Charles Oliveira ready to give 'his heart and his life' to fight with 'the best fighters'
by Jesse Holland on Sep 16, 2010 12:31 PM EDT
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"Go Team Bronx! We are a complete school. I wanted to show that not only do I have jiu-jitsu, but I have strikes too because I fight stand-up (against Escudero). I know I made a lot of mistakes in the stand-up, but I do my best to keep it going, I'm training hard and getting better. I want to fight with the best fighters. All my fights, I give my life, I give my heart, it doesn't matter who I fight."
Undefeated lightweight sensation Charles Oliveira (14-0), fresh off his "Submission of the Night" against Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 8 champion Efrain Escudero at UFC Fight Night 22 in Austin, Texas, is ready for whatever the promotion can throw at him as he plows through the crowded 155-pound division. "Do Bronx" is just 20-years-old and has already created quite a buzz for his performances and penchant for finishing his opponents. Does the UFC wait and slowly develop him like they did with Jon Jones? Or does he jump out of the frying pan and into the fire? Let's hear your fantasy match-ups for this talented Brazilian.
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Awesome, I really like this guy. 20 year old, good fearless standup, and great ground game.
Bright future for this kid.
"NOBODY wants to fight Fedor." - Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner
Oliveira reminded me
of a modified version of Jose Aldo with the ease he displayed throughout that entire fight last night. It looked like he had Efrain outclassed everywhere including on the feet which I wasn’t expecting. His leg kicks were lightning fast, and he was throwing some impressive quick combinations. As we know from his previous SOTN his BJJ is ridiculous, he’s a very dangerous LW. I think he’ll have a lot of new fans after this fight, including me.
What we do in life echoes in eternity
Libera nos a malo
He did look similar, but his technique in the standup is far far away from Aldo.
But with his level of jits and because he is so fearless and doesn’t mind getting taken down, he will be a fan favorite forsure.
"NOBODY wants to fight Fedor." - Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner
Agreed
He looked good, can improve a bunch of things in stand up, but at 20, with his last two fights, I’d like to see that guy fight 3-4 times per year. It’ll be crazy to see how he’s doing in 3-5 years.
What we do in life echoes in eternity
Libera nos a malo
Me too with those kicks
and all his dancing and wiggling and straight kicks reminded me of anderson silva a bit. i see this guy leaving a big mark on the LW division
i like him..he is scrappy..
needs some cleaning up of his style…but he is exciting to watch..glad he didn’t work himself out of it…feared he’d gas..good show ..(quietly stepping on the bandwagon) lol
Complete school?
Wasn’t he saying that he doesn’t train wrestling because BJJ is superior a few interviews ago?
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 16, 2010 12:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He did, but if his length and jits scares guys like Escudero, can't think of many guys not top 5 UFC that will want to wrestle this kid.
His transition to the back last night was sick. He just hopped on and cranked. I actually got up and yelled. He also was getting the better of Efrain standing up before that scramble.
Can you iagine thi skid in 5 years when he develpos his “man strength”?? WOW. Barring major injury, we could be watching this kid for the next 15 years.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
U heard it from me 1st.
BJ is changing, it focuses more on wrestling now than it did before because a lot of wrestlers are making the transition and walking into BJ gyms, instructors are picking up a lot of the wrestling game. The sport of wrestling will stay the same, but BJ has a good chance to evolve and add wrestling to it… kinda like a hybrid of both sports. MMA adds the hybrid of GnP and standup putting it all together.
Lost in Translation?
I wonder how much of that was a correct translation. Not saying he did or did not say that, but I am curious how well his comments were translated.
by AngryTwinkie on Sep 16, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Ive heard more than 1 BJJ guy say they don’t train wrestling because they think BJJ is superior
Hell ask any of the gracies… They will tell ya
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by Red Eye Jedi on Sep 16, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
this kid is exciting
he climbs around people like a spider monkey. look at those legs he got efrains back outta nowhere. how bout him vs dos anjos
Yeah, that was a sick sub. I like how he trapped that arm w/ his leg.
by HappyLittleTreez on Sep 16, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Reminds me of a younger Miguel Torres.
by HappyLittleTreez on Sep 16, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions
and better
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
yeup
id like to say we are original bandwagoners
-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)
by *Californication* on Sep 16, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
absolutely. you saw my comments on Mac's thread...
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
vv weve been outted vv
-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)
by *Californication* on Sep 16, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
that may be true
BUT
according to Freenow Rule #14B
“One must have at least 17 posts before being eligable to join/claim a fighter bandwagon. Additionally, one must have a minimum of 200 posts to ride shotgun and 523 to drive said wagon.”
-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)
by *Californication* on Sep 16, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
haha, I love it
"NOBODY wants to fight Fedor." - Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner
really??
u faggot fucks brag about who was on the bandwagon first.. u guys are fuckin gay as hell… no i did, me first, told ya so.. sound like a bunch of dumb fuckin kids.
YOUR BJJ WILL DO NOTHING FOR YOU WHEN IM FEEDING YOU KNEES AND ELBOWS FOR LUNCH SON!!!
by thesickness on Sep 16, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
That choke was on the jaw. WTF?
To be the best you gotta be one crazy son of a bitch…and that’s the truth - BJ Penn
It was THAT tight!! lol, I was shocked on the replay myself.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Yeah, it was on the chin. But look at Efrains arm, there was no way he was getting out. He’s lucky he had that free arm to tap with lol.
by HappyLittleTreez on Sep 16, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Oliveira climbed OVER the arm. WOW, this kid could be special.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
What about Cole Miller as his next opponent?
Good experience without throwing him into the deep end.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Agreed. Cole Miller would be a great opponent for him.
then if he gets through miller, give him guida. Then a top 5 er
by Andrew Keller on Sep 16, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought about huggy bear too, but I think it is too soon. The kid is 20 for craps sake.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
huggybear should lay it out with McKee
"NOBODY wants to fight Fedor." - Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner
Did you see McKee's last fight? He added Hellbows and cut the shit out of his opponent. It was two vicious cuts. The guy actually turned away mid-fight.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
forsure, I saw it and was pleasantly surprised.
But come on… 18/25 victories by decision. I certainly hope he finishes people in the UFC like he did his last opponent.
"NOBODY wants to fight Fedor." - Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner
Bones jones is only 22...I belive he was 21 when he fought Bonnar...
and people are already asking to give jones a top 5er. Yes, jones has more fights in the UFC under his belt, but my point is that age shouldnt be too much of a factor. the degree to which he fights should be.
by Andrew Keller on Sep 16, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Bones should get a top 5'er, maybe a top 10. Bader, Forrest, Couture.
Someone that is good, but beatable…maybe not Bader, save that for a title fight in 2 years.
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jon jones ran over vera and all the rest of his opponents. he needs to fight the top guys. if he loses than work on it and come back but i dont see hiom losing any time soon
by Burlzilla129 on Sep 16, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I can easily him losing against Bader.
"NOBODY wants to fight Fedor." - Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner
hamill is supposed to be this great wrestler and vera used to wrestle greco roman with the olypic team
and jones handled them like they were rag dolls
by Burlzilla129 on Sep 16, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Who said Hamill is supposed to be a great wrestler? Division 3 for gods sake...
Bader is a two-time Division 1 All American.
"NOBODY wants to fight Fedor." - Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner
Personally, I think Hamill is etremely overated in his wrestling
he grabs for the take down and never shoots for it. It’s just sloppy if you ask me( I know you didn’t). Bader is a lot mor of an “athletic” wrestler.
The Pain Train's in full steam ! ABM's look out.
None of those opponents were top 15, now you want to give him a top 5? That is a big leap in talent level.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
i dont like u.
no maybe not bader. dude ur a fukin homo, u should come to wisconsin so i can punch you in your tooth! yes i meant tooth and not teeth.
YOUR BJJ WILL DO NOTHING FOR YOU WHEN IM FEEDING YOU KNEES AND ELBOWS FOR LUNCH SON!!!
by thesickness on Sep 16, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
The fuck?
Your hands are small enough to hit a single tooth?
Going to church doesnt make you any more Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car.
yeah, they make his 1" cock look really fucking big!
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Guida has to get through Gomi first
Gomi-Oliveira would be awesome; be interesting to see if Oliveira could survive on his feet long enough to exploit Gomi’s jits weakness.
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
by Johnny WF on Sep 16, 2010 4:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Guida is fighting Gomi? Did I miss an announcement?
"NOBODY wants to fight Fedor." - Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner
Good call. I was thinking Miller should fight Florian. But I like this fight better. I don’t know how much Miller would like it though lol.
by HappyLittleTreez on Sep 16, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, yeah, yeah.... Miller is gud!!
Oliveira is 14-0 and 13 of those fights he Finished… he’s kinda like a Jose Aldo except at 155lbs. very explosive!
Meh...Even though Efrain got submitted, I think he was by far what made that fight so exciting.
Give this hooker douche Joe Daddy and see if he has the wrestling for the upper echelon.
The when he gets pounded because hes beat no one except Efrain(who got sloppy), then match him up with the bangers
Oliveira was winning the fight BEFORE the sub...was Efrain sloppy from the start? lol.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
efrain was not making the fight exciting he kept looking to counter. charles was the one pushing the pace so open your eyes next time and watch the whole fight
by Burlzilla129 on Sep 16, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh sigh, jump around like a monkey and apparently you impress people. Time to get off his nuts boys
He landed some leg kicks, wow! Move over Jamie Yager
by snipersniper on Sep 16, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
The kid's Jits' is scary good.
He makes it look effortless. Any time he’s in the clinch or guard you wonder what move he’s going to transition to for the submission. If I was any wrestler I’d be worried to take this guy down because he is nimble/slippery as a cat.
He Just (obviously)needs to work on that strength, but I have to wonder if his body type will always hinder his striking striking power.
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by RogersPark Kris on Sep 16, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions
I like the kid. good fighter. seems humble and intelligent.
But Joe Rogan was so far up his ass and hugging his nuts so tightly it sort of demanded that i root against him.
* "Standing in the ring in whatever condition I'm in is my way of life."
* "I don't think the injury was the cause for my defeat, I lost being in 100% condition at fight day. It's possible that Santiago might have been injured as well, I lost because my best was insufficient, only mortifying thoughts remain now. I think I would've entered the ring even if I lost one of my legs, I'm a fighter who fights, not with technique, but with heart."
--Kazuo Misaki
He really made Efrain look like shit.
But, Efrain missed weight by 4 pounds so he probably wasn’t totally focused coming into the fight. I guess I will wait untill his next fight before I call him the next big deal.
To be the best you gotta be one crazy son of a bitch…and that’s the truth - BJ Penn
Efrain did that himself
Holding Oliveira against the cage every chance he had. Escudero is not one of my least favorite fighter. I was yelling at the tv the whole time
Rise of lanky killers
Anderson, Jones, Aldo — maybe we’ll soon add Oliveria to that list? It seems that the the reasonably well-rounded, lanky guys are making quite a move up the charts in a multitude of divisions.
I would like to see Oliveira fight Tyson Griffin.
STFU...BJ is done after Hughes beats his ass
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Of course he would. Who gives a shit though?
Stick to BJ threads, dummy. BTW, that is a terrible picture of you. As Mexi would say, I’d probably only give you a good mouth pumping.
To be the best you gotta be one crazy son of a bitch…and that’s the truth - BJ Penn
yeup the other one was much better
I take back all the nice things i said i do to her, before.
Now go douche and wash your mouth out with buckshot.
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by *Californication* on Sep 16, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Kenflo next
I think a match w kflo would be exciting, these two would duke it out for sure, no LNP.
by Dball on Sep 16, 2010 1:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I still don't see
why Efrain didn’t at least try to slam that kid on his back or put him on his head! Something! He just stood there! As we used to say in football practice, he didn’t want it.
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Sep 16, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions
Afraid of the killer guard this kid has, obviously he wanted nothing to do w/ the ground.
When Oliveira outstuck him too, he was like “Aw, fuck.”
Hadoken!!
He's Really Good.
I liked what I saw. You know he’s always gonna press the action and be in an exciting fight. But he’s a bit frail looking. Could stand to put on some muscle mass. Not sure if he can take a hit either.
Shogun's knee will explode for the final time when Rashad shoots for the takedown.
Hes only 20
Imagine this kid putting on some good muscle and heading to 170? That plus a few more years training = a phenomal fighter.
Going to church doesnt make you any more Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car.
Future champ
He may look like the crack head off the pj’s, but this kid can fight. Sharpen up a little and he’ll be a future champ imo.
by vinrex7 on Sep 16, 2010 4:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I say
Either Cole miller or Joe lauzon…either of these fights would b exciting imo.
by hitemwiturgroin on Sep 16, 2010 4:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Lauzon is fighting Soti first. That is a great fight.
I think Oliviera-Miller would be great. And the timing fits perfectly.
"NOBODY wants to fight Fedor." - Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner
impressive
I picked him to win so I knew he was good but the excitement he brings is what mma is all about. His skills are sick and to think he is only 20 is scary. Do bronx vs mangrino would b an excellant next matchup. They both just beat former tuf winners and neither would be facing a huge, possibly stifling step up or taking a step down.
Old enough to know better, young enough to enjoy it...
by DrunkenStyle on Sep 16, 2010 4:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
oliveira was definitly exciting
But he was very sloppy on the feet, he had some nice legkicks but escudero was countering him all night. But he does has a lot of potential if he puts some more muscle on he has some more power in his strikes and if he finetunes his striking he would definitly be a future star.
Time to place oliveira in my top 5
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by robinhorobson on Sep 16, 2010 5:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
he is beast
the arm bar triangle made me a huge fan, but since mclovin is moving back to light weight id love to see that..
It looks like I am not the only one this kid impressed
Exciting fighter for sure.
Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.
I'm ready to see this kid again
He reminded me of Carlos Newton, who was always willing to put on an exciting fight.
Oliveira
just became my favourite lightweight last night. Very mixed, skilled, spectacular display. Love his energy too
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