DO have to win.
The advantages he had were liabilitys
they’ed get him taken down, we’re pretty much in agreement here Kenny is too good to perform like that in a fight.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 8, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
it's not so easy nastyem, when u know that one single takedown completely changes the judges scorecards.
Gray knew that and Kenny knew that and that’s why it’s so easy to perform as a great wrestler all you have to do is go out there and take your opponent down and keep them there. Gray was always going to get that takedown and Kenny just ain’t powerful enough with his strikes or overall strength to stop that from happening.
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Still beating that drum I see....
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He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 8, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I am adding this to Troll's rivalry list
Roberto vs. Wrasslin
Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.
lol, haven't u watched mma the last couple years or what?
it’s no secret that wrestlers are the most successful athletes in mma and that wrestling is the most important discipline to be good at. Takedowns are prioritized in the UFC.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
you don't know what you're talking about...
there’s like at least 5-10 ppl in the last 2 days that have told you as much and probably 100’s in the last couple years. heed their advice.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 8, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Shogun Rua a wrestler?
Is Lyoto Machida a wrestler?
Is Anderson Silva a wrestler?
Is Jose Aldo a wrestler?
Was BJ Penn a wrestler?
Get at me when you actually have an opinion not swayed by your own personal bias against wrestling.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 8, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he means that overall, wrestlers normally find the most success. Although most fighters are now ‘mixed’ martial artists, in general, it is the wrestling based fighters that tend to go on to become top-tier contenders.
However, this doesn’t mean that non-wrestling based fighters won’t go on to achieve success, like you mentioned in your list.
What the ancients called a clever fighter is one who not only wins, but excels in winning with ease.
-Sun Tze
I seen a really great Wrestler named King Mo get owned recently
By Calvacante so it’s not “wrestling” it’s the individuals involved, wrestling only stands out cause most people happen to find it boring.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 8, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
of course it's the individuals, but Cavalcante had to defend a lot of takedown attempts and showed some nice TDD not every fighter is able to stuff Mo's TD attempts.
I would say it’s common knowledge that wrestling is the best base for MMA. It’s also a known fact that the UFC judges and other judges score heavy on takedowns. More and more fighters come in with the strategy of taking their opponent down and wrestlers are the ppl getting into MMA at the moment. Almost every american mma fighter comes from a wrestling background.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
simply put , winning the wrestling and landing on top is the easiest way of winning a fight.
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There are just as many non wrestling Champs as there are wrestling Champs
Your only point here is that you don’t like wrestling cause it’s boring.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 9, 2010 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions
There are just as many non wrestling Champs as there are wrestling Champs
Your only point here is that you don’t like wrestling cause it’s boring.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 9, 2010 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree that wrestling is the most important disiplin to have.
3 of the 5 champs are great wrestlers. and shad might be the 4th, but I really hope he isn’t. So in the 155, 170, 185, 205, and 265 all the number 2 guys are wrestlers. Gray, KOS, Sonnen, Rashad (maybe not number 2, but has a title fight) and Carwin. Pretty crazy when you think about it.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
I dont' see how Edgar gets labeled a wrestler just cause he has a wrestling background
He won the title with boxing and footwork; and most of his fights stay standing. Carwin usually gets the KO from the standing position as well.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 9, 2010 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions
And if I was to go outside the UFC and look at SF/WEC champs you'd see
Nick Diaz – not a wrestler
Calvacante – not a wrestler
Alistair Overeem – not a wrestler
Aldo – not a wrestler
For wrestling being the most important base to have it sure does seem like there’s a lot of talented people that find a way around that = /
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 9, 2010 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions
And check out the top 10 p4p list according to mmaplayground right now
Was done by reader votes.
#1Georges St. Pierre 20.21%
- Anderson Silva 19.02%
- Jose Aldo 12.67%
- Mauricio Rua 12.24%
- Fedor Emelianenko 9.72%
- Frankie Edgar 8.50%
- Lyoto Machida 6.00%
- BJ Penn 4.30%
- Brock Lesnar 4.22%
- Jake Shields
Out of those 10 names you’ve got 4 that you could label wrestlers.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 9, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Just bc someone doesn't always use their wrestling it doesn't mean it doesn't help them!
A lot of times people worry about being taken down when you fight a wrestler, hence better stand up for the wrestler. And there are exceptions to every rule. With the talent pool being so much less outside the UFC anything can happen. UFC has the most fighters and that results in a more true study. The wrestlers rise to the top.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
Go look at every top 10 list for every weight class at MMA WEEKLY.com
and you’ll see 4 guys in each division at the most that you can label “wrestler”. They’re not dominating like you guys are making it out.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 9, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
170 lbs division has 5 wrestlers in the top 10
That’s still another 5 guys that AREN’T wrestlers that made it into the top 10.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 9, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea but how many disciplines are there?
Wrestling is just one of them. So if that’s just one out of, what? maybe 4 or 5? So the percentage is higher than any one other specific area. You are comparing wrestling to all others, but you need to compare it to each specific discipline. Wresting wins hands down.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
look at who's on the P4P list
I could say the same about Muay Thai or BJJ; Aldo Muay Thai/BJJ; A. Silva Muay Thai/BJJ; Rua is Muay Thia/BJJ; there are other highly successful skills employed; I think wrestling is a great base and an important skill, but imo it’s way overrated. To say a guy wins just cause he’s a wrestler and wrestling is the easiest way to win a fight imo is just untrue.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 9, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you mean to put "was" when you referenced BJ?
Guess he is dead to you. I know people stop being fans after a loss sometimes but geez….
To be the best you gotta be one crazy son of a bitch…and that’s the truth - BJ Penn
by BNF on Sep 8, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol it has nothing to do with a loss
I’m still a fan “was” was referring to champion; as some ppl understandably may not consider him to be right now. I shoulda put the “was” infront of Machida too; but to clarify no, I am not a wagon jumper, I still support BJ Penn 100% .
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 8, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn Roberto'''
u actually made sense there… way to go! keep em coming
lol you must be Roberto's 2nd account
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 8, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats another way of looking at it, and after giving it some thought, you might be right. Kenny does (theoretically) have more advantages than Maynard, or so one might have thought…however, if he couldn’t utilise those advantages because of Maynard’s wrestling, thats another debate.
What the ancients called a clever fighter is one who not only wins, but excels in winning with ease.
-Sun Tze
True!
but you could also use Shane Roller Vs Athony Pettis as an example… on how you deal with a 1-dimensional wrestler! You move around a lot, keep the distance, get angles, go for TD of your own (even if your not succesfull) and most important of all, just try to hurt the wrestler as much as you can before you get taken down. Cause you will at some point, but for the fight in general and later rounds AND for the judges… be aggressive without over-extending!
As hard as it is for your conditioning being at the bottom, its hard for a wrestler chasing you around and holding his hands up, especially if they arent relaxed in the standup! And TDD defence AND getting of your back at any cost FTW! Tired wrestlers are prone for KO!
by Zlatan, My Hero on Sep 9, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Talk about polar opposites
this is exactly what I wanted to hear from Kenny. “I am going to work harder on my wrasslin”. Perfect. The only thing that would make me happier than this is to hear Chael say “I am going to work on sub defense”.
Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.
Or BJ to say "I'm going to work"
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
ouch
low blow gregy, low blow.
Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.
Sorry buddy, I couldn't resist.
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Good thats exactly how Florian should feel after losing to Maynard
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it’s interesting how the color commentary for the UFC will come out in the 3rd sometimes and suddenly say “so and so is down 2 rounds now,” when if you go back and watch the fight again, and listen to their commentary, it doesn’t always reflect a dominating couple of rounds by the guy they’ve chosen.
I’ll give Gray one dominated, clear 10-9 round in that fight, the other 2? he danced until he got a takedown. they did a similar thing when Diego fought karo awhile back. i went back and watched the fight, and what went from a fight that was easily 1 round to 1, hardly a clear 2-0 in terms of rounds thus far, the 3rd round begins and it’s “Diego’s got this in the bag, 2 rounds for him so far!!!!! lolz fuuuuuu”
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by theworldsoldestsport on Sep 8, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions
Even with that being the case
At some point he had to know half way or 3/4 the way through the 3rd rd that he was losing. So why not just go all out?
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 8, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I Hate KENNY f. too late if kennyt wanted to work on his wrestling he sould have
already with GSP and FARAAS and everyone at Jackson’s MMA
What a crock of bull ….On some espns mma show kenny asked chael s. for help but i guess kenny wasnt serious … kenny is a class a douche baggie
you really must be Dana White to bash someone as humble as Kenny is.
by MrTechnique420 on Sep 8, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
why why why?...
why the Kenny hate?…. who r your favorite fighters’…. don’t tell me Frank Mir?
BJ had problems with Frankies speed as displayed in the first fight,
and it was this speed that made his wrestling more explosive. BJ has beaten Matt Hughes once and was completely owning him again before he injured his rib, he has also beaten Sherk ,so you really cannot say he has a problem with wrestlers as such, Frankie was just too damn quick for him and mostly every body else he has fought. It is also the phenomenal pace he sets that is a major factor in his wins.
by Ade on Sep 9, 2010 4:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Kenny Florian vs. Tyson Griffin
See if Tyson is smart enough to try and take Kenny down. See if Kenny can stop a take down from a decent wrestler.
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I’d take watching Kenny over watching Gray anyday.
"A lot of times, you beat a person who beat a person who can beat you. I mean, it doesn’t make any sense." – Joe Rogan
I think this is a wise decision by Kenny but his weakness is not his wrestling it’s his strength. Kenny is a small 155 and when he fights strong wrestlers like Maynard they will just out muscle him. He can have the perfect sprawls against maynard but it wouldn’t really matter since maynard will just pick him up and dump him to the ground. I think Kenny is a great fighter bit unfortunately will never be the champion.
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