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Looks awesome, Too bad its the only title fight in the next 5 events.

NOBODY wants to fight Fedor, Except: Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin, Frank Mir, JDS, Roy Nelson, Cain Velasquez, and the rest of the UFC heavyweight division.

by guyverbob on Sep 19, 2010 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Only title fight in next 5 events?

wow’ I guess the talent pool in the UFC is that deep… gotta hand it to the UFC n Dana, they will make $$$ off every single one of ‘em…. I wonder how much they are making off the Video games Annually???…… they certainly don’t have to pay the fighters for using their likeness…. DANA WHITE CHEAP BASTARD…… at least keep every one of those guys used in the Video games employed then… don’t CUT EM…

by THORAZINE on Sep 19, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kimbo's on that game.

Can we make one exception?

jay.

by jay. on Sep 20, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good. Let’s see how Shields will debut at UFC. Always admired him as a fighter and he deserved the contract with the biggest org. Now it’s time to show he is able to deal with the big dogs.

"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
''A man is not finished when he's defeated; he's finished when he quits'' Richard M. Nixon on Fedor's loss

by Eduardo Cruz on Sep 19, 2010 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Not a showman but a fighter to take seriously, I agree. His jiu-jitsu will be the key in the welterweight division.

"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
''A man is not finished when he's defeated; he's finished when he quits'' Richard M. Nixon on Fedor's loss

by Eduardo Cruz on Sep 19, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

But Kampann’s a tough sonofabitch. Iron chin, great standup, and a bitch to grapple with.

Keep in mind, he was the first guy to beat Thales Leites and only lost to Daley because he got into a slugfest with him. Very few, if any, welterweights could have stayed on their feet after that kind of beating.

I think Kampmann plays Shields and Shields plays Hendo in this one. Look for a shitty welcoming party for Jake.

Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.

by Johnny WF on Sep 19, 2010 8:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i hope so

for some reason i just find him very koscheckian

koscheckian = someone who, without any real reason, gives you an over riding feeling that this person is a twat.

by Totomamma on Sep 19, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course Kampman is a tough guy and this fight is very interesting for me. Shields will bring a new scenario for the divison.

"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
''A man is not finished when he's defeated; he's finished when he quits'' Richard M. Nixon on Fedor's loss

by Eduardo Cruz on Sep 19, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cain can handle the Brockness Monsters Wrestling... No Worries.

Some statements have been coming up about Cains’ ability to stuff Brocks takedowns.. Cain is an awesome wrestler despite the weight advantage, he wrestled with the best throughout college and even though he was 5th in the NCAA’s at Heavyweight his final year, he was talented enough that if things went his way he could’ve made the finals or won it (even won a dual match over Cole Conrad 2x NCAA Champ). The fight is going to be decided on Standup and conditioning as I assume there will be a lot of clinching and perhaps some takedowns and definitely takedown attempts, if taken down Cain will be able to get up for sure… I don’t think Cain will be able to take Brock down though unless Brock gets winded. I got Cain winning this one by better cardio and standup and taking Brock out by at least the 3rd round.

by THORAZINE on Sep 19, 2010 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

i think cain will take lesnar down

i got cain winning as well

cain is the future of the hw division he can do it all

by dia mette on Sep 19, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep wishing, you ABM sluts. Brock is going to shove Brown Stain up against the cage and work him over with fists and knees inside until Brown Stain topples over. Then The Brockness will jump on him for the kill. Brown stain will piss blood for a week after Brock is done with him.

Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.

by P-Dub on Sep 20, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

What? He came in 5th BECAUSE he wasn't talented enough to be a top dog. It will be the case again on the 23rd.
he wrestled with the best throughout college and even though he was 5th in the NCAA’s at Heavyweight his final year, he was talented enough that if things went his way he could’ve made the finals or won it

jay.

by jay. on Sep 20, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope u Cain haters finaly give him his props @ he whoops brocks ass!

I already got my tickets! 15 minutes away from my pad wut can be better. Jakes guna dominate the hit man! Any1 who can make hendog look silly is a force for anybody. Cain tko’ing the Brockness monster is guna be the shit!

by d*locc on Sep 19, 2010 8:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I think Cain might be able to...

make it to the 3rd round before he gets TKO’d, I see Brock taking him down easy, he’s a much better wrestler than cain and has good cardio too, obviously Cain has him beat in that department and the stand up but if he can keep him down it wont be a problem. Cain’s chin will be the deciding factor, how much of a beating can he take when he doesn’t have his take downs to fall back on.

I knew they were gonna put heavy emphasis on Cain being Mexican, that’s a large audience, I know people who don’t like MMA but love Velasquez, alot of mexicans are loyal to other mexicans, not me of course, I think rooting for someone cuz of their race is dumb but to each their own. Promo for this is gonna be massive, especially in the South West and Texas. 116 was the only time I can recall seeing billboards for a UFC event here, I expect a few around here for 121.

After Cain loses I hope we get to see Carwin-Velasquez, I was supposed to be at 104 but then that fight got cancelled and I opted not to go. But I will be in attendance at 121 :)

by FrostyGreenz559 on Sep 19, 2010 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Cain will be difficult to take down

Heath, Randy, and Shane all stuffed takedowns from Brock. Cain is a better athlete and an equal or greater wrestler than those three.

Brock’s going to have to trade with him. And Cain will eat him alive on the feet.

Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.

by Johnny WF on Sep 19, 2010 8:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

What makes you think Cain’s wrestling is so good?

by FrostyGreenz559 on Sep 19, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

From Wikipedia

Cain Ramirez Velasquez4 (born July 28, 1982) is a Mexican American5 mixed martial artist in the Heavyweight division.6 He is a two-time All-American collegiate wrestler from Arizona State and a Junior College National Champ at Iowa Central Community College.7 He is a two-time 5A state champion in Arizona, Compiling a record of 110-10 for Kofa High School located in Yuma, Arizona under Shawn Rustad and Marty Niblo

Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.

by Johnny WF on Sep 19, 2010 11:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Also gotta see how he wrestled against guys

who were winning division I titles guys like steve mocco, kole conrad, etc…. guys who are thought to be some of the greatest of all time collegiate wresters. He wasn’t getting clowned – he was gettin edged out in overtime. For a small school – Iowa Central seems to just make absolutely sick wrestlers -from jon jones to cain to joe soto who was stuffing and outworking a greco world champ warren.

Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 20, 2010 9:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You seriously think Cain is a better wrestler than Randy?

Quoting Wikipedia and making statements like Cain is a better wrestler than Randy make me worry bout you. I watched the wrestling display Cain put on against Kongo. Not impressive at all.

Having thousands of posts on a MMA site does not make you an expert, training martial arts, wrestling or boxing makes you an expert.

by ASR on Sep 20, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can outwrestle Kongo.

Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.

by P-Dub on Sep 20, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe you could.

Having thousands of posts on a MMA site does not make you an expert, training martial arts, wrestling or boxing makes you an expert.

by ASR on Sep 20, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

He stoppped a takedown with his face.

Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.

by P-Dub on Sep 20, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously... Brock is a better wrestler but not by much....

I don’t get this Brock is a much better wrestler crap…. I been around wrestling for a lot of years.. follow the NCAA’s finals every year.. Brock is a better wrestler but if they wrestled a match Brock will probably win a 6 minute match by a few points… it doesnt translate well into MMA IMO…. Cain is a much better wrestler than u would think… he took 5th at heavies in NCAA’s. On paper Brock is the most decorated and arguably the best heavy weight finalist in NCAA History. Cain V also beat one of those ‘possibly best hvwy weight wrestlers in history’ in Cole Conrad (Brocks training partner).

I am of hispanic descent and I don’t care for that ‘Brown Pride’ Tat on Cain’s chest, it’s a little 60 ish. But whatever, I like the fact he respecful of his opponents, is a smaller heavyweight and will have cardio for days, and unlike Couture, he has more muscle and better hands and speed…. If Couture can nullify Brocks wrestling…. I"m positive Cain will do twice the job.

by THORAZINE on Sep 19, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't buy that Brock is a better wrestler. If anything......

i would wager that Cain is better via being more versatile as a wrestler. Brock has a double leg for sure but hasnt shown anything else. I was expecting him to work other things against couture when he couldn’t especially against the cage. Even in his college days, his main tool was the power double. And yes power wrestlers generally translate better on a world level but brock didn’t pursue that so we can’t assume. Also Brock is much further away from his wrestling days than cain is to his. From Cain we’ve seen even in MMA how dynamic and versatile his wrestling is. As well as his transitions. He can work from distance or from inside, doubles, a sick variety of singles, trips and unlike brock, when he finishes his takedowns – he never seems to land in guard. His sense on mat is ridiculous. Against big nog, how sick was it when he instinctly moved to find himself in excellent spots to gnp. Against Rothwell, he seemed to always be in the perfect spot to land shots.

Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 19, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm...ok... makes sense.

Cain had to be a more skillful wrestler because he was wrestling bigger opponents and maybe that skill translates to MMA grappling as well…

by THORAZINE on Sep 20, 2010 4:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Carwin is a fellow national champ, Heath blocked 1 and I’d have to watch the Randy fight again but he’s an Olympic caliber wrestler, much much better than a Jr. Nat’l and pac 10 champ

by FrostyGreenz559 on Sep 19, 2010 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Carwin Division II Nat Champ not Div I

 Carwin with some wind in his lungs can deal with Brocks wrestling, imagine what Cain can do…

by THORAZINE on Sep 19, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are D2 champs that can and have beaten D1 champs, just because Carwin couldn’t afford a big university doesn’t make him any less of a wrestler. Carwin’s size helped him alot too.

And dude below me, Brock is a 4 time all american, 2 time Big Ten champ, HW nat’l champ and HW runner up, also a Jr. College nat’l champ like Cain.

by FrostyGreenz559 on Sep 19, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carwins and engineer.. if anything he was the only one that COULD afford a big university..

Riding the Brock Train..
Jon Fitch and Gray Maynard can suck it. If I want a blanket I'll buy it in the store, not on PPV.
Chael Sonnen = Pillow hands

by D-MoB on Sep 19, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the stupidest shit I’ve read all day. He said a D-1 school not college in general. Are you saying there’s no way to become an engineer without going to a D1 school?

GO BIG, OR GO HOME!!!

by LOKIE on Sep 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Or that his job and means of earning after college somehow equates to the years before as a non-earning student. Echo the ‘stupidest shit’ thought.

by Mayhem chimpanzee on Sep 19, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey pecker head.

I meant Shane Carwin could afford to go to school to become an engineer. While the others couldn’t.

But I was wrong, all three did attend university. But I wasn’t wrong in the way you thought I was.

Riding the Brock Train..
Jon Fitch and Gray Maynard can suck it. If I want a blanket I'll buy it in the store, not on PPV.
Chael Sonnen = Pillow hands

by D-MoB on Sep 20, 2010 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

D2 champs get invited to the D1 finals. Who was the last one to win?

by Sammy Noodleman on Sep 19, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt Div II wrestlers are tough and the elite can hang with Div 1

Im not trying to put down Carwin’s wrestling credentials, but rather building Cain V’s up. You said “Brock will take Cain down easy” Im saying… “no way”.

by THORAZINE on Sep 20, 2010 4:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cain might stuff a couple while he's fresh

But Lesnar IS a better wrestler, not by much but he is. He’ll also outweigh Cain by at least 30lbs come fight night which will be THE biggest factor. Brock will keep pushing for the TD and being the bigger and more skilled wrestler he will eventually get it.

by attakdog on Sep 20, 2010 6:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cain V is a 2 time division 1 all american

Placed 5th and 4th in Division 1. and Pac 10 Conference Champ and wrestler of the year

by THORAZINE on Sep 19, 2010 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I gotta run n' go play poker lol... but consider Cain's Wrestling nuliffy Brock's wrasslin'

Cain V is heck of a wrestler, people don’t know that because he wasn’t even top 3 and he’s smaller than Brock…. Cain has been wrestling against heavyweights all through college he knows how to handle a bigger man…. Brock will not suprise Cain in the wrestling department.

by THORAZINE on Sep 19, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea credential wise of course brock's Div I title beats him but.....

consider the competition that brock was facing vs the era that Cain was wrestling in. Also it’s not like cain was losing matches left and right….he was getting edged out in overtime and with riding time. Regardless this is mma.

Also for the Brock fans – anyone find it strange that he wasn’t trying to or maybe couldn’t regain guard when carwin was trying to pound him.Yea yea it sucks getting giant fists crashed into your face but in general when on your back and getting mashed out…….for any mma fighter it’s regain guard then work from there as the distance he was to reach to gnp is too long. And It’s not like Carwin was working position to make sure the was in prime GNP’ing location. For all his size brock off his back may not move as swiftly as one would imagine while riding top. Idk just something to think about i guess.

Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 19, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally, I saw something damn impressive from that bottom position. He obviously did a sufficient job of covering and not taking enough damage to be seriously hurt. As I watched I thought it was going to be stopped, that Brock was nearly out. But after that considerable punishment and time on the bottom, I saw him explode out from the bottom the second he had an opening without looking punch-drunk or wobbly. I actually said that the second it happened on fight night. “Wow, he exploded out of there. That was quick. Maybe he isn’t that hurt.” And why would he need to work to get guard if his skill is not jiu-jitsu? Putting himself on his back would not be advantageous at all and the end result showed that to be true.

by Mayhem chimpanzee on Sep 20, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Cain was definitely a gamer when he wrestled.

Like I said before with a little luck he could’ve been in the finals and won a NCAA Championship those top guys were only seperated by a few points or moves. Cain’s wrestling may translate better to MMA than Brocks…

by THORAZINE on Sep 20, 2010 4:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm looking forward to both fights

And I’m still laughing at Cain’s ability to handle bigger men.

"A lot of times, you beat a person who beat a person who can beat you. I mean, it doesn’t make any sense." – Joe Rogan

by RRRenan on Sep 19, 2010 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Never been a Mexican Heavyweight Champion?

So quickly we forget about Ricco Rodriguez. Sure he didn’t defend the title, but still, Cain would not be the first.

Ricco is Mexican/Puerto Rican American, and Cain is Mexican American. Neither of them were born outside of the US.

by 12onin on Sep 19, 2010 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey guys what does rec mean?

Some dude on the last thread wanted me to rec a thread idk what it is and how do you do it?

by axemurderer1990 on Sep 19, 2010 9:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

next to each thread post

there is an “action” link..
press it.
enjoy

by 12onin on Sep 19, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

means recommend aka your stamp of approval.

For posts….the more recs they have the longer they stay on the main page.

Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 19, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm writing down all your guy's names for later.

Because there is no way in hell your riding the Brock train after he dismantles your overrated spick Cain.

Riding the Brock Train..
Jon Fitch and Gray Maynard can suck it. If I want a blanket I'll buy it in the store, not on PPV.
Chael Sonnen = Pillow hands

by D-MoB on Sep 19, 2010 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Holy sweet Jesus.

Cain has beat nobody! why all the hype?? He punched out a half dead big Nog and slammed a can and everyone thinks he has amazing stand-up and wrestling?

GET REAL. He will do nothing while hes on his back getting the same treatment as Mir.

Riding the Brock Train..
Jon Fitch and Gray Maynard can suck it. If I want a blanket I'll buy it in the store, not on PPV.
Chael Sonnen = Pillow hands

by D-MoB on Sep 19, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, Lester!

Also, go fuck yourself you racist cunt.

Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.

by Johnny WF on Sep 19, 2010 11:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Unfortunately for Cain...

“White Trash Power” will prevail!

by ducknow on Sep 19, 2010 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

It would be kinda funny if Brock got a tempory tattoo " White Pride" to counter Cains for the weigh in and fight

by bigmcmac on Sep 19, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

The ufc is trying to go after the Mexican boxing fans. To bad Brock is gonna smash cain

It’s going to be like watching someone beat up their little brother. If Brock hits Cain, Cain goes to sleep. Brock will beat on Cain and make him drop to lhw.

by Conan the Barbarian on Sep 19, 2010 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Brock couldn't sleep couture - a 220 lbs 46 yr old man whose chin can be found on liddell's gloves.

He had to masterbate him to a tko.

Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 19, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s weird. I remember Brock knocking Randy off his feet and finishing him off and remember him knocking Herring across the cage as basically a novice, shattering his orbital. I also remember Cain buckling time and again to a couple jabs from Kongo. I think Brock will have enough time to find Cain.

by Mayhem chimpanzee on Sep 20, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

thankyou voice of reason

cain is as overhyped as they come. he looked like shit against kongo. brock would have finished him in the first round just like mir did. people keep saying how great cain is, but i havn’t seen it yet. he beat up nog…..big deal. everyone is beating the crap out of big nog nowadays.

 cain is just an overhyped gatekeeper. he is this year’s gabriel gonzaga.

by Conan the Barbarian on Sep 20, 2010 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

This guy gets it.

Riding the Brock Train..
Jon Fitch and Gray Maynard can suck it. If I want a blanket I'll buy it in the store, not on PPV.
Chael Sonnen = Pillow hands

by D-MoB on Sep 20, 2010 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

btw Conan - did we ever have a sig bet about this?

Probly made right after the carwin fight? I made bets with 6-7 different people and i don’t remember who everybody was.

Still though what about Cain has not impressed you? He has shown better striking and more versatile wrestling than brock. Most go to the same well Kongo (a studied striker with big power) dropped him to his knees for a second. Ok so? He still smashed him. We can say the same for Lesnar that Carwin was bashing him until he completely gassed out and fell over. In fact that beating was far worse and more than all the strikes that Cain has taken in all his fights. Cain didn’t get scared, turn/run away until he tripped and fell over himself when Kongo hit him. But i seem to remember brock doing just that when Carwin hit him.

Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 20, 2010 8:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

No, we've never sig bet

Versatility doesn’t guarantee anything. Cain is good at a lot of things, but he isn’t great at anything. Brock is the most dominant wrestler at hw. Cain is a good athlete, Brock is a freak athlete. Cain doesn’t hit as hard as car win and he isn’t as big or strong, so I think he will be able to stuff brock’s takedowns.

Let’s not forget, Brock was coming puff a long layoff and a serious illness. Brock still has room for improvement and he will come in better than we have ever seen. Don’t be surprised if Brock kicks the shit out of cain’s leg to stop his movement. At the end of the day I think it comes down to this……Brock can win by six inch hammer fists, Cain can’t.

by Conan the Barbarian on Sep 20, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

While I agree to a point

I do think that Cain is over hyped but that is the promotors job, to create credible opponents in the #1 contender. Cain did look great against Rothwell, but that was when he was using offensive wrestling and I think he is going to be like every other heavyweight in the division and want nothing to do with Lesnar on the ground, it is just a dangerous place where he has literally had his way with every fighter that was on the ground with him. It would be foolish of Cain and his camp to think any differently.

Cain’s striking did look good against NOG and Rothwell but he set up a lot of stuff in the Rothwell fight with leg and body kicks which he will not want to do against Lesnar for fear of the takedown. Cain had no fear of NOG trying ot take him down and unfortunately for NOG his head movement has left his stand up game and makes it easy for guys to tee off on him.

If it is actually looked at objectively on paper: Cain’s game plan from his last two fights will not work, he will not be able to be as agressive in his stand up for fear of the takedown, he will be giving up 4 inches in reach which will also take away from Cain’s apparently new found striking mastery(yes that is sarcasm), he will be giving up 30 pounds in weight, a ton in strength.

It is about the match-ups. Everyone says that Cain is perfect to beat Lesnar. I look at it and think how can this smaller, not as powerfull, guy with no speed, or wrestling advantage, who people only think has great striking which will probably be nullified by him not being able to work his game with the kicks to set it up due to fear of the takedown and giving up a sizeable reach advantage win this fight? Simply he will not.

Having thousands of posts on a MMA site does not make you an expert, training martial arts, wrestling or boxing makes you an expert.

by ASR on Sep 20, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the big ol cock Brock has blasted on his chest has clouded U brocksuckers common sense.

Ya we all know u guys wana get pumped by Brock but as far as fighting he has not looked great & actually looked horrible his last fight! U clowns really think Cain can’t hurt him yet 62 year old Randy rocked the shit out of him =D

by d*locc on Sep 20, 2010 10:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

CAIN COULDN'T BEAT KONGO!

He won a decision! how in the blue hell is that show awesome impressiveness?

And what wrestling did Cain show that’s better then Brocks? Those slams he once did? HA I would fucking PAY to see Cain pick up brock and slam him. I would.

Riding the Brock Train..
Jon Fitch and Gray Maynard can suck it. If I want a blanket I'll buy it in the store, not on PPV.
Chael Sonnen = Pillow hands

by D-MoB on Sep 20, 2010 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Brock couldn't beat Herring.....

he won a decision!how in the blue is that show awesome impressiveness?

Who has brock taken down in MMA – herring? Mur? (I would give most posters here great shot at taking both of those guys down) Carwin just fell over. Paycheck got back up within seconds despite giving up all that size.

Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 20, 2010 11:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He beat Herring to a pulp. The man decided fighting wasn't for him after fighting Brock

But he turtled the entire 15 minutes. It should/could have been stopped 100 times for HH’s lack of defending himself.

jay.

by jay. on Sep 20, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

and the Kongo fight couldn't have been stopped 100 times for

his lack of defense? Also herring retired because of beef with his management as well as dana. He’ll be back when he decides that low budget mma films aren’t his thing.

Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 20, 2010 12:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He was basically a novice when he fought Herring.

Did he even know what an arm triangle was when that took place? Brock is still learning and shows it every time out. As far as the HH fight from over two years ago, he beat him for every moment of the fight. Herring is an experienced vet and a tough dude so he was able to hang in there. But if that fight took place now, Heath would be finished in the first.

by Mayhem chimpanzee on Sep 20, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love it when people bring up Herring

Herring is a tough guy but Lesnar literally retired him. He has not fought since and does not appear to be in any hurry to do so.

Having thousands of posts on a MMA site does not make you an expert, training martial arts, wrestling or boxing makes you an expert.

by ASR on Sep 20, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

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