Nate Marquardt: If you have a problem with guys taking you down ... learn how to wrestle
by Jesse Holland on Sep 13, 2010 12:52 PM EDT
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"I think it's a wrong mentality. You know, when I started in Mixed Martial Arts, when I first started watching it, the Jiu-Jitsu guys were beating everyone. So anyone who had a good Jiu-Jitsu would be able to take them down, to submit them or punch them on the ground and win the fight. From there, it went to guys who can stop the takedown, and get a knockout. Fighters like Chuck Liddell. Fighters like him were dominating the sport. So lately the wrestlers brought it back a little. I think it's the thing in Mixed Martial Arts, that sometimes the grapplers or the wrestlers are going to have an advantage, and sometimes it's the strikers. The way to keep yourself on the top of the game, is to be well-rounded. Not to neglect any part of your game. If you have a problem with guys taking you down, you have to defend the takedown and learn how to wrestle."
UFC middleweight contender Nate Marquardt doesn't subscribe to the ever-popular theory that wrestling is ruining mixed martial arts. "The Great" knows better than anyone after getting thoroughly dominated by Chael Sonnen at UFC 109 earlier this year. How much wrestling will come into play against muscular submission master Rousimar Palhares on Wednesday night in Austin?
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It’s not the takedowns that are the problem; it’s the 3-time All-America wrestlers who come out of college and straight into MMA that have no idea what to do once they get the takedown, aside from maintain position, that are the problem.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
thats not a problem, too many fans are just not mma fans
they dont appreciate wrestling. they all complain about how GSP takes guys down all the time, but yet, he’s always workin for position. if a wrestler maintains a position, the ref stands em up.
Using no way as way, having no limitation as limitation.
i think P - dub meant
That the guys who come straight over from college wrestling without even spending time at a local mma gym. They only know how to shoot in and keep there opponent down with here en there a punch. They dont know how to headkick legkick throw punch combo’s or jits they only know wrestling.
Wrestling is a beautiful thing if you mix it up with striking and if you know how to choke someone out.
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by robinhorobson on Sep 13, 2010 1:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The fans aren't the problem.
Many fans just want to see a match that is mixed martial arts and not just wrestling.
One of the problems is a faulty scoring system and the fighters who want to wrestle for 15-25 minutes just to take advantage of it.
groundhog day
BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 13, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
You have entered a world where reality, imagination, and energy drinks collide. A world
wheres ones dream come true and where others never materialize. A world where non title shot deserving brits dont complain about not being able to wrestle. A world where judges judge what they see not what they just saw on the replay. You have entered the MMA utopia. NEE NEE NEE NEE NEE NEE NEE NEE NEEEEEEE!
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
Wasn't this on the front page a couple days ago already? Otherwise it's some weird deja-vu I'm having
BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez
I'm not getting into this again...
cept to say Nate is right.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 13, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions
agreed
I haven’t been able to post for some time, so i’m seeing it for the first time. Glad to see it’s been addressed……Personally, i tend to gravitate toward the wrestlers and that is my point as well when people complain about wrestlers and the lack of action in their fights. Don’t get me wrong, i understand the system isn’t perfect, and there are fighters with wrestling skills that abuse the current system (ie. Huggy Bear) but there’s an answer….don’t get taken down.
The only solution i can see is to have referees that are adept at decipering the difference between dry humping and improving position to submit or deliver a beating. The octagon should be a “no humping” zone that results in immediate standup. This will always be difficult to manage because it is so subjective.
"Oh hell son, i was high that day. That doesn't make any sense at all, you can be second, third, fourth....hell, you can even be fifth" - Reese Bobby
Yes kg I agree
Scoring wise there is problems on the ground. A guy is awarded to many points for simply being the guy on top. This position should not be awarded for points as JJ artist prefer to be on their back in many cases and points should only be awarded to damage caused.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Yes, you might get credit in wrestling for “riding time”, but definitely not in MMA. Matt Hughes is a great example, especially when he had the belt. Matt would often use his wrestling, but he’d beat the piss out of his opponents from the top, whether he was mounted, in half guard or full guard. In most fights, GSP does the same thing…….but if you’re not delivering blows, or working to get from guard to mount, they gotta stand em up.
"Oh hell son, i was high that day. That doesn't make any sense at all, you can be second, third, fourth....hell, you can even be fifth" - Reese Bobby
Hasn't this already been posted? Wasn't this on the front page a couple of days ago? Weird.
Conan : You are known as a striker. Is that correct? Tell me what that means.
Chuck : Well I like to punch people, or kick them.
yep you are the 4th to notice it, so we are definitely not all crazy
BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.
It's not the same quote
It’s just the same argument/point of view presented in the last quote. Last time I think he directly responded to Dan Hardy.
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 13, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
well said nate!
he said it perfectly. the sport has gone through changes and those who were around to see those changes don’t realize that it’s just the way things have progressed.
by salt and battery on Sep 13, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions
+10 Nate
All this crying about getting beat by a wrestler was pissing me off. Yes there is problems with some wrestlers not doing anything on the ground once on the ground. Such as King Mo and Gegard. Being on top should not be considered a domiante position and points awarded, Gegard was clearly doing more damage from his back and simly holding position from top should not be awarded points. But take Sonnen him being on top should score many points for the offencive strikes and damage he has cause. As GSP has done for many of his fights.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
wasn't this just posted up a few days ago? wierd
Whens the sig rubber match David W-S? I need vengeance!
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LATE TAKEDOWN FTW
Did any1else see this post a couple days ago?
by d*locc on Sep 13, 2010 1:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Dude look up your in the Twilight zone.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
He says it best.
" the grapplers or the wrestlers"
Grappling is part of a martial art!
Wrestling is a sport!
Wrestling and BJJ are both individual sports.
Grappling encompasses both.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
off topic but
Josh Barnett Signed for strikeforce anyone see a NYE Fedor vs Barnett?!?!
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/9/13/1685522/josh-barnett-signs-with-strikeforce
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by Rampagelangford on Sep 13, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions
negative. M1 will avoid Josh.
Vitor is coming. Somebody better polish up that MW belt.
Okami = Lindland & Franklin
God I hope not
The last thing Fedor needs right now is a can. He has some options at SF, so no one can say “who was he supposed to fight” if he does take a can. SD, ya hear me?
Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.
Striker Dave
Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.
dont say it 3 times it will be like beetlejuce!
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
SD!
I want him to comment. He is entertaining.
Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.
Biggie Smalls, Biggie Smalls, Biggie Smalls
"Long shall we remember
He who walked the road of danger
Master of revenge
Death's no stranger
Blood and death lived on his sword
The god of war his only lord
Into the depths of hell
Go all he fell"
- Manowar hymn of the immortal warriors
by O damn he got caught on Sep 13, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
+1 Million
Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.
Yo fool what am I doing up in here!!! OH HAMBURGERS!!!!!
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
I like burnt orange. And Im down.
Vitor is coming. Somebody better polish up that MW belt.
Okami = Lindland & Franklin
^^This shit made me laugh^^
In the “it’s funny and true” kinda way, not the “you’re an idiot for posting that” kinda way.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
^^this made me laugh^^
Because sometimes overclarification can be as funny as is it necessary. Thanks
by PetrozellisJab on Sep 13, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
^^This made me laugh^^
because we might as well keep it going.
Not only does BJ Penn quit on his stool versus guys that are bigger than him...He gets tooled by guys that are SMALLER than him. BJ should just stick to jumping out of pools, not fighting. I shoulda listened to Ulf.
^^This made me laugh^^
Because i think up-arrows are silly.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Four other people did it first, and you go and insult me with a T-shirt? Dick.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
LOL!!! Dubs, he was waiting for you to do it.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
if marquardt is having trouble with wrastling i'm sending ric flair to correct it. woooo.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Sep 13, 2010 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
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