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Suga' vs Shogun: Will Rashad Evans knock out Mauricio Rua?

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"I don’t think there is really going to be anything easy when it comes to this fight. I think that he has found his rhythm. When he first got to the UFC he kind of struggled a little bit, had his though fights where he was trying to find his rhythm, but now he has found his rhythm and kind of reinvented himself and now it’s looking like the I’ll definitely have my hands full any way I decide to take this fight. I think I just have to go right at him. I think I can’t try to move around too much or try to get away from him because he will find me, because he is a very aggressive striker. So, I can be aggressive too ... I think there’s a possibility for me to knock him out, I mean that is what I hope to do. That would be my aim to try to knock him out, but you know if I catch him or something it would probably be off his aggression. I’ll see if I can capitalize on him coming in. I think for advantages and disadvantages it’s really hard to say, because styles make fights and having so much time off I don’t really know the kind of Rua I’m going to go against when I meet him and he doesn’t know who he’s going to go against. So, what the perceived advantages of me right now are, are not necessarily what they are going to be when I meet him in May."

Former UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Rashad Evans looks to reclaim the 205-pound belt when he clashes with reigning division champion Mauricio Rua in Spring 2011. "Suga" rebounded from the only loss of his career, a knockout to ex-champ Lyoto Machida, by taking back-to-back decision wins over Thiago Silva and "Rampage" Jackson. Did anything in those performances convince you the TUF 2 champ has the tools to flatten the Brazilian? Or is Rua going to send him back to the Spike TV airwaves?

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Shogun 3rd KO

Shogun will catch him. Rashad will dance for the first 2 rounds but eventually Shogun will catch him.

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by DJ Pullout on Sep 10, 2010 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Shogun..

Has no wrestling so Rashad will kick his ass for some rounds and crush him after he folds.

Triangles don't dodge Fedor.

by guyverbob on Sep 10, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMG..

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by xxBAxx816 on Sep 10, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got Shogun for the KO

Atleast I hope. He better be working on thaT takedown defense. RAshad Got Nothing for Him on the feet.

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by The real ZACK on Sep 10, 2010 11:10 AM EDT reply actions  

he is gonna wrestle, he can say all he want he is gonna wrestle !

And i really like rashad but he also got scared after the machida fight. I hope now that he has gone back to his wrestling roots that he will use his bjj skills

I like to see how he deals with shoguns sweeps from the bottom

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by robinhorobson on Sep 10, 2010 11:10 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Shogun by violence

Better cardio, striking, grappling, and gameplanning.
Get a hearse ready.

Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.

by Johnny WF on Sep 10, 2010 11:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

better cardio and gameplanning ?

Im not so sure about that, however he did figure out machida

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by robinhorobson on Sep 10, 2010 11:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Don't agree with the grappling.

Even though T.Sliva was “injured” he fustrated the man near to tears with the constant take downs and keeping him on his ass for the majority of the fight.

by Biscuitfrisky on Sep 10, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

well shogun has some crazy sweeps

I think rashad is gonna have a hard time to keep shogun on his back

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by robinhorobson on Sep 10, 2010 11:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Rashad

is full of shit

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by The real ZACK on Sep 10, 2010 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Que

Throw the damn towel gif*

by Biscuitfrisky on Sep 10, 2010 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed. Rashad will not try to strike for even a second.

The moment the fight starts, Shogun will get planted on his back, as I believe no-one at 205 stops Rashad’s shot if he fully goes for it.

Rashad’s problem is that Shogun is no Rampage. He will try sweeps and has an active guard. Also Shogun’s Jits is much better than Rashad’s and he has never been KO’d. So Sugar’s hope is that he can GSP him for 5 rounds and get that unanimous decision without being stopped. The problem is for that to happen he has to not gas, not get caught coming in with a knee, not get submitted.

Shogun (T)KO round 4.

BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.

by freenow82 on Sep 10, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really don't have alot of confidence in Shogun for this fight.

A healthy active Shogun could still have some problems with this fight, and Shogun coming off a long lay-off and knee surgery I don’t think has much of a chance. Rashad is a great MMA wrestler and I don’t think will have any problems putting Shogun on his back over and over. Also Rashad isn’t Kevin Randleman I don’t see him getting caught in a sub or swept with any kind of regularity. Shogun could catch him and turn his lights out that’s true but Shad ain’t got no bitch chin so I wouldn’t bet the bank on it.

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by doonerthesooner on Sep 10, 2010 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Long Lay-Offs

Seem to be the precusor to alot of disapointing returns to the octogon at the moment Page, Lesner (although he won)

by Biscuitfrisky on Sep 10, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

His chin isn't exactly the strongest either.

Machida, Silva and Rampage all jelly-legged Rashad. Granted, he managed to hold on in those occassions (minus the Machida fight), but the fact remains he still got badly rocked by each guy.
Shogun’s no Forrest or Tito; if he hits Rashad clean in the face, he’s gonna feel it.

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by ArlovsKang on Sep 10, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be surprised to see either guy win...

but if Rashad wins this, it ain’t gonna be by KO. Shogun’s taken clean shots from harder htiters than Rashad, and hasn’t been KO’d yet.
I could see Rashad out working Shogun by constantly taking him down; on the other hand, I could see Shogun stalking Rashad and brutalising his legs with kicks until he slows down and is vulnerable enough to be T/KO’d.
Prediction? Shogun by TKO/Decision.

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by ArlovsKang on Sep 10, 2010 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

no shogun hasn't taken clean shots from hard hitters.

If he did he would’ve been stopped. If Rashad hits him clean with his powershots it’s over and it’s the same for all fighters in every fight.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic !

by RoBerto. on Sep 10, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

If that was true

Do you think the Koreans Zombie’s fight would have gone to a dec?

by Biscuitfrisky on Sep 10, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha so true.

BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.

by freenow82 on Sep 10, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep, the striking was sloppy in that fight.

and u could see the swings coming from miles away.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic !

by RoBerto. on Sep 10, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.

by freenow82 on Sep 10, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually do see Rashad winning unfortunately,

probably a ground and pound victory 3rd or 4th round. Hoping Shogun can catch him.

by theworldismine on Sep 10, 2010 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

ground only...does he do any damage?

zero damage to Silva and little to Rampage

by HimLong on Sep 10, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't you know that Shogun has been stopped many times by TKO on the ground?

Oh wait…that NEVER happened. Rashad will not finish Shogun, but he has in my opinion an about 25% chance of winning by decision.

BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.

by freenow82 on Sep 10, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

if hes working with greg jackson

his ground and pound will only be improving. he did tko forrest on the ground by the way, someone who also dominated shogun on the ground

by theworldismine on Sep 10, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is not working with greg jackson and hasn't for a while. at least that's what ANS said.

Shogun hasn’t been TKO’d and Rashad’s only submission win came in his first fight ever against a guy who is now 43-46. I don’t see Rashad ever finishing Shogun.

BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.

by freenow82 on Sep 10, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

this fight is a recipe for disaster for shogun. another knee injury, a long layoff, one of the best wrestlers in the division.

i love rashad as an underdog in this. Learn from the page fight everyone, rashad’s a smart fighter from a good camp and he will wrestle his way to his second championship.

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by DetroitDrew1980 on Sep 10, 2010 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

agreed

It all depends on which ShoGUn showes up. And if history showes us anything a ShoGun coming off a long lay off and surgery/rehab is not a ShoGun to bet on. Not to mention he wont be back at 100% where he was, no way he could be.

Sadly, Rashad via decision.

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by *Californication* on Sep 10, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

not sure.

not over there much and never seen/talked to that poster. Was intro a wrasslin fan?

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by *Californication* on Sep 10, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

Although Shogun as shown that he really is dangerous everywhere, I think Rashad has the tools to beat him. Shogun has shown since Coleman, that he’s committed to training but I think it will be very difficult to get his cardio back to form after another knee surgery. I’m taking Rashad by UD. But the revolving 205 belt will change hands again shortly after. I think Shogun is kryptonite for Machida, Rashad is for Shogun, and Machida is for Rashad, and Bones is Doomsday.

by PetrozellisJab on Sep 10, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

The knee is the only issue.. Rashad sucks and if Shogun was healthy it wouldn’t last long and still might not.. He basically got knocked out in the 3rd round of his last two fights…

by bobncc98 on Sep 10, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm writing this down bob

So don’t go picking Rashad two days before the event.

by PetrozellisJab on Sep 10, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will never pick Rashad to beat Shogun..I just think the knee surgery is the only thing that makes this fight even watchable…

by bobncc98 on Sep 10, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just busting your balls

You really don’t think this fight is watchable with a 100% Shogun? I think it’s a great fight, but I’m also a Rashad fan.

by PetrozellisJab on Sep 10, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it would look very similar to the Machida v rashad fight and probably still will look that way… But i hate rashad…

by bobncc98 on Sep 10, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

ShoGun has always been commited

he just has no knees which lead to surgeries, rehab, and longggggg layoff

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 10, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody likes my Superman analogy?

That’s it, I’m going back to the boards at Superherohype.com

by PetrozellisJab on Sep 10, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

no not really

because its not Rashad being ShoGuns kryptonite but rather ShoGun having to deal with the aforementioned issues.

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
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by *Californication* on Sep 10, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Somebody had to do it.

I bet Rashad has this next to his mirror and it probably motivates the hell out of him.

by PetrozellisJab on Sep 10, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love that picture

He must look at it and think Botox on my crinkly ass forehead if I get FOTN

by Biscuitfrisky on Sep 10, 2010 2:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think a KO is Shads only chance @ winning this 1.

He’s guna have 2 strike with shogun cuz if it hits the ground he’s getting submited! Lay n pray won’t work against shogun his jits is 2 gud.

by d*locc on Sep 10, 2010 1:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Bitch evans is quite the pussy

Not fighting for a whole year…

UFC should never ever promise a guy a titleshot when the champ is injuried.

by Lester The Pimp on Sep 10, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree.

BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.

by freenow82 on Sep 10, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see Shogun win but,

Shogun has never had great take down defense. Rashad has a ton of speed too. I see Rashad doing what Rashad does best…take down, blanket, punches, stand up, rinse and repeat. Hopefully Shogun can catch him with a nice knee on one of those shots.

by Gurthee on Sep 10, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

jay, can I get your attention for a moment?

Don’t mean to temporarily jack this thread but I need to clear something up with you. This reply you made toward me in the Velasquez blog was pure bullsh*t :

You also said “if existing is your source of pride, there is no reason to be proud” I’m paraphrasing of course but…

The jews that survived the holocaust have nothing to be proud of?

The Iraqis that Aren’t bombing American troops have nothing to be proud of their country for? You are throwing the baby out with the bath water here, my friend. You are making generalizations about an entire race based on what a few trouble makers do.

That’s the oldest form of racism.

by jay. on Sep 9, 2010 1:44 PM PDT

It was bullsh*t ‘cause you failed to realize that it was CONAN THE BARBARIAN who said that quote(which I illustrated in bold) and I’m pissed off with you because of that. Not like I give a crap what other people tell you but I don’t like it when I take the brunt of something that should be directed toward them.

Learn to recognize who says what in the future, genius. Okay?

That, or get some Glasses.

(dumbass.)

oh and Shogun would Destroy Evan’s little bitch-ass.

by BrockRocks on Sep 10, 2010 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Conan is the man.

And Evans takes this fight I don’t see how Shogun is gonna be able to stop him.

Ride the Tiger!

by doonerthesooner on Sep 10, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brock

That thread was really long. If I had pressed reply to the actual post I was talking to it would have dropped my post down near the bottom of the conversation. I pressed reply to your post because it was in the right spot…

I wasn’t talking to you. I was talking to Conan(the guy I was quoting). Sorry if it got confusing, but sometimes I press reply in weird spots just so my post is in a better spot.

Sorry dude, I hope I didn’t get you too riled up, that post wasn’t meant for you.

by jay. on Sep 10, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah! another guy who breaks rule #17b!

BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.

by freenow82 on Sep 10, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

I play by my own rules, nobody elses, not even my own.

by jay. on Sep 10, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha I love family guy

BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.

by freenow82 on Sep 10, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

peter is the funniest fat man on TV

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by The real ZACK on Sep 10, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Homer is up there too.

BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.

by freenow82 on Sep 10, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I pressed reply to your post because it was in the right spot…

But Conan would’ve ignored it ‘cause it wasn’t directed toward him.

You could’ve quoted his crap like I just did above….

by BrockRocks on Sep 10, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That quote thing doesn't always work for me. I'm old and computers scare me.

Whenever I try that quote thing it quotes my entire post.

From now on if I am replying to someone I’m not talking to I will put the recipients name in my post.

Seriously, it was a misunderstanding.

by jay. on Sep 10, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

You Guys Are High.

Shogun wont beat Rashad. You know that. He’s certainly not submitting him. Quit acting like he has awesome JJ. He knebarred Randleman. Thats it. And Rashad has never been submitted. Shogun could only win on the feet. Rashad could win on the feet or on the ground. We all know Rashad is gonna take him down and pound the shit outta him. You can hope for something else all you want but there’s no avoiding the inevitable.

Shogun's knee will explode for the final time when Rashad shoots for the takedown.

by G Squat on Sep 10, 2010 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

he obviously doesn't need his jiu-jitsu much since 16 out of his 19 wins came by KO.

He has won JJ tournaments before and uses his JJ mostly defensively. I can’t wait for Shogun to do this to GayShad:

I just love posting this!

BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.

by freenow82 on Sep 10, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

high, huh?
Shogun wont beat Rashad. You know that.

O RLY??

by BrockRocks on Sep 10, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

two in one thread?

-It's Better To Be Judged By Twelve Than Carried By Six-
(In the name of the SouthCaliStunNa, amen)

by *Californication* on Sep 10, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's just too beatiful

BJ Penn is the biggest waste of talent in MMA history. Like usual, my pick was wrong and I blame a certain pudgy Hawaiin for my own short comings when it comes to talent selection. As it stands BZ – 3 Freenow82 – 1.

by freenow82 on Sep 10, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rashad is no elite striker. Shogun is. Shogun will out work him, he will keep it at a distance with kicks and he will keep him honest with knees and fast hands. Rashad has good movement sure but so does Machida. Look where that got him. Only ring rust would beat Shogun in the fight when it comes to striking. Rashad will win if he sticks to set up -TD. If he tries to trade then Shogun will win.

by EvolutionMMA on Sep 10, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

^^^ This is true..

but if Gun fights a smart fight he’ll stick to bouncing around the outside picking his shots and blast away with leg kicks to make Rashads shot not existent. I could see him turning up the pace in the 3-4 rounds to finally put “Suga” away for good. That’s IF Shogun comes in shape.

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by xxBAxx816 on Sep 10, 2010 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Leg kicks against Rashad will have him on his back and eating punches, Shogun has no answer for his wrestling even at 100% this is the last guy Rua wants to face because his title reigns ends next year.

"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
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by Nightwhistler on Sep 10, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

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