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BJ Penn vs Matt Hughes 3 possible for UFC 123 on Nov. 20

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Former welterweight champions BJ Penn and Matt Hughes will collide for the third and likely final time in a 170-pound bout at UFC 123, which is scheduled for  The Palace of Auburn Hills in Auburn Hills, Mich., on Nov. 20.

Ariel Helwani today confirmed the rampant speculation after Hughes hinted on his official website that he would return to action when the promotion hits "Motor City" later this year.

Penn and Hughes first met way back in 2004, with a 25-year-old "Prodigy" living up to his nickname and upsetting the dominant champion via submission (rear naked choke) in the UFC 46: "Super Natural" main event. Penn would relinquish the title shortly thereafter because of a contractual dispute with the promotion.

Star-divide

The Hawaiian returned two years later, losing a number one contender match to the upstart Georges St. Pierre via controversial split decision. But when "Rush" injured himself training for Hughes, who regained his title by defeating the Canadian at UFC 50, Penn was called in on short notice to rematch Hughes.

Hughes, barely, survived being mauled by Penn in the first two rounds in their championship tilt at UFC 63 in 2006. He turned the tables, however, on a poorly conditioned Penn, who complained after the bout that he sustained a rib injury, to score a convincing third round technical knockout (strikes) victory.

Now four years later, it's time to put an end end to one of the most heated rivalries in the history of the promotion with an epic trilogy match.

Penn, who has competed at lightweight (155 pounds) since the loss to Hughes -- sans a welterweight super fight between champions against St. Pierre in 2009 -- has lost back-to-back fights against division champion Frankie Edgar. Hughes, meanwhile, has resurrected his Hall of Fame career with three straight wins over talented veterans such as Matt Serra, Renzo Gracie and Ricardo Almeida.

Will current trends continue when the two sworn enemies collide in little more than two months or does Penn have what it takes to topple his 36-year-old counterpart?

UFC 123 is expected to be headlined by a light heavyweight match up of top contenders Lyoto "The Dragon" Machida and Quinton "Rampage" Jackson. The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) alums, Joe Lauzon and George Sotiropoulos, are also expected to throw down in an important 155-pound showdown.

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hell yes !

this cards looking better every day.

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by DetroitDrew1980 on Sep 13, 2010 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

If its a fight with BJ this card will have a perfect Co Main. I would be interested in seeing if Matt still has it left in him since a win here would put him in line for a contender fight. and if BJ has it in him to get back on track.

by EvolutionMMA on Sep 13, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol a guy with 3 wins in a row fighting a guy with 2 losses in a row?

You guys are breaking FreeNow rule #17a many times over. Just stop it, it is not happening!

BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.

by freenow82 on Sep 13, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

think outside the box

the guy with the winning streak hasnt really faced the kind of competition that would warrent a title fight. the guy with losses lost in back to back titel fights and to the same fighter. If this match is going to happen this is perfect timing.

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by DetroitDrew1980 on Sep 13, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

forget win/lose streaks

these guys are tied up at 1-1 and have unfinished business. They both ruled their division while champ. Their arent in there haydays anymore but are still VERY competitive. Lets get in the rubber match before they get even further into their fighter wonder years, or they retire.

UFC matchmaking > Rule17a

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

We'll see.

BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.

by freenow82 on Sep 13, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

UFC matchmaking = $$

two guys that have lost the “it” factor gets matched up in one last attempt by Zuffa to promote one of these guys (matt hughes) over the edge into title contention once again. Could also be that BJ has officially joined the “money league” where classic UFC fighters gets matched up against names that aren’t gonna get them title fights but sell and make money.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic !

by RoBerto. on Sep 13, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you.

I kind of want to see this rematch. The only thing that makes me wonder is if BJ will have any cardio at 170. If BJ is properly prepared he wins this fight any day…any way.

by Shadyone33 on Sep 13, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

That rule has taken a beating this week. LOL

jay.

by jay. on Sep 13, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a dumb rule anyway.

You can’t have such black and white rules in life Free. You or Zuffa and the fans would miss out on a lot of good things in life or good match ups.

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL

by MBOW on Sep 14, 2010 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

rules are meant to be broken. statistically I'd say the rule applies in about 95% of the fights in the UFC

BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.

by freenow82 on Sep 14, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

But it’s not so black-and-white. There are many other variables such as which opponents they’ve both faced, the level of hype and fame they have — how big a name they are — if there’s a history between them, if they are a good match-up etc.

But perhaps that fits into the 5% ;)

"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.

by Jackanapes on Sep 14, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I gotta say though, even though I don’t like Rule #17a in your book, I have to admit I particularly like Rule #24F: NO FATE BUT WHAT ME MAKE as well as Rule #34: Don’t shit where you eat.

Very impressive!

"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.

by Jackanapes on Sep 14, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been trying to keep an eye out for tickets too, had never paid attention to how far in advance they put them out.

by SKGBJJ on Sep 13, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

good fight for the event!

by detroit_fan on Sep 13, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

dana's treating us good!

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by DetroitDrew1980 on Sep 14, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

funny

everyone said I was nuts when I called this minutes after Edgar beat Penn again

mondaymorningblackbelt.com

by kevjack115 on Sep 13, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was crazy

but now everyone loves the fight, lmao!

mondaymorningblackbelt.com

by kevjack115 on Sep 13, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I called this too.

Using no way as way, having no limitation as limitation.

by Two_Words on Sep 13, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

woah woah woah

ive been on this wagon for a long time

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

its not like it was a tough fight to predict.

probably one of the only interesting fights left for BJ besides Gomi

Loyality before Reality

by brendog on Sep 14, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m obviously outnumbered here, but despite this fight being an obvious option — don’t know how Kev thinks he “called” it first — there are plenty of good match-ups for BJ at lightweight which I would prefer to see over BJ vs Matt HUGE III.

All the up and comers would suit him nicely — Evan Dunham, George Sotiropopopulousus, Gray Maynard (down the line obviously), Gomi — even Efrain Escudero, Cole Miller (if he gets a rhythm going) and so forth.

I would love to see BJ do well at 170, but I doubt he could stop Fitch, Kos, or even Anthony Johnson from man-handling him because he just doesn’t have the frame to beat that kind of wrestling and size at a higher division. Yeah, AJ might be a stretch, but even that match-up interests me more than BJ/Hughes III.

"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.

by Jackanapes on Sep 14, 2010 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

post your address

We will all send u hero cookies

I'm gonna go home, watch DirecTV, drink bud light and ride my Harley Davidson!!

by Newfie3 on Sep 14, 2010 6:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

LOL, nice.

BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.

by freenow82 on Sep 14, 2010 6:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nostradumbass #2

Dragon wins by decision when was the last time Rampage was Knocked Out. Plus Lyoto will be even more elusive than ever before and fast enough to score good combos and leg kicks on Rampage. Hughes will also win a decision because he will take BJ down and control 3+ minutes of all three rounds to get the Nod. No Submissions or Knock Outs here guys. I can see the Future Remember. :)

by Cory B on Sep 13, 2010 9:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

more often than not, the guy who won the rematch wins the rubber match

Randy-Chuck trilogy, Hughes-GSP trilogy, AA-Timmy trilogy,

go matt hughes. OG!!

Whens the sig rubber match David W-S? I need vengeance!

Shogun Rua vs Rogerio Nogueira 2 coming soon!

LATE TAKEDOWN FTW

by Synyster_08 on Sep 13, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

A motivated Penn takes this fight no question.

Using no way as way, having no limitation as limitation.

by Two_Words on Sep 13, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hate that type of statement.

motivation and mindset is as much a part of fighting as a left hook. thats like saying if rampage throws left hooks he wins the fight. make a concrete dicision not based on bullshit like motivation.

by Egads on Sep 13, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

i stand by my statement

Using no way as way, having no limitation as limitation.

by Two_Words on Sep 13, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

i acknowledge your statement as accurate and second it

If BJ walks in and DOESNT slap his face hes fucked

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

fair enough. i just think its kinda chicken shittish

ive heard that motivation thing with bj far too many times.

by Egads on Sep 13, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i acknowledge your statement as accurate and second it

Like with Fedor, some people are unable to accept BJ for what he is. The only difference is BJ is 15-7-1. He loses near 1/3 of his fights but people sit back and talk about how unbeatable he is. Sorry….. I used to talk BJ up to but I’m just not buying the hype anymore. He is the greatest American at BJJ but not in MMA.

Nothing Ever Changes When Nothing Ever Changes

by JasonFahQ on Sep 13, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

BJ has all the skill in the world

everything comes easy for him, he didnt have a hard life.

People like that NEED to be motivated……believe me.

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

champs get motivated all on their own

the mind is as important as the body and what you do with it. motivation is a skill, therefor he doesnt have all the skill in the world. champs are complete packages. woulda coulda shouldas when it comes to bj

by Egads on Sep 13, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well he obviously proved he meets your definition by winning belts in two
Divisions of the best mma promotion out there.

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 13, 2010 11:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

apparently hes lost that

i used to have a really good left hook, busted up my elbow, and now its gone

by Egads on Sep 13, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tell me? What does a man have to do to get some respect in your book? Never lose? You set some unattainable expectations my friend.

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 13, 2010 11:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Have you counted the number of championship rounds this man has under his belt?

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 13, 2010 11:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

im a huge gps fan

id even go so far as to say id kiss his ass. but bj fans all seem willing to stick their whole heads up bj’s. one article listed his belt record at 5-5-1. use whatever excuse you want for those losses but compare them to the current ww and mw champs records in belt fights. bj is good,really good, but not as great as you all want to believe he is.

by Egads on Sep 13, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

id even go so far as to say id kiss his ass.

oh come on now at least give me the ‘no homo’

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you really would do it than you are a homo.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL

by MBOW on Sep 14, 2010 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol!

"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.

by Jackanapes on Sep 14, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

A motivated Penn

is a BJ who lands a winning punch or gets a winning sub, an unmotivated Penn is one who doesnt land a winning punch or get a winning sub. For BJ fans, his losses have nothing to do with the skill or strategy of his opponent. They are the only fans who think that way. Truly amazing.

by Ade on Sep 14, 2010 4:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because there is truth to it.

When B.J. comes in punching his own faces he wins! The last two fights he looked like he didn’t want to be there at all! Being a fan or not, it was obvious to see. I am less of a fan than I use to be because of that. It’s hard to be a fan of a fighter that doesn’t give it his all and train like he wants to be champ. I’m not a fan of GSP, but at least you know as a fan that he will give it everything he has and trains like an animal. He is a student of the game and is always trying to improve. B.J. has all the talent in the world and has gotten far with it, but it’s just not good enough anymore. He has always had things handed to him and never had to work hard at anything and it shows.

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL

by MBOW on Sep 14, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

You beat me to it Pnch

youre a quick SOB

YESSSS! this is what ive been wanting to hear!!

LETS DO IT BABY!!!

(hey freenow, toodaloo muthafuckaaa)

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

not happening "muthafuckaaa"

BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.

by freenow82 on Sep 13, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

MMAFIGHTING

confirms BJ and Matt have agreed to fight!

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

This card needs a good co main event bj and huges would fit in nicely WAR HUGES

by malito3og3 on Sep 13, 2010 8:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

gerald harris

they need to stop putting him on the undercard against guys making their debuts and give him a tougher guy on the main card already

by Mooseherder on Sep 13, 2010 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

New years eve four man tourney

Matt v bj, then kos v gsp then winner takes all, wrong I know, but sounds good…..

by freedomthrtyfve on Sep 13, 2010 9:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

World War 3 anyone?

Another war, another match, but I am going to bank that #3 will end with Hughs on top.

by BRAVE LEGION on Sep 13, 2010 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it will go the same as the last one..

but without BJ getting the rib injury, and him continuing his embarrassing beatdown of Hughes until the ref has no choice but to stop the fight. That fight was so one sided before the injury, that I cannot see it going any other way, no matter how good Hughes has looked lately. A lot of people think BJ gassed in that fight, but anyone who has ever damaged their ribs should know differently. I bruised mine once by stupidly letting a barbell bounce of them while pressing. The pain from breathing in and out the following day, was unreal, I thought I was dying. I hope it isnt as one sided as I think it is going to be, and we get a really entertaining fight.

by Ade on Sep 14, 2010 4:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

This sucks id much rather see them fight someone else

Both guys should be fighting top guys in their division not each other.

If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!

by Khaos_Warrior on Sep 13, 2010 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I sure hope the BJ in that picture shows up.

To be the best you gotta be one crazy son of a bitch…and that’s the truth - BJ Penn

by BNF on Sep 13, 2010 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Some fucking intensity this time, would ya BJ?

To be the best you gotta be one crazy son of a bitch…and that’s the truth - BJ Penn

by BNF on Sep 13, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

BJ needs to train at Greg Jackson's

It’s as simple as that,,,,, BJ Pulls his head Lava STone structured Skull outta’ his lazy Hawaiian AsS and vist OLD man Couture to learn how to train a fatiguing aging Body…. and if u can’t beat ‘em BJ join in n’ take that HGH you say everyone that beats you is taking.

by THORAZINE on Sep 13, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Xtreme Couture is what ive been saying.

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would do jumping jacks if that happened.

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 13, 2010 11:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Or backflips

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 13, 2010 11:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

howa bout a ganor :D

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's where I want Rampage to go.

"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."

by Diceman on Sep 14, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

That would be great

but Rampage lacks the courage and humility.

by PetrozellisJab on Sep 14, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

BJ would have and ego since Maynard is training there.. at least Greg Jackson

Florian is part-time over there and BJ will have his hands full training with Guillard in the standup…. Steel Sharpens Steel though BJ’s ego might stop him there as well since GSP trains there. BJ’s needs to go somewhere they’ll kick his ass and his ego will survive… where in the hell is that?

by THORAZINE on Sep 14, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

BJ at Jackson?

Is that a real opinion or are you joking. If not you’re stupid. Do you not remember BJ of accusing Jackson and his noys of greasing GSP? No way he is welcome there

GO BIG, OR GO HOME!!!

by LOKIE on Sep 13, 2010 11:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Great Fight!

I hope this happens. I don’t really like BJ going up to 170lbs. But it will show if BJ has anything left!

by Brotherwolf on Sep 13, 2010 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Hughes will win this one.

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Sep 13, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

FUCK YEAHHH!!!!!!!!

BJ!! BJ!! BJ!! BJ!! BJ!!

Long live 'THE PRODIGY'

by PENNorDIE* on Sep 13, 2010 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Do you post under another name

then sign into this account when a BJ thread/comment pops up?

theres no way it coincidental timing every time. Either that or you read all the thread/comments and only comment on BJ.

Im going with my first assumption.

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol

She gets so much shit I don’t know why she posts at all.

by PetrozellisJab on Sep 13, 2010 10:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

REPLY TO ME BITCH

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont know how to rephrase it any more clear lol

and ok thats what i was asking.

SO do you read here often and only post for BJ news? WHY? and “because hes my favorite” is not an acceptable answer.

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes i checkout MMAMANIA everyday and read up on the news..

& yes i only comment on BJ’s Post<3

Long live 'THE PRODIGY'

by PENNorDIE* on Sep 13, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

but WHY is the question?

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

what are you a natural blonde?

you said

i only comment on BJ’s Post

I said

but WHY

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

sarah (or was it Smitty) if you read this

please GIF the guy dropping to one knee and cunt punching that dumb bitch…..

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

lmao right

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

This fight doesn't really tell me much

Regardless of who wins. If bj wins, Hughes is old and has only been taking hand picked opponents of late. If Hughes wins it will confirm to all the baby jay haters that bj was done after his first scrap with Edgar. I would rather bj tried to get back in the 155 title picture.

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 13, 2010 9:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

You are a jackass. Go straighten your hair little girl. If I told you once i told you a thousand times. . F off. You aren’t supposed to be posting here anymore pretty boy.

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 13, 2010 10:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

harsh

Loyality before Reality

by brendog on Sep 14, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Almeida is far from hand picked Deuce. Ricardo should have been the favorite and should have won.

by EvolutionMMA on Sep 14, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he resembles the baby jay that came out against Edgar I think you are right. I will still be cheering for bj. At the very least bj should gain some extra fans in this fight considering the prick that he is fighting.

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 13, 2010 10:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The way he came out against Edgar? Thats the way BJ always fights..

its edgars irritating style that nulified BJ’s skills. This is how the fight will play out… Hughes will be trying to take penn down but will have no success. Penn will land some shots on the feet and take the decision. This is a 3 round fight so we wont have to worry about BJ gassing. He went into the Championship rounds his last 4 fights

Long live 'THE PRODIGY'

by PENNorDIE* on Sep 13, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

the bj that fought frankie was way different then the one that had fights with florian and diego

If bj fights like that against matt then he will lose. He doesnt look the same and it looked pretty obvious to me

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by GOLDIGGAH on Sep 15, 2010 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

As much as I love BJ, I don’t think anyone should discredit Frankie’s victories. BJ could not figure out how to solve the puzzle before him and he got outworked and outclassed.

"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.

by Jackanapes on Sep 15, 2010 4:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Listen much little girl?

Stop trying to discuss anything with me. You suck. Bj has looked like crap. You are kidding yourself if you think Edgar is his kryptonite. Hughes is a bigger stronger wrestler than Edgar and Edgar had 0 problems taking bj down. That is NOT how bj always fights. Again, you are a jackass and the true definition of bitch fanboy. Honor your bet and get the hell off these boards.

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 13, 2010 10:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

STFU

Hughes won’t take him down? Yet the freakishly small Edgar has no problem doing it? Are you fucking high?

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 13, 2010 10:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

hughes hasn't been able to do it the first 2 times they fought

and I ythink BJ wins this fight fairly easy. he was dominating the second fight until he separated a rib

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by kevjack115 on Sep 13, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im a big hughes fan

and lost some BJ respect with all the crazy shit he was talking pre Edgar humbling him.

Ill be rooting for Hughes but will pick BJ in the pool.

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was the first two times they fought. And as I said above, if bj comes out like he did against Edgar Hughes will have no problem getting him down. If bj comes out intense like the bj I love he can take it. Stop agreeing with the lying little girl. You are better than that kev.

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 13, 2010 10:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm agreeing with me

and you guys give PB too hard a time!lol

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by kevjack115 on Sep 13, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

shes a dumbfuck

but if that pic is REALLY her, id give it to her forsure.

btw youre agreeing with you? shocker

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

if youd post on other things besides BJ

and not be so air headish

youd honestly get little to no shit

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

when you post ONLY on BJ

and rant and rave BJ how can you expect not to get bashed. then you post a picture that claims to be you.

take my advice above and you will catch no more flack.. Youve trolled here so long people here want to like you.

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

BAM!

Previously DrewMoney$$$ "banned from sbnation" ...

by DetroitDrew1980 on Sep 13, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys all deserve each other. It’s funny how someone as seemingly stupid as this PENNorDIE clown — whose posts I never read anyway — always seems to have one over all you other self-righteous idiots.

"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.

by Jackanapes on Sep 14, 2010 4:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck form. You guys keep hackin’ on her or him, just like you do with that other idiot, and then you complain about them when you’re just perpetuating their existence here. The only reason I know of that other fool and PennorDie is because everybody keeps going on about them. I never understood it. I suppose their idiocy is all the craze these days.

"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.

by Jackanapes on Sep 14, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Admittedly, she gets under my skin. Yes, I get a little worked up as I am a huge BJ fan and I get thrown in with this clown. This is the first time she has fessed up to the fact that she didn’t honor her bet. Now that she has, I have nothing left to say to her. So, just for you Jack, I will take your advice and ignore her going forward. Self-righteous idiot? A little strong there bud.

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 14, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well put, Deuce.

Yeah, you guys are darn right making me feel guilty now. Maybe I got worked up myself.

"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.

by Jackanapes on Sep 14, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's all good brother

I was at home, having a few drinks and I certainly got worked up. Shit happens. I try to have more of a level head with this stuff, but I fall victim to jackassery occasionally. Her and Danago kinda ruin the mania experience for me and sometimes I just can’t help myself. It is depressing that any and all BJ threads on mania are dominated by this fool. It makes it hard to be an out-of-the-closet BJ fan.

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 14, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

It makes it hard to be an out-of-the-closet BJ fan.

Haha! Yeah, they shame BJ with their antics. I’m also out of the closet in that regard.

On a lighter note, they’re like the radical, suicide bomber Muslims who do no favors for the Muslim faith and the other, good-natured Muslims (like Yusuf Islam/Cat Stevens) — not that I’m a Muslim or even remotely that way inclined.

They’re exactly that, they’re radicals. Haha.

Every so often a particular fighter gets the “crazies.” BJ gets them. Fedor gets them. And I think Brock gets them too (although they’re more mutated).

I’m a fan of all three fighters, but certainly not a radical.

"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.

by Jackanapes on Sep 14, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

pennordie > danago

Previously DrewMoney$$$ "banned from sbnation" ...

by DetroitDrew1980 on Sep 14, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

lying fanatic === lying escaped mental patient

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 14, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

danago would never admit to welching on a bet.

extreme fanboyism > pathological liar

Previously DrewMoney$$$ "banned from sbnation" ...

by DetroitDrew1980 on Sep 14, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot about that fact

Danabitch did the same thing and then said someone “hacked her account”. So I suppose you are right.

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 14, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

what are you the gospel man?

self righteous because i gave her advice? or the shit talking (which wasnt much?

Can i come to confession oh holy sir

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 14, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.

by Jackanapes on Sep 14, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dice

Did you get my email? :-)

by Dakatak on Sep 14, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is brutal...oh well, we'll run it back at some point. I've gotta change the pic from home, but I took off the "Duck Hunting" one in the meantime.

Admit it, you were worried for at least like 20 minutes.

The top 5 things I learned this weekend:
5) SEC "team speed" is O-VER-RA-TED
4) Orange and White will never look as good as Green and Yellow.
3) 102,000 people get awfully quiet when they choke on too much Duck.
2) The Vols would have had better luck playing checkers in their end zones than trying to stop the Ducks from getting in there.
1) I fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a Mormon when points are on the line! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!"

by Diceman on Sep 14, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heh, ya

right after the fumble on the kickoff I stressed for a minute.

by Dakatak on Sep 14, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Vols gave up. After that pick 6 it was a wrap. Not enough depth and a crappy QB. The Ducks showed their stuff in the 2nd half for sure.

The top 5 things I learned this weekend:
5) SEC "team speed" is O-VER-RA-TED
4) Orange and White will never look as good as Green and Yellow.
3) 102,000 people get awfully quiet when they choke on too much Duck.
2) The Vols would have had better luck playing checkers in their end zones than trying to stop the Ducks from getting in there.
1) I fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a Mormon when points are on the line! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!"

by Diceman on Sep 14, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a gambling man

Her very nature offends me.

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 13, 2010 10:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The thing about that is that Frankie didnt go for just the double.

When frankie didnt get the double he scrambled to diffrent positions throwing bj off balance

Long live 'THE PRODIGY'

by PENNorDIE* on Sep 13, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

So are you just going to continue ignoring the fact that you lost a bet and didn’t honor it? You are ok with your word meaning nothing?

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 13, 2010 10:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm a girl.

i dont honor bets (;

Long live 'THE PRODIGY'

by PENNorDIE* on Sep 13, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don’t qualify as a girl. More like a Succubus.

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 13, 2010 10:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

And yet you try to hide the fact that you are a lying piece of shit by creating a new account, huh PB?

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 13, 2010 10:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Don’t think anyone cares? Listen little girl because I have no reason to lie to you. You are nothing if your word means nothing. You pretty boy, pretty lala, Penn or die have a word that means absolutely shit. You will not go far in life going about things that way. Better hope your skinny ass is enough for you to get by, because your inner self is seriously lacking. You address me anymore and all
I will respond with is a resounding FUCK YOU

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 13, 2010 10:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

deuce the difference between hughes and edgar taking bj down is edgar is fast and always moving,changing angles and setting up takedowns,

hughes is extremely slow, though equally powerful to his slow speed, but he doesn’t set up a takedown well at all and that is what pennordie is trying to explain in a muchless intelligent way.

i guess i speak retard well? but i see it the same way edgar is bj’s kryptonite but as is gray maynard the way he has been fighting. at 170 bj doesn’t have to worry about a guy much faster than him so he can probably be more dominant at that weight sure he wont beat gsp but he wont beat edgar either, it takes a brain to understand how they setup there takedowns and how to avoid it and bj doesn’t have that, nor do i.

my sig might be gay but you're the dumbass that read it

by randy murders on Sep 14, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hughes is a prick

And I sometimes have difficulty figuring out who I dislike more, him or bj. But I don’t think bj can win this fight at this point. And Hughes looks like he’s got a fire under him again.

by PetrozellisJab on Sep 13, 2010 10:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Duece. Id normally side with you but if that pic in penn or dies profile is really her id hit it like a homerun in the ninth inning lol

GO BIG, OR GO HOME!!!

by LOKIE on Sep 13, 2010 11:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

FUCK YEAH!!!!!!

this is gonna be a war!!!!!!!!!

by killercam on Sep 13, 2010 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Terrible

Terrible terrible terrible

by KO Shrimp on Sep 13, 2010 10:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I think you meant turable, Charles.

Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.

by Deuce02 on Sep 13, 2010 10:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

tuuurible

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where's bj penn fan? thought he would be here by now.

"Either way hes probably not Gay but if he is thats one dangerous Fag"-the real ZACK

by nathang on Sep 13, 2010 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Guess that confirms Gomi-Guida

As far as this one, Hughes by wrestlefuck.

Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.

by Johnny WF on Sep 13, 2010 10:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

i like that too

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont think so.

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 13, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gomi is actually an excellent wrestler

Before he replaced his fists with titanium, he won with pure top control.

That, combined with Guida’s love of brawling, leads me to pick Gomi by TKO.

Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.

by Johnny WF on Sep 14, 2010 12:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

+ a huge reach and size advantage for Gomi.

He should outclass Guida with speed and technique.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic !

by RoBerto. on Sep 14, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

that speed and technique also translates into BIG firepower for Gomi.

I think he wins the hardest puncher award at LW.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic !

by RoBerto. on Sep 14, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I Hoped This Would Be A Trilogy

Awesome. Though I think Matt is the underdog here. BJ lost to Frankies speed and striking. Hughes has neither of those. No matter what, BJ will be in better condition than the last time they fought which isn’t good for Hughes. But you can never count that guy out of anything.

Shogun's knee will explode for the final time when Rashad shoots for the takedown.

by G Squat on Sep 13, 2010 11:50 PM EDT reply actions  

BJ wont win because hes mentally checked out of fighting

To get his belt taken and then talk about how much he RESTED only to get it taken again, there obviously isnt much that motivates him anymore. Big country breakfast takes this one.

Loyality before Reality

by brendog on Sep 14, 2010 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Hughes is gonna put another beating on bj

Bj is gonna come into this fight fat as ever and Hughes will finish him in the third again. Bj is a waste of talent, and Hughes seems to be trending up as of late. War paychecks.

by Conan the Barbarian on Sep 14, 2010 3:15 AM EDT reply actions  

When you’re done pulling, please clean up after yourself.

"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.

by Jackanapes on Sep 14, 2010 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

But really, I don’t like seeing either fighter lose. I would expect BJ to win though.

"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.

by Jackanapes on Sep 14, 2010 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then this will be easy for you.

Here it is, " HUghes is gonna beat the crap out of BJ Again! The only chance BJ has of winning is if he switches to Danago’s gym."

by Conan the Barbarian on Sep 14, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hell, I don’t know how fighter to choose for this fight. Hope Hughes will come in a great shape and with a smart plan. BJ has to prove he still loves fighting.

"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
''A man is not finished when he's defeated; he's finished when he quits'' Richard M. Nixon on Fedor's loss

by Eduardo Cruz on Sep 14, 2010 8:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Exactly!

This is probably the one fight out there that can get him motivated. If not than he is done! Sux bc physically he has a lot more left in him.

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL

by MBOW on Sep 14, 2010 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Motivated, Penn is the favorite. If he comes like a slowdown Jardine Hughes will kick his ass out.

"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
''A man is not finished when he's defeated; he's finished when he quits'' Richard M. Nixon on Fedor's loss

by Eduardo Cruz on Sep 14, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would love to see Matt Hughes kick BJ's ass!

 If BJ loses this fight he will retire. Just because BJ beat before doesnt mean he will do it again. BJ has no drive and Matt is becoming way nore active again. If they fight again I think Matt will destroy him, BJ is broken!

by HEELHOOK on Sep 14, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

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