Vitor Belfort vs Anderson Silva for the title, Marquardt vs Okami winner up next
by James Kimball on Sep 22, 2010 3:51 PM EDT
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That's according to UFC President Dana White:
"Vitor is not injured. He is going to fight anderson for the title and the winner of marquardt and okami are next."
I guess that will end all the speculation. It's gonna be Vitor Belfort vs. Anderson Silva for the middleweight title sometime in early 2011. The winner of Nate Marquardt vs. Yushin Okami will be next in line.
Thoughts on the final four pairings? Who's walking away the victors?
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Take THAT!
bitches.
SHINE UP THE MW BELT ANDY. VITOR WANTS IT FLOSSSSSING.
As we always suspected - Jackson's MMA secures another victory under suspicious circumstances. Freenow82 called it and is seldom wrong when pre diagnosing a Lay n Pray / Vaseline victory before it happens. Free 2 - BZ 3... I smell a come back.
was wondering
Do they actually pass the belt around or give a new one each title fight, or only if it switches hands? Anyone know the dilly?
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by salamagogo on Sep 22, 2010 2:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
when you defend it.. I have heard you get a replica for keep sake
but the real title is passed from champ to champ.
As we always suspected - Jackson's MMA secures another victory under suspicious circumstances. Freenow82 called it and is seldom wrong when pre diagnosing a Lay n Pray / Vaseline victory before it happens. Free 2 - BZ 3... I smell a come back.
i guess that makes sense
If I lost a title fight after being champ I’d say I misplaced it…meanwhie getting multiple photos from various angles of it ready to post on ebay…mwahaha, then again,if I was champ, money wouldn’t be as big of an issue
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by salamagogo on Sep 22, 2010 2:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hahaha.....this shit is hilarious.
Dana thinks he pulled one over everyone. Why didn’t he just say fuck you okami we want vitor to fight for the title but we can’t risk you taxing that ass. fucking pathetic from a man who supposedly tells it like it is.
And i’ll just give myself a pat on the back for exactly 100% predicting this as soon as vitor dropped out. Look to my posts for proof.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 22, 2010 2:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
yea i read that yesterday an wuz like you know what he might be right!
YOU CANT PLEASE EVERYBODY SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL PLEASE YOU!!!!!!!
by BigDickChainey on Sep 22, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, I remember, good call!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
yes good call.. only in america
entertainment companies suck ass, ban them from the market.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
The dream fight is back, but it's a joke how this has played out
I was against the instant rematch from the start and now that has fallen apart I’m also against Vitor getting a shot when he’s not fought anyone since beating Franklin at 103, that’s way too long to wait around for a title fight. He should at least have to win one fight over a top guy to earn it and stay fresh, instead he’s not going to compete this year and will show up to the Andy fight rusty simply because he’s a bigger draw than Okami, who has done a lot more to earn a title fight than Vitor. I have no idea why Zuffa couldn’t just wait for the Vitor-Okami fight to play out so that Andy could fight a deserving top contender, instead Okami gets screwed over yet again and Vitor gets fastracked to a title fight again purely for the buyrate at the expense of fair competiton. The Nate-Okami winner better get the next shot.
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
don't forget
The reason they need this big fight is because this is supposedly for the New Year’s show.
From a business aspect, they lost their moneymaker with Chael/Anderson 2. It makes perfect sense sub Vitor in at this point in order to make sure that still is going to be a good card.
Even if for some reason the winner of Marquardt/Okami is ready for January, it won’t be as a big a draw (with Nate having already lost to Silva and Okami being well, not exactly marketable).
Throw in the fact that Okami grounding out Vitor was a big possibility, it simply makes good business sense to get Belfort out and into the title shot ASAP before anyone has a chance to tarnish that potential fight.
It still feels rotten to me
If you’re worried about Vitor losing to Okami then he’s obviously not deserving of a title shot. Let the best fight the best instead of trying to dictate fights because you think that they will draw more money. The more that the UFC moves towards being a business and away from a genuine sports organisation then the less I like it.
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by David W-S on Sep 22, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it's unfortunate..
but the UFC has definitely wanted to be a “sport” while relying heavily on business-related reasoning.
then again, boxing too is considered a sport, but is also handled similarly in the decisions relating to which boxer gets promoted, whom they fight, etc.
it’s the fight game.
I don't like undeserved title fights in boxing either
That’s one of the main things that puts myself and other fight fans off boxing, I just don’t want to see MMA make the same mistakes. I’m just sick of greed and money dictating the major decisions in all sports.
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Agreed
Then again, the UFC puts together a fight like Leben/Stann and it makes me wonder where the “business-sense” went when putting that fight together after the tear Leben’s been on.
Never heard of that fight
Dreadful if true, Leben beat a top 20 and a top 10 guy in a fortnight, he should be fighting another top guy not someone who has just made the cut to 185. Funny thing is Stann has a chance if he uses his wrestling and doesn’t get lazy on top or try to brawl with Leben.
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yup david, totally agree.
it makes zero sense for both anderson and vitor to fight each other right now, completely unfair to both fighters.. MMA is a tour sport just like tennis and golf, only difference is the competitors in MMA can’t dictate over their own careers because big fat promotor is sitting and picking who he wants to have success.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
scrap the ppv model and stop trying to sell cards.
just give the fans sport events.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
Good stuff Roberto and David!
I hate Dana calling this a sport and wanting it to be bigger than all others, then does this! I fn hate this! Between this shit and the fn judges inept ability to judge a fight, I’m getting turned off to MMA!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
Imagine the fn Super Bowl being determined by which 2 teams are the most popular that year?
It’s the same fucking thing! I’m pissed!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
Agreed Bow and RoB
At this point UFC matchmaking is as legitimate as pro wrestling booking, no other sport books fights based purely on the ability to draw a PPV audience. Even boxing has some sort of ranking system and it’s well known how shady the matchmaking is in that sport. MMA is turning more into an entertainment business than a legitimate sport and that is not a move that I’m happy with. It’ll make the UFC a successful brand but takes away any hope of international recognition.
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I'm a little confused?
Are saying Okami is a better opponent than Vitor? I think the fight is great! Vitor has knocked out Linland and Franklin in the first round his last 2 fights, thats impressive, Okami is a good solid fighter but at this time is he really a better opponent than Vitor?
I understand that's the agrument but why?
Okami got a beat down by Sonnen and lost to Frankiln in the last 2yrs…Vitor is coming off 2 knockouts, including knocking out Rich
I'm saying that Okami should have gotten the chance to fight Vitor
Instead the bigger name and more exciting fighter was fastracked to a title fight again without actually having to fight any of the top guys. If Vitor was good enough to fight for the belt then he should be good enough to beat Okami, the fact that he was pulled out of that dangerous fight so that he wouldn’t lose before the big money fight with Silva is crooked. Even worse, Vitor will have had a 16-18 month layoff before this fight, how can that possibly make him the top contender? How can you call MMA a sport when popularity dictates matchmaking and not skill?
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
David i get what your saying but
you and I both spend money every month on PPV’s, isn’t the fight a good fight? worth the money? I mean Sonnen is out, Vitor was already suppposed to fight Andy, now the fight is back on…if I had a choice between Okami vs Vitor or Vitor vs Andy i would choose the latter, but I get what ur saying but than who does Anderson fight in the mean time? I think it makes sense but tooo much of a lay off for Vitor
A former champ actually told me that
The champ is asked to bring his existing belt to the fight, and if he wins, they buckle the same belt on him. If he loses, a new one is given to the contender. But this fighter said he would “forget” his belt at home, and when he defended his belt they would strap the new belt on him. So he defended his title say, 5x and he has 5 actual belts on his mantle at home.
by Andrew Keller on Sep 22, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
yep, it's actually easy to spot the replicas once
you’ve seen a picture of one. One of the many reasons why couture’s million belts don’t mean shit. (don’t know how or why that relates but just throwin it out there.)
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 22, 2010 3:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Would be pretty ironic and funny if Vitor had to pull out due to injury!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
now that would be some shit.
I think fate might just equalize for Okami here. I wonder if dana will even say anything to him.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 22, 2010 3:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yea that would be fd up if Okami heard the news like we are.
He has to be really hurt/pissed by all of this!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
I thought the same thing but that cannot be true
I have seen home interviews with Mir and he has a belt enshrined in a case.
by Edgecrusher71 on Sep 22, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
im happy about it
I wanted to see vitor get his shot before seeing a sonnen/silva rematch, actually i wanted to see vitor get his shot at abu dabi before ufc 117. this work out perfect
So Vitor's first fight at 185..
will end with him getting the belt huh? must be nice :)
ehem
First ufc fight at 185..but still kinda crazy when you think about it,yea
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by salamagogo on Sep 22, 2010 2:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hendo got 2 title shots
In 2 different divisions. Did win either of em but not too strange for UFC to do
I give him a very small chance at beating Andy!
Sonnen’s plan (wrestling & being juiced up) is the only one to beat Andy!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
I give him no chance...
Too much cage rust. He was better off getting one under his belt rather than fight for the title after a looooonnng layoff. His only hope is Silva is a little rusty himself.
Agreed
At his best Vitor’s handspeed would put Andy in instant danger of being KO’d but he’ll come into this fight rusty and when he’s not at his best Vitor always falls apart.
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Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
Hope he makes weight
Having thousands of posts on a MMA site does not make you an expert, training martial arts, wrestling or boxing makes you an expert.
ha!
The conspiracy theorists were spot on!
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by salamagogo on Sep 22, 2010 2:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Well not really because they presumed the report of his injury was contrived when it was in fact an error. Not really a conspiracy when all the UFC did was rearrange the order of things. They have nothing to hide.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
it wasn't an error. If it was then they would have just
kept on Okami-Vitor for the legitimacy of the fight and really title. They contrived it so they could say oh wait but already switched the fight….oh well we’ll just be forced to give vitor a title shot. bullshit.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 22, 2010 2:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But they didn’t. They just pulled him out of the fight. I don’t recall them making a public announcement that Vitor was injured.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
ok yea that is true, i'll give you that....
but it’s so fucking underhanded because they’re not lying but they’re just letting you believe your misconception and using it to legitimately screw over a guy who’s up for a title shot. If i was dana – i would just go “okami, here is some money, wait until after vitor” instead of playing mind tricks over fans.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 22, 2010 3:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hmm, I see what you mean, but I just see it differently. If the match-up is worthwhile and the guy can bring it, well, that’s just the way it is. In this case, it’s probably the best option for a title shot with Silva in terms of being an interesting match-up and I’m all for it.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
Agreed
The whole thing is crooked. Okami must have the patience of a saint to put up with being overlooked throughout his UFC career.
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Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
maybe it's not patience
maybe it’s that Okami is not exactly in a hurry to face Anderson
haha after that heel kick knockout from the bottom I wouldn't either
"NOBODY wants to fight Fedor." - Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner
It's going to be an awesome fight
Unfair how it was carried out, but the end justifies the means (Marquardt vs Silva 2 wouldn’t set the PPV world on fire)
"in this day and age of "let's erect a statue"-isn't it time Jerry Reinsdorf is honored" - The Swirsk
by RogersPark Kris on Sep 22, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm glad
I’m glad this actually worked out. I’d much rather see Belfort/Silva then Belfort/Okami.
I hope Okami beats Nate though.
Belfort/Silva will put asses in seats. Perhaps not as much as sonnen but hey its better
then the plywood personality of Nate or Okami.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
i would think itd do better
Or just as good, without needing much hype…vitor is like one of the few guys with striking on the level of andy
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by salamagogo on Sep 22, 2010 2:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Perhaps, Vitor is known and that KO of Rich Franklin does stick in people's minds.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
I have to add that Sonnen's
striking was better than Andy’s when they fought…
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 22, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The rib was hurt in the fight
Not before
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 22, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I personally
Dont care if he was juicing or not. He fought a better fight than Silva until he got subbed. Thats the bottom line for me. Juicing doesnt make you a better striker…
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 22, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, we can agree to disagree
But I was bs’ing with the rib injury nonsense. I don’t know if believe it either. After all, he did try to discredit Chonnan’s loss by saying his ankle was injured before the fight.
Haha
The rib thing always cracks me up actually… I dont care about all that.. a loss is a loss and a win is a win… excuses wont change that
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 22, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I hate it when people make excuses and even as a huge Andy fan who was celebrating like mad when he won I was shaking my head when the rib injury was brought up.
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I always love the preceding “I’m not making excuses but. . . .”
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
Did my post show?
All I can see is “agreed”.
And jack that always cracks me up as well, who are these guys kidding? It’s the excuse making equivalent of “I’m not racist but…”, nobody buys that shit either.
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haha. exactly
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
I believe it Andy doens't have a history of excuse making
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair he's only lost 4 times so he doesn't have to make excuses very often
He made the ankle injury excuse after the Chonan loss as well. It seems a common trait amongst the dominant champions of the past and present that they have to make excuses to justify a defeat or a bad display, GSP, Fedor and BJ are also guilty of that the few times they do lose or look bad just as Andy is. Maybe that’s part of the reason that at their peak they are so great as they’re all very competetive people who want to be the best, though I don’t like hearing anyone make excuses for anything. At least we don’t have to listen to those guys moan very often (well except BJ).
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What excuse did Fedor make I don't remember that?
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to know also.
All Fedor said after Werdum is that him losing means he obviously hasn’t trained hard enough and automated his moves to the point of more correct decision making. Hardly an excuse.
"NOBODY wants to fight Fedor." - Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner
I think David’s referring to when Fedor said he kind of rushed it and was impatient.
But if it were seen as an excuse, it’s a justified one, because he really made an error there and fell into Werdum’s trap. Not to take anything away from Werdum, but Fedor lost due to his own error more than being truly outclassed and beaten.
But there’s a thin line between saying that and not giving Werdum credit for winning. But I’m not trying to say that. He beat Fedor. But not decisively enough for us to think he would be the favorite if they fought again.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
knowing what you did wrong is part of being a great fighter.
so Fedor actually came off great in the post fight interview.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
He claimed that Werdum only beat him because he made a mistake
He also discredited BJJ as a martial art in later interviews and even said it was God’s plan for him to lose. Yes it’s not the same as bringing up injuries or bad training like Andy, BJ and GSP have in their losses but it’s still pretty bad to discredit someones win and act as if you’re the better man but got cocky staying in your opponents guard and that’s the only reason you lost. Maybe excuse is the wrong word for Fedor but that bothered me, I don’t like guys trying to justify losses or talk down the ability of someone who beat them decisively. I bet if anyone other than Fedor said those things then they would be considered cocky not humble.
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Actually...
Much as I hate Silva, Sonnen landed because he had the threat of a takedown.
Look at Okami-Munoz. Okami is a far better striker, but Munoz tagged him because his hands were low and waiting for a takedown.
Against a pure striker, Anderson’s defense is going to be much better.
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
I agree with that for sure
My point is this.. however you chalk it up… Chael out struck Andy on the feet and on the ground. I dont think Sonnen is a better striker.. he just was that night
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Sep 22, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Andy did get the knockdown
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Most people seem to forget that knockdown
Andy had his hands very low and Chael took advantage, I think it was a combination of having a low stance to defend the takedowns, having little respect for Sonnen’s power and trying to showboat as usual. This time Andy was caught flat footed and it almost cost him the title. I hope that he doesn’t try dropping his hands against Vitor or else he’ll get KO’d.
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he won't
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuckin retarded
Shows how much this organization is about business over fighters.
If it was not about business then the organization will go the way of Affliction and the DOHDOH bird.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
you think thats why affliction failed eh?
by theworldismine on Sep 22, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Affliction failed because of a bad business model that was similiar to WCW. Lets over pay everyone
and not have a clue as to where we are going.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
That is true
but hows that relate to this? The UFC has plenty of options and an established viewership base
by theworldismine on Sep 22, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
They do but Andersons track record of PPV buys is not too great.
It was because Sonnen had a big trap that allowed for the buys to reach over 600K I believe. Usually Andy’s PPV buyrate is betwenn 200 and 300K Not real good for a champ. So UFC has to think how can we maximize Andy and at the same time get a good buy rate. Nate is plywood personality. Okami can be substituted by a Dead or Alive pillow, so the best business choice is Vitor. He has history, personality, smack’d down the last MW champ and is a on a winning streak. Thus business wise this is the most logical way to go.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
true enough man
still really sucks for Okami and Marquardt though
by theworldismine on Sep 22, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
It does and hell I like Marquardt and his super combos but these are the breaks.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
yeah
make Vitor and Okami fight and give the winnner a shot. Anderson can wait, he’s injured anyways
by theworldismine on Sep 22, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember, kids!
You don’t need to win a fight in your organization’s division before fighting for a title!
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
Well at least you have to win in this organization; I hear the other gives you a shot after three straight losses.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
super dope match-ups
I’m just wondering what was up with the bad intel on Vitor being injured. Last night he was injured and this morning he has a title shot…nice
by KO Shrimp on Sep 22, 2010 2:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Def not! Silva will pick him apart!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
yeah,
back peddling is great defence displayed by Wanderlei.
by theworldismine on Sep 22, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
I have to admit Vitor was lightning fast at 21 years old. Potentially the fastest hands ever in MMA at the time.
"NOBODY wants to fight Fedor." - Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner
he's got power in his hands, for sure
by theworldismine on Sep 22, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea quick and powerful! More so than Andy, but Silva's accuracy is fn AMAZING!!!!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
It was bigger? Really?
I haven’t noticed
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
The above video is a lesson on why you DON'T back straight up when in trouble.....
you can’t back up faster than the attacker can move forward
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by WarriorSaint on Sep 22, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
cant see vid
But judging by comments I’m assuming its vitor/wandy?
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by salamagogo on Sep 22, 2010 2:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah you know it.
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
nobody showed it to brock, obviously
Haha…gotta sprinkle some brock hate here and there…or everywhere,if possible
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by salamagogo on Sep 22, 2010 2:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
same thing would have happened if he circled away he was rocked already
by Weedsuplement on Sep 22, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Not necessarily...boxers do it all the time in order to recover.....you never back straight up
Just ask Andrei Arlovski
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by WarriorSaint on Sep 22, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Vitor gets picked apart in this fight,
He’s fast and has great hand speed but he’s all offense no defense.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
nonsense!
The only thing he will have to defend that night is mobs of ravenous fans reaching for him as he exits, immediately after his victory speech
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by salamagogo on Sep 22, 2010 2:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
we'll see I guess, Vitor got Franklin and that ain't easy but Linland and Martin don't inspire confidence.
Vitor hasn’t performed well against a lot of elite fighters I don’t see how this is gonna be different
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i wont argue that
But he is older,hopefully more mature mentally, and I know time doesn’t heal everything,but the more time that passes after what happened to his sister has to do more good than harm
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by salamagogo on Sep 22, 2010 2:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe but the saying "old habbits die hard" comes to mind
It’s gonna be a good fight I just don’t think anyone can hang on the feet with Silva
Drink to remember, drink to forget.
by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry Sal, to much hoping going on in your retort....Sooner is right
old habits die hard and Vitor is pretty much the same Vitor we have always known….dangerous as all get out but very much defeatable at the same time.
He is like Rampage but with faster hands and no punch defense…..neither guy you would want to brawl with.
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by WarriorSaint on Sep 22, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Classic Vitor
He came in I believe @ 190 for this fight against Wandy.. This was UFC Brasil.. Pedro Rizzo beat Tank Abbot on this card.
injuries, drug suspensions, the UFC is pretty much becoming like the NFL with the
exeception that the NFL championship games are filled with teams that belong there.
"Clearly you don't know our women, I could have marched them up here based off of what I have seen this morning."
~ King Leonidas
I'll go out on a limb and say Vitor gets injured before the fight
Am I right?
by Lester The Pimp on Sep 22, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions
Not quite Lester......Vitor won't make weight before the fight
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by WarriorSaint on Sep 22, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
vitor will rip andersons head off
Kratos style….(Hopefully)
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by salamagogo on Sep 22, 2010 2:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
you probably won't want to hear this but.....
….. Anderson Silva is gonna smash Vitor & make it look easy
THIS
I’m a huge Anderson fan, and while I may come off as biased, I agree. I jut can’t see Vitor putting up a legitement test. At the end of the day, everyone is stll gonna be talking about the Sonnen fight just to talk smack about Silva
Right now I'd say Silva should be favored
Stronger chin and less likely to get cut.
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by RogersPark Kris on Sep 22, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
without a doubt
Plus vitors long layoff…I don’t see anderson being the underdog against anyone at mw or lhw…hell I think hed even be the favorite against a few small heavyweights…I still want vitor to smash him
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by salamagogo on Sep 22, 2010 2:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Truth.....I still don't buy the hype on Vitor....Beating Franklin still doesn't prove anything
to me as Andy exposed Franklin for the fighter he is, good but not truly great.
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by WarriorSaint on Sep 22, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't buy it either
Hell, Liddell was giving Franklin a run for his money until Rich pushed the KO button on his chin. I’m going with Silva by 1st/early 2nd rd KO
Vitor is a proven commodity, you get what you’ve seen. ( like the above Gif) That being said I think Rogers is right I wouldn’t be surprised it Andy won by cut. Vitor doesn’t have the evasiveness to stand with Silva
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
No, Rich is great
Andy’s just ridiculous.
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
^^this^^
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
Andy just makes great fighters look bad, it doesn’t mean that they are.
And Vitor would be a much tougher challenge if he hadn’t have been inactive for so long, at this point I don’t see him being at his best at all and he’ll need to be at his quickest, fittest and strongest to beat Andy.
"Stay classy San Diego"
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and yet Andy clearly states
that Rich Franklin is still the toughest guy he ever fought. I will take Andy opinion over your all day long.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
I don't point to the Chael Sonnen fight to talk trash about Silva
I look at the Maia fight. And when I really want to laugh at Andy, I rewatch the Ryo fight. All Chael did was remind us that this is the fight game, anything can happen. To discount Vitor completely is a big mistake, one that I hope Silva makes.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
Vitor will make Andy bite the curb, Gears style
by KO Shrimp on Sep 22, 2010 2:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
come to think of it
Andersons head is kinda shaped like that of a locust (gears of war enemy,not insect)
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by salamagogo on Sep 22, 2010 2:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
well, lets not get too excited yet
Andersons camp may decise vitor isn’t worthy anymore and pull an injury card of their own
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by salamagogo on Sep 22, 2010 2:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
that baby back rib injury is a good card to play.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
that's a real possibility...and sadly the fans will pay for the shadyiness
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by WarriorSaint on Sep 22, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Okami Overlooked, Marquart stepping up, Leban in the mix
YET Vitor gets a shot straight away. Guys like Leban and Marquart take fights at short notice because the really want their shot. Okami turns up every time and never complains yet he is constantly ingnored. Vitor has one fight since returning to the ufc and scores a title shot? Based on what? His past success? Beating a Math teacher at 205lb?
When Anderson knocks him out the other ‘real’ challengers will get the shot they deserve. Another reason why the UFC needs a ranking system!
by The Grecian Glaswegian on Sep 22, 2010 2:26 PM EDT reply actions
He beat one of the greatest MW ever at Franklinweight, not 205
He doesn’t deserve it but neither does anyone else.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
catch weight - whatever
He is the Brock of the MW devision – a meal ticket – PPV is all they care about these days. Something wrong with ANDERSON vs SHOGUN or ANDERSON vs GSP???? These are REAL match ups! JON JONES vs ANDERSON? Far more interesting! If they need a proper matchmaker. i’ll interview.
by The Grecian Glaswegian on Sep 22, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Franklin is the Brock of the MW division?
I don’t get it.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s talking about Belfort.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
I still don't follow
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Aww, man (sigh). Belfort getting the “undeserved” shot at the title like Brock did, because he sells more PPVs or makes for a better match-up. Are you with me?
Personally, I don’t agree with it. I say this is a great match-up and I’m looking forward to it. Vitor has built enough of a name for himself to deserve a shot. He has a good chance too.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
Gotcha, do you really thinkVitor is gonna have a big effect on the draw rate?
I know a UFC title shot is different but at Affliction he didn’t really pull any numbers. Good fight for sure and i’m with you it would be nice if he earned it.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Vitor has a very old school fan base
With that said, I doubt it will be anywhere near the draw of Sonnen, but it will be much better than Okami or Nate
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by enzo-enormous on Sep 22, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
This would be very sad
But you are probably right. This is going to be a really fun fight.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
I don’t know — all I know is it is a better match-up and that he does deserve it. Maybe it would have been good to see him fight once at MW first, just to warm up, but if it all fits in place, it fits in place — and it fits in place!
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
love it.
Dont care if it is his first fight at 185, it would be so much sweeter when he takes the belt from Anderson.
Stop complaining this is a awesome fight !
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by robinhorobson on Sep 22, 2010 2:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Takes the belt?
Vitor WAS a great fighter, his trilogy of fights against Couture were legendary BUT the sport has evolved where the Spider rules . Andy will EAT Vitor… and every one else until he retires, or until Roy Jones Jr accepts a boxing match, or until Fedor comes to the UFC.
by The Grecian Glaswegian on Sep 22, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions
No Way
Can’t see Vitor beating Anderson, Gonna be a great fight but Anderson is too much of a counter puncher and will pick him apart. Only relevant person Vitor has beaten lately is Franklin, besides that there was Linland. He even lost to Dan Henderson we all remember what Anderson did to Henderson
What the fans deserve...
Anderson Vs Jon Jones at 185lb
Anderson vs GSP at catch-weight (178lb ?)
Anderson Vs Shogun at 205lb
All possible though we all know GSP is too concerned about his “legacy” to ever fight Anderson!
by The Grecian Glaswegian on Sep 22, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt Jones can make 185 that would be scary though
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I would sell my family
Anderson VS Shogun – biggest fight in MMA since Fedor took on Cro-Cop – debut UFC event at Madison Square Garden ???
Dana, make it happen!
Joe, make it happen!
by The Grecian Glaswegian on Sep 22, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Jon Jones at 185 — that’s fucking laughable.
Silva vs Shogun at 205: Best superfight going around. I would love to see it. I’ve wanted it for ages.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
Jon Jones at 185 — that’s fucking laughable.
OK. At 205 then? Afterall, Anderson knocks out Light heavyweights for fun!
by The Grecian Glaswegian on Sep 22, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, 205 would be nice to see. But Shogun/Andy first.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
what did jones wrestle at?
yea i doubt he can make it now especially since he’ll probly end up at HW once he grows into body (sounds insane to say it.)
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 22, 2010 3:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree
And I wonder that myself now that you brought it up.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
For christ sake
I feel like they are playing the most annoying version of musical chairs possible.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
Give me a HELL YEAH!!!
This is the fight every1 wants 2 see I can’t wait. War Vitor!!!
by d*locc on Sep 22, 2010 2:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Funny how thats exactly what i said....
If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
if Vitor doesn’t destroy him in the first round then Anderson will take it. Vitors my favorite fighter by he breaks mentally pretty easy. maybe it had to do with his sister i don’t know, but since that has been cleared up he’s looked like a killer. if anyone has a punchers chance it’s Vitor and god i hope he knocks the fuck out of him.
Does anyone remember this?
This is my 1st post on this site. I had to join to remind people of this promise from Dana White. I have not paid for a PPV since 112, because I am sick of wasting my money. Can someone Tweet Dana and tell him to make good on his Promise?
“What I’m going to end up doing is probably taking a big, huge fight that should have been on pay-per-view and put it on free TV. I’m actually working on it right now. I said I’d make up for that, and trust me, I’m gonna.”
Can you imagine how pissed of you would be if you were at UFC 112 and saw that live? What a joke!
we have all been waiting
I believe Dana is trying to pretend the next UK card is the makeup for that one. Ya know, the one where Bizz is headlining. I couldn’t bring myself to shun all events like you have indicated that you have. You have some serious discipline.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
Those should be free anyhow, and Bisping should not be a PPV headliner.
Those should be free anyhow, and Bisping should not be a PPV headliner. I watched some of the fights since then, but at the Bar. I am not paying 45 bucks until he makes good on his promise. I have spent thousands of dollars on UFC events, give dog a bone!
I agree
On all points. I want to see a card with titles on the line, for free. I just can’t bring myself to not order the PPVs. I didn’t order Griffin/Ortiz II and I won’t be buying the card this weekend, but everything else, yeah, he got my money.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
but we had him see several doctors
until we found one that agreed with me. Nothing to see here.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
Agree
I live in Scotland and travelled to London for rampage vs henri. Bizz against sexyama just don’t cut it these days. Besides, the uk deserves better than 5 fights featuring a guy from the wolfslair – Dana should stop patronising us in Th uk and give us a decent line up. On a plus though we do get all the ppv shows for free here in the Uk on ESPN
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by The Grecian Glaswegian on Sep 22, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
That is one good thing about being in the UK
But, the live events suck balls.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
Awesome! Belfort vs Anderson!
Bets fight for him at middleweight, I am excited to see Andy destroy Vitor in the first.
I think Marquardt will beat Okami rather easily and he is next for a second loss to the Spider.
Okami got screwed again… Vitor was a much easier fight for him with his skillset.
"NOBODY wants to fight Fedor." - Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner
Really? I think Martquart is an easier fight than Belfort except maybe taking the long layoff into consideration
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 22, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Marquardt is much stronger and has significantly better wrestling than Vitor.
Okami’s gameplan would have been to smother Vitor on the ground, and I was giving him a good chance to take the decision. I am not sure what his gameplan for Nate might be, I don’t give him much of a chance.
"NOBODY wants to fight Fedor." - Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner
I like it too.
But what are the chances that everyone is healthy by fight time and those fights actually happen as announced? With the UFC’s luck I’d say 50-50.
"NOBODY wants to fight Fedor." - Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner
agreed. I just purchased tickets to 123, now i’m holding my breath hughes and penn both stay healthy for 2 months
With Penn you don't need to worry, he is not training anyways :)
Matt already had 2 fights this year and hasn’t taken a lot of damage. So I think you got really good chances to get that card as announced. Machida and Rampage are pretty good in terms of health.
"NOBODY wants to fight Fedor." - Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner
belfort vs silva?
why?
does one win in another weight class earn you a shot?
could marquet KO Lidell and get a shot?
or would it have to be some former middle champ?
just wondering,
UFC really needs to work on a system
of developing marketable enyertaining challengers
so they won’t go “drafting”
such challengers (in their perception)
from outside
just seems a little unfair to thew other middle challengers to have belfort walk in and get a shot
how badly do they want the belt taken from silva?
whos this "marquet" person?
sounds like a french chick or the like~~
by Lester The Pimp on Sep 22, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
prediction
heres what i thinks gonna happen
first okami is gonna grind out a decision from marquardt in a rather crap match
next silva is gonna dance and run around like the knob he is against belfort to win a unaminous decision in an even more crapper match than silva vs maia at ufc 112
"Anderson, you are going to be on your back more than a pornstar with a mortgage." - chael sonnen
Its all very well prancing and posturing around when your fighting Maia who haz zero standup
Belfort however, bangs like a shit house door in a hurricane so I think Silva has to respect that, bring his A game and take the fight ultra serious.
that is a fair point but you don’t know how silva is gonna perform in this fight and judging by recent interviews which i have seen silva doesn’t really care if he is cut from the ufc he only cares about reputation. that isn’t taking away how good he is, but what im trying to say is that silva only cares about winning even if he looks like a jackass whilst doing it and the maia fight wasn’t the first time he did similar stuff in the fights with cote and thales lietes
"Anderson, you are going to be on your back more than a pornstar with a mortgage." - chael sonnen
by curlykid 218 on Sep 23, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but Cote or leites dont have near the standup of belfort either
You say he “only cares about reputation”, so why does he go out there and act like a total jackass and be so disrespectful to his opponents??? I wouldn’t want to have a reputation as a jackass who’s constantly booed, not when I have the ability to have finished every one of those fights without getting out of second gear.
once again a fair point but silva relly doesn,t give a fuck what i meant by ’ he only cares about reputation’ ( and i probably rehased that wrongly) is that he only cares about winning
"Anderson, you are going to be on your back more than a pornstar with a mortgage." - chael sonnen
by curlykid 218 on Sep 24, 2010 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions
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