Georges St. Pierre: 'Skill-wise and tactically, I'm the best fighter in the world' (Video)
by Jesse Holland on Sep 7, 2010 7:07 PM EDT
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Kos has about as much chance of winning this fight
As xxBAxx has of winning any discussion on this website……FAIL!!!
10-08-28 BJ Penn exposed for the 7th time!!!!
I think Kos has the potential to be the most competitive fight he's had
He’s always had a set gameplan to deal with a striker or wrestler, Fitch, Alves and Hardy might be better at one discipline or another then Kos but none are imo as well rounded as Kos. I still think GSP is a little bit better in every area, but Kos will give him a good fight.
Also can’t really argue with this, after the Penn fight and the Silva fight, who can really be considered a better technical fighter than GSP?
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
technical fighter? anderson is a better technician in everything but wrestling.
there are plenty of guys out there who are better bjj guys than GSP and better strikers too.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
No one puts it all together as well as Georges does
Being better in one area does not make you a better technical mma practitioner. A. Silva has some serious work to do on his wrestling.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed. GSP is the best wrestler, Anderson is better at everything else.
BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.
He does not use his tools as well as GSP does
He does not mix it up like Georges and move from striking to wrestling to submission back to striking again etc.. He can be better at everything if he wants, but he still doesn’t put it all together as well as GSP does in an MMA fight.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
gsp mixes it up the same in every fight, i don't understand? everybody knows what he is going to do.
He fights the same in every fight. It’s just that he’s so strong and explosive that his takedown is impossible to stop.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
excactly, "mixes it up" is something people say to make him seem like he fights everywhere.
After a couple take-downs his opponents are out of the fight, so he can strike or do whatever the fuck he wants. You guys make it seem like he is such a great striker, he is average.
BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.
And Penn is one of the best....too bad I never saw any of that in his fights against Edgar
GSP’s standup is much better than average – too bad he doesn’t use it more.
10-08-28 BJ Penn exposed for the 7th time!!!!
by hairybumcrack on Sep 7, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok so he's an average striker
And an ELITE MMA fighter that is probably the best technical MMA fighter there is. A. Silva can be better at Jits and striking, GSP is better at MMA.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You said it perfectly. I totally agree
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 7, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
that's where you're wrong..
wrestling is only one martial art, and it just so happens that it’s the least dangerous martial art it’s more about control and avoiding damage.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
He uses everything else to make hi wrestling of better use tho...
so I dont really understand what you mean by that
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 7, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
zzzzz
If wrestling was all he had he’d have been beaten long ago. He’s got all the skills, he submitted Matt Hughes, who is an awesome grappler in his own right. Fitch gets in with Georges and gets destroyed, standing and on the ground. If all GSP had was wrestling he wouldn’t be able to rely on his other tools and he is able to.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed!!!!
Can’t believe how blind some people are…..
10-08-28 BJ Penn exposed for the 7th time!!!!
by hairybumcrack on Sep 7, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
of course he is.
how are you going to stop the best wrestler in the division? no one is good enough to stop his shot.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
zzzz
He’s not “laying” on anybody, are you blind? someone posted the fight metric stats in an earlier thread on the Hardy fight. 3 sub attempts, 8 transitions to side mount, 3 transitions to mount, he is not laying in someones guard holding on for dear life. That’s fuckin hater talk.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
That doesn't change the fact
That he’s as boring as hell to watch. I was more entertained by silva’s dancing against damian than the gsp hardy fight that was a snoozer
by soupdz28 on Sep 7, 2010 8:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
agreed.
by the way just in, todd duffee cut by the ufc.
BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.
News to me
Wonder wtf?? Not like he had a losing streak yet, looked like a promising prospect imo.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Something's wrong with you then
Cause at least GSP was TRYING to do something, anything, A. Silva wasn’t even throwing a damn punch.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe
But gsp never has any intentions of putting on an exciting fight he just wants a win so he can talk about how good he is. And most skilled in the world? No. Division yes. But I find it pretty cocky especially with guys like Anderson, jose Aldo, shogun and other guys like that out there. If e was really confident in his SKILL he would have no worries fighting at 185 and proving it against silva right?
by soupdz28 on Sep 7, 2010 8:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
especially since he is obviously a natural 185er
BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.
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Aldo is only 2 fights into his title reign, not sure why you guys do this but you see someone (ie. Machida) and 3 fights into their carreer everyone’s like “OMG He’s the greatest ever!!”. Come back with that argument after Aldo has as many title defenses as GSP has; Anderson just got his ass kicked for 4 rds; something no one has ever done to GSP. Shogun hasn’t even defended the belt ONCE. Come up with some better examples.
Right now, today, as of present GSP is the best P4P fighter in the world. Fedor Lost, Penn Lost, A. Silva got his ass kicked for 20 mins showing his wrestling deficiency before locking in a miracle sub; Lesnar hasn’t had the time, Aldo hasn’t had the time yet to make those claims on him. I don’t even know how this is an argument, right now he’s a dominant champ and every other guy mentioned has looked like crap lately.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
So?
Hughes never beat the shit ou of gsp? And Anderson gets a bad rap for winnin after being mauled for 4 rounds yet GSP eta finish in the first buy a midget and he still the best? And shogun is in a division with MUCH more legitimate talent I don’t really think any fighter would be super dominant of
by soupdz28 on Sep 8, 2010 1:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No, Hughes never beat the shit out of GSP.
He submitted him at the end of a round he was losing on the judges scorecards. So no, he didn’t.
And Anderson gets a “bad rap” as you put it because was on his way to losing a lopsided decision before pulling out the submission. While he won by stoppage, it was still a much less decisive and dominant victory than GSP winning by decision against Hardy, Alves or Fitch.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
I don't argue that gsp is GREAT
I just think lately his attitude has made him a piece of shit. Anderson fought with a damaged rib, no way in hell would GSP do that he doesn’t take any risks to a point that he is committed to putting on fights that are brin as log a he wins. Also you hardly hear anyone else who is worthy of P4P talk about how how amazing they are, everyone else does it for them. I dunno the guy just rubs me the wrong way only taking a few fights a year and on home turf and such. He gets babied IMO since he I Dana’s big market into Canada, and I title defenses are what important with the rua case then silva ahits on GSP’s face
by soupdz28 on Sep 8, 2010 4:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You must forget that GSP tore his groin in the fight against Alves and never let up.
And I can’t believe that someone prefers Silva over GSP because of GSP’s attitude. That’s one of the most ridiculous things I’ve read on this site.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
It’s funny cause either GSP is too robotic and should shit talk more, or now he’s too cocky and should shut his mouth. The guy really can’t win with some people. I can’t believe Rua is even in the talks. Let the guy have some title defenses first to wash away the memories of Forrest putting it to him and the Coleman fight.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
The ridiculous excuses for not liking him are a testament to how good GSP is.
Since the standard reasons for hating can’t be applied to him (showing vulnerability in fights, facing lesser competition, disrespecting opponents), people who hate him need to come up with ridiculous “explanations” for why they do.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
No no no
I don’t prefer anderson’s attitude to GSP’s just think GSP is a boring fighter and shouldn’t act like he is god’s gift to mma I think Anderson is a cocky prick too lol. And second he tore his abductor muscle DURING the fight so of course he kept going. If he had done it prior I guarantee he would have backed out. I’m just getting really really tired of paying to see wrestling matches so I’d much rather pay to see Anderson than gsp. You can not even watch his fights and know pretty much exactly what happens.
by soupdz28 on Sep 8, 2010 1:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I know what happens in Silva fights when his opponent's don't do exactly as he wants, he dances around like a friggin' fairy.
And you’re not Ms. Cleo so you can’t guarantee what GSP or Silva would do before a fight. And I rarely see GSP pump himself up, let alone act like God’s gift to MMA.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
I agree with soup!
Silva danced how many times? And how many sick fights and highlight finishes does he have? Exactly! You know exactly what GSP is going to do every fight and to me it’s boring as all hell. It’s wrestling with some ground and pound. Silva lighting people up is def more exciting! And if you can get Silva on his back, he will still finish you. GSP dominates and always has top position, yet still can’t finish. It’s almost comical.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
all great plts odamn
but a. silva pulled off the win… even with a bad rib… still have to give him credit for a hero win… I think he gets sonnen again next time with much better performance… but as of now GSP looks like the best p4p in the world
GSP best p4p?
He is almost bigger than all of his opponents and doesn’t even finish them. Silva goes up a weight class (20 lbs) and destroys the ex champ amongst others. While GSP can’t go up 15 lbs and take on tougher competition. Kinda sad and annoying as a fan. Wouldn’t his fans rather see him test himself? He doesn’t care what they want, only to keep winning at 170.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
3 sub attempts? bjj experts have 3 attempts in 1 round and would certainly finish someone like Hardy.
GSP is extremely systematic, his transitions are the same in every fight and he never does anything significant with it, it’s just back to guard and same story all over again.. 3 mount positions and no finish? extremely bad, any real GnP’er KO’s his opponent from there.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
Hey stop saying Jake Shields is not a real GnP'er :)
BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.
GSP inflicts little to no damage with his transitions and alleged GnP. He goes takedown – side mount – other side -back to guard, then the same thing counter clockwise. That’s how he mixes it up.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
zzzzzzz
wrong, Alves was a bloody mess in rd 4; Jon Fitch was a walking Zombie, Hughes finished twice, Serra finished in rd 2. Hardy is the only one recently to get out of there without much on him.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
correct.
But that’s inevitable and the least u can do with advantageous positions for 25 minutes. With all the guard passing and mounts his opponents should be done inside 3 rounds.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
Wrong again
To Jay’s point who else is finishing Alves, Fitch or Hardy in the UFC? Seriously.. who else finished these guys, what example did you see that makes you think these guys should’ve been done in the 3rd rd?
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
jay’s point is kinda irrelevant here since no other fighter is sitting in mount and side guard for 5 rounds against these guys.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
It's not irrelevant when you specifically say
“With all the guard passing and mounts his opponents should be done inside 3 rounds.”
every fight is at LEAST 3 rds, so who the fuck else has finished any of those guys inside 3 rds???
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Who finished them from any position period?
How many years since one of those guys lost a fight other than by decision? Seriously.. what is it you’re trying to prove? That you hold GSP to a higher standard than all other fighters because of how good he is? Maybe that proves my point.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
what are u trying to prove? u said he was the most technical fighter in the world?
I’m saying he’s getting more and more towards a classic wrestler who’s setting up takedowns with strikes.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
only difference is matt hughes, thiago silva
and real gnp fighters stop their opponents when they get into the mount. Anderson Silva’s also been able to finish all of his opponents when it went to the ground.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
Yea, well he went to the ground with Leites that didn't work out to well
And my point, or what I’m trying to prove is that GSP is the best all around mixed martial artist in the game today. You can name better BJJ practitioners, you can name better strikers, hell maybe you can find a better wrestler; but he is the man that puts it ALL together and uses everything to his advantage in the cage. He is the most complete fighter to step into the octagon to date.
Notice on the walk in; every fighter has 3 stats when they come up to the cage; notice one of GSP’s 3 stats is “The Complete Fighter” who the fuck else has that as a stat? Gimme a break Rob, you’re just plain wrong on this issue.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
If A. Silva hadn't gotten completely owned for 4 rds
If BJ Penn hadn’t gotten beat by Frank Edgar twice, you might have an argument; but right now GSP is the best all round MMA practitioner in the game. He’s the most well rounded champion there is. Silva can’t defend wrestling; Sonnen kicked the shit out of him for 4 rds. When’s the last time someone dominated GSP for 20 minutes? WHEN?!?! Matt Serra got a flash ko. Ok..
Didn’t Chonan get a killer sub on A. Silva? Didn’t Takase tap him with a triangle? So lets not act like he never got caught. GSP has NEVER gotten his ass wooped by ANYONE for 20 fucking minutes in ANY fight period. Give it up; he can strike if he wants to, he wrestles cause it’s his dominant strength but he can submit too (see Matt Hughes); he is the most well rounded MMA fighter in the game today. period, it’s not an argument, you ARE wrong.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you not remember Matt Hughes LAYING on Chris Lytle or Matt Serra for 3 rds praying to God they didn't get up and whoop his ass??
Thiago Silva got KO’D by Machida and LnP’d by Rashad; do you just conveniently leave all these little details out of your rebuttles on purpose or what??
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
It's pretty damn obvious to me and most fans.
That the rules inside the octagon and the way judges score is made for wrestlers to shine and dominate. So you coming out now after so long time when that whole discussion about wrestler’s boring fans asses off is surprising. GSP is just like Jon Fitch and Randy Couture at the end of the day, he gets his takedowns and he grinds his opponents into meat for the duration of the bout !
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
O hot damn.... so what you're saying is that getting takedowns is to you being the best and most complete MMA fighter?
GSP is the best MMA wrestler period ! so how could he possibly be “dominated” as you call it for 20 mins in the octagon with the safe first style he himself admits to having? He puts everyone of his opponents on their ass in every round and he repeats it for the entire fight in all of his fights. He is the master of positional wrestling and performing shutouts by controlling other mens bodies, added with some guard passing and a couple lazy sub attempts. His striking is getting more a pure set up for the takedown/wrestling, he only throws jabs, 1-2’s and single strikes.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
the truth is , you don't have to be the best and most complete fighter to win fights.
GSP is no more complete than other fighters and he is not the most talented MMA fighter.. His strong side is just that much better than the rest and that strong side is made to control and shut his opponent down which is exactly what he does. He’s fought guys that are more talented strikers , bjj fighters but he “chokes” their skills by controlling them like any other wrestler does and like Sonnen did to Anderson Silva who is a million times more talented than hardworking Sonnen.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
You don't make much sense
He beats every wrestler, every striker, every BJJ practitioner he goes up against and he’s not well rounded? If he was as 1 dimensional as you claim he’d have been beaten; someone would’ve laid the gameplan down to beat his ass already. The problem is that when they get in there they don’t know if they’re getting punched in the face or taken to the ground. By the 3rd rd these guys have no clue what’s coming next and as a result they can’t stop the TD. That’s a product of a well rounded gameplan and fighter implimenting and executing with elite technical ability.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 8, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
why would he have been beaten?
he gets everyone of his opponents down to the mat ? so does it really matter what type of fighters he fight these days ? no! Only person that’s gonna stop him is someone who’s gonna stop his takedown and knock him out.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
there is no such thing as gameplanning around skill.
theory and reality are two entirely different things. reality is GSP is the best mma wrestler , his timing is too good.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
There's plenty of room for improvement in EVERYONE's game
come on dude…
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I posted that...
But the point I was trying to make is that GSP doenst have the killer instinct to finish guys anymore. Aside from Penn who quit, GSP hasnt had a ref stoppage in 2 1/2 years (Apr 2008) With the dominant fighter he is, there is no excuse why he isnt finishing guys, he’s playing too safe and people are starting to recognize that
by Man_Made_God on Sep 8, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Why would you discount the BJ Penn stoppage as though it were irrelevant?
You make it sound as though BJ just decided not to keep fighting. The fact is he quit so he wouldn’t sustain potentially career ending injuries. If he was fighting a guy who
doenst have the killer instinct to finish guys anymorehe wouldn’t have had to worry about that.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
if gsp ever got the balls to move up to 185 sonnen would murder him
the brockness monster grinds up teenagers and puts them in his protein shakes..and uses razor blades to chop toddlers up into lines to snort like meth...the reason no one can find bigfoot is because the brockness monster found him years ago and now has him in numerous ziplock bags in the back of his freezer...
+1
BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.
sonnen is a much stronger version of gsp...sonnen was able to take down silva at will
and silva is 10 times faster than gsp…much better striker…and sonnen is much stronger and bigger than gsp….he could easily stuff gsp’s shots and hold him down for 15 mins for a victory
the brockness monster grinds up teenagers and puts them in his protein shakes..and uses razor blades to chop toddlers up into lines to snort like meth...the reason no one can find bigfoot is because the brockness monster found him years ago and now has him in numerous ziplock bags in the back of his freezer...
Wow… Sonnen would get his ass handed to him by GSP just because ur man crush Silva got exposed as the p4p most overrated fighter like I said he would doesn’t make Sonnen any better than everyone thought he was before the fight. GSP’s probably even a better striker.
Chael Sonnen: Last time I defeated the myth, this time I'll defeat the man.
So...hyped...
lol
That should be the post of the month because you certainly are lacking vital chromosomes to make that comment.
10-08-28 BJ Penn exposed for the 7th time!!!!
by hairybumcrack on Sep 7, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
No one is good enough to get up from under him either
What do you want him to do Rob? Give up the TD to prove to you he can strike? He striked to set up the TD in the first place. The reason 80% of the fight takes place on the ground is cause it’s a difficult position to recover from. It’s not easy to escape off your back or reverse, why does he have to give up a dominant position??
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I got Wand for that =P no one will ever be as awesome as he is
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
You're wrong. GSP is a great striker. He doesn't have the power...
Or he just doesn’t commit to get the finish standing. But his a tecnhique is superb.
I think he has power. He’s knocked down almost every person he’s fought including Fitch, Hughes and Alves who all have great chins. He doesn’t have Carwin punch power, but I don’t think he’s a pillow fist either.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
yeah. you're right. He just doesn't commit to finishing all the time.
Maybe he’s to cautious. I love wathcing GSP strike though… He’s got beautiful technique.
You say he fights the same every fight
He does EVERYTHING every fight; sure there’s more wrestling than anything else cause once he gets the TD they can’t get out from under him. That TD is set up by good striking, it’s also followed by transitions, GnP and sub attempts, the man uses EVERYTHING that MMA has to offer.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
doesn't mean he's better in those areas than other fighters, cause he's not.
He’s a great explosive wrestler first and foremost with trouble of finishing fights.. If he was the best technical fighter he’d submit all of his opponents kinda like Anderson Silva does, that man is all technique and CLEARLY a bigger talent than Georges is when it comes to fighting, just not wrestling.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
Thats not what OD is saying
He is saying he is the best MMA practitioner because he uses “ALL” of his skill together better than anyone else
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 7, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
You're talking about "areas" still, I'm talking about the overall complete picture of being a complete fighter.
And where was the sub/ko on Leites or Maia?? Cause I must have missed that.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
No kidding...
because AS is better than both of those guys in every aspect except bjj…
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 7, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
2 of the most bizzare performances I’ve ever seen
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
gsp is 80% wrestling 20% standup.
any strikes he throws is just to set up the takedown. He’s throwing jabs out there, not even looking to hurt his opponent.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
Tell that to Fitch
10-08-28 BJ Penn exposed for the 7th time!!!!
by hairybumcrack on Sep 7, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
So he must be over 100% because you forgot his bjj which he used to sub hughes
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 7, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
HHmmm...
he did almost rip Hardy’s arm off too tho.. that was pretty recent in my opinion
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 7, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
yup, but his sub attempt was too weak, a true technician would've finished it right there.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
well according to your theory
then he used some bjj but not enough to be considered part of his tool set? That makes no sense at all. Your grasping for straws dude. Just leave it be
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 7, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
ok.. let me just say, fact is georges is not the best technical fighter and not even close.
he is far from being the biggest mma talent as well. He’s just an ultra explosive athlete with a great shot and great control, everything else is something others do better.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
Who has been able to do better than him?
That is the question then. Name one person who has been better than GSP.
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 7, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
lmao
ok…
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't get me wrong I like Serra
But claiming that was anything but a fluke is ludicrious
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
No
He was just the better man that day.
He threw punches and they landed.
Since that fight, GSP has been a shadow of his former self.
He used to be an exciting fighter, now he is a tackling machine.
by K S on Sep 8, 2010 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
How was it a fluke..Matt threw a punch with the intent of doing harm and DID!!! C,mon OD your better than that"fluke" excuse
I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy
Hahahahaha give me a freaking break
That was the luckiest ever. What happened when they fought again? Seriously give me a break
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 8, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
And actually the luckiest punch ever was Fedor vs Arlovski
I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy
Well if they do it better they don't incorporate it into their overall game as well as he does
So that makes him the most technical MMA practitioner in business right now cause if he doesn’t do it the best he still does it ALL.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
that's the problem.
people think a positional wrestlers are the greatest fighters to ever live. Stand them up and make them fight ! Georges is good enough in bjj and strong enough from top position to hold anyone down and in the striking he never commits enough to where he can be caught.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
You just described an incredibly intelligent fighter
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 7, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
have them fight in Japan and they will be receiving yellow cards and possibly red cards. Jon Fitch would be dq’d every fight for stalling.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
Well
we are in America so rules in Japan really have no meaning
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 7, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Their not as bad as you make them out
Alves had me bored but he pulled a groin muscle in rd 3 and still won 2 more rds; I can’t blame the guy for that. The Fitch beating was one of the most entertaining beat downs I’ve ever seen and the Hardy fight was ok. Georges really did try and get something goin against Hardy but he came up a little short.
You’re basically judging the guy on 2 fights.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Again you're grasping at straws
Rob it took you years to realize Tito Ortiz was finne, when I been tellin you that shit for at LEAST 2 years; how long before you finally break down and realize GSP is the best OVERALL fighter in the game today??
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
never dude.. he's incredibly boring.
I turn on to watch fights not wrestling matches for 5 rounds where one man is controlling another. GSP is able to shut any fighter down today, technique is not a factor, his physique and explosiveness is just too great mixed with good timing and technique.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
Re read what you wrote
You clearly stated that technique didnt matter, but then said his technique was too great?
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 7, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I know that.
what i meant was, his oppoent can be the best technician kinda like Anderson Silva, it still won’t matter, cause GSP can shut him down with his style and the little technique and timing he needs, his shot is unstoppable.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
And that's not impressive how??
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
So even tho you know that and state it as a fact
You still cant admit that he is the best right now?
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 7, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
winning fights does not mean u are the best overall technical fighter on the planet.
he could improve standing and on the ground, his sub attempts are a little lazy.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
if that was the case jon fitch would be a brilliant technician.
his takedown attempts have been successful in literally every fight except for the GSP fight.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
Huge difference between GSP and Fitch
And Georges showed it in their fight. If you don’t have stand up, guess what ? GSP is punching you in the face. look at Fitch’s face for god sake, does he look like he got the lay n pray treatment for 5 rds? Hell no.. Rob you’re just being a hater, that’s all there is to this.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, your arguments are totally pointless
in every aspect. You are still grasping for straws because you cant admit it when you are wrong. Grow up dude
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 8, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
wtf are you a fan of Tito Ortiz for?
WTF do you think he did against any decent fighter he ran into in his entire carreer? How the hell are you gonna put Tito on a pedestal and then condemn GSP for doing the same shit but doing it 100x BETTER.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
because Tito is hilarious, GSP is an extremely boring person.
and he can’t GnP the way Tito does.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
I think you meant 'did'
not does. He aint pounding anything except Jenna
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 7, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
haha not according to the site!
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 7, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
His GnP and probably another 3 dozen guys over the past decade
10-08-28 BJ Penn exposed for the 7th time!!!!
by hairybumcrack on Sep 7, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Tito has also finished only 1% more of his wins than GSP has. Somehow GSP=most boring fighter ever that can't finish, and Tito=exciting fighter with awesome GnP.
Your logic is terrible on this subject RoB.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
What logic?
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 8, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
To say that GSP has better GnP than Tito is just retarded!
Tito may not be all that but on thing he has always been great at his inflicting damage while being in full guard.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
one* not on
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
Or how to make people quit as well
10-08-28 BJ Penn exposed for the 7th time!!!!
by hairybumcrack on Sep 7, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
true.. that happened also
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 7, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
WTF do you call this?
This looks like a nice jab here..
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
jon fitch and hughes are the lowest level strikers he's fought in recent yrs.
He had the balls to let loose. Georges is not trying to knock anyone out these days.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
Makes sense to me, why don't you bitch about Thiago Alves not submitting anyone lately??
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
so everytime someone proves you wrong,
you just say that they dont count for some reason that is in your mind but noone else? hhmm… not a very good argument in my opinion… Hughes was the most dominant welterweight in the world until he met GSP That counts for a lot in mma
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 7, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
We all know that your idol lost his last 2 fights and
this makes you feel better, but what the hell did the “worlds best striker” do against a wrestler a few weeks back? That’s right, say it…..fuck all. You will feel better when you agree rather than bash someone who is more gifted than the Pillsbury doughboy.
10-08-28 BJ Penn exposed for the 7th time!!!!
by hairybumcrack on Sep 7, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
but what the hell did the "worlds best striker" do against a wrestler a few weeks back?
As far as I remember he made him tap with a beautiful triangle choke. Let me know if I am wrong.
BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.
He did catch a serious ass woopin before that = /
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't remember the last time I saw GSP get his ASS WOOPED for 4 rds..
o wait that’s never happened = /
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I was referring to Penn as his fans have indicated that he is the most talented
10-08-28 BJ Penn exposed for the 7th time!!!!
by hairybumcrack on Sep 7, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he is, or at least in the running
He just doesn’t have the discipline or the heart to train like it. GSP’s got him there.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
He never showed any of that in his last 2 fights
I wouldn’t say that it is related to lack of either…..
10-08-28 BJ Penn exposed for the 7th time!!!!
by hairybumcrack on Sep 7, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He didn't get up for Edgar
And it really showed in the 2nd fight; he was just standing there, staring blankley across the cage, no emotion, no fired up Penn. Just blank look on his face like he was tired and just didn’t give a shit.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Really - I thought he was focused
10-08-28 BJ Penn exposed for the 7th time!!!!
by hairybumcrack on Sep 7, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not a good thing to hear a guy talking about religion and life philosophy 2 days before a fight
Then he gets in the cage and he’s not doing ANYTHING that the usual BJ Penn does, rocking back n forth on his heels, slap himself a couple times, have his hands up ready to go like he can’t wait to get at the guy. No, he didn’t look like himself AT ALL. That’s what surprised me about him saying he’s gonna fight again, I thought he’d consider retirement after that one, he looked like he just didn’t care.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, where
did the BJ who murdered Joe Daddy and licked his blood like some crazy bloodsport gladiator go? Definately didn’t have that type of fire going into either Edgar fight.
"That wasn't just winning. I mean, that was just demolishment."
100% agreed.
It’s like he just goes through the motions and has forgotten why he fights. It was never for money, so it must have been due to the desire to be the best and compete among the best. If that is gone…anyone can beat BJ.
BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.
Somewhat agree
People change and their focus on the fight changes over the years. Look at Diego – I’d say he is more intense now but is a fraction of the fighter he was.
Maturing has this effect on people. But I do agree that his entrance was certainly non-Pennesque.
10-08-28 BJ Penn exposed for the 7th time!!!!
by hairybumcrack on Sep 7, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
You are both right on that one!
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 7, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Details :)
BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.
That is wrestling - ask any Penn fan and they will agree
10-08-28 BJ Penn exposed for the 7th time!!!!
by hairybumcrack on Sep 7, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
GSP is the better wrestler, but Silva is much better at EVERYTHING else!!!
It’s just that wrestling is the most important discipline to have! I think KOS will give him the best fight he has had since Hughes/GSP 1.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
While it may not be a martial art, cardio is just as important as technical skill.
And that’s an area that GSP dominates Silva. Plus, arguning that Silva is “much better” than GSP at BJJ is kinda ridiculous when he’s been submitted more and has the same number of submission victories.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
Cardio I will give you, but jj??? LMAO!!!!!!!!!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
Laugh all you want, but it's about application not credentials.
Silva has proven more vulnerable to being submitted throughout his career, and of his 3 UFC submissions 2 were set up by strikes.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
How long ago? And GSP was TKO'd just a few years ago!
By MAtt fn Serra!!!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
What's your point?
Silva was dominated by Sonnen just a few weeks ago. When’s the last time you’ve seen anyone dominate GSP? Never! Silva may have pulled out the submission when Sonnen got complacent, but many people are taking Chael in the rematch. You think many people would pick Hardy, Alves, Fitch or BJ in a rematch with GSP? Despite your sig, dominating the entirety of a fight is a much more decisive way to win than to pull a submission out of your ass when you’re getting destroyed.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
Disagree
GSP has better wrestling and BJJ. Also I think he is a more effective striker right now. I am not talking about the past because that is irrelevant. Right now GSP is the best and proves it. On paper Anderson might look better but he hasn’t shown it as of late and GSP has. I do think GSP is the better of the two RIGHT NOW.
by Edgecrusher71 on Sep 7, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Anderson is not as good at GSP in
standing up then shooting for a takedown, mount postition, GnP and standing up from bottom position. GSP’s wrestling is by far the best in MMA right now.
If only he knew how to execute a proper, fight-ending arm bar on a guy with 0 ground game.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon
If GSP only he knew how to execute a proper, fight-ending arm bar on a guy with 0 ground game, he’d be awesome.
BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.
I think Kos has a good shot
at pulling out an upset. Heavy handed and will not take GSPs wrestling lightly this time around.
How does everyone figure GSP will approach this fight?
Try and keep it standing and pick Kos apart or put him on his back and work him over?
"That wasn't just winning. I mean, that was just demolishment."
Same gameplan as always
He’ll mix it all up, by the 3rd rd Kos won’t know if a TD is coming or if hands are about to be thrown. I do agree that this is a much tougher fight for GSP then ppl are giving it credit for. I think Kos could give him a run for his money.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
How does everyone figure GSP will approach this fight? Try and keep it standing and pick Kos apart…
hahahahaha I started laughing so hard, I couldn’t finish reading the rest of the sentence. GSP will take Kos down and hold him there for 5 rounds, end of story. Although GSP fans here will prolly try to make it seem like the fight will be competitive, so that they can then marvel at how good GSP is at “controlling his opponents” and pretend like they didn’t know exactly how the fight would go.
BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.
Dude,
did you not see him fight Fitch? He used his wrestling to keep it standing. I’m not so sure that he will be able to control Kos like he did the first time around. That was the first time we really saw him use his wrestling to dominate and I believe Kos that it caught him off guard and he didn’t train properly for that kind of fight. Properly focused I think he could stuff GSPs shot.
"That wasn't just winning. I mean, that was just demolishment."
Yea I think it's going to be competitive, I just hate waiting longer cause of tuf
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea it will be a good fight for sure
I really hope that Kos doesnt think his stand up is as good as GSP’s tho
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 7, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Kos can definitely win its alot closer then what people think
A shitload closer. Gsp is the man no doubt about it skill wise hes correct hes top dog with that said Koscheck can definitely come out on top he has good power in his hands good hand speed his striking has improved soo so much since they fought and now hes able to mix it up alot better. As long as Kos comes into this fight with the ‘im not a retard plan’ he should have a great shot at getting the W.
Btw ‘im not a retard plan’ is fighting your fight not GSP’s for some unknown reason everyone has been fighting GSP’s fight which is moving foward like a retard trying to engage in a standup fight which GSP wants absolutely no part of which results in you on your ass because people moving foward are alot easier to takedown then those moving back or even standing their ground.
If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
I remember the same thing stated against Hardy,
and Alves, and Hughes, and Penn (who???)……but not against Fitch and I always thought Fitch gave him his best fight ever.
10-08-28 BJ Penn exposed for the 7th time!!!!
by hairybumcrack on Sep 7, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
So the butt scoop is the best strategy against GSP?
The guys fighting GSP should run backwards? Maybe a better strategy would be for them to jump out the octogon the second they can.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
I think it's the old boxing rhetoric, brawl a boxer, box a brawler
The first guy that can get in there and turn the fight into an untechnical brawl can find a way to beat GSP.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
You're one fine maniac OD.
You use reason and logic the same way GSP uses his wrestling. There’s no hoping on one leg with you, it’s down!
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
Well it's true =P
Someone needs to cut off the cage, put his back against the fence and tag him with a good shot; make him fight.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Easier said then done I know
And maybe not even possible… Time will tell
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Won't be a punch, but a knee, IMO. Think KJ Noons on Nick Diaz.
Someone needs to catch him coming in with the shot. Will it happen? Doubtful, since T Alves didn’t even really try to kick with his vaunted muay thai, Kos and Fitch don’t have that kind of aggression, and no one else at WW is even on the same level as those three.
It will take some kind of DW magic to create a challenger for GSP after Kos.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Well Kos does have the potential to fight off the TD
MAYBE, and it’s a BIG MAYBE, he can fend off that TD or get back to his feet; if he can do that, he can start swinging away and try to turn that fight into a brawl. Now that’s a lot of ifs, and do I think that’s how it’s gonna go down? No; but I do think that Kos will be a handful for GSP and a much tougher opponent then the majority of posters here seem to give him credit.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
sigh..this is gonna be a long few months till the fights..
kos has a really big mouth..and he is skilled to back it up..BUT..he is gonna underestimate gsp AGAIN..and maybe…just maybe..he will shock us all and kick kos’s ass standing…but, we all know that the plan will be for a safe win..and we’ll all hear about how shit he is for not taking risks…well it all sounds well and good from our place..(behind the key board) but he will be the one working his ass off and training his ass off and still having the belt and walking away with the $$..
though i’m sure kos is gonna be a good coach for tuf..i really hope that he does not run his mouth too much..which is impossible..sigh..maybe he can teach his fighters the acting skills he uses in the octagon too!! lol
TUF ruins the UFC
I wish they’d just cancel that damn show already; I’m sick and tired of the belt and the title fights being held up cause of fucking TUF.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't like the belts being held up either.
But we can’t argue that TUF has been the avenue for some of todays great fighters to come in to their own and MMA is better for it. So I just ignore the show (i still watch the fights online the next day) and hope for great talent to emerge.
BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.
haha I do the exact same thing
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 7, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
yep tuf has run it's course..
but i have to admit i am curious at how gsp and kos will do as coaches and such..if there are not many antics and more focused on the training and fights i will be stoked..i’m such a nerd i have seen all seasons of tuf..even when they sucked (which has been most of em since the 2nd season) i watch cuz maybe i will see some one who is the next best thing..
I still like TUF
it’s pretty bad, but still better than Contender was. It’s a great way to humanize the fighters and has given us some good and decent fighters that we actually know something about.
"That wasn't just winning. I mean, that was just demolishment."
And really how much has
it held up the belts? GSP will still fight twice this year, just like every year. Now, I do wish we could step it up and get another fight in for the Champs, but it seems to be holding steady at two fights a year.
"That wasn't just winning. I mean, that was just demolishment."
It's lame
And I think it’s because either they hold up the belt and throw a Champ into the show or they hold up the belt and throw a #1 contender fight into the show. You know who could coach the damn show? Mark Coleman and Chuck Liddell; two popular legends who aren’t gonna hold up a belt.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
ABout time GSP actually says it!
-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)
by *Californication* on Sep 7, 2010 7:31 PM EDT reply actions
^^^yep^^^
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by daniel worby on Sep 7, 2010 7:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Now he’ll get flamed for being to cocky, you watch.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
The price of being the best...
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
sic TDD
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
haha that jump at the end is awesome. more people should do that.
Propel your body up so when the take-down finishes you instead land on top of your opponents. Sick shit!
BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.
Yeah that was sick
when I see someone stuff a takedown or scramble beautifully, I love it. But, it just makes me upset when you see guys just kind of sit there and get taken down or just kept on their back without really trying to get back up.
"That wasn't just winning. I mean, that was just demolishment."
Reminds me of Machida vs. Heath
Heath tried to do an outside leg trip during their fight… only for Machida to land on top of him anyway. In contrast, see Machida’s beautiful, lightning-quick outside leg trip on Thiago Silva.
Machida is the best with his leg trips
BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.
And here is the one you meant:
BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.
RoBerto...
You have to be the dumbest mother fucker to call himself an MMA fan I’ve seen in a very long time. Please quit watching ASAP.
did u actually just make an account here just to say that?
Your life must be pretty sad…
BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.
did u see me calling myself an mma fan?
I didn’t know liking GSP and claiming he is the most technical fighter on earth was something u had to do to call yourself an MMA fan.. For all i care u can fuck off and i’m gonna FUCK YOUR MAMA IN HER ASSHOLE.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
I'm actually really smart too btw, i'd challenge u any day in anything that has to do with sports and knowledge.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
Inferiority complex
… if you have to sit here and claim you’re smart… well… = / sry Rob
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
lolz yeah- guess i'm so confident in myself that i don't have to worry about rules.
I just go all out in brutal fashion.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
I'm just saying
I don’t go around telling people “I’m actually really smart, incase you didn’t get it.”
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Challenging people via internet = tough guy for real.........lol
Blame Canada, Blame Canada, With all their hockey hullabaloo, And that bitch Anne Murray too, Blame Canada,Shame on Canada...............
don't like him? beat him.
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by daniel worby on Sep 7, 2010 7:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I’ve been waiting for a reason to not like GSP and finally he says it. Dude is the best in the world at Laying and praying. He may be the best at Wrestling but this is MMA not dry hump olympics.
by Brockness Monster on Sep 7, 2010 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
He's the best at MMA
see my posts above
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 7, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I read the whole thread
and OD knows his shit.
You people are crazy.
First of all. GSP is the best P4P in the world.
GSP works on the ground, attempts submissions, and tries to finish, Just because he isn’t finishing doesn’t mean it’s Lay N’ praying. See Jon Fitch for Lay N’ Pray.
GSP stand-up is average. I can guarantee you he will not be standing with Koscheck in there next fight.
Anderson silva better then GSP? As fucking if. Think what Chael Sonnen did to him. Not add more explosiveness, better takedowns, better transitions, submission defence, and offence. There might of not been a finish but I can assure you Silva wouldn’t of won.
I’m not a huge GSP fan, but even Helen Keller can see that he is easily the best.
Riding the Brock Train..
Jon Fitch, Gray Maynard and Chael Sonnen can suck it. If I want a blanket I'll buy it in the store, not on PPV.
GSP and Rashad are getting close to joining this list.
GSP and Rashad are getting close to joining this list.
GSB?
George St. Blanket
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