UFC Quick Quote: Will Cain Velasquez be able to handle 'someone as big and powerful' as Brock Lesnar?
by Jesse Holland on Sep 2, 2010 9:31 AM EDT
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"What Brock needs more than anything are good sparring partners that can kickbox and grapple, so he's gotta get some guys in his camp that can actually throw down with good striking, good takedowns, good takedown defense. I'm sure the goal for that camp will be to bring some good strikers in. [Velasquez] is real tough, there's a big size difference between Brock and him though, the power factor. He's a good qwrestler so he can actually stop stuff, get out of stuff, but I don't know if he's used to going with someone as big and powerful as Brock."
Lesnar coach Eric Paulson tells Marcos Villegas that Cain Velasquez will present a significant challenge when he goes head-to-head with the division champion at UFC 121 on Oct. 23 in Anaheim. The big story surrounding the heavyweight championship bout is the size difference between champion and challenger, but the Lesnar camp is confident that "Brown Pride" will succumb to the power of the former WWE star. Anyone disagree?
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Brock's size is a huge advantage, but...
if Cain can survive Brock’s onslaught, then he could possibly eek out a decision by tiring Brock and winning rounds 3,4 and 5. However, I see Brock pacing himself to make sure that doesn’t happen. I think Brock may fight safe, the way he did Herring, to make sure he wins this fight.
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I'm not sure there will be much of an onslaught...
Brock looked like a fish out of water vs Carwin, he couldn’t handle a guy with solid striking and a good wrestling base. If Carwin actually came in shape there is now way Lesnar made it out of the second. Cain is smaller yes, but at the same time, he won’t gas and is a lot tougher that Carwin IMHO.
And doesn't have near Carwin's strength
He will not overwhelm Brock, like Carwin did…and if all those shots from Carwin do not put Brock out, Cain has nothing that will. Only way Cain wins is by decision.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Carwin gassed though. I doubt Cain will
Carwin gassing saved brocks bacon.
by Andrew Keller on Sep 2, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but cain cant put a beating on Brock like Carwin did.
Dont let Cain KOing an elderly, punch drunk Big Nog fool you guys into thinking he can stop lesnar.
I agree. To beat the beast Cain must wear him down with a volume of punches.
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-Stephen King
Brock has better cardio than anyone at HW.
Cain has no shot here.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
I think both guys have great cardio. Its a non-issue, IMO. The keys here are speed vs. strength.
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-Stephen King
why are you convinced that Cain is faster? because he is smaller?
I am not convinced that Cain has ANY adavantage in purely physical attributes. He is DEFINITELY a better striker, but that is all I can give him at this point.
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Side to side movement, I noticed Cain is faster.
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-Stephen King
Is that a product of better footwork because he understands striking better?
I don’t believe that they have any common opponents, so it is comparing apples to oranges at this point.
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I don't think Brock has the same speed laterally because he does not seem to practice boxing in the traditional sense which incorporates it. You don't need common opponents to spot this. I think it is more practice than understanding.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I agree on the lateral speed, I guess. It definitely is a practicable trait.
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Lol at Brock's onslaught or anything for that matter.
Battered women’s shelters and churches will be offering brock sanctuary after cain is done with him. He will shut down all of brock’s wrestling, striking and burn his lungs out by the end of the 2nd rd. All I say to Brock supporters is please put money on him at your favorite gambling site…..
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 2, 2010 10:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL, I used to have a great respect for you, NNR
I’m not so sure now. Because you are either drunk, delusional or trolling.
HAHA
You wanna make some Mania bets on this fight?
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
I already beat Brock!
Win or lose, I’m happy! I would actually rather lose my money. And I see Cain having better cardio. Even if their cardio is the same, cain has the advantage in the later rounds bc Brock has more muscle to feed.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
How did that work out for HH though?
Brock could have went another 3 rounds after that fight.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
I'm, retarded, you know this Jay! LOL
Jay, thanks for the kind words about the addiction thing the other day. Been meaning to catch up with you on that!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
No problem man
From what I’ve seen and read of you, I like you. You’ve always been nice to everyone.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Ditto young chap, ditto!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
We can do a sig bet if you like Jay....
though i thought we had one already? I have a few people lined up for sig bets…..basically i’ll be rotating in people’s sigs daily or weekly depending on what people say…..that’s if i lose which i won’t…..
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 2, 2010 11:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Also i am shocked that you say brock has better cardio than
anyone……was this the same brock who was tryingto catch his breath after a 220 47 yr old man clinched him into the fence for a round? Come on jay……(and herring doesn’t count baby…..it’s much easier to look fresh after 3rds of riding on top at a slow pace.)
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 2, 2010 11:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL BET!!!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
Me and you?
I’d like that.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
No, I wouldn't bet on this fight. I put money on Brock last month.
No one beats him! Hate him, but he is just to big and good of a wrestler!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
I like it when a fan is able to put their feelings aside and use their heads.
Good job, Bow.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
LOL
My dad always told me to bet with my brain and not my heart. OH I can’t wait for Football to start!!!! One week from today! It’s about fn time! HATE BASEBALL!!!!!!!!!!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
I haven't watched another sport in probably 10 years.
All other sports seem so trivial now. I’d rather take the three hours it takes to watch a football game and just watch replays of fights I’ve missed. Youtube has almost everything you need.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
I can still watch hockey, but footbal is too slow for me these days....damn ADD.
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That's the popular opinion.
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-Stephen King
frankie showed strength isnt everything and speeds does play a huge rol
However lesnar wants to put cain on his back right from the start, i wonder if cain can get up and if he is dangerous from his back
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by robinhorobson on Sep 2, 2010 10:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep, plus Brock had ring rust vs. Carwin
Brock is still improving in every fight. He should stomp Cain.
by Conan the Barbarian on Sep 2, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Cain could probably match the gas tank
But I don’t think he wins this. Unless he switches to Wolfslair and Biz shows him how to hit and run. Cain won’t have the power to one punch KO Lesnar
Went to my first jits class. Don't think I was ever so happy with getting my ass handed to me
The LAST thing anyone should do is switch TO wolfslair
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
I was only messing
But that’s the only way I see him winning and I think Cain has too much pride (no pun intended) to do that.
He’ll want to make a statement by probably putting pressure on Brock. That’s where he’ll get caught and worn on by a 300+ pound Brock
Went to my first jits class. Don't think I was ever so happy with getting my ass handed to me
LOL Worst camp around, other than any in Hawaii!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
There are always limits to your cardio when you are carrying around that much wait...
Brock will not out work Cain and won’t out pace him. His only chance is to overpower him early, and I think he has a very good chance at doing that.
by BoomGoesTheDynamite! on Sep 2, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Brock won't outwork him? He may not be as fast as Cain(debatable) but that's all Cain has.
Hand speed. Brock is faster on his feet.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Rephrase please. Who has faster hand speed?
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Cain has faster hands.
Brock has faster feet.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
IMO Cain is faster at both, but Brock kills him in the power department!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
I think Brock would win a race. That's what I mean about foot speed.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
He did. Cain has better footwork(everyone does) but Brock is faster IMO.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
I got ya. Yea he probably is faster in that sense!
He is an amazing athlete! Esp for his size!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
Yes, he is a great athlete. No doubt. He also has a bad haircut. Its 2010, you drooling simian...
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-Stephen King
The flat top has GOT to go. I agree there.
And that chest tattoo….What was he thinking?
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
This guy that live near me has a mullet! WTF?
And it’s grey . LOL
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
lives* I got corrected with my grammar the other day. So annoying!
I have decent grammar, but my spelling sux!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
Yes.
Regardless of how he, his fans, or fans of the sport who tolerate the tattoo, it does not leave the best impression on those unfamiliar with our sport to have a champ with ‘brown pride’ tattoed on his chest.
by PetrozellisJab on Sep 2, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Its a stupid tattoo but to read anything else into it is not logical at this point in time. When he commits a crime or uses hate speech then we can pass judgement. Land of the free and home of the brave and all that.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Kdog-I'd rather have a swastika with "white pride" above it tattooed on my chest than Brock's phallus tat. And I'm half black.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
If Fedor had it you would love it Dice.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
If Fedor had it you would love it Dice.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
C'mon Dice if Fedor had that Tattoo
You would too LOL j/k.
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Attakdog and Ulf know their shit
Cain is too small. Even if he was the same size as Brock, Brock would outwrestle him.
This is gonna be a blood bath and Cain is doing the bleeding.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
I don't see how Brock beats Cain....
You don’t have to hit hard when your fighting a guy that doesn’t like to get hit in the face…Cain beats Brock easily in this one…I hate to say it but I like watching Brock fight its always exciting and I actually root for him but I think he has fought all the right people at the right time in their careers… JDS, Cain, Fedor, heck ever Werdum all tear him up!!!
Cain beats Brock easily?
Did you see Kongo drop Cain every time he touched him? If anyone doesn’t like getting hit, it’s him. Bets on this one, Robert?
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
I bring this up as often as possible.
by PetrozellisJab on Sep 2, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
A lot of people forget that part of the fight
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
If kongo wasn't so fucking gormless he could have won that fight
He had him on queer street and instead of pushing him away to make distance to unleash, decides to enter the clinch game instead?
Cain was on queer street AT LEAST twice in that fight. The he shot.
I don’t see Cain taking Brock down within the first 30 seconds of the fight, let alone when he is desperate.
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*then not the
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Toney? Does that count?
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Didn’t Kongo rock him in every round? What do you think would happen to Cain if he fought JDS or Carwin and that happened?
He was lucky coz when he was rocked he could just shoot for a leg
and get the td every time as kongo has zero td defence. He wouldn’t be able to just grab a leg against Carwin who’s a decent wrestler and probs not JDS either, they’ll both likely fend him off and carry on landing bombs.
You guys are right about Kongo rocking him, but it's apples to oranges, right? I mean for all of Kongo's deficiencies his striking is still light years ahead of Brocks.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Lmfao!!! Ok jay =D so yur saying Kongo & brick are @ the same level in striking?
Brock won’t even touch Cain on the feet! He’s fucked when Cain shuts down his takedowns. & I like Brock.
by d*locc on Sep 2, 2010 11:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes and I also analyze fights from a bio-mechanical perspective
Kongo will never be champion or even top 5 but in terms of pure striking, those shots were as clean and crisp as they come, you couldn’t land better strikes on someone’s chin and yet Cain didn’t get knocked out, he won the fight!! Brock is fun to watch but he is about to face a real solid fighter and will get exposed, this fight is not even close and if Brock wins great, i’m a fan already,
there is a difference between liking a fighter and knowing the truth, I like Brock but I know he doesn’t have the skills to beat the best.
For someone who claims to be a "fan" of lesnar, you're coming out with some crazy shit!
“this fight is not even close " – You’re actually right there, lesnar wins 9 out of 10 times.
“he is about to face a real solid fighter and will get exposed” – So everyone else he’s fought Herring, Mir, Randy, Carwin are just tomato cans??? You really rate brown pride far too highly!
Attack I hear what ur saying but have you ever seen a champ...
actually run away from being hit, not turn and wave but actually run away from punches? maybe your right about Cain but im just shocked Brock lasted this long, I was on my feet cheering for Brock the whole time, in the carwin fight but that doesn’t mean I have faith in his skills to beat Cain, JDS, Fedor and a couple of others, maybe im wrong, who knows, i just don’t like his stand-up and when he was on his back he got tattooed for 4 minutes!!! Brock on his back or standup vs Cain is death!!
He did the right thing against a monster like Carwin
What did you want him to do stand there and get lamped??? You seem to forget nobody had even been out of the first round with Carwin, let alone beat him! That shows what a tough SOB Brock actually is. The guys you listed, (especially not Cain ) have nowhere near the power of Carwin so wouldn’t have Lesnar back peddling like that. Herring Randy and Mir all got dropped by lesnar, his standup aint great technically, but the guy does have power and can easily hang with cain on his feet!
This is more about Carwin getting exhausted after 5 minutes of throwing punches...
then it is about Brock winning…not taking away anything from him, I like him but if Brock wins I will rename myself Brocksbitch for one month, has that?
You don't have to rename yourself. Just put it in your signature.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
I BOUGHT $500 TIX TO THIS MUTHAFUKKAHH
CAIN BETTER WIN
It will be amazing to see brock crumble 20 yards in front of me
Not likely tho
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double KO please
I’m not a fan of either
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by salamagogo on Sep 2, 2010 9:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
^^THIS^^
Never tell your problems to anyone...20% don't care and the other 80% are glad you have them.
by Jamie The Peach Hunter on Sep 2, 2010 9:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i think team qwest coined the word
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by salamagogo on Sep 2, 2010 9:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Seriously though
I think people forget that Brock has done really well at pacing himself and putting himself in good positions.
like turtling up and getting pounded on
For several minutes of the first round of his last fight? That was awesome
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by salamagogo on Sep 2, 2010 9:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
True but if Carwin couldn't put him away
I really really doubt Cain can
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by O damn he got caught on Sep 2, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
No like surviving and onslaught and not gassing himself and just doing enough to not escape the round and letting Shance Gas himself
Then putting himself in a good position to finish the fight. Weird how in the end it is exactly what I talked about.
by Edgecrusher71 on Sep 2, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
im just messin around
My hate for brock is to profound to let a chance at pointing out his weaknesses pass by
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by salamagogo on Sep 2, 2010 10:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
salamagogo
If you want to see someone turtle up and hope to survive until their opponent gasses….watch the Silva/Sonnen fight. That was hilarious.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
thats what chael does tho
Brock is a love or hate type of guy..I personally despise him….on a side note, I wanna know wtf silvas face is made of…I know chael doesn’t hit hard, but damn…not a damn mark on andys face!
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by salamagogo on Sep 2, 2010 10:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not as funny as watching Chael literally choke on the big stage yet again
And I really hope that Kos gives GSP a good fight, it’s about time that Georges got pushed and it’s been an easy ride for his fans. You’ve had your fun at the expense of Andy, Fedor abs BJ, now it’s payback time. War Kos.
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by David W-S on Sep 2, 2010 10:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hey Brother
I’ve had to deal with Cote losing to that pussy Belcher. GSP getting knocked out by that midget Serra, and all the bullshit that has followed since. It’s about time YOU had to deal with it. This has been a pretty great couple of months for me though. Andy getting his ass handed to him, Fedor finally losing and BJ getting beaten twice(by a midget). MMA life is grand right now..
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
LMAO. Good stuff, Jay.
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-Stephen King
I can't complain much tbh as my man is still the champ, Bones is on the rise and Junior, Cain and Brock are the top 3 HWs in the world
Plus Hathaways on the way up and Aldo is still the p4p scariest baddest man on the planet. Team Gracie are all on winning streaks as well and Fedor and BJ both lost. Now that Newcastle are back in the Premier League where we belong and Warrington won the cup 2 years in a row I’m damn happy with all sports right now (aside from Englands awful World Cup). All I need is a GSP loss and life is perfect.
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by David W-S on Sep 2, 2010 11:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL
I guess life will always continue to be ALMOST perfect for you than.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Sweet.
Cain by tapout to strikes. Ultimate way to bitch out in a fight. i hope brock and page fo like that
I should never have doubted the wisdom of David W-S or the talent of Junior Dos Santos…and screw Dana White
LATE TAKEDOWN FTW
by Synyster_08 on Sep 2, 2010 9:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lesnar by hammerfist barrage
Yes Lesnar needs to improve his striking and im sure he will but his wrestling is better than Cains, he’s stronger, and not to mention he is faster. Brock will pace himself in the first and test the waters standing up and if he doesn’t like it then he will take him down whenever he wants. 2nd rd tko for Brock after some huge gnp. Cain doesn’t come close to the power that Carwin had so he wont ko him and wont be able to make it to a decision.
If the Brockness Monster can keep Cain on his back then...
He’ll easily win with GnP. If Cain is able to stuff the takedowns, then I think Brock get’s laid out the same way BigNog did. One thing no seems to be talking about in this fight though is how long it’s been since Cain’s last fight. Wonder if he’ll have any ring rust?
No. Hold on to your dreams. The Beast must die!
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
But not at Brown Prides hands ;-)
The only way lesnar loses that belt is if you put a damn Polar bear in there with him.
Brock showed that he can be beaten.. not once but twice…If carwin was smart he woulda went for a submission when he was hurt…
All he knows is to hit people hard and keep on hitting
Dont think he has a plan B. he didn’t know what to do, he hit lesnar with everything in his arsenal and couldn’t put him away.
From his back? Did you watch the fight?
He couldn’t even stand.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
No, I meant he shoulda tried to submit Brock in the 1st when he was rocked..instead of pummeling him for no reason..you aren’t gonna knock that big dummy out
Oh. I thought you meant he should have subbed him in the second instead of getting subbed himself.
I don’t think Carwin has a good submission game. He’s just a puncher with good wrestling. But you’re right, he shouldn’t have gassed himself, he should have picked his shots better.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
I knew when Brock smiled at the beginning of the second that he wasn't going to lose no matter what.
I couldn’t tell if Carwin was done or not, but I knew it wasn’t going to matter.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
That smile was fairly epic.
Bloody cut and all, there’s Brock with a “Care to try that again?” cocky as all hell, toothy grin spread across his face.
Anyone who’s ever read a book with a guy described as a scary barbarian type, I think Brock now gets pasted into each of those scenes. Dude would be (as he himself attests) perfectly at home swinging a club in the days of the caveman, or beating the hell out of people on a medieval battlefield somewhere in ancient Europe.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
And I personally think he's a lot smarter than people
give him credit for. I’m not saying he’ll get accepted to MENSA or anything, but he’s smarter than the average fighter.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
I'll give him credit for being a gifted athlete and an amazing wrestler, but smart he is not!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
I called it when his punches slowed in the first round
I’m amazed that a guy who gassed himself out after 3 minutes gets so much credit. Cain and Junior may not be as big as the roid raging engineer but they are both a lot more well rounded and are much better athletes. Cains speed, striking, wrestling and cardio makes him a very real threat to Brock and I look forward to watching him prove the doubters wrong yet again.
"Stay classy San Diego"
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by David W-S on Sep 2, 2010 10:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He gets no credit from me(after the juice story came out).
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
too much muscle on his frame...
same thing happened to Lashley.
Carwin (and Mir before him) believe that they need to match size with Brock…the problem is that they don’t have the frame to effectively carry 275 or more pounds. For as hard as Carwin hits, he would do well to only work cardio (versus strength training) for his next few fights and come in at a whopping 255-260 like he did when he debuted for UFC. Then maybe he could last more than one round.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Brock showed that he can be beaten.. not once but twice…If carwin was smart he woulda went for a submission when he was hurt…
Carwin didn’t want to be in a ground grapple with Brock in kind of way, Brock may have took some strikes but he was fully capable of defending including the sub.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
bob isn't saying he could have gotten the sub
Just that it is a better plan than punching yourself silly. He’s right, even if the sub was never going to happen in a million years.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
I think Carwin should have stood it up instead of trying to punch through Lesnar's arms. It was pretty clear Carwin was getting the best of it on the feet, why not let him up and try to hurt him worse from there instead of punching yourself out?
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Agree there Dice, unless Carwin was getting tired and didn't think he would have enough energy to stuff the takedowns?
If there is a Carwin & Brock two that will be the battle can Carwin keep it standing or can Brock get him down.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I think that fight will happen again and it will be epic!
I see Carwin doing what you said just so he doesn’t tire out. A fresh Carwin keeps the fight standing!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
This is going to be a awsome fight
I still feel Carwin is the second best behind Brock, but Cain is a close third and I can’t wait for this fight. Cain has the wrestling and cardio to give Brock some problems but were I feel many fans are wrong is how good is Cains striking? Yeah he looked good against NOG but other than that fight Cains striking is just OK and he doesn’t have the power of Carwin. If we judge Cain by every fight except the NOG fight his striking is ok but not a big threat. Kinfd of like if we just judged Brock by just the Couture fight his striking would be thought of as good as Cains by many too. This fight is going to be won by who can gain top control and do the most damage and my money is Brock.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I don't think he'll make it that far
All Brock has to do is land a couple clean shots, that’ll suck the cardio right out of him.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 2, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Brock will never be able to hurt Cain standing up. He will definately have to GnP him - which is highly likely.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Mir is a moron who thinks he has a granite chin - see the Carwin fight. Herring - I will give you. Randy was in a clinch with Brock. Do you really think Cain's head movement and footwork will allow for that? I don't see it. GnP, mate.
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-Stephen King
He dropped Randy at range, not from clinch.
by PetrozellisJab on Sep 2, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Range of about 2 feet after the release from the clinch. I am pretty sure.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Dog, speaking truths.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
No one is disputing that
I think we were referring to Randy and Cain’s movement.
by PetrozellisJab on Sep 2, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I am at work. Somebody get a gif for this!
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
looks like at range to me
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Can't see it - work blocks. And you will forgive me if I don't take a Brock fan's word for it. :)
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
other than BJ and Spider, when have I been impartial??!!! ;)
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Ha! You have them and I have Kimbo and Brock.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
It's the punch behind the ear that drops Randy
Proves that Brock has the power to KO people but we’ve seen from his recent fights that his technique is sorely lacking.
Any Pain Train members fancy a sig bet on this one? I’m 100% confident that Cain will derail the Brockness Express. Then it’s Cain vs JDS in 2011.
"Stay classy San Diego"
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by David W-S on Sep 2, 2010 11:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Cain’s punching volume will obviously be a lot higher than Brock’s. But I’m not sold on his chin at all and I think Brock does have the power to put him out. But Brock’s most likely path to victory will be Gnp.
by PetrozellisJab on Sep 2, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought you weren't coming back here if toney lost...ish...douche
Anyway Unfortunately I think Lesnar will win this fight. I think that the size and power difference will be too much for Cain to overcome. If Carwin couldn’t finish him with strikes then Cain won’t be able to either. I think that JDS has the best chance at beating Lesnar because of the bombs he can throw, but I think that Cain would outwrestle JDS and beat him if they fought. Thats just how MMA is sometimes, some guys just don’t match up
JDS couldn't put away Redneck Adonis Roy Nelson
who was more static than a caravan and doing a great impression of a human punch bag. Lesnar aint gonna stand there eating bombs all night.
Yep, either way this fight goes
I don’t see JDS beating Cain or Brock.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 2, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I think JDS size gives him a better shot vs. Brock. Plus the X factor in JDS' GG could be an unpleasant surprise.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
You mean when Mir won the 1st fight by a kneebar?
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I was going to say 50% of the time
But I thought you were smarter than that. That Brock isn’t this Brock.
by PetrozellisJab on Sep 2, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
OJ's just trolling now....
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
LOL
OJR trolling. Come on now. I’m just glad HellaHectic isn’t awake to see this. Probably sleeping off a ruffie and Smirnoff Ice hangover.
by PetrozellisJab on Sep 2, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
No, I am just not blinded by the Brock love. I give him his due even though I hate him.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I've got a couple buddies of mine who are like that.
I like the guy though.
by PetrozellisJab on Sep 2, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I honestly believe Brock is beatable via a sub. Will Cain do it? No way unless its a RNC. JDS on the other hand...who knows?
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Are Cain's arms even long enough to get around Brock's neck? I don't think so...;)
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
He does have a bit of T-Rex arms going on.
by PetrozellisJab on Sep 2, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Nope just a heavyweight Mexican
::grabs Ice Flak vest, riot shield, non lethal shotgun::
btw this is a joke you sensitive little girls.
by PetrozellisJab on Sep 2, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Cain looks like a LHW. He must have heavy bones because its not like he is super buff or bulky .
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
There was a picture of him standing next to LHW
Ryan Bader, and I didn’t wait around to see if it was actually real (it kinda looked like a real poolside shot), but if it was then Cain looked at absolute most the same size as Bader, and at worst he’s actually smaller than him.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
I agree.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Sep 2, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea some people are just built differently.
His bone probably do weigh more and also has denser muscle, IMO.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
He's definitely got the
low forehead thing going on, usually associated with denser bones, I guess.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
Like a smurf RNC'ing Godzilla?
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
his head is made out of concrete and protected by a layer of blubber
I can’t believe roy hung in there but he still got destroyed
If cain can outwrestle jds then so can brock. If Cain doesnt beat brock then Brock will be champ for a while
Didn't show it against Nelson
All very well knocking over tomato cans, Lesnar’s gonna be testing his TD defence all night and aint gonna allow him to tee off.
Werdum, GG, Cro Cop and Yvel may not be the best in the world, but far cries from tomato cans my friend.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
True, but with the exception of Werdum (maybe), they aint at the top of the tree
CC and Yvel are miles past their best and Taylor made for jds, whereas GG is a gatekeeper at best.
They're far from tomato cans.
In fact, he’s got the best fight record of any HW outside of Brock at this point. BUT, Cigano hasn’t faced a real wrestler yet. This just looks like a custom tailor job to get him flattened when he faces his first bona fide monster wrestler.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
I don't know why people still cite JDS and say his power will put Brock away.
JDS doesn’t hit any harder than Brock and his TDD won’t be good enough to keep it on the feet. Brock would pound him out with no problem.
by PetrozellisJab on Sep 2, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I meant to say JDS doesn't hit any harder than Carwin but it's interchangeable.
by PetrozellisJab on Sep 2, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
That will be the question for JDS can he keep it standing?
I doubt it, and honestly I would have my money on both Cain and Carwin over JDS as well.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I'm with you.
I think in the UFC they are ranked
Lesnar, Carwin, Cain, JDS
by PetrozellisJab on Sep 2, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Nope. Its Brock, JDS, Cain, Carwin.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
cain
Cain has power. Speed n technique also make power it doesn’t have to be just size.
by p rock on Sep 2, 2010 10:40 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
He doesn't have power
Dont be fooled by the Nog KO. Nogs chin has gone, so are his knees.
See Rothwell and Kongo fights to truelly gauge Cains “power” or lack of it!
Rothwell was getting the beating of his life when many people on this website were saying rothwell was going to destroy him that he was too big and too good.
by p rock on Sep 2, 2010 10:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He didn't exactly KO him in one did he????
Cain’s a cumulative damage puncher, not a heavy hitter.
Care to comment on the hundreds of punches he landed on kongo who was nowhere near being stopped???
When has Brock KOd anyone with one punch. Randy got hurt by a grazing punch to the temple. And he cant take a punch anymore we all saw that in the noguera fight.
So your defense is that he can't KO someone with a straight shot, but his glancing blows put legends on queer street? Really??
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
He broke HH's orbital with one right cross
I’d say that is FAR more impressive than a flash KO(which you guys are drooling over all the time)
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
you forgot the part about Herring rolling over BACKWARDS from that blow!!!
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
if brock woulda rotated his hips and snapped that punch, herring woulda been out
instead it looked like he got shoved backwards instead of punched.
by Andrew Keller on Sep 2, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the difference comes down to technique
snapping punches give the jolt that cause KO’s (chucks overhand right) whereas brocks punches are like slow moving steam engines. powerful as hell, but more of a crushing, pushing blow than a snap. I dunno maybe im way off, and maybe this doenst make any sense. its still early for this guy.
by Andrew Keller on Sep 2, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
That is spot on, AK. Boxing 101.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
thanks OJ
I knew what i was saying but i didnt know if i’d be able to get my point across. Ive been hit by both snapping, quick punches and slow powerful punches. both suck lol.
by Andrew Keller on Sep 2, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Me too, when I was boxing. Got my ass handed to me alot. The jabs are the snaps and the crosses are the power punches.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Great example is someone like Kimbo.
Dude has plenty of power, but he doesn’t snap punches hard enough at the point of impact to create KO’s. Only broken bones, at best.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
I just hope Brock learns how to defend a few punches.
Instead of falling against the cage and covering up like a 4 year old getting beat by a step parent. He came back because Carwin had NO cardio, Carwin just gave it to him in the second.
yeah but it doesn't really matter, there's no HW in the world capable of unleashing like Carwin does
If lesnar survived carwins finest onslaught, he’ll have no problems with anything cain has to offer.
i believe Mrm
Activia; now with bullshitifus ridicularus
by salamagogo on Sep 2, 2010 11:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i believe Mr. Rosenthal had just as much to do with lesnar winning as did carwin gassing
But alas, tis just an opinion…if brock wants to nom nom nom on joshes ballbag before a fight, that’s his business..
Activia; now with bullshitifus ridicularus
by salamagogo on Sep 2, 2010 11:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
brock hate consumes....
Activia; now with bullshitifus ridicularus
by salamagogo on Sep 2, 2010 11:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sticks and moves?
That only works when your feet are faster than your opponents. Brock will bullrush this sumbitch if he tries that.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Carwin has already been caught, I wonder how long it will be before Brock is?
You don’t get that big naturally.
Brock isn't even that big.
I’ve seen 5 guys his size already today. He works out and trains for a living(since he was 7) What the hell do you expect him to look like? He actually looks pretty flabby to me.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
I've seen pics of MBOW here.
He looks like he’s in better shape than Brock. Brock just has bigger bones.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Homo!
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
What?
I’m saying the guy is a beast. You don’t HAVE to take steroids to have abs and shit. Hard work will do it too. Especially if you do it right, like Bow does and the way I’m sure Brocks trainers are making him do it.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Yes. Always.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Just so you know, my best friend is 6'2"-6'3" and weighs probably 325. When we were 18 he was 6'2" 260-270, benched 425 and was MAYBE a step slower than me, and I ran high 4.6's low 4.7's.
Genetics does play a big part. I don’t know why everyone talks like Brock is the biggest man on earth, there are 20 guys on every football team bigger than Brock. While I’m sure he used PED’s while in the WWE, he goes through the same testing as everyone else now.
PS-Felix can verify current size of said friend.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Jesus, I can hide behind your friend. I am a midget 5'6" and a robust 180. Fear me!
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Sep 2, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
HA! He's in some of my FB pictures. I'm 6'1" 205 and look small next to him. He walked on to play football at a D-1 school after not playing since he was a freshman in high school. Genetic freak very similar build to Brock in size(when in shape).
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Great point.
It’s obvious if you look at Brock’s college wrestling footage that he’s just always been built like this.
And yeah, awesome point on every NFL team having someone bigger than him. Pretty much every offensive lineman is larger than Brock, at least the guards and tackles.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
Wtf?
How come everyone is always going on about Carwins awesome Cardio? The guy’s only been in the 3rd round once and couldn’t finish KONGO! YES, KONGO!. You know. that stupid french guy with ZERO ground game that shouldn’t be a problem for an amazing “ground ’n pounder” like Cain to finish?
Lesnar is going to keep his distance, keep his cool.. fake some takedowns and thro some overhand rights.. eventually take Cain down and then we will see who looks like a “fish out of water.” as Cain struggles to block punches from his back.
Riding the Brock Train..
Jon Fitch, Gray Maynard and Chael Sonnen can suck it. If I want a blanket I'll buy it in the store, not on PPV.
GSP and Rashad are getting close to joining this list.
And by Carwins awesome Cardio I obviously mean Cains awesome cardio. Silly me.
Riding the Brock Train..
Jon Fitch, Gray Maynard and Chael Sonnen can suck it. If I want a blanket I'll buy it in the store, not on PPV.
GSP and Rashad are getting close to joining this list.
And another thing.
Think what Matt Hughes would look like if he was much taller and much heavier. He would look like Brock. Why? Because they are farmers and farmers have muscles that you can’t get from lifting weights at a gym. This is why these guys are so big. Genetics too, yes.
Riding the Brock Train..
Jon Fitch, Gray Maynard and Chael Sonnen can suck it. If I want a blanket I'll buy it in the store, not on PPV.
GSP and Rashad are getting close to joining this list.
Good point, and true to a degree.
It depends on the individual, but almost all farm kids do heavy lifting for chores most of their lives. As well Farm kids fun in america especially is sports, and instead of playing video games or watching movies hanging out at the corner store, bloggin on the computer Brock works out and runs for fun? Hell he still doesn’t have a computer, his fun is hunting and training and has been for a large part of his life. Can you imagine most of your time every month is training and playing sports along with all the farm work? Not that every farm kid is like that but there odds are much, much greater that than a city kid in having great work ethic and lifestyle that away from coach potatoe type lifestyle that city slickers like us are at a great risk of falling into.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I can attest to the farm strength thing.
I wasn’t even an honest-to-God farmer, I just did it for fun/summers most of the time, but bucking 60-100lb hay bales one-handed is pretty damned hard to do at first.
After a few years of building up to the one-handed bale toss onto the rolling truck, I maxed my bench press at 310lbs (age 16 I weighed 155lbs at 6’2") and could rip four sets of twelve reps at 225 like it was absolutely nothing. I’ve always scratched my head at NFL combine bench rep numbers from guys that look like Adonis. They aren’t impressive to me in isolation.
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