MMA Quick Quote: UFC 111 notwithstanding, Georges St. Pierre has 'very exciting' fights
by Jesse Holland on Sep 22, 2010 9:17 AM EDT
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"It was only my last fight. My other fights before (UFC 111) were very exciting, they were all very exciting. My last fight, people criticized me of course but if I would have got that armbar in the first round, no one would have said nothing and in the third round, the same thing, the Kimura. Sometimes the line is very tiny between a very good win in a great fashion and a decision."
UFC Welterweight Champion Georges St. Pierre responds to criticism (via MMA Digest) surrounding the recent backlash towards wrestling based offensive attacks that have carried some fighters to victory in spite of crowd satisfaction. "Rush" contends that his unanimous decision win over Dan Hardy at UFC 111 could be viewed as less than exciting, but fans also started booing his five rounder against Thiago Alves back at UFC 100 in July 2009. Are GSP fans spoiled from his dominant run as champion? Or just fed up with wrestlers taking the fight to the ground to avoid danger on the feet?
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Uhmm no?
Alves fight sucked, just like Fitch before that
by Lester The Pimp on Sep 22, 2010 9:24 AM EDT reply actions
I like the Fitch fight but
the Alves and Penn fight myself and everybody I watched it with thought it was boring. I like how GSP is trying to make comments on his own fights. lol His next fight will be another 5 ruond snuggle fest unless Kos takes him out.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
i really enjoyed the fitch fight had alot of action
by couldn't get me old name on Sep 22, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed
Never before, have I so clearly heard the sound of a face breaking...
by Spinning Fat Kick on Sep 22, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
The Fitch fight was the geginning of the downward spiral
by Man_Made_God on Sep 22, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
No, the Kos fight was...
That was his first fight after the KO loss to Serra which we all know is why he doesn’t stand for long anymore. He hasn’t finished a real WW who doesn’t also fight at LW and who isn’t a dinosaur in lord knows how long. Just like my sig says.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
And who has finished this narrow category of WWs?
He came closer to finishing Fitch than anyone else ever has at WW. Hell, he did more damage than Fitch’s last 20 opponents combined.
He came closer to finishing Alves than anyone (aside from when Alves walked into an upkick), dropping him twice with punches which is something nobody has ever done.
He came closer to finishing Hardy than anyone since his rookie year.
The reason you haven’t seen finishes in ages is that it’s been ages since GSP has fought cans like Yoshida, lower level fighters like Hazelett and Rumble, over the hill fighters like Hughes and Trigg, etc. It’s a joke that Koscheck thinks he has KO power while GSP doesn’t and is gunshy. What GSP did to Hughes, Fitch, Penn, and Alves is a much more impressive showing of punching power than what Koscheck did to Yoshida and Trigg.
The only guy that GSP didn’t finish that has been KO’d before is Koscheck. We’ll see what happens in December. I’m expecting the same thing we saw the last time GSP fought a wrestler.
why? please explain?
The fitch fight was awesome, and could have bee stopped a number of times. Fights have been stopped for much less than the whoopin he gave fitch in rd 1
I'm gonna go home, watch DirecTV, drink bud light and ride my Harley Davidson!!
by Newfie3 on Sep 22, 2010 9:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
HE gave Fitch a beating yes, but to go in and wrestle a collegate wrestler who has sub par stand up is bad
GSP ownd the stand up in RD 1 then decided to play it safe for RD’s 2-5. Why not strike when you clearly have your opponent out-classed?
GSP’s own fear of getting Serra’ed again is gonna cost him fans in the long run
by Man_Made_God on Sep 22, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know why GSP even wastes his time explaining himself......
He needs to do a King Mo and tell all the anti wrestling anti decision idiots to go fuck themselves.
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 22, 2010 9:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
no point trying to have this argument
If you didn’t enjoy the GSP Fitch fight, I don’t even really want to talk to you. That was an ass beating of epic proportions. Fitch is a tough SOB and no one had ever done that shit to him before. Fitch nullifies the strengths of everyone he ever fights and GSP made him look silly. Also, I hate GSP, but that doesn’t mean I am blind to his skills.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
If you didn’t enjoy the GSP Fitch fight, I don’t even really want to talk to you.
lmao
+1
-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)
by *Californication* on Sep 22, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
“He needs to do a King Mo and tell all the anti wrestling anti decision idiots to go fuck themselves.”
People don’t mind wrestlers who can finish, it’s the wrestlers who “play the clock” and don’t finish… FINISH a fight which NOBODY likes!
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
GSP never plays the clock
and does try to finish, but he still getting shit from people. I do not hear any of them blaming his pathetic opponents for not making it more entertaining for them. You guys should just stick to watching fighers like Phil Baroni and Nate Quarry if you are not bothered about any other aspect of MMA apart from watching guys stand up and bang. Is the fact that he is fighting tough opponents who may be difficult to finish, that hard for you to accept.. You keyboard warriors make it sound as if you can go in there and do a better job yourselves. Stop fucking whining and change the damn record.
haha yes yes yes. how can u not like that fight. and i enjoyed the alves fight as well. haters gonna hate
by Burlzilla129 on Sep 22, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
No...
Hating is when somebody tries to dogg somebody for no valid reason, never being able to finish people even in 5 rounds is a valid reason to criticize so wake up and realize that nobody is hating. More like people need to jump off the band wagon and think for themselves.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
Hating is when somebody tries to dogg somebody for no valid reason
Like complaining about the most dominant fighter of the last few years? I suppose Jose Aldo has an argument for being as dominant, but he hasn’t faced the same level of competition as GSP. Point is you’re clearly hating.
Are you really more impressed by Anderson Silva finishing Chael Sonnen despite being absolutely dominated for 4.5 rounds than you are by GSP completely dominating his last 7 opponents?
Finishing fights is great but what happens before that is a lot more important. Pulling a submission out of your ass to avoid losing a lopsided decision will never be as indicative of being an amazing fighter as dominating your opponent from bell to bell and winning a decision. But you go right along and keep telling yourself you’re not hating.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
i disagree
being essentially beaten down for twenty plus minutes and showing the heart and presence of mind to finish your opponent is an epic display of a quality that can not be taught! the true heart of a champion. this is much more indicative of an amazing fighter than some one who has merely learned many skills.. anderson silva a legend now>bj penn quittin on the stool
That's fair.
And it was an incredible display of heart. I’m just more impressed by the guy who is so good that he doesn’t get beaten down in the first place.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
fitch is known as one of the best wrestlers in the sport
To put him on his back, pass his guard (which NO ONE could do until GSP), and make him look stupid is a feather in G’s hat
Maybe one of his life goals was to make all AKA guys realize they aren’t that good at wrestling as is their claim to fame
I'm gonna go home, watch DirecTV, drink bud light and ride my Harley Davidson!!
by Newfie3 on Sep 22, 2010 9:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And is it his goal to do it again?
Must be
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
He went for 2 TD’s in round 1, 1 in rounds 2-4 and 2 in round 5. GSP only went for 7 TDs (landed 5) the entire fight, so how did he turn it into a wrestling match after the first round? You might want to go back and watch that fight again.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Good Job, you've heard of www.fightmetric.com im really impressed
by Man_Made_God on Sep 22, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Apparently you haven’t because you think it was a wrestling match from the 2nd round on.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
To his credit
that was a helluva rebuttal. Completely sidestepped everything you said.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
It truly was…why mess with facts when you have subjective opinion on your side.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
You only need 5 takedowns in a championship fight to make it a wrestling match!
That’s all it takes to lay on a guy the whole fight. Not saying that’s what GSP did, bc it wasn’t, but your logic is off by saying that.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
My logic isn’t off because we were speaking specifically of what happened in this fight…not what makes a wrestling match. If I were making a general statement then yes, I would have been wrong.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Hey! It's my bitch!!!
I remember I embarrassed your stupid ass for trying to stick up for GSP. You even posted long after I stop checking the site which didn’t matter cause you lost every round so even if you got the last word in it wouldn’t save you. Anyway, how have you been? Still have the taste of my nuts in your mouth? lol
Just to let everybody who’s pint up know that I made this guy the freezer on this site so feel free to put your meet in him… again.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
You’re still smoking crack and pole I see. You didn’t own anything you fucking retard, I won everything we ever debated. I see that your desire to stay in the closet by engaging in homosexual finger pointing is still the only thing you talk about….well done, nobodies caught on.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Ya see...
I told you he would lie about winning… he just claims that he wins without backing up he debate which in fact he did lose! Read the posts an you’ll see just like he’s losing again cause I brought up points to why he lost. Also, don’t talk about your people when you’re gay at the level where you can guess the flavor of a pop sickle just by sitting on it. I’m also funnier which is another reason I won plus noticed how he replied while I was still typing my last comment… the dude lives on this site and has no life. Not only did I win on here but also in life! lol Watch him claim how he “won” again like he’s able to judge the debate himself. It’s funnies than his stupid arguments.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
Hey GSP nut hugger aka my slut...
name the last fighter he finished who was a natural WW and isn’t an MMA dinosaur. lol
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
Serra
Hasn’t fought at LW for quite sometime and considers himself a natural WW as much as you don’t want to believe it.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Also wasn't even a top 10 guy...
until he knocked out GaySPee
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
He gave Penn quite the fight for being so shitty.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Layin on top of him...
was more impressed with Frankie beating him everywhere. I didn’t say GSP was “shitty” nice reading comprehension. lol He’s just not as good as people hype him up to be.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
It’s been fun Oswald as usual…I will check back later to see what horrible arguement you’ve come up with next….Winner out!!!!
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Bowing out as always like...
only a loser would do. saying GSP got an immediate rematch with Serra when he didn’t and thinking GSP vs hardy was more impressive than Andy vs Forrest and also that you think the WW class is more stacked then LHW which everybody else knows is the most stacked class makes you win? lol You don’t even believe that, calling yourself the winner doesn’t make you win, guess you’ve failed to comprehend that. Beat you with your own shit again! Plus people laughed at you… not with you. Throws hands up!
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
LMAO!
No way was GSP/Hardy was more impressive than Silva/Forrest! Andy made Forrest (former champ) look like a beginner! Silva was the fn Matrix in that fight! GSP out wrestled Hardy and had horrible technic with his subs. Forrest ran away crying after he woke up!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
Kinda funny that you point out Forrest's former champ status when it makes Silva look good . . .
but then completely shit talk him and claim that he’s the worst champion in UFC history.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
Where did I say GSP got an immediate rematch…oh, that’s right, I didn’t. There you go making up shit AGAIN. You really like rewriting history buddy.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Forrest does suck and I make that clear all the time, don't need to say that in every post.
Doesn’t change the FACT that Silva made The former 205 CHAMP look like a CHUMP! Remember, Silva did that a weight class above his too! That would never happen in GSP’s case bc he is content fighting the Hardy’s of the world And can’t move up 15 lbs, while Silva moves up 20 lbs and makes them all look silly!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
You think a guy who walks around 215-220 fighting at 205 is more impressive than a guy who walks around at about 190 fighting at 185? GSP fighting at 185 would be a lot more impressive than Anderson Silva fighting at 205, at least when comparing their ‘natural size’ to that of their weight class.
The weight difference between classes matters a lot less than the size a fighter is relative to the class he’s fighting in.
You also failed to mention that Anderson Silva moved up in weight to fight a barely top-20 James Irvin and Forrest Griffin, who also matches up horribly with Silva.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
If you look at the number of posts I have you would realize I don’t live on this site. Nice try. I guess you’re funny, like laughing at retards can be considered funny, but you’re a far cry from being considered intelligent or witty. I hope people go back and read those, cause it will illustrate your lack of both reading comprehension and ingenuity.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
I'm on here at this moment...
you’re on here EVERY moment. You always replied right after I typed something which I don’t do except for certain moments like now. You are ALWAYS on here. Oh yeah, there’s another fake insult he tried using on me was about my “reading comprehension”. Don’t know how much more I can proof about being smarter than this joke but they say you can’t teach stupid and he’s a clear result of that. I could say you have no MMA comprehension and that would hold more water.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
Start by not saying proof.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Weak...
I’m not a fast typer and don’t proof read my posts so nice try trying to deflect that fact that you’re losing an MMA debate. WW class is more stacked than LHW competitively. LMAO! That’s all I have to do is bring up stupid crap that you said whenever you try to bring up something that weak. A typo, oooo! lol
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
hahaha
You’re post had nothing to do with an ‘mma debate’ and therefore my reply didn’t. Now if you had said something relevant to this topic or anything else MMA related, I would have responded to that, but alas, you didn’t. Don’t cry foul when you’re the one who changed the game.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
no one should have to explain this simple fact to you
You are blogging mma on the internets as well. If I called you a cocksucker are you going to get hung up on the fact that you only had a “few” penises in your mouth?
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
To a point it's all
opinion based but there is a fine line on certain things that you could agree is a stupid opinion.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
sure, there are some obvious things
but come on man. Everyone likes different styles – styles make fights and he may prefer certain things that you don’t. I think 205 is the most stacked division, but I am not going to jump down someone’s throat if they disagree. There may be a little guy posting here who thinks the 155 division is best, no matter what, just because of the energy in those fights.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
He won’t understand Duece so don’t try unless you want your very own stalker.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
No I get it...
but he comes off so arrogant about it that I had to dog him. You didn’t see his original posts and you can tell by his d-bag like attitude how he handles thigns. I just put him in his place which if you’re starting from here does seem harsh.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
pretending he has a stalker again… boy prob hasn’t gotten p*ssy since it had him.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
I don’t have an attitude at all…I get along with everyone here but you. That should tell you something. Post the stuff so they can see…I didn’t get personal until you did. Rewriting history again, I have thick skin though and I’m really just laughing at this.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
So do I but then again you’re on this site way more so that tells nobody anything. Don’t pretend it should. I just have to keep bustin your balls for pretending that I haven’t proved your stupid ass wrong about something’s like GSPs immediate rematch and you claiming like you know that certain divisions are more stacked than others which everyone disagrees with. It’s not about fact vs opinion which your stupid ass can’t seem to “comprehend” but you come off as if it was in the beginning. Funny how you changed your tone. :) Of course you’ll come back and claim otherwise plus being boring on top of that but I would expect that from somebody who’s dumb enough to waves at a blind person and thinks he’s smart for finding a typo. lol
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
Haha there is a little guy who posts on here who prefers the lighter weight classes
LHW is the most stacked but I’m a bigger fan of the lower weights, usually they involve the most skill, speed and technique plus most of those guys have much better cardio than those in the higher weights (with some glaring exceptions) so they can keep up a faster pace for a longer amount of time and that’s what I like to see, as well as finishes.
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
That was a reply to one of deuces comments way further up the page btw
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
Also, this jackass thought
that the 170 class was more stacked than the 205 class! LMAO Even thought he made a point cause inside MMA had 8/10 UFC top 10 at 205 and like 9/10 at WW when that doesn’t matter cause they’re so many guys at 205 that not all of them are listed in the top 10. That’s why the title changes so much. At that time Jones wasn’t even a top 10 guy there but Hughes was #9 or so at WW. lol THAT’S proof that the 205 division is more stacked. Plus it’s well known to everybody who is a real MMA fan.
He also thought GSP holding somebody down for 5 rounds was somehow just as impressive as what Anderson did to Forrest… umm not possible. It’s reason’s like this why everybody saw me beat him like a drum but watch him claim he won. lol
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
You're right, but unfortunately it's not 'ha ha' funny
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
Wow…rewriting history again I see. Fantasy can be fun. I never said more stacked, I said as competitive…. which a lot of people may or may not agree with. You have a very real problem in differentiating between opinion and fact…you think that majority equals fact which it doesn’t.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Popular opinion means alot..
you should respect it before claiming your statements. You were so sure that WW was more stacked and it’s not even for your weak “competitive” argument cause GSP has laid on all of those guys for 5 rounds. The title has changed hands a ton at LHW so that means that it’s in FACT more “competitive”. Lost around round and now that you see that more people aren’t agreeing with you you’re starting to back down which is what you should have done in the first place cause I told you that you’re like a paraplegic trying to box with me.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
Paraplegic doesn’t mean you can’t box first of all, and says something about you because you’re losing. Second, I never said more stacked, you keep making that up because you didn’t understand what ‘as’ competitive means. The title position is not the only thing to consider when discussing the competitiveness of a division….there are other guys in the division you know…oh wait, I guess you don’t.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Right...
A paraplegic can box but you’re doing about as well as they would. Another claim that you can’t back up. Where have I ever lost. I out debated you on Anderson beating Forrest being more impressive than GSP laying on a guy for 5 rounds and that the LHW division is more stacked than WW. lol You lost. Go find a typo and pretend that makes you win this. Also, say something funny cause that people reading have laughed at what I’ve said about you which makes me win in their eyes as well. You’re getting clowned.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
Again…as stacked doesn’t mean more stacked, so try again. I think GSP beating up number one contenders for the last couple of years is more impressive than AS beating up Forrest. I don’t see a lot of people coming to your aid here dude, so again you’re delusional.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Now you're changing what you said?! lol
You said before that it was MORE stacked so don’t bow out like a bitch. Forrest beat top 205ers and Anderson cleaned out his division easier than GSP did cause he can finish them so yes it’s more impressive.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
Also, nobody is coming to your aid either. Nobody needs to come to mine. lol Deuce was just curious as to why I’m dogging you out cause he doesn’t know the whole story about how arrogant you were with you opinions and how I shut them down by backing myself up with more MMA knowledge. You thought GSP got an immediate rematch with Serra and you’re calling me a noob. lol Proved you wrong but you still claim that I haven’t. You’re a liar and a hypocrite and people see this.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
UFC has 13 of the top 15 WW in the world
And only 11 of the top 15 LHW, so by definition, WW is the thickest weight class in the UFC.
jay.
They are also should have looked at the striking numbers and who they are nothing compared to that of RD 1. Argument Fail
by Man_Made_God on Sep 22, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
You should look at the strike numbers. In round one there were 6 strikes from striking distance from GSP (only 1 from Fitch), but 62 on the ground from GSP and 9 from Fitch. Round 2 there were 0 ground strikes, while GSP and Fitch had a total of 39 standing (26-13). The standing actually increased between round 1 and 2. There were also less ground strikes than standing in round 4 as well but yes, there were more ground strikes than standing in round 5.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Always sticking up for GSP...
and your sexuality.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
Tell me where I’m wrong in that statement…oh that’s right you can’t cause you have no clue what you’re talking about.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Right....
I have no clue… that’s why I proved you wrong about most everything you’ve said and even reminded you in here but you’re playing stupid.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
You haven’t proved shit noob. Put up the conversations we had.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Search online for what everybody calls the most stacked division in MMA and how it’s the LHW division. You can stop pretending that I haven’t proofed you wrong. People are here and can see it. Also your comment about GSP laying on somebody for 5 rounds being just as impressive as what Andy did to Forrest is an opinion but a stupid one that pretty much everybody who isn’t retared would agree with.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
Also, noob… you don’t hang aroudn women much do you? lol Weren’t you also the one wh thought GSP got an immediate rematch with Serra or was that someone else? Talk about Noob.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
What people think isn’t proof you fucking Downs. Why can’t you understand opinion vs. fact and what actually qualifies as proof. Who is this everybody you speak of. You’re highschool buddies don’t count, cause clearly they’re getting the same education you are.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Not to stoke this fire
but Andy was a terrible, terrible fight for Forest. That was a giftwrapped win for Andy. A slow big guy, who will stand in front of you. Come on. Andy should have done what he does- and he did. GSP vs. Fitch. That was a thing of beauty. This just highlights the point that everyone has different opinions.
Last point- “search online for what everybody calls the most stacked division in MMA”
1. I believe this was a UFC conversation, not an mma conversation, but I may be wrong. This comment makes me think you are someone who thinks mma= ufc.
2. Everybody- those same everybodies are also the same jackasses that think Kimbo slice should be recognized as the top dog, and he would dethrone Brock just as easy as he would dethrone GSP. Following the masses is not solid ground for a good argument in mma.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
I do understand opinion vs fact dumbshit. Can you not COMPREHEND? lol Beating you with your own shit. Can you not understand that there are stupid opinions? The proof was that most consider the LHW division to be more stacked. Every MMA fan knows this and yes that is an opinion but it’s a fact that most agree with that opinion. It’s a fine line dip shit.
Deuce, how you bring up and represent your debate’s is commendable. It is a UFC debate but UFC is also MMA so that’s really not important. Silva has defended his belt longer and has finished more fight than GSP has plus has stepped up a weight class which GSP won’t do so it’s clearly more impressive wouldn’t you agree?
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
Yes, my name is deuce, and its ok to call me a turd
But, it doesn’t bode well for your seemingly purist take on how to properly debate.
Just because more people think that 205 is more stacked, doesn’t mean you are right. It means you agree with the majority.
Yes, many people agree with that opinion, but, millions of people also agree that Kimbo is a great fighter, doesn’t make that shit right.
My point with saying UFC, is that many newer fight fans think of mma as nothing but the UFC. Not trying to make any claims about whether you are new to the sport or not, plus it doesn’t much matter, but the way you described it was problematic for me. Many will agree that the UFC has a stacked 205 division. Those same people may argue that Dream and Sengoku are stacked at 155 and 170. Those same people might argue that the 185 division is the most stacked at SF. So, yes it matters, IMO anyways.
And no, I won’t say clearly more impressive. Yes, I want to see GSP move up. But what you are missing with Andy is clear:
1. He doesn’t sell well
2. The UFC wants him to sell well
3. The UFC wants to market him as unbeatable
4. The UFC sets up easy fights for him at 205 to make him more marketable.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
The 1st part was for MM_eh
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
Oh no...
long time MMA fan here… not just UFC but if you ARE an MMA fan then you know that it’s a top company and that is NOT a matter of opinion. Doesn’t mean that there aren’t great fighters outside of the company either.
Part of the reason Silva sales are weak is because until now he had pretty much cleaned out his division back when he beat Hendo. Hendo moved on, got old… Franklin went to LHW and others like Nate have struggles staying consistent. Alot of fans like myself want to see Silva go to LHW for good because him vs Shogun, Machida, Rashad, Rampage would def sell! Another problem is the fact that he doesn’t speak enough english. He speaks some from time to time and think he doesn’t know more than he lets on but not as much as GSP. Also, GSP is a pretty boy who chicks and MM_Eh love to look at and that sells. In my opinion as far as the hardcore fans go I think if Silva was at 205 I think people would want to see his fights more sticky on a fight stand point. Plus let’s not forget that GSP has shared some of his fights on the same card as Lesnar which was the real reason why it was so high. GSP by himself doesn’t quite do what Rampage and Lesnar can do or what Chuck used to do.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
My biggest beef with Silva
is that he can speak English, but chooses not to, while competing in an American promotion. He would sell a thousand times better if he just spoke some simple english. Sad, but true.
Don’t hate on Meh so much. I HATE GSP. HATE, but I respect him for the gay man he is. And GSP will sell in Canada though man. National damn hero.
I would love to see Silva with some real challenges at 205. Put him in with Rampage, Machida, Evans, hell, Randy would be a fun fight. But, Sandman and Forest were just fights put on to make him look good.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
Finally, an intelligent debate where someone isn’t TRYING to trash talk only to get worked like a part time job and as easily as I slaughtered numb nuts or no nuts… whatever that unisex person is.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
You were the one who started the trash talk you dumb shit. I will debate you on anything MMA but if you get personal so will I.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
It should never get personal around here bc what does that really mean?
We don’t know each other well enough to do so. Consider the source and never get upset about anything someone has to say on the internet. Just ignore and move on. If we did that and also ignored the loser trolls than this site would be even better.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
Well said.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
Did you even watch the fight?
Round 2 was all standup.
Round 3 was packed with action:
-The counter right that dropped Fitch and launched a snot rocket
-An attempt to get a RNC, a reversal by Fitch, and a sweep by GSP
-Finally, GSP rocked fitch with solid punches, two knees, a headkick, and a slam.
Round 4 was all standup.
Agree Newfie. The fitch fight was the last time I saw gsp go for the kill!
by d*locc on Sep 22, 2010 11:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Are you kidding me?
How about beating Penn to point where he said to his corner “thanks for stopping the fight. That could have been the end of my career.”
How about dropping Alves twice and doing as much GnP as he could, or sacrificing his groin to go for the RNC?
Some people are impossible to please. Even Dana White was impressed that GSP was able to drop Alves. The guy is a tank with an iron chin.
TDs need to be weighed less heavily in the score cards.
This is the problem with wrestling….
The problem is that to counter a boxer’s strength, you typically don’t use boxing. To counter a bjj guy’s strength, you typically don’t use bjj. But to counter a wrestler’s strength during a takedown at least , you have no choice but to wrestle less a well-timed, albeit, improbable blow.
People say fighters need to learn TD defense. Most people can spend 10 years learning TD defense and still not be able to stop a takedown from ppl like GSP.
TDs need to be weighed less heavily in the score cards, I think.
Agreed!!! If some of the pride rules were implemented... like nrth south knees to the head we might see less take downs.
If you could stomp the head after you stuff a take down the point wrestlers would think twice about going for a take down.
They won’t bring back knees to a downed fighter ever. Did you see the sports science with Rashad (who’s not even known for knees). That’s the reason they are illegal and I agree with that rule.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Agreed
Knees to the head and soccer kicks are assigned to the past. Hell the UFC isn’t even legal in NY yet, with the current rules set. Bringing back knees and soccer kicks would mean it never getting sanctioned there.
haha who cares it would be real fighting again
so many times the fight outcome would have changed if knees to the head and soccer kicks where allowed.
by Weedsuplement on Sep 22, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
plus wrestlers might actually finish lmao
by Weedsuplement on Sep 22, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I bet MM_eh thinks that the...
12 to 6 elbow isn’t a stupid rule either. What a moron, it’s not even the strongest elbows to throw. He’d know that if he wasn’t always staring at GSP’s ass while greased up laying on people for 5 rounds.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
It’s OK deuce, I take having a stalker as a compliment. I hope he doesn’t think it will lead to anything. He only ever talks about AS, GSP’s ass and me, yet accuses other people and their sexuality.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
You wish your ugly ass...
would ever get a stalker. You started something that you can never win and I’m reminding you of it. :) Calling yourself the winner when you clearly lost every debate doesn’t change this.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
Yup, clearly lost opinion debates….fuck you’re stupid. You think you won, I know I did…so where does that leave us… Oh, that’s right, me awesome while you’re still a retard.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
GSP not getting an immediate rematch was an opinion? Talk about stupid, you’re the type who’d sell your car so you could have money for gas. lol Lost another round, yeah… real awesome. So awesome that the only time you ever get some ass is when your fingers slip through the toilet paper. Don’t pretend that you’ve won at anything in here or in life cause it shows.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
Well, MMA is a sport and not streetfighting. Realise it and go watch a streetfight if it doesn't suit you.
"Do you want your granmother do die like a little bird in some hospitalroom? Her translucent skin so thin, you can see her last heartbeat work its way down her blue vein. Or do you want her to meat Chuck Norris?" Bill Hicks
Real fighting?
Is that where I break a bottle over your head? I can go to a thousand different dive bars to watch that.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
Yeah who cares if people die in the cage o_O
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
You guys are idiots. I didn't know anyone died in Pride???
A street fight has knees to the balls, eye gouging, and hair pulling.
by Weedsuplement on Sep 22, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Why not allow knees to the balls, eye gouging, and hair pulling then if it’s to be ‘real fighting again’? It’s about reducing risk and making sure these guys don’t die or suffer severe injuries that reduce quality of life. If you don’t get that then I can’t help you.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
better still lets have weapons in the octagon
Each fighter gets the choice of a bar stool, a broken bottle, a tire iron or a baseball bat – now that’s REAL FIGHTING!!!!
What does MMA try to do??? uhh duh simulate fighting sorry i put the word real infront of it.
DId i say street fighting peseg. NO
by Weedsuplement on Sep 22, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Every time MM_cock_ohh...
starts a debate he loses it big time.
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
So why allow elbows to the head??
those elbows to matuyshenkos temple looked about as bad as a knee to the head. If you don’t get that i can’t help you
Can you tell me what the difference is between a flying knee to the head standing up or a knee to someones head who is on their KNEE’S
by Weedsuplement on Sep 22, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Spine compression for one. Another factor is the mechanics of the skull. You can withstand much more force to the forehead when compared to that of the top of the head. This has to do with skull thickness as well as neck movement and force absorption. I’m not saying there isn’t risk in other techniques, but the risk of death and spinal injury in knees to a downed fighter is much much higher.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
North to south Kness to the top of the head would be super dangerous
You can easily get vertabrate compression when your neck snaps back aswell. North to south Kness to the top of the head are the only strike that I would agree with you are ssignificantly more dangerous. But knees to the head from sidemount or a crucifix don’t seem any more dangerous than other strikes. Soccer kicks to the head are no different that a standing head kick.
by Weedsuplement on Sep 22, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm personally glad there are no soccer kicks anymore
To me it always looked distinctly ungentlemanly and thuggish to kick a man while he’s down.
haha ya it is when the guy is ko'd already
but if he’s trying to get back up, its all good baby bay-ba
by Weedsuplement on Sep 22, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
You were referring to how it would change wrestler’s though so I assumed you were talking about the North/South knee during a sprawl. I’m not too against knees from a side position, but I didn’t think that was what you were talking about. As far as kicks go, I’m not a fan of kicking a downed fighter at all, and I think you can generate more impact when the guys down, but I don’t have any data to back that up.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
north south kness would benefit take down defense as much as wrestlers
by Weedsuplement on Sep 22, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
ya and i wasn't really clear on how it would benefit wrestlers sorry
but i remeber seeing mayham miller destroy a former ufc fighter who was like 6’8 and than giant silva getting destroyed in pride by knees on the ground
Probably in reality wouldn’t be a hung advantage but some people make it work well.
by Weedsuplement on Sep 22, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Wanna be MM_eh...
hasn’t talked to a real woman without giving them his parents credit card number first?
Lesnar isn't the most skilled fighter but until somebody beats him he is the #1 HW in the world. It's obviously not Fedor and sure as hell isn't Werdum!
An injured Anderson Silva managed to finish a cheating Sonnen who failed his drug test but GSP can't finish a natural WW who isn't a dinosaur and won't take a fight at an above weight class. Let's not kid ourselves about who the real P4P king is!
god you are a loser Oswald....
Can’t believe I wasted 5 minutes of my life reading your posts in this thread…every time there is a logical debate going on, you pop in for some idiotic comment. GO AWAY for the benefit of everyone.
......
in hockey
If I had an unstoppable snap shot
Like no goalie could stop it
I scored 100 goals all by snap shot
Would that be boring? Or just me using my god given talents to dominate a sport?
I'm gonna go home, watch DirecTV, drink bud light and ride my Harley Davidson!!
by Newfie3 on Sep 22, 2010 9:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
agreed...every single fight he's had has been exciting for me...
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
yup
There was a recent fanpost which made this point perfectly.
The next bone I have to pick is the first Kos fight. All kinds of people say kos was the last guy to take a round off GSP. I watched that fight this weekend to try and see what round it was he won. He definately did not win either rd off Georges
I'm gonna go home, watch DirecTV, drink bud light and ride my Harley Davidson!!
by Newfie3 on Sep 22, 2010 9:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Mac, you Canadians think a youtube clip of GSP shaving his chest is exciting. Your opinions on this matter don't count, because they are biased! lol
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Sep 22, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
lol...and Americans aren't biased??? bitch please
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Sep 22, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
and I don't mind admitting I'm biased...he's my fav fighter and the best WW in the world...why wouldn't I be
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Sep 22, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
no doubt, and I know that.
I also hate GSP and am always biased against him as well, but do admit he’s the best WW in the world, I just wish he would fight like he used to before he one the belt. He would destroy people. Now he just wants to conrol them and get the W.
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Sep 22, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree but there's a HUGE diff between fighting BJ, Fitch, Alves or Miller, Hughes, Serra, Karo, or Trigg...of course he finished those guys...they suck
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Sep 22, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Its the way that he fought them as well. Sherk as well, he got his ass handed to him
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Sep 22, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Try the veal, child. But GSP is like a national hero in Canada. I can't even think of any American that would be equivalent, perhaps Brett Favre? But not every American sports fan likes him....
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Sep 22, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
its honestly not like that in Canada...he def not a national hero and is well known amoungst MMA fans..that is all.
Its no different than the states. In fact if I had to guess, I’d say the most well known MMA stars down there would be Chuck, Tito, Hughes and Shammy….at least our guy is the best
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Sep 22, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Good Point but on that same token, would you say you would never call Fitch or Lentz boring?
by Man_Made_God on Sep 22, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Lentz is boring, Fitch is not.
The reason is that Lentz only uses his wrestling and he’s not even that good at it, so he just hughs his opponent the entire fight. Fitch on the other hand is a great wrestler and dominates his opponents (except GSP). He’s also good standing with his muythai and he always tries to finish fights. Get of Fitchs back, bitches.
"Do you want your granmother do die like a little bird in some hospitalroom? Her translucent skin so thin, you can see her last heartbeat work its way down her blue vein. Or do you want her to meat Chuck Norris?" Bill Hicks
It'd be both.
Those two aren’t mutually exclusive.
They should have scored the Brett Hull one-timer differently because it worked so well. It should have only been worth half a goal!
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
hahahahaha
Awesome
I'm gonna go home, watch DirecTV, drink bud light and ride my Harley Davidson!!
by Newfie3 on Sep 22, 2010 9:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
its the same for every sport
If a tennis player has an unreal forehand, and keeps using it to win, do u criticize?
If soccer player has unstoppable shot and keeps using it, do u rag on him?
Its the nature of the sport! Takedowns and ground control is a massive aspect of this game! Isn’t that the point that was made in UFC 1 by the gracies?? This isn’t a new concept!!
I'm gonna go home, watch DirecTV, drink bud light and ride my Harley Davidson!!
by Newfie3 on Sep 22, 2010 10:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You propose a false analogy.
1) Judges in tennis and mma are completely different.
2) If each move (backhand, forehand, etc) was judged AND the forehand was weighed heavier than a backhand, then the guy with the unreal forehand has an unfair advantage and, yes, I will criticize the game but not the player.
good points
I geuss I wasn’t looking at it from a judges point of view, but just as a dominant tool which is used to win fights/matches/games/etc
I'm gonna go home, watch DirecTV, drink bud light and ride my Harley Davidson!!
by Newfie3 on Sep 22, 2010 10:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wrestling isn’t weighed heavier.
If fighter A kicks he crap out of fighter B for the entire round and fighter B scores a last second take down, fighter A still gets the round.
Does there need to be some changes made to the whole “I took you down more times so I win” mentality? Sure. But that’s not the issue people are talking about.
Fitch takes guys down and controls them, pounds them and doesn’t give them any oppenings. That’s not the same thing as a guy winning a fight by taking a guy down constantly and not being able to do anything (i.e. they lie in guard for a stand up, or the other guy gets right back up).
There are 2 things being discussed and they are completely different. GSP’s fights would be no different if wrestling was scored differently, so it’s a moot point.
That being said, there are fighters who have gotten wins because of last second takedowns that did nothing more than see them lying in guard for 30 seconds. That’s a completely different aspect that should be discussed, but doesn’t pertain to the other aspects of wrestling.
In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!
I agree with most of what you say
I agree with most of what you say, but not the crux of what you say.
You cannot conclude that wrestling isn’t weighed heavier because fighter A gets the round if he “kicks the crap out of fighter B for the entire round and fighter B scores a last second take down.” I think many reasonable people agree that wrestling is weighed heavier just not as heavy as much as a full round of an ass beating. In my mind, it’s just a question of degree that is in dispute.
That aside, I agree that there are two discussions going on here. One concerns GSP, the other concerns wrestling in general. That is, the player or the game. I think you have to blame the game, not the player.
There are also just lay n prayers who exploit this fault in the game. They win not because they’re good mixed martial artists, but because they are great wrestlers. These are the “boring” fighters people often complain of. I don’t think GSP should be placed in the same category.
I Agree
I cant remember there ever being so much negativity towards ground fighting in MMA as there has been in the last few months. People should watch K1 (cliche I know).
"Big guys, small gloves...somebody's gonna fall..." (Gabriel Gonzaga)
ground fighting is not wrestling.
It’s the fact that wrestlers suck on the ground all they care about is control and holding position. You go watch curling instead.
newfie3 you’re out riding your bicycle here, an unreal forehand produces winners/finishes which is exactly what the fans wanna see.. takedowns do no damage and is not going to finish fights unless we have someone with the ability to slam ppl like Rampage used to do back in the day.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
this coming from Tito's biggest fan... Need I say more?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Sep 22, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Tito is awesome, i'd root for him even his fights sucked donkeys.
His intention is to elbow the shit out of somebody and he’s good at it, he’s the definition of a ground and pounder. Wrestling is the one discipline that won’t finish fights but win (with the current rules) so if you have a fighter that isn’t good at anything else but takedowns you get boring fights.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
how is he good at it and GSP is not?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Sep 22, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Roberto fascination with Tito and hatred of all other wrestlers
is some seriously confusing shit to me.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
no, its simple really. most wrestlers seem like weird and boring people.
Tito is hilarious.. Like i say, it’s not what you do it’s who you are.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
I am even more confused
your posts indicate that you are only about real fighting, no matchmaking, no hype, just good old fashion tournament style mma. Which is fine. But, your fascination with Tito based on the fact that he isn’t weird and boring surprises me Roberto. You are entitled to feel however the F you want to feel – but to me Tito is a horses ass who is very boring in the cage. I would watch Fitch all day before tuning into a Tito fight.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
yes you're right i am only about real fighting, no matchmaking, no hype.
that doesn’t mean i can’t still enjoy a personality like that. I’m bright enough to look past my appreciation for Tito and the hype surrounding him, i’m very critical of his performances and to be honest me and my fellow “Tito” friends are all tired of the special treatment he receives.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
I am less confused
just trying to understand Roberto. I am the same way actually. Not to pat myself on the back, but I am the most level-headed BJ Penn fanatic that I know.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
yes, but if he was able to take down guys at will like GSP we'd witness brutality..
Georges can improve his ground game, all i’m saying. People say he’s god but someone like Anderson Silva can finish fights from everywhere he doesn’t have to be on top.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
He didn’t finish Maia or Leites, and I would go as far as saying he didn’t finish Cote.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
or Chael....that's all of his last 4 MW title defenses if I'm not mistaken
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Sep 22, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
right, he played it safe. boring fights kinda like all of gsp's.
you need to demand more from a guy who spends 90% of his fights in a dominant position. he could be a better mma fighter.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
Ooooo....nice burn..lol
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Sep 22, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
demand it how?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Sep 22, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you think if TD’s were weighed less, GSP wouldn’t still have the exact same record as he has now??? You act as if he just sits on top of people looking at the clock and having a conversation with the guy.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
How do i act that way?
I never even mentioned GSP in my post. I’m a fan of GSP. I think he’s awesome. As I just posted in a response to Kenwoo, I don’t think he’s a lay n prayer by any means.
To answer your question, yes I do think his record would be the same.
In my defence though you were talking about changing judging due to wrestling in a GSP thread, so my assumption was not 100% unwarrented.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
All I'm saying is...
All I’m saying is that wrestlers have an unfair advantage simply because TDs are weighed heavily. I genuinely believe that an olympic gold medalist in wrestling can dominate the UFC—not because they’re great mixed martial artists, but because they can just hold you down.
How about an olympic silver medalist, say Matt Lindland. How’s he doing right now? He’s not horrible, but he’s not the champ either.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
He never chose to lay n pray.
If he had, he’d probably win.
plus...
the sport was still young when he was in his prime. had he just come on the scene now, his game would be completely different.
Quite the assumption there, not saying I don’t agree though. I tend to agree with guys like Nate who say that it’s cyclical. Eventually there is always somebody better to counter ‘the unbeatable technique’.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Implement Yellow Cards / point deductions
Wrestling is good if it brings you closer to finishing your opponent. Takedown to good GNP gets a thumbs up. Takedown to good submission attempts gets a thumbs up.. Takedown to hold and not do much of nothing gets a dumbs down, and a yellow card / point deduction.. something.. I’m all about grappling.. but work for the finish.. go for it! Don’t turn a fight into a snoozefest.
Good point
TDs shouldn’t really score points unless something is done with them.
It also seems like defending a takedown doesn’t count for anything score wise.
What I mean is if someone defended the TD to keep it standing but didn’t throw any/many punches would they win the round? That would be the opposite of LnP which is a winning tactic.
Of course even with reduced scoring for TDs, GSP dominates his fights easily.
"That wasn't just winning. I mean, that was just demolishment."
this seems like a strange thing to come out and say
I would much prefer it if he just said, I don’t care as long as I win, instead of claiming that his fights are exciting, it’s not really his place to decide that.
Never before, have I so clearly heard the sound of a face breaking...
by Spinning Fat Kick on Sep 22, 2010 9:38 AM EDT reply actions
I dont see how people can say GSP fights are boring.
He stays active 100% of the time, always looking to improve position when he’s on the ground, always unpredictable on the feet. If you dont like watching his fights then maybe you’re watching the wrong sport, because he utilises every aspect of MMA every time he gets in the Octagon.
"Big guys, small gloves...somebody's gonna fall..." (Gabriel Gonzaga)
I agree.
GSP mixes it all up real well. He’s not a lay n prayer by any means.
This dispute could easily be settled...
…just dont watch his fights if you think he’s boring. Maybe bang your head against a brick wall so you can forget the others as well.
"Big guys, small gloves...somebody's gonna fall..." (Gabriel Gonzaga)
Who said I thought he was boring?
Maybe you’ve been banging your head too many times against a brick wall?
this debate has been had a million times on here
it’s because of threads like this that i kind of gave up on commenting on here for a while. I’m glad to see you’re still rocking it though roberto.
Never before, have I so clearly heard the sound of a face breaking...
by Spinning Fat Kick on Sep 22, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
RE: GSP's wrestling matches
See Fitch’s, Alves’ faces post fight. Also ask BJ Penn where he was after R1. He wont be able to tell you.
"Big guys, small gloves...somebody's gonna fall..." (Gabriel Gonzaga)
blablabla.
If GSP had any bad intentions he would finish fights, if we had a real GnPer or submission artist every fight would be finished with the top control he has. Dan Hardy was his worst performance to date.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
Name a fighter who has been fighting top competition for the last couple of years who has finished every single person they’ve fought??? I think your expectations are too high.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Jose Aldo?
with the exception of faber, although a lot of ppl think that fight coulda been stopped due to the viscousness of the leg kicks
by Andrew Keller on Sep 22, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I can name plenty of fighters who finish fights from the positions GSP constantly finds himself in.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
but, who finishes the fighters that GSP gets in those positions?
I.E Alves, Hardy, Fitch? Hell who even gets those fighters IN those positions? (hardy excluded). He finished hughes 2x, BJ once, Serra once-and he DOMINATED serra on the ground. Something not many ppl can do. Just cause Fighter A gets in a dominant position and finishes Fighter B from that position, does not mean GSP should be able to finish fighter C from the same position Fighter A was in. Get my drift?
by Andrew Keller on Sep 22, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
so can I..but RoB...lets hear you name off plenty of fighters that could finish Fitch, BJ, or Alves?
You can’t. Because they are some of the hardest fighters to finish. Jeez, maybe Goulet should get the next title shot at GSP so he gets a finish and you guys lighten up
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Sep 22, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
If every fighter had the takedown ability of GSP it would be clear that other fighters are better finishers. clear to see.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
maybe but your missing the point
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Sep 22, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
And you can name ZERO fighters who finish the guys that GSP fought
Okay, Thiago KO’d Koscheck, but even a KO machine like Thiago Alves couldn’t finish Koscheck. December will be a different story.
Aldo
Has been to 4 decisions and has a loss.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
You said over the last couple years though. Thats why i answered your question.
you did not say “over their entire carreer”
by Andrew Keller on Sep 22, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Aldo fought unknown fighters and finished them...He fought a top five in Faber and went to a dec.
How is that diff from GSP?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Sep 22, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
but you're only focusing on one half of the equation
Knocking someone out depends on mostly two things: 1) how hard you hit and 2)the strength of his chin.
You’re saying that all that matters is the first part. You’re ignoring the fact that different people have different chins. And, if you’re a top contender, chances are you didn’t become great by having a weak chin.
you do not become a good fighter by having a strong chin. any fighter lacking skill will get knocked the FUCK out, that’s how it works, you get hit clean you go out. Having a strong chin is not a skill.
knocking someone out depends on 2 things 1) how good your hands are 2) how clean you hit.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic !
No need to be combative.
I never said having a strong chin was a skill??? calm down.
i think your post illuminates your bad thinking on this topic. in your list, you ignore the person on the receiving end of the punch. You can’t ignore that.
Example:
Give me a 140 lbs 18 year old with “good hands” and let him have a “clean hit” against a 25 year old heavy weight. Doubtful the heavyweight gets knocked down.
To KO
Decent power. Not even in the hands. But good hip rotation, steady base and momentum.
Accurate strikes. Hitting the temple flush, or that magic “button” on the chin.
The chin thing is a myth really. Every person is unique, every person has unique nerves, nerve endings and their bodies all have different reaction to them being triggered.
by EvolutionMMA on Sep 22, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Who said I thought he was boring?
Maybe you’ve been banging your head too many times against a brick wall?
I wasn't refering to you
I was refering to others in the thread who were saying the Penn and Fitch fights sucked. I must’ve posted it as a reply by accident, you had agreed with my earlier post.
"Big guys, small gloves...somebody's gonna fall..." (Gabriel Gonzaga)
Don't hate the playa', hate the game.
My point is summed up by this ghetto proverb:
“Don’t hate the playa’, hate the game.”
GSP is just playing by the rules and has the power to be really, really boring if he wanted to be. He’s actually pretty damn exciting considering that nobody equals his wrestling skills in his weight class.
Here are the facts...
BJ – other than quitting on the stool against GSP, BJ has been finished once in the UFC by Hughes (the ww champ at the time)
Fitch – has never been finished in the UFC and has only 1 loss…to GSP
Alves – has been finished twice in the UFC. Once by Fitch, and once by Fisher when he was 18
Hardy – has never been finished in the UFC
These guys are apparently no slouches. GSP IS the best WW in the world but these 4 opponents didn’t get there by accident. GSP’s opponents have been THE BEST in the world as well. This makes his fights exciting.
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Agreed Mac. Once you move up in ranks the competition gets harder. Not everyone is going to be finished and to think so sets yourself up for disappointment. Not eveyone is going to gas out in a slugfest in under a round (see Zombie and Garcia) and make you sit through another two boring…I mean exciting rounds. If that’s what you’re looking for then don’t want GSP. He comes in highly trained, and IN SHAPE. There should be way more people pissed about wasting money on fighters who gas as opposed to those who don’t finish the cream of the crop. Gassing is something that can be rectified, and I actually think that it’s disrespectful to the fans and the sport when dudes won’t hit a treadmill.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
nobody in the WW or even the UFC has faced tougher comp than GSP over his last 4 fights...
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Sep 22, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmm. I wouldnt go that far. Hardy wasnt ranked too highly. I would say in the UFC Machida has. Thiago Silva. Rashad. Shogun x2. And in the WW division you can Thiago Alves has had a tough four fights. Fitch, GSP, Kos and Matt Hughes.
But you are right GSP has faced some tough guys.
by EvolutionMMA on Sep 22, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting perspective
To further your point, if we want to see GSP finish, we can easily match him against a guy with less than five fights. Or we can pair him up with someone that has a notoriously weak chin. Or match him against amateurs, women, or that one guy with no legs…
lol...it would be tough to keep the fight standing against Kyle Maynard
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Sep 22, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
For real mac? His last fight against hardy was exciting?
by d*locc on Sep 22, 2010 12:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
to me it was...
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Sep 22, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
GREASER GREASER GREASER GREASER
HELLO MR.PLAY IT SAFE..IM A BIG FAN…HOPE YOU COULD APPLY MORE VASELINE FOR UPCOMING FIGHTS…G-greaser.S-steroids.P-playing it safe
You just completely changed my mind about GSP
Stupid me. What was I thinking all these years. So stupid. The G is for greaser, the S is for steroids, and the P is for play it safe. Its so clear right now
Now if only Fitch would admit his fights were boring.
Riding the Brock Train..
Jon Fitch and Gray Maynard can suck it. If I want a blanket I'll buy it in the store, not on PPV.
Chael Sonnen = Pillow hands
I like Fitch
he sticks to great gameplans and doesnt get swayed to stand and bang, or take unnecessary risks even tho he catches slack for it. Dont be fooled, if more guys could be doing this they would be.
-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)
by *Californication* on Sep 22, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't like Fitch but Cali couldn't be more right
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Sep 22, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn't say he sucked. I said he's boring.
His last 7 wins have all been decisions. He doesn’t try to win fights. he doesn’t transition. He just literally dry humps people.
Riding the Brock Train..
Jon Fitch and Gray Maynard can suck it. If I want a blanket I'll buy it in the store, not on PPV.
Chael Sonnen = Pillow hands
I am not going to bother explaining why you failed, bu you definitely did.
“He doesn’t try to win fights”
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
i think hes boring to but only his last two fights did he hump. cause bj quit an serra
just got owned and before that hughes tapped.
used to be exciting.
It’s obvious since Serra’s upset and joining Jackson’s camp, all GSP does is takedown and score points to win a decision. GSP will only engage in standup after he tires his opponent with endless takedowns. he’s still a dominant champion but has been too dependent on his wrestling lately and therefore become less exciting to watch. just an old fan who misses his headkick to Hughes.
In the 7 fights since the Serra TKO GSP has finished Hughes (Armbar), Serra (strikes), and Penn (crying due to brain trauma). Hughes has been stopped a total of 7 times in 52 fights (2 by GSP), Serra has been stopped twice (once by GSP and once by a spinning back fist to Mr. International in 2001) and Penn has been stopped a grand total of 2 times (Once to GSP and once to Hughes). During those 7 fights he also kicked the snot out of Fitch (could have been stopped), Alves and Hardy, while playing it safe with Kos for a title shot. So I’m not sure how you say since that loss he has been only looking to score points to win a decision. I think a lot of people get brainwashed reading these sites.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Did anyone see the GSP thing about having sex is great for an athlete and that doesnt just mean with a partner but with yourself too.
LOL
Why? He is giving everyone permission to play with themselves. Basically he is saying, I am an elite fighter with a great physique. And I have sex with myself. So you shoudl too.
by EvolutionMMA on Sep 22, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I took his statement a little differently
For some reason I remember him saying “sex is great for an athlete, not with girls though”.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
I thought not soley with girls but with yourself as well
by EvolutionMMA on Sep 22, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I have selective hearing
pretty sure that was during the primetime for GSP Penn I. I thought. Maybe for 2.
We fight, get beat, rise and fight again.
GSP doing some revisionist history. Every fight he’s ever had in the UFC was boring, they’ve just been getting even more boring lately.
Clearly you just don’t like the guy if you think every fight he’s had in the UFC has been boring….that or you’ve only been watching for a year or so.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
mmeh
you must be canadian to be this badly brainwashed. i said i was a fan but not brainwashed like you because i agree his fights have been boring since the serra loss, plays it safe by mainly depending on takedowns. just take a breath and swallow the truth, EH.
Play it safe=dominating.
They won’t be happy until he gets knocked out again. I’ve quit coming to threads with GSP involved.
jay.
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