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Jim Miller's next fight? Don't expect any call-outs or (expletive) talking ...

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Because that's not Miller's style, according to his post-fight comments, even if it keeps him from the lightweight title for at least another year...

"I think I'm a couple wins away [from a title shot]. There's still a couple of guys that have the recognition at the top of the divsion even with a couple of losses lately so I gotta keep fighting. It hasn't even been two years since I've been with the UFC so I'm just trying to fight as often as I can and fight the toughest guys I can ... It's not my style to start calling anybody out, I just have a ton of respect for my peers and the guys that train their asses off to step in the Octagon with me. I just try to keep it at that, respect them and not talk shit."

Make it 7-1 inside the Octagon and 18-2 overall for Jim Miller, who took a unanimous decision win over the dangerous Gleison Tibau at last night's UFC Fight Night 22 event in Austin, Texas. The Sparta native has only one blemish on his stellar UFC resume, a decision loss to the still-unbeaten Gray Maynard. Does this win finally put him on the map? Or is the 155-pound division just too crowded to put Miller in the top five?

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Miller had a great performance

nut I think some crazy brazillian named Charles stole the LW shine

by theworldismine on Sep 16, 2010 10:59 AM EDT reply actions  

And so..

His bandwagon starts now.

Triangles don't dodge Fedor.

by guyverbob on Sep 16, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was impressive but.

I just don’t like how everyone will call him future Champ and stuff. Efrain I think could take him in a rematch, Because he underestimated him big time and though his striking would’nt be as good as it was. He only got him down once and only tried to like once, and we saw Efrain get some good GNP on him for the short time it was happening.

NOBODY wants to fight Fedor, Except: Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin, Frank Mir, JDS, Roy Nelson, Cain Velasquez, and the rest of the UFC heavyweight division.

by guyverbob on Sep 16, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oliveira pulled guard, I don't think EE took him down.

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by Ulf Murphy on Sep 16, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was kinda both, He was on his way down I think.

NOBODY wants to fight Fedor, Except: Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin, Frank Mir, JDS, Roy Nelson, Cain Velasquez, and the rest of the UFC heavyweight division.

by guyverbob on Sep 16, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

did'nt look like it to me..

so don’t go bitching at me cause thats what I remember please.

NOBODY wants to fight Fedor, Except: Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin, Frank Mir, JDS, Roy Nelson, Cain Velasquez, and the rest of the UFC heavyweight division.

by guyverbob on Sep 16, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm.

I’m pretty sure hes top ten in the UFC, But top five has gotta be(Not really in order) Edgar, Bj, Gray, Kenflo and maybe Dunham/Sherk. But its not hard to place Miller in there if he keeps winning.

Triangles don't dodge Fedor.

by guyverbob on Sep 16, 2010 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

the guy needs to get some attitude.

who wants to hear what he just said? he’s gonna remain a nobody. He was his fight against Bocek was in NJ, cause he lost that one.

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by RoBerto. on Sep 16, 2010 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

I know just messing with you.

It was a close fight, I don’t think either guy could have been robbed, Though I do think Mark Bocek may have done just a little bit more.

NOBODY wants to fight Fedor, Except: Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin, Frank Mir, JDS, Roy Nelson, Cain Velasquez, and the rest of the UFC heavyweight division.

by guyverbob on Sep 16, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

All Bocek did all fight was score positions. Standing, Miller won the fight. On the ground, he got a bunch of takedowns, but not much damage off them. Even when he took Miller’s back in the second round with an arm trapped, he did virtually no damage and Miller never let him anywhere near his neck. On the other hand, Miller was constantly attacking and putting him in danger off his back, and Bocek came very close to tapping to that kimura, to the extent his hand seems to flinch at it twice. Bocek’s dominant position won him round 2, Miller’s damage and constant threats won him rounds 1 and 3. Miller won rightfully 29-28.

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by JustBlogGuy on Sep 16, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Improving positions still gets points..

Taking someones back still gets alot of points, Alot of people think he won on points, No ones says he did enough to win by damage.

NOBODY wants to fight Fedor, Except: Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin, Frank Mir, JDS, Roy Nelson, Cain Velasquez, and the rest of the UFC heavyweight division.

by guyverbob on Sep 16, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Warning, this is a long one

Yeah, and that is why I say he won second round. But taking somebody down and then getting viciously kimura’d does not score points.

The first round was certainly Miller’s 10-9. He landed the more significant strikes on the feet, thought it was close there, and while Bocek took him down twice, the first he was taken down in a half-pull situation as Miller had a guillotine and then immediately got up, and with the second once on the ground Miller worked a gogoplata, then swept and nearly finished with a kimura and split Bocek with strikes from on top.

The second frame goes to Bocek 10-9. Miller tries to roll for a leg lock and briefly has it deep but Bocek remains calm and escapes into the mount, which leads to the back take with the arm trapped. Bocek works for 1:45 in this position, but nearly all the strikes hit the hand, and he is never close to a submission. Coupled with the first half of the round being even, and Miller’s leg lock, it’s certainly not a 10-8, so the fight is even going into the third.

Round three, Miller gets the better of punching and also scores with a handful of hard leg kicks. They clinch against the cage and trade missed TD attempts, with both landing strikes though Miller landing the more significant ones again. Bocek scores a brief takedown but they pop up before any damage, Miller tries one of his own, Bocek lands some knees, but no points should be given as Jim was downed at the time, though the ref misses it. Another takedown from Bocek that Miller immediately stands from and follows with a single of his own, and then takes Bocek’s back before the round ends. 10-9 Miller. 29-28 Miller.

I think there are two things that skew a lot of people’s views of the fight. 1) The time on the back by Bocek sticks out so much that it is easy to forget he didn’t exactly brutalize with it, and it only happened in one round, meaning it couldn’t win a decision on its own, it could only give him one of the two rounds you need to win. 2) Advantageous positions are advantageous because they allow you to do more damage than your opponent. If you have the better position, such as being on top after a TD, but your opponent does more from bottom, you are still losing. With the exception of the one that led to the back, Bocek’s takedowns led to one of two things — an immediate escape, or defending Miller’s attacks from below. So, the one he did things with won him a round. His inability to do anything with the others lost him the other two.

The two rounds Miller won were actually very similar to the Tibau fight, with perhaps slightly closer striking and with more clear advantage for Jim after the TDs, which is why it is odd to me to see all of the “thank God the judges got it right” this time, after “it’s a robbery” with Bocek, and I think that back take is a big reason why.

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by JustBlogGuy on Sep 16, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The summary version:

Yes, positions score points, but only to an extent. The back take won him that round, but there’s no magic rule that says back with an arm trapped also provides bonus points for you in the other rounds. In the other rounds, the only dominant positions were Millers, as was more of the offense, thus he still wins those rounds, and the fight, two rounds to one.

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by JustBlogGuy on Sep 16, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you have a guys back the whole round, You will win the round.

Thats not what happend but everyone knows your getting points for having the other guys back. And also even if he was doing nothing, what was Miller doing to gain points when his back was taken?

NOBODY wants to fight Fedor, Except: Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin, Frank Mir, JDS, Roy Nelson, Cain Velasquez, and the rest of the UFC heavyweight division.

by guyverbob on Sep 16, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing. That is why he wins the round he took his back. I am not disputing Round 2 and have said in each post Bocek won Round 2.

He only took his back in one round, though, and taking his back in Round 2 does exactly nothing to help him win Round 1 or Round 3, which he would also have to do to win the fight. In Round 1 and Round 3, Miller landed more and better strikes. When Bocek did take him down, he either got right back up or was the one on the attack. Miller had more offense in Rounds 1 and 3. That makes the score 29-28 Miller, precisely the score awarded by the judges.

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by JustBlogGuy on Sep 16, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bocek almost won..

But he lost, I’m just arguing both sides.

NOBODY wants to fight Fedor, Except: Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin, Frank Mir, JDS, Roy Nelson, Cain Velasquez, and the rest of the UFC heavyweight division.

by guyverbob on Sep 16, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

ROB this guy doesnt need an attitude at all.. He's tough and lets his fighting speak for itself

Why do shit talker’s interest you? It might be better for the ufc if the guy has a great personality but that’s just not the way things work out.. Some of the best fighters out there don’t care about hyping up a fight with shit talk… Its up to the ufc to market them on there skills.. And miller is awesome to watch fight so there should be no problem getting him in some bigger fights.. You logic is messed up… Then again you are a tito fan so that probably explains a lot. ;)

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by Red Eye Jedi on Sep 16, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm looking out for the kid's own good.

I hate it when fighters say oh i leave it up to the UFC like they’re gonna do him any favours. He obviously needs to make a statement sometime and let them know that he’s there to win the title. If he’s holding on to the quiet image he might just be another Yushin Okami.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic !

by RoBerto. on Sep 16, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're the one with the crazy logic.
Why do shit talker’s interest you? It might be better for the ufc if the guy has a great personality but that’s just not the way things work out..

what’s good for the UFC is obviously good for the fighter. Dana loves shit-talkers and he gives them tons of big oppurtunities b/c Dana is a media whore, his whole organization exists from having “commercial” fighters/celebrities , that’s what the whole build-up process is about for all UFC newcomers. It’s a pure entertainment business. I don’t agree with it but if Miller had a name he would’ve already competed for the title.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic !

by RoBerto. on Sep 16, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always enjoy watching Miller fight

I know that guy will come prepared every time. He’s 100% business and I respect the heck out of that and will always be a fan of his.

Look at all these fools who do talk crap and half of them are getting arrested, poppin peds, missing weight, or some other nonsense.

by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Sep 21, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why not Miller/Florian?

That would be a great fight and these guys match up pretty well and this will give Kenny a chance to show he take on a wrestler. A win would put up for a #1 contender match at the very least.

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by Buster Bluth on Sep 16, 2010 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

I like the idea.

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by doonerthesooner on Sep 16, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Kenny will be getting a crack at Miller, Dunham/Sherk or George. He’s out of the title picture right now, as far as Dana is concerned, so it doesn’t make sense for the UFC to give him one of the guys who will be the three front-runners after the Dunham/Sherk bout, when they can match him somebody a little lower on the ladder without any real risk.

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by JustBlogGuy on Sep 16, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Miller is for sure moving up

I was at the event last night, and the Miller Tibau fight was the one I was most interested in seeing. Miller is tough as nails, Tibau has heavy hands and is bigger/stronger than Miller. One thing I noticed is that every time Miller tried got close to Tibau in the clinch or tried to take him down Tibau was able to control. Miller made a good adjustment later in the 2nd and into the 3rd where he did not try to take Tibau down or clinch with him as often since he was getting the better of the stand up. I think Miller is two wins away from a title shot though. He needs to beat a wrestler in order to get the shot. I think he will get Guida next, followed by maybe Sotiropolous if he wins for a contender shot.

by domino effect on Sep 16, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

War the Miller brothers, Jim is getting close to a title shot and Dan just got back on the win column big fan of both guys.

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by Nightwhistler on Sep 17, 2010 3:42 AM EDT reply actions  

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