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Chuck Liddell to decide fight future sometime this month (September)

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"It's about how I feel and if I want to go back and make a run at a title and how far away that would be. And whatever I think is left in the tank. I've been doing PR stuff for the last couple months, and I'll finally be home for the month. I'll probably decide sometime in September, when I have time to relax.... I don't feel like there's anything left to prove. I still love fighting, but there's a lot that goes into it. Maybe it might be time. I'm just not sure yet.  You know, I've enjoyed the ride. No matter what, I've had a good time. I never expected it, but I've gotten paid a lot to do what I love. There are no complaints."

Former light heavyweight champion Chuck Liddell plans to finally look in the mirror this month and make a determination about whether or not to put a ribbon on his UFC Hall of Fame career once and for all. Liddell was warned by his boss and long-time friend, UFC President Dana White, that he would be released from the promotion if didn't hang 'em up following his third straight (technical) knockout loss, which came at the hands of Rich Franklin earlier this year. LIddell has actually dropped five of his last six appearances inside the Octagon. So here we go again: Should he stay or should he go now? Let's hear it, Maniacs.

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How can a guy with 3 KO's in his last three fights

seriously think he can make a title run?

Dude would be cut from ImpactFC with that record

A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky

by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Sep 5, 2010 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking the same....

Even after dropping 5 of his last 6 fights he is talking about whether he wants to comeback and make a run at the title., lol…I love Chuck and in his Prime he was fun to watch, but it is getting sad to watch him now that Rampage installed that off switch on his chin….

"My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them."

by Da Monkey on Sep 6, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like Chuck finally sees writing on wall.

“I still love fighting, but there’s a lot that goes into it. Maybe it might be time. I’m just not sure yet.”

thats a comment from a man who is done fighting. Its been incredible Chuck. thanks

by Budiswiser on Sep 5, 2010 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Chuck is a legend.

He’s proven all he has to.

He showed dominant wins over top flight competition.
No one has been able to run that division the way he did.
He made loads of cash.

Further more, the fact that he hung in there and kept coming out swinging while his record was going down hill only showed further how much heart he actually came in to the octagon with!

by 79guy on Sep 5, 2010 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Glad to hear you have that opinion of him

Will you have the same opinion of him when his future meals will be served through a straw and he is less coherent than James Toney?

Maybe you can drive him around town to all the fights, change his diaper, and do all his autographs for him at the UFC fanfares. One more KO and he won’t be too far off Stephen Hawking minus the smarts.

10-08-28 BJ Penn exposed for the 7th time!!!!

by hairybumcrack on Sep 5, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

"He’s proven all he has to."

One who doesn’t have their head shoved 9 mines up the their ass would agree I’m saying he should hang them up.

Further, Tony talks stupid because he stupid. Liddell was an accountant, he’s an educated man.

As for hawlking, I’m a bigger fan of his than I am any fighters. Considering the fact that his ALS was supposed to kill him 40 years ago and he starts everyday with thinking, "I will not allow myself to die today" shows that his will is stronger than any one that gets in the cage.

by 79guy on Sep 5, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

touche

10-08-28 BJ Penn exposed for the 7th time!!!!

by hairybumcrack on Sep 5, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chucky won't remain as the best LHW of all time if shogun gets

a couple more wins here. I say forget the title shot and stick to fringe top 8-10 guys and strenghten the resume even further instead of getting murdered by the super elite. Keep the dream alive for a little big. And he gets Kayoed again then give it up.

Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 5, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

NNR

Bones Jone will derail any plan Shogun has of keeping the title for long.

by THORAZINE on Sep 6, 2010 4:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Less coherent than Toney...????

Taking a couple big shots is nothing compared to constant blows to the head. The blows these guys take in MMA is comparable to a high level Black Belt in Karate or other martial arts that do tournaments.

by Edgecrusher71 on Sep 5, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

“He’s proven all he has to.”

One who doesn’t have their head shoved 9 mines up the their ass would agree I’m saying he should hang them up.

Further, Tony talks stupid because he stupid. Liddell was an accountant, he’s an educated man.

As for hawlking, I’m a bigger fan of his than I am any fighters. Considering the fact that his ALS was supposed to kill him 40 years ago and he starts everyday with thinking, “I will not allow myself to die today” shows that his will is stronger than any one that gets in the cage.

by 79guy on Sep 5, 2010 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

I say chuck should still fight he looked really good last time out and was winning that rd on the scorecards until rich put him away with 5 sec left

I wanna see chuck re-invent himself and go to wrestling roots and make that his strengh and forget about trying to go toe to toe and outstike his opponent.

how great would it be for him to start putting guys on there asses and work som gnp and then go fo any damn submission

it should only be about winning now do what you to by implementing a gsp type game plan

by dia mette on Sep 5, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

no more title run for chuck

i think he should join the money divison along with couture

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2. Anthony ''Showtime'' Pettis
3. Phil ''Mr. Wonderful'' Davis
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by robinhorobson on Sep 5, 2010 10:46 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I want to see him get KO'd once more

Liddell and Jardine are the best artists at getting knocked out, its pure entertainment

by Lester The Pimp on Sep 5, 2010 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I was think that if he decides to fightand Dana cans him Strike Force will book a rematch with liddell and Jardine faster than Kaleb can run from the crowd in Montreal.

by 79guy on Sep 5, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chuck is a UFC company man

You won’t ever see him in Strikeforce.

I'm always thinking one step ahead. Like a carpenter . . . who makes stairs.

by supernova224 on Sep 5, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL...

welll I have to admit Chuck has some of the best highlight KO’s from both ends of the fight game!

by THORAZINE on Sep 6, 2010 4:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Give him Tito one last fight then hang em up

by malito3og3 on Sep 5, 2010 11:17 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Tito would be a good fight bc Chuck wouldn't have to worry about the KO.

I would actually bet on Chuck bc I don’t think Tito would get him down.

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL

by MBOW on Sep 5, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

For Sure Tito

Tito Vs Chuck is the only way I’d like to see Chuck back in the cage again… just to KO Tito 1 more time.

by THORAZINE on Sep 6, 2010 4:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hell yea bro

I wanna see him get his ass handed to him though I think one of bones throws might just knock him out hahahaha!!!!!

by axemurderer1990 on Sep 5, 2010 11:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

co signed

Jones is a growing boy, he needs to be fed names. He could work his standup on chuck, see if he can get a clean KO.

Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 5, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

ICEMAN

i agree with (malito3og3) !
at least let him beat down tito one more time.
and go out in style.
he deserves that much.

princepatch

by princepatch on Sep 5, 2010 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Chuck Chuck Chuck

The netting between his skull and brain has been destroyed, hence the reason he gets his lights shut off so easily. He was a Pioneer for the sport, and an awesome fighter to watch.

by rti27 on Sep 5, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

LIddell has actually dropped five of his last six appearances inside the Octagon.

Liddell.

Good stuff. Chuck better hang it up unless he would prefer people to remember him as Chuck “The Icechin” Liddell.

by MrTechnique420 on Sep 5, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

If he's going to come back, he should move to MW if he can and use his wrestling.

Maia, Chonnen, Bisping he has a chance against these guys and possibly a few others.

by carlosb on Sep 5, 2010 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Go for it Chuck

He’s earned the right to fight until he can’t go anymore, i mean what the hell is he supposed to do? War Iceman go knock up some dude in Strikeforce, or better yet give him Ortiz again after Hamil does him in, Ortiz can’t punch.

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2. Fedor
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4. Jake Shields
5. King Mo
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7. Gegard Mousasi
8. Melvin Manhoef
9. Takanori Gomi
10. Nate Diaz
11. Dave Branch
12. Josh Thomson

by MasterWhiteTiger on Sep 5, 2010 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Dana started circus fights, so keep it going

If Dana had Chuck fight Toney it would have been more of a fight than Couture’s diving single leg. I guarantee none of that junk would have happened. Chuck keeps it standing guaranteed and finishes fights, somebody is going to go nite nite and it might be Chuck. He goes in there swinging period. And that’s why I love the guy.

by Dball on Sep 5, 2010 2:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Mother- "hhuugh. what did Santa bring you little Timmy?"

Son- “Yes! Its a UFC action figure, oh wait, its Chuck Liddel. This is the worst Christmas ever!!” :(

by snipersniper on Sep 5, 2010 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

The saftey switch to turn it off is on the Chin!

Just takes a simple tap…

"My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them."

by Da Monkey on Sep 6, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!

Nice.
Although Sly’s still going.

Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez

by ArlovsKang on Sep 5, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

CHUCKY WAS FED CANS..I MEAN LOOK AT HIS RECORD every good striker BEAT HIM!!

CHUCK WAS DANAS #1 OR #2 B%T*H!
fed cans that “grew the sport” yeah right striker vs grappler were fed to chuck and now we see he suks and relies only on striling he failed to ever evolve!!!!

GO GOODBYE CHUCK

by iamdanawhite on Sep 5, 2010 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

CANS???

Think about it, wrestlers are dominant fighters in the ufc at the minute. If fighters learnt chucks legendary sprawl, they may be able to keep the fight standing and finish fights. He still has the tools, but unfortunately doesn’t have the granite chin. He wasn’t given cans! He just knew how to use his wrestling in reverse and ko those boring ass wrestlers!!!

by BlackStone on Sep 5, 2010 6:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

but he was given fighters at the end of the day that were strictly wrestlers 90% of the time.

Chuck was a wrestler too, that’s why he was able to stop the td’s and be able to beat them with his style of brawling. Iamdanawhite is right, Chuck’s lost to every good striker with any sense of defending themselves and not standing right infront of Chuck and brawling. I’m also confident that if someone like Tito had have the firepower even back in the day he would’ve had a good chance of knocking Liddell out, cause Chucky’s striking was never of a high caliber technically/defensively.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic !

by RoBerto. on Sep 5, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe he was good technically when on the offence, but not so great defensively.

He used to get away with it due to his granite chin. If you have followed Chuck and other MMA fights you cannot say chuck was not a great stand-up MMA fighter. Admittedly he beat alot of wrestlers and only faught the elite strikers when he was past his prime. In those fights however, he was never outclassed but caught with clean shots on an ageing chin!

by BlackStone on Sep 5, 2010 6:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yup see what you are saying.

but getting knocked out so brutally in his past couple fights is more about Chuck not knowing how to defend himself and having a way too risky brawling mentality. So if he was considered a great striker then he is a low level striker today, he relied on his physical attributes (strong chin, long reach) more than having pure skill and that is never a good recipe for a long successful career, a style like that would never last for long in today’s sport.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic !

by RoBerto. on Sep 5, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"He who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life" - Muhammad Ali.

by BlackStone on Sep 5, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

He didn't only beat cans

but I don’t think he would ever be a champion in todays LHW division. Yeah most of those fighters matched up well for him, but those were the only guys the UFC really had to offer. I do however, question his second fight with Jeremy Horn. It just seemed really fishy to me that Jeremy Horn decided completely on his own that he wanted to go in and stand with Chuck.

Chuck had good stand up, he did beat some good strikers. But Overeem is the only fighter with higher level striking that he ever finished.

 And I don’t buy the aging chin argument. I think he is just getting hit by guys with KO power right on the button. Those guys would have knocked him out with those shots at any point of his career. Before he went on a slump, who really tested his chin? The only reason he is losing fights right now is because these guys are better than him. Period.

by thegr8stkybrdwarrior on Sep 5, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are plenty of guys that were Champs back in the day...

That couldn’t compete with todays fighters. That is the point of the sport evolving. Most sports are that way. The mma athlete today has been training MMA since his teens and now in their early to mid 20’s, they are complete fighters. They all have a better understanding of learning wrestling, bjj, boxing, and Muay Thai. It 10 more years the level of fighter will be ridiculous. Kids will have been learning their skills since they were in grade school. My cousin is 13-she has a black belt in Tae Kwon DO (which she started when she was 4) and has a Purple Belt in BJJ (which she has beeen studying for the last 4 years). When she is 16, she will be the schools most dangerous date…

"My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them."

by Da Monkey on Sep 6, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tell that to my cousin who is currently wearing a purple belt...

who just tested for it. She just got it last month. She has been training for 4 years. She trains with the adults and is not been in the kids class for over 2 years. Maybe it is because of her skill level and her size. I do realize that noramly jrs don’t get anything past a green till they hit 16, but she is wearing a purple belt.. She has done awesome in all her local tournaments and has accolades out the ying yang.

"My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them."

by Da Monkey on Sep 7, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Go quiet in to the night.

Hopefully he doesn’t pull a Brett Favre. I like him and don’t want to see him all punch drunk in a few years.

by Larold of the rocks on Sep 5, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Chuck may not be the greatest fighter of all time. But the guy went into every fight looking to knock someones head off. It didn’t matter if it was a wrestler like Tito or a boxer like rampage chuck was never afraid to go toe to toe with anyone and for that he deserves respect. He was entertaining and showed more heart than most even after he lost his chin. If Penn had the heart and TDD that chuck had he would be the champ right now.

by Craigo8609 on Sep 5, 2010 8:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I think the ice man shud still fight if his heart is in it.

If chucks hearts still in it who the fuck is anybody 2 stop him from doing wut he loves? Wand had a tougher road then chuck did no1 has a prob w/ him still throwing down. They earned ther shit & shud still fight if they can kick ass! It’s not like chucks not showing life at all out there. Just no chin.

by d*locc on Sep 5, 2010 10:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

CHuck is

Number 2 all Time LHW. Behind the AXE Murderer

The man that doesnt fall, Doesnt Stand
Fuck u Fedor haters

by The real ZACK on Sep 6, 2010 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

lmfao.. nr 2.

u gotta be high on something.

nr 2 all time lhw. no way

he would be in the top 5. but not nr 2.

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by DutchOzzy on Sep 6, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

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