Ed Soares: Chael Sonnen couldn't finish Anderson Silva -- why should he get a rematch?
by Jesse Holland on Aug 9, 2010 9:59 AM EDT
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"[Anderson] showed what a champion is made of. He fought through all of that adversity and through all of the things that were going on in there and he stayed focus and never gave up and that's the heart of a champion ... Once he tapped, Chael kept fighting. He didn't let go because he wasn't sure of what was going on. He wasn't going to give that position or submission up until he was sure. Once again, Chael tried to deny that he tapped until he told the ref, 'I believe you,' it's like, come on dude, that's the same shit you did with Filho and Babalu. If you're going to tap, then tap ... I mean, I don't necessarily think an immediate rematch is legitimate. It's not like he won by decision. You got submitted, man. Anderson got a few bumps and bruises, but let's be realistic, you're on a guy 23 minutes and you couldn't finish him? Why should he get a rematch?"
Count Ed Soares among the people not excited to see "Silva vs. Sonnen 2" after his top fighter, UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva, survived a 23-minute beatdown at the hands of Chael Sonnen at UFC 117 last Saturday night in Oakland. Soares believes it's an open and shut case based on the fact that Silva finished the fight -- but fans may want to see another go-round simply because no one has ever dominated the Brazilian the way Sonnen did. How about it fight fans, Silva vs. Belfort -- or Sonnen? What gets your PPV dollars in early 2011?
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welll.....
its kinda the truth lol 23 mins without even really puttin a scratch on anderson
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Except the two times Andy had his legs turn to jello.
Or the 10-1 outscoring he achieved in the first 23 minutes. AS is scared.
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
i would have loved to see your face when anderson won
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I knew it was gonna happen sooner or later. Didn't think it would take AS 23 minutes to try something instead of laying there getting his head bashed in.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Truly Elite champions can choose when they feel like winning.
How do you know that wasn’t the plan? Everyone was mad at him for dancing with the Maia so he let himself get beat up to please all clowns that were moaning for months then just subs him. There were so many open positions for armbars and triangles in every rounds, i figured he just wanted to build drama or the injury was more of pain in the ass than he thought.
Big Nog for Life
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 9, 2010 10:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would go with Sonnen getting tired and Silva having a ton of heart and skill.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
(please insert tongue-in-cheek comment)
Really??
Silva was on queer street after the left hook (?) in the first. No one is THAT good, that it was planned that way.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
No, but I think he planned on making this a fight, which part of his plan was to ride it out and wait for an opening.
Naw, man. I will give Sonnen for having a great game plan. He did his best and it showed.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Gameplan?
Chael’s not a strategic type of fighter. He has only one gameplan for everyone. An andy without fucked up ribs would have put that on him in rd 2. Which is what will happen in the rematch.
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 9, 2010 10:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you're on a guy 23 minutes and you couldn't finish him? Why should he get a rematch?"
I think he basically answers his own question. Beating the champ for 23 minutes is a good reason for a rematch.
by naturalshadow on Aug 9, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
NNR you’ve always been delusional about Silva and I see this hasn’t changed, even after he was horribly exposed. Sonnen stays chest on chest for 2 more minutes in that fight you have a new MW champion and this conversation is moot. Soares is just protecting Silva and dodging comp because he knows Silva will lose the rematch. If there was EVER an instance of fight ducking this is it.
Goldberg on Leben: One thing's for sure--he really did break that door on the Ultimate Fighter.
Rogan: uh...yeah.
Time for Silva to duck him for another four years
"I like being punched... I like... punchin'" ~Gray Maynard
"A black belt only covers two inches of your ass, you have to cover the rest" ~Royce Gracie
Chael Sonnen shocks the world at UFC 117
"I don't work submissions, not because I'm trying to prove anything, but frankly I'm just not very good at them" ~Chael Sonnen
You guys keep lining them up and he keeps
on subbing and knocking them out. When the rematch happens you’ll see that it’s going to be short and brutal.
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 9, 2010 12:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ya your right silva looked tip top last night
lolololololololololol
Hey you wanna talk crack pipe
yet am not the one bashing the winner or praising the fake tapper who supposedly would do anything to get out once cornered. Yep crack pipe alright. haha!!!!
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Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 9, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Silva won and Sonnen lost! Get over it haters!!!!!
Such fn babies you all are! Are rematch? For what? It wasn’t a close decision! He fn got submitted! End of story! He couldn’t finish Silva and never will! I’m just going to laugh at all of you haters for the rest of the day.
FEDOR WON'T FIGHT ANYONE IN THE TOP 5 EVER AGAIN !!!
HA
Silva looked awesome Saturday. He’s the best.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
You're both nuts.
Silva was treated like a Pinata…..He looked like crap.
Silva got LUCKY.
LUCKY
My post was sarcasm aimed at MBOW
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Chael Said The Game Plan Was Too
Go in there put Anderson on his back and drive a hole through his face. 5 Takedowns from a Title.
He executed that game plan perfectly up until the triangle.
by AintNoSunshine on Aug 9, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah Silva is just like rocky balboa
im sure right before the triangle ed soares just yelled out “FINISH HIM!!!” and that was his cue to submit him
My P4P Top 5:
1) GSP 2) Aldo 3) A. Silva 4)Shogun 5) Fedor
or the multiple lumps on his faces
i would like to see his face now because he did get pummelled regardless of any cuts/scratches or blood. he was beaten up pretty good
My P4P Top 5:
1) GSP 2) Aldo 3) A. Silva 4)Shogun 5) Fedor
He Didnt Sleep Last Night
I know his head was ringing. Probably still is.
by AintNoSunshine on Aug 9, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
slip
punch didn’t even graze him.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 9, 2010 10:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He missed the punch for sure. Nice gif.
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by Eduardo Cruz on Aug 9, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
This one was later...
He was wobbled much earlier cleanly, I think near the end of the first round?
Na, he wasn't. You believe everything Joe and Goldy say? LOL
FEDOR WON'T FIGHT ANYONE IN THE TOP 5 EVER AGAIN !!!
That gif is from round 5. Do you have one from the first round?
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
I am a HUGE Anderson Fan
and when Chael rocked him and nearly dropped him I was going crazy that was a once in a lifetime MMA feeling
by AintNoSunshine on Aug 9, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
AS is absolutely scared
He knows he doesn’t have the answers and knows he would take another beating.
I don’t blame him but I would love to see the upset shake things up a bit.
Yep, Jay, they are playing dodgeball! Silava may have won the match, but Sonnen won the fight! With all due respect tp the Maniacs that are refusing an istant rematch, it’s only because they dont like Chael and they know what happens in a rematch! AS WILL LOSE! He will come in scared of losing to Sonnen and it will mess his mental game up! After a fight like that, why wouldnt anyone wanna see em go at it again? Sonnen has Andersons number! Plain and simple! And next time they meet, he’s gonna finish dialing it!
by Danas A Crossdresser on Aug 9, 2010 1:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Do you know why people tap?
Jujitsu wasn’t developed for showcases dumb ass. The goal of any of those moves is too cripple or kill! To say he won the fight is to say that getting punched and laid on is preferable to fight ending, long term real life changing/ ending damage.
FWI…If someone gets you in a triangle choke and refuses to let go, you die.
Yep, Jay, they are playing dodgeball! Silava may have won the match, but Sonnen won the fight! With all due respect tp the Maniacs that are refusing an istant rematch, it’s only because they dont like Chael and they know what happens in a rematch! AS WILL LOSE! He will come in scared of losing to Sonnen and it will mess his mental game up! After a fight like that, why wouldnt anyone wanna see em go at it again? Sonnen has Andersons number! Plain and simple! And next time they meet, he’s gonna finish dialing it!
by Danas A Crossdresser on Aug 9, 2010 1:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep, Jay, they are playing dodgeball! Silava may have won the match, but Sonnen won the fight! With all due respect tp the Maniacs that are refusing an istant rematch, it’s only because they dont like Chael and they know what happens in a rematch! AS WILL LOSE! He will come in scared of losing to Sonnen and it will mess his mental game up! After a fight like that, why wouldnt anyone wanna see em go at it again? Sonnen has Andersons number! Plain and simple! And next time they meet, he’s gonna finish dialing it!
by Danas A Crossdresser on Aug 9, 2010 1:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep, Jay, they are playing dodgeball! Silava may have won the match, but Sonnen won the fight! With all due respect tp the Maniacs that are refusing an istant rematch, it’s only because they dont like Chael and they know what happens in a rematch! AS WILL LOSE! He will come in scared of losing to Sonnen and it will mess his mental game up! After a fight like that, why wouldnt anyone wanna see em go at it again? Sonnen has Andersons number! Plain and simple! And next time they meet, he’s gonna finish dialing it!
by Danas A Crossdresser on Aug 9, 2010 1:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
by finish dialing it
do you mean get subbed again? Chael has consistently proven that he gets subbed by guys with good jits. I don’t really see it going much different. Chael will either get TKO’d early, or get tired again and get subbed. No controversy. He tapped. I don’t care how “close” he came. This isn’t horseshoes. Close, controversial decision, yes, agree with an instant rematch. Fight where a dude tapped. Work your way back up. Maybe Chael will learn something from this, namely, sub defense.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Holy shit! I dont know how that posted 4 times! lol
I think Chael knows he can beat AS and would be less careless 2nd time around! However, AS could ko him, i guess! But, he didn’t exactly outshine Chael on the feet! And the whole “my rib was ouchie” thing, true or not, didnt stop AS from throwing vicious strikes when he was able to! He just didnt get that many chances BECAUSE Sonnen went after him, grabbed him, and BEAT HIS ASS and made him look like a third grade bitch! Props to AS for surviving! Tough dude! He took that ass whippin’ lile a man! But, at the end of the day, it was still a bad ass whipping!
by Danas A Crossdresser on Aug 9, 2010 4:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and Sonnen still lost...
I agree with Deuce, A decisive finish doesn’t warrant an immediate rematch. Let Chael fight another good jits guy and then if he wins without getting subbed he can have another crack at Silva.
I personally believe Vitor beats Silva anyway, I’m not a fan of either of these guys, there is just something telling me that Vitor’s hand skills with his speed and power are going to catch Silva.
I think Vitors skills play right into the spiders web!
AS will finish him in the first! And im not saying they SHOULD give CHael an instant rematch! Im saying i would like to see it!
by Danas A Crossdresser on Aug 9, 2010 6:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
besides, AS should wanna second shot at doing better!
Why not? Why does he care who he fights at this point? He’s bitchslapped everybody until Chael came along, and bitchslapped him! Chael is the ONLY fighter he has anything to prove against! And regardless of what some may say, he DOES need to prove he can beat Chael despite his good fortune of being able to capitalize on one mistake in a 20+ minute fight! A true champ would want to be sure! And i believe AS is a true champ! But, Soares is a bitch!
by Danas A Crossdresser on Aug 9, 2010 6:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
needs to prove if he can beat Chael? I don't think we watched the same fight.
He showed why he was a true champ.. He had his opportunity to finish the fight and did.. That defines a champion to me at least. Great heart , and a good finish.
Theres a thin line between beating someone and winning! It might be too “deep” of thinking for some to grasp. But the line can exist! And does here! AS is a good champion! He does have heart! But, you gotta admit, Chael made hom look like an amateur for over 4 rnds! Then, Chael beat himself by becoming overzealous! He could’ve ran the whole 5th rnd like Silva had been doing lately! But, he kept after Silva! Kept beatong on him until he fed him a sub! Props to Silva for taking Advantage! Chael woll be champion soon, though!
by Danas A Crossdresser on Aug 10, 2010 2:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good fortune?
Good fortune in the fight game amounts to your opponent slipping, falling, and knocking himself unconscious. That’s about it.
There are no such things as lucky punches or, for god sakes, lucky Jujitsu triangle chokes from your back against an Olympic level wrestler while getting punched in the face for half an hour.
WTF?!?
dave, take off your Silva Glasses for a sec...
Silva got LUCKY.
LUCKY in the end when Chael had a brainfart….It happens.
If anything, Chael proved that HE’S THE “BEST” OF THE TWO in that Ring that night. He said in the Hype-up video leading up to the fight, in regards to Silva : “He is an excellent fighter….But I am the Best!” AND HE PROVED IT.
Silva kept his title but he merely ESCAPED with it. He knows that Sonnen OWNS his ass. And he shouldn’t be satisfied until he gets a rematch to re-establish his dominance.
One was a slip
Even chael said he slipped, rogan too. And when he got “rocked” in the first round he stood up dropped his hands, stuck his chin out and let sonnen hit him in the face like 4 times I don’t think he was rocked too badly…but sonnen did freaking man handle the dude. I’d rather see vitor fight him tho. Rather see a guarantee fight finished than 25 more minutes of chael laying on silva for a possible decision
by soupdz28 on Aug 10, 2010 4:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
When will medical suspensions be released?
I’d like to see how long silva is out for and if they say anything about injures ribs in it. Also chael is definately out for a while with the grand canyon chiseled into his brow.
by soupdz28 on Aug 10, 2010 7:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd like to see a rematch.
I think Chael deserves it.
by JimmieGreens on Aug 9, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
He deserves it? By your measures we would see a shit load of rematches!
FEDOR WON'T FIGHT ANYONE IN THE TOP 5 EVER AGAIN !!!
Chael lacks power.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
''A man is not finished when he's defeated; he's finished when he quits'' Richard M. Nixon on Fedor's loss
I don’t know if it’s that or if Silva is superhuman. He barely had a scratch on him after the fight and he was taking some HEAVY shots there. I remember one really heavy shot where Rogan and everyone in the room I was in was like ‘ooooooh’.
by HappyLittleTreez on Aug 9, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
based on the fact
That Chael has more decision victories than Fitch, Id say its a fact he has no finishing power.
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What he is saying is not off base.. Chael came with his best effort and couldn’t win, why would he get a rematch? There was no controversy, no decision that the judges could mess up… Ed Soares says some crazy stuff..But he is right on the money here.. As much as I’d love to see a rematch he has to beat someone else first…
Problem is...
Who? Vitor would be the most obvious to me. If not him, then a rematch. I can’t agree with a Vitor title shot coming off surgery and long layoff. Against the PFP best fighter in the world, he would be at a serious disadvantage. I don’t disagree with Soares, however, it’s not like there’s a long line of contenders waiting in the wings. I definately disagreed with the BJ Penn rematch. There’s a long list of guys who are contenders in that weight class.
Nobody
Gets immediate rematches. Unless you are a long time champion, I don’t see how you can give any ‘challenger’ an immediate rematch if they lose the 1st time to a champ.
Whooooooopppssssss
You must have missed the Shogun/Machida saga. Go ahead and change your story if you’d like. LOL
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Ed, your pre-fight analysis couldn't have been more wrong
I thought Chael wouldn’t be able to stand with AS? Almost knocked him out at least twice. Cheal has more power standing than AS does, obviously.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
If Chael had more power than Silva ... it would have been a KO victory for Sonnen, right?
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
No
AS has a good chin.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I think Silva has a great chin. Silva is arrogant - yes. Silva got dominated - yes. He still won by a finish. I know it kills you because you hate Silva but no rematch. Now you know how I felt when Brock beat Carwin. :)
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Silva will probably get Vitor or Okami, maybe both then when Chael's up for his shot again
Anderson will come out with the retirement speech.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Why give Okami a fight before Chael though?
Chael TRUCKED him already.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I'm telling you...
They will be ducking Sonnen hard in the future.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I think its time for GSP - Silva. Fuck the rest.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Seriously
That is all I was thinking that whole fight. If Chael Friggin Sonnen can put that kind of whooping on AS, you have think Georges was sitting there thinking, GD, I need to go up.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Chael is a tough SOB and gave GSP's partner MArquart the working of his life too
GSP vs. Sonnen winner gets Silva?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
That wouldn't be that bad of an idea
other than there just aren’t any fights for Andy at 185. With Shields coming over, it makes it tough to have GSP take any fight other than a title fight at 185. If Kamp beats Shields, I like your idea better.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Silva does it at 205 are you saying GSP is not as good as Silva?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I know
Any idiot can see that from a mile away. I hate Ed Soares.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
For what?
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Out sig bet you tard.........
You had Hughes over Almeida. Sig and Profile pic for 2 weeks. Damn my honest personality :-(
O_o
Your new pic will be this:
And your sig will say :
“Matt Hughes is the greatest welter weight of all time; I would lick the sweat off his hairy chest after a grueling work out if I could. The only person I look up to more than Matt Hughes is Jay; he’s trying patiently to teach me about MMA, being as I don’t know shit about the sport. Thanks Jay, you are my hero and one hell of a Canadian.”
There ya go Jay, I had to step in and help you out there buddy. Enjoy Dragon.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
OD nailed it.
Throw that shit up for a week Dragon. Good work OD.
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Wow really??
I must say I am dissappointed, I thought you would be original. O well Shruggs shoulders
O_o
The last man to beat Silva???
Okay it was by an illegal blow, but Dana could get some mileage out of the avenge a loss angle
beating Munoz should not get ANYONE a title shot, EVER. IMHO.
Okami needs at least to beat a top 10 guy.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Okami was in line for a title shot a few years ago before injuries set him back. I don’t have a problem with Okami getting a shot now.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
I suppose he deserves it.
He is better at staying out of subs, and can probably wrestle AS to the ground too.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
meh
let Silva take a fight at 205. Let GSP finish off KOS, then move up. F Shields.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I think either Belfort or Okami for his next match up.
Just to keep it fresh. I personally would like to see the Vitor fight. Silva may not have to worry about a take down, but if Sonnen could touch him, I think Belfort could as well.
Most definately Sonnen should be up for a rematch before anybody else gets a rematch though.
It would be my honor to be your new stepfather.
One fight more for each and if you both win then rematch
He deserves it for sure, I would think he hit AS more in this fight than AS has been hit in nearly all his past 11 fights. He dominated for 4.5 rounds, dropped him, was the aggressor for the entire fight etc etc.
I don't see
Anderson as arrogant. Confident, yes, with good reason. Cocky, implies boastful and piousness and I just don’t see that from him
Not arrogant? Have you watched his last few fights!
He is as arrogant a prick as they come.
by Conan the Barbarian on Aug 14, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Bit of both
Silva took some big shots on the chin when he first got caught and just dropped his hands (kinda like a leben zombie moment), but a genuine big hitter like Belfort would have sparked Silva out there I believe.
That's fair.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I agree. I kept thinking that Sonnen must not have much power behind those shots, because if he did, Silva would have been out. I think Silva felt his power, didn’t think he had much and just sat back and waited for an opportunity. I don’t think he could deal with the wrestling, but Sonnen lacks power in his punches obviously. A harder puncher would have taken Silva out with some of those same shots.
Rematch is still should happen
No one push AS like he has, and getting a sub in the last 2 minutes of a 25 minutes fight. Isn’t a dominte win, i think sliva doesn’t want to fight him again. Also some just needs to talk sense in to sonnen. He won 4 outta 5 rounds. His corner should have told him to run.
like AS did after the 3rd. in his last fight
I’m with you on the rematch in this case. In my opinion, a rematch is warranted in any sport when the competition is high level on both sides and the outcome could have gone either way. That being said, the UFC seems to be making a habit out of immediate rematches lately (machida, penn, etc…) I don’t think it makes sense unless the fight was exceptional (such as this fight). I didn’t think the Machida fight nor the Penn fight warranted an immediate rematch. They were close, but not exceptional in my opinion.
Penn and Machida
Were the champions. In the case of AS and Penn, long time champions. Challengers don’t get immediate rematches, and they shouldn’t.
Should Carwin get the rematch? He dominated Brock but still got subbed at the end. Just curious.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
sum1 asked jay that in this thread and got called a dumbfuck for even comparing the 2
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There are 3 or 4 fighters that Brock can fight before a rematch
AS had NOBODY. The two situations have nothing to do with each other.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
But the fights do.
both were getting their asses kicked and yet, were able to submit the other guy. Can’t argue with that.
Facebook is for gays!!!
The fights are exactly the same IMO
But there is no reason for a Carwin/Brock rematch yet because there’s other fighters for both of them to fight.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
How about because Chael kicked Silva’s ass for 23 minutes, as opposed to three minutes for Carwin?
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Same scenario - different time frame. You bang a hot black chick, a hot white chick or a hot asian chick? What's the difference? You are still banging a hot chick.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Ha! That's the urban myth.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
The fights aren't the same, car win whooped ass for one round and gassed horribly
Sonnen put on a clinic for 4.5 rounds and gave the champ the onlytough fight he has ever had in the ufc. Rematch!
by Conan the Barbarian on Aug 14, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Shutup OJR!
Any idiot can see brock was playing possum waiting for the appropriate time to strike ;-)
Carwin dominated for 5 mins
It’s not the same imo when you get dominated for 22-23 minutes.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Plus there are other worthy contenders in line. Nothing for Silva in this case. This fight just makes sense at this point in time. If there were 2-3 other guys in the wings, I would say next man up and earn your rematch.
Slim - I agree about the worthy contenders - line up GSP - Silva after the Kos match.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Now you’re talking! After this fight, and how wrestling dominated the fight, you have to think it has changed people’s minds about GSP’s chances in a superfight.
Yes
And also my mind on the P4P garbage. GSP has to be ranked higher, even if AS won.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Same concept - different time frame. Championship fight, the guy winning the fight gets tired and gets subbed by the champion who showed a ton of heart. I don't see a difference at all. (And I hate giving Brock credit).
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-Stephen King
I agree with you, but at the same time, do you really want to see a rusty Belfort get handled, or a boring Okami fight, or a Marquart rematch?
I prefer Okami getting a shot. He might very well take down and submit Silva. And I am a Silva fan.
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-Stephen King
when was the last time okami submitted anybody?
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Does that matter? Its MMA, anything can happen. Do you see Sonnen being able to replicate his performance? I don't.
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-Stephen King
How does beating Munoz get you a title shot?
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It does not. We are obviously scraping the bottom of the barrel. Same scenario as Hardy - GSP, I suppose.
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OJ
You don’t think Chael could do the same again? I think a rematch would look identical, hopefully without the sub at the end.
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I think Silva trains TDD like crazy and keeps his hands up. Different fight, IMO.
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-Stephen King
He'll never learn enough TDD to stop Chael
IMO
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I think he will learn enough to make it harder than their first fight - that much is certain. Enough to affect the rematch if there is one.
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-Stephen King
I actually agree with Jay here, sorry OJ
The thing is Andy will not be able to set up his top game because he will have to worry about getting taken down. So there goes several of Andy’s kicks.
Additionally, since Sonnen won’t allow Andy to get into a rhythum I don’t see how Andy will be able to keep this standing. IMO
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-Aldous Snow
Agreed on that. Sonnen has shown his cards now, Silva is multi-dimensional. We won’t see the same Silva, but most likely the same Sonnen.
Sonnen won't change, we know that.
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AS
Will never outgrapple a top wrestler. That is also a given. Nothing he does will make him good enough to stop take downs from Chael in a rematch.
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
^^^^^ TRUTH^^^^^
Andy will get taken down the moment he tries to shuck and jive and Sonnen showed he will strike to set up the take down.
Besides the evidence has always been that most fights end up on the ground.
Hell, a dehydrated Lutter got him down as well as Hendo……I just can’t see Sonnen getting shut out on the takedowns for 5 rounds.
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-Aldous Snow
Big difference
that 5 minute domination was set up from a shot that rocked Brock standing, then Carwin follows it up and owns for 5 mins. In rd 2, Brock trucks him to the ground and chokes him out like it’s nothin. Anderson goes 4 rds, completely out skilled everywhere the fight went, then locks up a sub off his back due to Sonnen’s complacency.
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Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
So domination depends on the length of time? I could argue that Chael is less deserving because he gave it all he had for 20 straight minutes and couldn’t put it away….
Domination depends on length of time in regards to where the fight takes place
A. Silva got 5 chances to start out on his feet and prove that he could defend the TD, out strike Sonnen and impose his game plan. He was unable to do so every chance he got. The difference between the 5-7 min match and the 23 min match is the opportunity to see these fighters in so many different positions using all their skills. Brock got rocked, he then falls and survives GnP from Carwin for one round. That’s all we saw, then Brock chokes him out right off the bat in rd 2. All you saw of that fight was a little bit of stand up followed by a lot of GnP, then a bull rush and a choke from Brock to finish. Brock proved the 1st rd was null and void.
In the A. Silva fight you saw Sonnen take him down at will again and again, GnP from top position, Rock Silva from the standing position. He took the fight to Silva and dominated in every position they went to battle.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Good post but all Brock proved in round 1 was that his stand up is null and void. :)
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-Stephen King
I got to say, those last two cards (Lesnar and this Silva fight) were just epic cards. Probably two of the best ppv’s I have seen in a long, long time.
Agreed - minus the Guida fight.
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-Stephen King
agree with slim
Fitch was only wrestling, 60 punches from the top in 15 minutes? WTF is that?
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Against an obviously unhealthy opponent nonetheless...
If there ever was a time for Fitch to attempt to go for a sub or KO, this was it. Alves was beaten before he walked in the cage.
Alves looked so off
Punches had no snap to them, his speed was sapped.
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Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Easiest fight to predict. Fitch is the best fighter on the planet that no one talks about because he is such a grinder.
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-Stephen King
Fitch is deliberate and as a result appears boring. No argument from me there. Guida acts like a spastic blanket and fools people into thinking he is actually doing something. Come on, guys.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Here is what I find funny...
Florian’s gameplan against BJ was to lean on him, make him feel his weight and try to tire him out. It was unsuccessful, but everyone applauded his attempt.
Fitch uses the exact same strategy, against a guy who didn’t make weight, and he is lambasted for it. It was a good gameplan and it got him the win, which is the point of these little matches. He is going to do it until someone stops him, like GSP did.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Yeah but that's Fitch's gameplan for EVERY opponent - The Steel Blanket
I dont mind Fitch at all, he gets the job done fair play to him, but he’s never gonna be box office!
I have no problem with him grinding Alves out.
I do have a problem with him being on top for 15 minutes and not attempting or looking for 1 sub, and only throwing 60 punches.
Chael worked the same game plan as Fitch and threw 330 punches. That is the only thing that bothers me about Fitch. He’s not fighting, he’s wrestling only.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I think Fitch just doesn’t work to finish, whereas I think Florian and GSP do. Fitch just seems to wrestle them down and lay on them, but has nothing else to back it up. He’s a tough guy, just won’t improve to finish guys. A rematch with GSP will be the same. Of course, Dana back tracked in his post fight interview (again). I think we see winner of Shields fight against GSP now.
Fitch vs GSP again would be horrible and totally unmarketable
GSP just does everything Fitch does but 20% better. Fitch hasn’t evolved and has nothing whatsoever to offer GSP.
Fitch has the same problem that Ace had after losing to Silva. The 2nd best in his division. I guarantee you that no WW wants to fight Fitch.
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-Stephen King
No one wants to fight fitch cause he can make even the most exciting fighter look boring
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Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
No WW wants to fight Fitch because it means they will be recieving a L on thier record and they will be knocked out of title contention.
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
Fitch vs. GSP is a waste
I hope Fitch never gets to fight for a title again.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Watch that post fight interview with Dana, he is never going to give Fitch that fight if possible. He wants the Shields/GSP fight. Even Kampman would be a new challenge for GSP. You notice how GSP is on the 2nd cycle of fighters? Kos, Alves, Fitch, etc, etc…he’s beat them all, and badly. Bring on the new blood.
I'll take a Guida fight over any Fitch fight.
I got some weird feelings while Fitch was fitching up Alves.
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disagreed
I would take a Fitch fight over a Guida fight anytime.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Brock choked him out because Carwins body locked up on him.. more power to brock for taking the shots… But Brock didn’t do anything special to win… BJ coulda taken carwin down and subbed him at that point….
BJ would not have. He would have waited for the counter-punch that never came from an immobile opponent...
and his mom would have said Carwin greased!
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Guida would have dry humped Carwin for 5 minutes like a rabid, neutered poodle and then ran 5 laps around the ring like an ADD mutant.
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-Stephen King
I hated his victory over Dos Anjos. He rams his head into the guy's jaw and then celebrates like he got a clear cut victory.
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-Stephen King
It was an accidental ramming, trying to get a arm triangle
IMO
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Guida did break DA's jaw in hte first...
it is not like it was a pre-existing broken jaw.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
OJR. He celebrated because he won
regardless of the method. He has never shown KO power but he goes out and breaks someones jaw and apologized for it as well. He did what he needed too, he stifled Dos Anjos BJJ. He wasnt smashing his shoulder down to hurt him, just to be in the best position.
by AintNoSunshine on Aug 9, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you Retarded or something? You saw the replay during the interview with Rogan, didn't you?
THOSE BIG FISTS THAT CRUSHED Dos…now UNO Anjos broke his jaw. There was no “accidental” anything.
Stop being so butthurt. Guida won. DEAL WITH IT.
Carwin's control was fleeting, Chael's was real.
Carwin had one opportunity, he couldn’t get it done and Brock put him away. Chael controlled and dominated Anderson bell to bell for 4 rds.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha, how many TD's did Sonnen get??
I saw nothing to indicate that fight wouldnt go exactly the same next time, except next time Chael gets the stoppage or the decision and stays out of the sub.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
AGREED
But I also think Shane beats Brock in a rematch.
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
What if Anderson did that shit on purpose? I think there is a chance he let himself get beat up to see if he could come back.. He is that crazy…
LOL. No. I give credit to Sonnen. Wrestlers neutralize strikers all the time.
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-Stephen King
It was just strange watching him take it on the feet? and with his hands down? Like he was trying to prove something
Arrogance. That's it.
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-Stephen King
Its funny. I hate Brock and I think he beats Carwin in a rematch. I think Silva beats Sonnen again.
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-Stephen King
I’m betting the house on Carwin if they fight again… Brock’s standup is awful… I think JDS puts him to sleep when / if they fight
Lesnar's shown he can take punishment
Seeing JDS struggle with nelson last night, I see no problems there for Brock. Dont think JDS has Carwins power and cant see him stopping a Lesnar td
Andrei Arlovski would beg to differ.
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LOL
Maybe we are just hard on our faves?
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
So you think GSP loses to Kos this time?
If you say yes, I will disown your ass.
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I think Kos is the most well rounded fighter
GSP’s had to deal with in a long time.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Been there, done that.
He’s nothing special. His stand up is horrible.
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Most athletic and explosive-yes. Well rounded? His stand up is way inferior to GSP's.
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-Stephen King
Which fighter has GSP beaten recently that was better all around then Kos then?
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Fitch is better than Kos.
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-Stephen King
Yep
Fitch would easily grind a win over Kos.
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Fitch might be able to lay n pray Kos
But that doesn’t make him a more well rounded fighter. Fitch is still a 1 dimensional wrestler with no KO power.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
And I wasn't even talking about who would beat who in a contender match
I was talking about being a WELL ROUNDED fighter; Kos has KO power, isn’t afraid to let the hands go and has a world class wrestling base. IMO that means he is at least going to be a competent opponent no matter where the fight takes place.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
But his wrestling isn't good enough to stop GSP
And his stand up is light years behind GSP.
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
...... jesus christ .....
How did you translate me saying “Kos is the most well rounded fighter GSP has had to fight in a while” to “KOS IS GOING TO TAKE THIS GUYS, KOS IS THE BEST! YEA!”
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
It will be interesting
I see GSP using a little more of his stand up but he will want to take KOS down and not take a chance as KOS has KO power and GSP really hasn’t shown any KO power, GSP may outstrike KOS all night but in MMA KOS is more dangerous becasue all it takes is one shot. No one has stopped GSP’s takedowns or ground game and I doubt KOS does either but I think he’ll put up a good fight for two or three rounds.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
GSP hasn't shown KO power?
Who has Kos ever KO’d? I bet that fighter isn’t nearly as good as Hughes.
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I give KOS a 30% chance in this fight
I’m not saying his stand up is better but it is dangerous becasue it has power behind it, accuracy wise GSP kills. On the ground you think KOS will at least put up a struggle? I give KOS a better chance all around than I did Hardy anyway.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
For sure
I think this will be a much more competitive fight then people are giving it credit for.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Kos is the best fighter GSP has faced since Fitch. I agree.
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-Stephen King
I think Alves could be considered more well rounded than Kos
He has better jits and striking. Kos just has wrestling. I don’t find Kos to be that well-rounded. He was Ko’d by Paulo a year ago.
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
He has heavy hands
They are not as accurate at GSP by any means but they are more powerfull.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
How come?
What has he done to make you say that? He has one punch.
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
He hits harder than Serra
Plus he has KO two of his last four opponents how many has GSP?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
How many KO's does GSP have?
ANd who did Kos KO? BUMS.
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
GSP got a lot of TKO's but no 1 punch drop em like a ton of bricks KO's
Kos put Yoshida on Queer street with one punch; Hazelett and Trigg too. Cept Hazelette was a head kick.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
He is more proven than Serra at striking and better
Serra never KO anyone before GSP, KOS has a handfull on his record. Now KOS’s KO’s were not against elite fighters but the point is if he connects he can. Most likely not going to happen against GSP but there is a chance and thats all I’m saying.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Jay, Kos has better one punch KO power than GSP. The evidence has been laid out. You are arguing a losing battle here.......
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Thiago Alves uses the guard to get off the ground
He doesn’t work subs and use jits to win a fight on the ground; all his ground skills go toward staying off the ground. Kos’s wrestling credentials are by far more credable then Alves jits game.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Fitch is multi dimensional - he is just not a spectacular fighter. Watch his combos, head movement and TD's of Alves. It was very well done even if not very exciting.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
IMO they're 50/50 on wrestling and Kos knocks Fitch silly striking
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
No way. Kos loading his overhand right is easy pickings for Fitch. If Fitch can deal with Alves twice - Kos' stand up is cake, IMO.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
What does Kos
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
What does Kos have that people are considering "good stand up"?
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Kos is going to be harder to take down and keep down than Alves
Especially a sick Alves who is drained of fluid and coming in off a 13 month lay off.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
And Fitch didn't have to worry about Alves shooting on him
If he was fighting Kos they’d both have to think about defending the TD. Fitch was free to take his time and set things up with Alves cause he didn’t have to worry about the shot.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
What? NO.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Fitch Wrestler, Hughes Wrestler, Alves striker, Hardy Striker
Kos has world class wrestling AND isn’t afraid to let the hands go; which one of these guys recently is a more well rounded fighter than Kos??
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed Kos is the more well-rounded fighter right now, which poses some interesting problems for GSP now. I would like to see Kos and Fitch go at it at some point. I think Dana is thinking if Kos should pull off the upset, Fitch will fight him, if GSP wins, the winner of Shields/Kampman gets the shot.
This no fighting teammates business is ridiculous
I can understand but when you got two guys like Fitch and Kos who are constantly ranked among the top 5 in the division and both have already had a crack at the current champ they need to fight eachother at some point to see who moves forward and who goes back to the drawing board.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I also think Brock takes a rematch against Carwin
But I think that when Chael’s up for another shot at the title, if Anderson still has the belt then Anderson announces his retirement before he signs to fight Sonnen again.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
He WON'T fight Chael ever again.
ED won’t let it happen.
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Jay, you’re the last person I thought I would have to call on this, but that was Carwin’s best and only chance at Brock. Brock was nearly dead a few months before the fight, and carwin still couldn’t do anything. Carwin did everything he could do and still couldn’t even keep Brock on the ground, much less finish him, much less avoid getting tapped two minutes later.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Dissension within the ranks. I love it. *rubbing hands together in an evil manner*
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-Stephen King
Not at all.
I just think Carwin will be smarter next time. Instead of throwing 50 punches into the arms of Brock, he’ll probably pick his shots better. It’s better to think Brock will lose than think he will win, set myself up for disappointment before it happens.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I think the next time Brock fights Carwin
the 1st rd will look just like the 2nd rd did the first time around.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 9, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not a huge Brock fan, but I have to give it to him on that Carwin fight. He took some awesome shots for an entire round by a guy that knocked out every single person he fought in the 1st rd. He came back and took him out, albeit Carwin gassed. Lesnar gained my respect for that alone. That was one awesome HW fight. When you say Brock didn’t do anything special to win, let me know how special it is to take those shots from Carwin and still be standing?
GSP fight really interests me now
I always wanted to see that super fight and honestly they can leave titles out of it. Only reason i want a title invovled for 5 rounds.
I think this fight shows GSP wins that fight though, barring he does not get knocked out (thats a big if). We all believe since getting beat by serra GSP chin is gone or weak, and AS could put him to sleep. There is no way GSP going to get caught in a sub because he’s tired.
I also think sonnen deserves a rematch becuase if he did what AS did which is run for 2 rounds he would have won the fight like AS did vs maia (not saying maia would win if AS engaged) saying that AS coasted and sonnen coulda done the same.
No-one is mentioning Sonnen's Ninja Roll in the 1st...
For me that was one of the MMA highlights of the year ;)
AS was never in danger of being stopped by Sonnen,
but Brock did and was lucky Rosenthal was the ref that night.
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Carwin should get a rematch
I completely agree, he’s only one in that division i think has a chance at beating Brock.
JDS is good infact he’s amazing but i think he’s 2 small and he has good Takedown defense, from roy but roy is not brock. I think he will get ragged doll’d if he doesn’t end it in the first round.
AS rematch with sonnen i push for more because i think he was the first person to really push AS and no one else in the division has really come close. With a smarter game plan sonnen wins.
Rematch
I think carwin and sonnen should get a rematch. Silva is my favorite fighter, and he was challenged saturday. The difference between sonnen and the rest of andersons opponents is soonen had controlled aggression. He went in with the confidence he could take as down. The stand up was okay at best. The ground and pound was excellent. Silva remained calm, and got the sub. If the rib injury is true I expect silva to run through sonnen this time… after the rematch GSP! Not a fan after grease gate, but I dont knock the guys skill. This gives gsp time to gain weight, and finish kos AGAIN. Belfort will have to fight a top 2-3 guy. The fight for 2011 is def. gsp vs anderson I wasnt a believer before but Sat closes the gap.
I'm calling bullshit with the Rib Injury story.
I think his Rib was broken DURING the Fight by Chael not during training. Otherwise, he would’ve been holding his side and/or been wincing a little(I watched him when he was shown in the lockeroom and all throughout his entrance and he looked as fresh as a daisy. No ill effects whatsoever…
It’s just one big DAMN EXCUSE they had ready in case that Sonnen got the best of AS(which he almost did). ED KNEW that AS sucks against REAL Wrestlers so he already put on the Spin-Cycle for the possibility of AS losing or looking bad….
Hendo is not a real wrestler?
Sonnon cant hold a candle to Hendos accomplishments. in 5 years we will ask who was that guy that gave anderson trouble? Like roy Jones vs Griffith. I agree the rib injury may be suspect but since he is out for 6 months, you’d think Zuffa would need proof of an xray, and not just a doctors excuse. I think he may have hurt his rib in training but sonnen cracked it. I dont think anderson is scared of any fighter. Look at the guys he has beat & fought
More power than Anderson?
Jay your not serious!! Please give me a complete list of Sonnen’s ko’s due to stirkes and compare them with Anderson’s! you will lose!!
You can have a harder punch than someone and not have more KO's than them.
But I’m just bothering the AS fans with that stuff.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Which is evident in chael's
19 victories by decision and 0 finishes in the ufc and wec… Chael couldn’t knock out a kitten, I think if him and bispbing fought it’d be a 15 minute pillow fight
by soupdz28 on Aug 10, 2010 7:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You're both wrong.
Not surprising, really.
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
no your wrong
the first time he rocked Anderson he stood there & let him hit him twice & the second time was a slip you should re-watch the fight without those rose tinted specs on
SOo.....
AS was winning that fight? Or did he even win a minute of that fight? NO he was dominated. It’s embarrassing for him, to say the least.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
It does matter dumb-dumb
He was totally dominated for the whole fight. That triangle was PURE luck.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
OK Dana
No such thing as a lucky sub, retard? So the Hughes sub on Newton was complete fucking luck?
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
my guess
he bought one of these:
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
I don't agree with you AS fans so obviously I'm uneducated, right?
LOL.
Trying to attack someone’s intelligence because you can’t make a decent case for not having an immediate rematch. LOL
You guys are too cool. Why don’t you suck yourself off, Dana looking faggot.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I love when you go trolling after big fights...
You crack me the fuck up.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
I am calling you an idiot because you are getting facts wrong… Hughes owns two victories over Newton.. A tko and a KO… Your opinion of AS has nothing to do with the fact you are a complete clown and moron
Who are you again? Bloody Elbow
Look into it.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
wtf are you talking about, I want to see a rematch myself… just because you think there are such things in the world of MMA as “lucky” punches or subs than that puts us all in the same group of people who don’t want to see a rematch? oh yeah, there are also ghosts and chupacabras in this world, that’s how stupid your claim seems to me. btw, I look nothing like DW lol
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
You aren't who I was talking to. I was talking to evilgaybo
I mean lucky as in, he was lucky to still be awake and in that fight after that beating.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
i don't look like Dana
my Av is a pic of myself i don’t put a pic up of a fighter cause i’m not a fat retard
You are a fat retard
Don’t try to fool yourself. You look stupid in your gay pic. My profile is the result of losing a bet. do you really think I would have a pic of Cro Cop? You do look like Dana, the poor ugly version.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
LMAO. You are in rare form today, Jay.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
The fight didn't bother me at all
AS’ retarded fans do. Every one of them is afraid of AS losing that they are acting like a rematch is a bad idea. Fan boys make me angry.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Kinda like how Canadian Queers get their panties all bunched up everytime a GSP comment is posted that doesn't reek of his ball sweat.
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
There is no precedent fo it.
Sonnen got subbed, he needs one more to get back to the title. It wasn’t controversial in any way that Sonnen tapped. He TAPPED, jay. That is enough to not give him another fight, right now.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
I know.
What does AS do while Chael goes and beats a contender? That’s the only reason this rematch makes sense. There’s nobody for AS to fight in the mean time. That is all.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
EXCELLENT IDEA
YES. I love that idea. I think Shields even stands a chance after this Chael fight.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Paul Harris after he beats up Nate.
Not a great match, but he would be deserving, but wouldn’t win.
Make Leben/Sonnen a #1 contender fight.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
or Shields as bob says above.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
agree jay
would love to see the face of each and every AS nuthugger after rd 4.
My P4P Top 5:
1) GSP 2) Aldo 3) A. Silva 4)Shogun 5) Fedor
My face was sad but then I got happy again really fast after the sub. Oh yes, fuck yes, love it yes!!!!
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
These are the posts I'm replying to
evilgumbo walks in and keeps saying I’m stupid or retarded without talking about MMA once. I get a little angry when Dana White looking trolls walk in and try to act cool. What match makes any sense to you besides Chael/AS 2 to you fat boy?
AS vs. Belfort makes zero sense.
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
you have been calling him fag and retard the whole time 2 lol
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infact im positive you started the name calling lol
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Destroy one of the only two guys at his weight?
he finally has a competitor at his weight(2 actually) and you want to end one of their runs fighting each other? Bad idea IMO.
No more fights at 205, he said he wants to stay at 185. Belfort hasn’t won a fight at that weight and is coming off an injury, no fight for him.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I agree with Jay
Someone please try and make a case for Vitor… He came back to the UFC fought 1 guy in Franklin at a CATCHWEIGHT and that win grants him a title shot?
How does beating Franklin who got DESTROYED by Anderson TWICE make any sense? Vitor should need 1-2 wins before getting a shot.
I dont see how you can make a case for him getting a shot…
"I only want to be known as the best ever. Is that too much to ask?"
-BJ Penn
"I dont know how GSP puts his jeans on with all those people hugging his nuts"... -Dan Hardy
fair point
Vitor is a very overrated fighter everyone who he’s fought who’s been any good has beat him
So then what does AS do while he waits for Chael to win another contenders fight. And who does Chael even have to beat for you guys to believe he's ready again?
That’s why a rematch is the only thing they can do.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Nah they'll do Belfort or Okami
Belfort would be a big seller, people love Vitor and Okami has some merit, the last man to beat silva etc
Yes we all know that evilgumbo
Wont stop Dana trying to get some mileage out of the avenge a loss angle.
The only case was..
there was no one even close to being able to challenge Silva at the time. However, now Sonnen has shown he is capable. I agree, no Vitor title shot until at least another fight against a top contender.
Well it's a matter of opinion...
Chael deserves a rematch in a lot of peoples eyes… Mine included… If AS is the GREATEST P4P champ ever then he should be saying he would rematch him since he looked like absolute shit for 99.5% of the fight….
Give him the rematch and make Vitor fight Okami or hell even Leben… Make him get a legitimate win at 185!
"I only want to be known as the best ever. Is that too much to ask?"
-BJ Penn
"I dont know how GSP puts his jeans on with all those people hugging his nuts"... -Dan Hardy
Too stubby for 185.
Won’t break top 10
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Agree, Ulf
He doesn’t want to go there either. He’ll do horribly. Chael, Marq, Okami…outwrestled.
He’ll do very poorly.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Leben Vs Alves...
Wouldnt mean much but would be very entertaining lol
"I only want to be known as the best ever. Is that too much to ask?"
-BJ Penn
"I dont know how GSP puts his jeans on with all those people hugging his nuts"... -Dan Hardy
Why the F did Alves cut all that weight to miss by .5 lbs;wtf was he thinking? might as well miss it by 5 pounds or more
I look better than everyone here
Watching the ugly people argue is hilarious tho
He knocked Newton out, did he?
You’ve OBVIOUSLY NEVER SEEN THE FIGHT. DON’T COMMENT ON SHIT YOU HAVEN’T SEEN.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
He knocked him out with a triangle, where he got slammed on his head and also fell asleep
Sounds like a KO to me, you fucking newfag bob.
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Matt hughes was the one who was in the triangle you moron…What are you even talking about? you should be banned from commenting..
He didn't knock him out retard
Do you know what a KO is?
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
ko= knock out
newton was out completly sleeping
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I had the memory backwards
I thought it was Hughes that was triangling(word?) Newton. I remembered it backwards. I bow down to your superior knowledge on this one.
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Jay is not dumb but he dislikes Silva so he is not going to give up his position...
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
nice one Jay!
that sub was the definition of luck
being unconscious and gettiing a sub? luck!
My P4P Top 5:
1) GSP 2) Aldo 3) A. Silva 4)Shogun 5) Fedor
lol at:
That triangle was PURE luck
submissions needs to be set up, this is nothing like a lucky punch (though I don’t believe in those either)
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
Agreed.
lucky subs don’t happen, they are made.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
He's lucky that Chael gets subbed by white belts. chael is the worst at sub defence.
AS is lucky that is true. Because he was being killed on Saturday.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
he was, but Sonnen left his arms out there multiple times.
I just kept thinking it was a matter of time. DAMNIT, I wanted Sonnen to win.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
However, Go back and watch
and Anderson hit Chael hard from his back and Chael kinda went back and lost his placement thus giving Anderson the split second to tuck the arm and swing the leg.
by AintNoSunshine on Aug 9, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
iN OTHER WORDS....CHAEL HAD A BRAINFART
Which opened the door for a Triangle…
That = LUCKY.
Especially with just under 2 minutes remaining in the entire fight that Silva was LOSING All ROUNDS!!
Silva hit Chael w/ an elbow right to the neck towards the end of the 4th that looked like it really hurt him. Plus he was getting tired. Mad props to Silva for pulling that shit off. That fight was legendary.
by HappyLittleTreez on Aug 9, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Come on jay that sub wasn't luck!
Any1 can see AS was setting that shit up for 24 minutes =D.
by d*locc on Aug 9, 2010 10:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Playing possum? LOL
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
no he isn't
if chael wouldve finished him he would have the belt and wouldnt need a rematch…..they’re scared
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Yep
Laughable how the AS fans are pleased or satisfied with this win. AS is below GSP on the P4P lists, guaranteed.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
YES
Nobody at GSP’s weight can own him like that. AS gets owned and loses most fights against Chael. you’re stupid so I don’t expect you to understand P4P.
GSP would kill AS if they were the same size. TRUTH.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I agree jay, too bad silva is always going to be 20-30 pounds heavier than GSP with a sizable reach advantage.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
That Fight showed GSP would win
unless AS landed a shot, GSP would win.. GSP wouldn’t gas and get caught in a triangle since he easily sat in ton of ppls guard and getting caught in a triangle in the 5th is part skill (AS is very talented) Also part being tired all that sweat all you would have to do is posture up and break it or slip up before it’s ever locked in.
Not sure if its a cert GSP would win
But that fight last night makes me believe GSP would be VERY competitive indeed.
Truth.
I thought that too. GSP wouldn’t gas or get caught in a sub like that. The time is right for GSP to go to MW.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I agree
He’s cleaned out WW, there’s nothing left for him? Anyone seriously wanna see GSP vs Fitch 2????
Give him a warm up fight at MW like Akiyama/Bizzzzbing then shove him in with AS.
I agree as well
GSP would never gas and get caught in what seemed to be a lazy triangle for a black belt.
Same AS could win by tagging him but i really think GSP takes it now.
I want to see GSP-Ficth, but only because I would enjoy watching Fitch get his boring face beaten in for 25 minutes.
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No they won't. No one will outwrestle and dominate GSP like that. Never.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Some one Will Sprawl His Takedowns and Hurt him Standing
Someone will put a beating on George.
by AintNoSunshine on Aug 9, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Jay you sound stupid… The question is does he deserve an immediate rematch? Dominating a fight does not warrant a rematch…So does Carwin deserve an immediate rematch? same exact thing
Retard.
Carwin did it for 5 minutes and gassed. Chael did it for 23 minutes and got caught. Don’t try to compare to matches, it makes you look even dumber.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I'm not a Silva fan, but I was very pleased with this fight. It was actually perfect. I wanted Silva to get taken down a notch, but the more Sonnen kept talking, the more I wanted him to lose.
We got to watch AS get punched for most of the fight, and then Sonnen lose in epic fashion to a McDonalds black belt.
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by AintNoSunshine on Aug 9, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
That was a complete domination.
Andy should be demanding a rematch instead of running from one. He knows Chael beats him in a rematch.
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Both of your points are irrelevant…. Anyone who thinks he deserves an immediate rematch is an idiot…
LOL
He deserves an immediate rematch. Who else is AS gonna fight? Another dude that doesn’t deserve to be in there with him? You haven’t seen enough dancing yet?
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
you think someone 3-2 in his last 5 fights deserves an immediate rematch? yeah, thats what i thought
HAHAHAHA
3-2 in his last five. 3-1 in his last 4 only losing to the champ. You’re retarded for trying to skew numbers.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Both of my points are irrelevant?
The one where I said Sonnen dominated him or that Chael is a better fighter than AS? They both sound irrelevant. LOL
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
YES COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.. The only point that is slightly relevant is that no one else deserves it either.. You have to give someone else who has been competing and winning a chance.. If no one else can fight..Then Chael steps in..
Is there ANY other options?
Don’t be afraid of your hero losing. You don’t gain anything if he beats another chump.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
He is not my hero..I can not stand him.. I just can see clearly on the topic…Unlike yourself… If no one else can fight him then I have no problem w Chael stepping in.. my issue is taking the opportunity away from someone else who deserves it.. chael had his chance and f’d it up
AND WHO DESERVES IT, GENIUS??? WHO?? TELL US!! WHO?
ANSWER : NO ONE!
SO GIVE CHAEL THE REMATCH ALREADY AND BE DONE WITH IT.
Paul Harris, when he beats Nate, is deserving.
Give Belfort to Okami as a “warm-up” for the next shot.
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You are actually comparing Nate's BJJ to those two? REALLY??
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
So AS is on the same level as those two, in terms of BJJ?
Not even close. There is a reason he wouldn’t go to ground with either.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
ahhhh, I am being dumb. gotcha now (stupid Monday)
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I dont know why you're trying to go to war with me.
All I’m saying is AS vs Paul Harris would be a complete replay of Silva vs Maia/Leites, ie not very competitive.
see above, for the comment (me = dumb) ;)
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Have you seen Paul Harris wrestle?
He can take down anyone in the division. In fact i would love to see him fight Chael. I would love for Chael to see if he can fake tap his way out of there.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 9, 2010 10:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lol, fake tap
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i love how jay get so reved up when anderson is brought into the picture
he hates him so damn much lol i love it
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Someone post the .gif of Chael doing that little flip..
It happened in the 1st or 2nd when Silva caught a kick. Chael turns around and does a little tumble roll lol. haha, I about lost my shit when I saw that.
by HappyLittleTreez on Aug 9, 2010 10:05 AM EDT reply actions
That was an excellent defense.
Most guys would have just stood there and gotten punched in the face like irvin.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 9, 2010 10:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It really was. It was just so unexpected. You could tell it was on we he did that though. He was gonna do whatever it took to win.
by HappyLittleTreez on Aug 9, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
i see both sides of this argument. it’s also about running a business though. would having a rematch give a huge buyrate? hell yes. brock wasn’t worthy of the title fight he got, but because ufc is a business first and charity last, we got what we got. ufc listens to its fans at least, which is why we thankfully never got franklin/ hendo 2. great fighters, but not a rematch anyone was clamoring for. but i’m getting off point. to not capitalize on the ONE fighter that finally brought it to anderson seems a waste. belfort seems to be cut from the same cloth, and he has real knock out power. i’m betting they’ll go with belfort first. chael needs to learn more bjj (he knew some according to 2 gracies who broke down the ending), and i don’t see them making belfort wait BECAUSE chael did tap. he lost. no controversy. any way you slice it, he did lose. i like both guys, and i thought that fight was amazing to watch. watched it twice. so i’m not hating on either party. but fighters are in this to win or lose. and when you lose, you have to build yourself back up, even if it’s a little. and unfortunately, even if you dominated the most feared fighter for 4.75 rounds in a fight of the yr candidate.
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said gracie sonnen submission breakdown video of 117
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/8/8/1611934/anderson-silva-vs-chael-sonnen
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Some people simply will never be good at BJJ.
It’s like for example when people say if Manhoef trained with Jacare or Marcelo for two years……no, there are been many talented strikers who’ve been studying more than a decade in MMA yet still get tapped after one takedown. From Gilbert Yvel to pete spratt to bang ludwig. My point is that some people just don’t get it and Chael is one of them. That’s why a Vitor fight makes more sense now (at least if he fought the way he did in 02 or a GSP fight because the TD is there and he won’t get subbed). No need for rematch here.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 9, 2010 10:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I can see why people would campaign for an immediate rematch.
Chael was literally 90 seconds away from winning all 5 rounds and taking the belt from the so-called PFP best fighter in the world, and he slipped up.
If he had of gotten caught in the 3rd or 4th round, then I can see why an immediate rematch isn’t neccessary. But when it comes down to the very last minute, literally, then that’s different, IMO.
I say give Chael another shot. He’ll get the job done properly next time.
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agreed
I’m not sure Dana cares who we all think should fight Silva next. This is a business decision plain and simple. If we all remove ourselves from the emotional debate as fans, we’d have to see the benefits in an immediate rematch. The Passion in this very debate speaks to one reason Dana might go for it. Fans are stoked about the whole thing one way or the other. If I was even thinking about allowing a rematch I’d announce it quick.
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by Jrandolph on Aug 9, 2010 10:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
GET THE JOB DONE NEXT TIME
THAT WOULDN’T HAPPEN ONCE A CHAMPION WINS THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THAT THEY LEARN FROM THAT. SONNEN GAVE UP NOT SILVA.
by Armando Cruz on Aug 12, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Ed talking the bullshit again! Il translate… My boy got fucking battered and I don’t want him to be in that position again! It’s true he lost fair and square so maybe an immediate rematch wouldn’t be right but tell it how it is ed!
by stebrillz on Aug 9, 2010 10:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yes. Eat it cabrones. Eat it!!!
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-Stephen King
The thing is that Sonnen has perfected the art of tapping that he's made it look like it never happened.
Chael “I’ll Tap if you twist my finger” Sonnen.
Facebook is for gays!!!
It's a patented move from Team Quest or at least his
master Matt Linland. Both are fake tapping cheaters. They share teh same philosophy of whatever it takes to win from not showering for days before fighting all the way to their now infamous single tap fakeout. Just BS.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 9, 2010 10:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't like Soars but I agree this him here
How many times have we seen a fighter at the brink of defeat only to pull a sub or ko out of there ass in the end? I don’t think I’ve heard of an immediate rematch with those guys, why? Bottom line is when a guy is finished there is NO controversy like a spit decision or a obvious bad decision ex lyoto/shogun 1 or gsp/penn 1 etc.
Fedor is still the man. This is only his first real loss, and most likely his last of his career, he won't lose again.
That's true
But it is different with Anderson Silva. Silva has looked invincible ever since he first stepped into the octagon. Then Chael destroyed him for that entire fight up until that submission. I’m not sure if I want to see an immeidate rematch but I certainly want to see another rematch. I think Vitor should have at least one middleweight fight before he fights for the title.
There are to many hypocrites in here
AS says he has a rib injury and all of a sudden everyone believe him? This is no different than BJ Penn and Tito Ortiz and anyone else saying that after a fight. IT is BS if you get in the ring excuses are out the door. The fact it AS had his butt handed to him for 4 1/2 rounds but he pulled out the win. I don’t want to hear how he was injured thats just crap. He found a way to win as all great champions do. How did Ed Soares become a spokesman? He is a translator that has grown into something much more. I hate Ed he needs to keep his thoughts to himself as they have no place in this. I want to see Vitor fight him next and see Chael fight Maia in a rematch. If Chael deserves a rematch he must earn it by beating someone who tooled him.
I agree with that, I just groaned when the excuses started being made straight away
True if that was BJ or Tito everyone would be all over them like white on rice.
I agree too
Did you notice Ed trying to translate for JDS? JDS just brushes him off like “I know how to speak English, motherfucker”. I hate ED.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Fuck Ed and I hate excuses.
but sonnen does have a legit excuse for losing, dumbassery.
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JDS HAS BAD ENGLISH WHAT YOU TALKING BOUT WILLIS
AS THE QUESTIONS BECAME MORE ELABORATE JDS SMILED UNCOMFORTABLY THATS WHY SOROES STEPPED IN. DO WE HAVE MMA FANS OR DRAMA SEEKERS. LEAVE THE DRAMA FOR THE LADIES YALL.
by Armando Cruz on Aug 12, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I did not like that, either. Take your victory and STFU. And I am a Silva fan.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
An immediate rematch is asking a bit too much...
But I agree if they can’t find a suitable opponent. Belfort is coming off a big lay off and hasn’t beaten anyone at middleweight since his “return”. I like Vitor, but I think he needs another fight before challenging Silva. Maybe the winner of Palhares/Marquardt, that would make sense. I don’t think the fight would be nearly as epic as Sonnen’s, but both guys are contenders. I could see a lot of hype for the fight especially if Marquardt finishes the fight in exciting fashion or if Palhares rips his leg off and continues his streak of subs. I got a bad thought though, what if Silva fights one more guy and then retires, and Sonnen doesn’t fight him again? I definitely want to see that rematch. Immediate, or down the road.
by Mustafa G on Aug 9, 2010 11:03 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
the only reason some of you don’t want a rematch is because silva has a really good chance of losing. silva is just like many of the top athletes who are full of themselves. he complains about being hurt when he gets his ass kicked instead of saying sonnen had a great gameplan and beat the hell out of me. silva’s run at being champ is coming to an end soon and it seems like all of you want him to have easy fights instead of someone who can actually beat him. get off the dudes nutsack. let him fight vitor after his long lay off and beat him and then lose his belt to sonnen. if vitor was healthy he would lose it to him anyway.
bshark. Great post.
Cue Dana telling you that you are uneducated.
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SONNEN LOST BY TAPPING OUT IE, QUITING
IF ANDERSON SILVA IS FULL OF HIMSELF THAN HOW DID HE REACH DEEP WITHIN HIMSELF TO PULL THE WIN.HE COULD HAVE BROKE SONNENS ARM AND DIDN’T, THAT SAYS ALOT ABOUT TRUE CHARACTER. SONNEN LOST BY WAY OF GIVING UP, NOT SILVA.
by Armando Cruz on Aug 12, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Sonnen deserves a rematch
But not necessarily an instant rematch. He may have to fight Vitor for the belt though, then AS. Can’t blame ES for not wanting the rematch, must have been tourture for him to watch his boy get whupped up on for 23 mins. I know I wouldn’t want to see my boy get pummeled like that, only to have to fight the same guy again in a few months. But just because he couldn’t finish him doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be a rematch, I think what Sonnen did to AS warrants any talk of a rematch for sure.
I Agree With This Guy
I don’t care if Anderson caught him in the middle of the 1st or the end of the 5th, the fact is, Anderson caught him, just like a lot of good BJJ guys caught him and regardless of the 1st 23 minutes there is 1 thing in the fight Anderson did to Chael that Chael couldn’t do to Anderson, make him quit. Chael needs to earn a rematch. Just because he came closer than anyone to winning than anyone doesn’t equal a win guys.
Nothing Ever Changes When Nothing Ever Changes
Since I Sounded Pretty One Sided
My point is that Chael should be a the top and closer to a rematch, but not immediate. He was still submitted, it wasn’t a close decision or anything like what was used to give Shogun an instant rematch. Personally, I don’t EVER believe in an instant rematch other than the cases of a long time champ getting a rematch with whoever dethrones him.
Nothing Ever Changes When Nothing Ever Changes
Anderson is not even close to being P4P best
He showed why he is the most over hyped champion in ufc history. The first good wrestler he faced destroyed him. He was exposed like GSP does to everyone he fights. If anderson was to fight anyone at 205 that can wrestle he would be destroyed. Sonnen made anderson look amature at best.
Depends On Your Angle
I can spin it to say Anderson has more heart than any fighter in UFC history because even after being destroyed for 23 minutes he found a lighning quick submission and never gave up.
You are going to hate, if you want to be a hater. Just how it is.
Nothing Ever Changes When Nothing Ever Changes
no i respect andersons stand up and subs
but his wrestling is amature, and his ability to get up from his back is novice as well
Not a great comparison
Shields has great td’s and hendo didn’t really go looking for any, just looked to load up the big right hand.
ya but this is MMA not Olympics
The first guy he ever faced that had good mma wrestling destroyed him. Just as any 205er with descent wrestling would do to him
He does, but he’s fallen in love with his right fist, rather than using his wrestling in any meaningful way. Not that I blame him, I love my right fist too.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
NOPE
He has the old mark coleman, matt hughes, mark keer style wrestling.
How bout this then, lets take a look at Dan’s last fight. What happend in that fight??
Use the bloody reply button!
Your basically saying Dan henderson’s wrestling is no good, basing it off one fight against Jake Shields, where all he did was look to load up the big right hand all night? Incredible!!
Funny stuff.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Exactly!
No he didn’t. He used his really good wrestling to stay out of control, on bottom, and on the recieving end of a 170lb mans pillow fisted attack. For a LOSS
Totally missing the point again
As P-Dub said above, henderson has fallen in love with the big right hand and doesn’t use his wrestling anymore. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t have good “MMA Wrestling”. he used his “MMA Wrestling” in the Anderson Silva fight and controlled the first round, just got caught standing in the second.
Point being Sonnen aint the firs of his kind that Silva has fought!
Then why was it anderson seemed as though he was lost
sure he kept trying to set up the arm bar and the triangle but anyone, black belt or not tries thoes subs from the bottom. Dont get me wrong, I think anderson is dam good, and am impressed with how he pulled the sub but I am all in all disappointed with his performance. he looked EXACTLY like hardy, alves, kos, fitch, hendo did when they fought good mma wrestlers. If you cant admit that all of those guys need better tdd than you are delusional.
Point being Anderson is not the best fighter in the world
If he wouldnt dodge the good wrestlers you would have learned that before sat. night
HE STILL WON AND DID NOT DODGE ANYONE
HE FOUGHT A GREAT WRESTLER AND WON ON THE GROUND. SONNENS FACE WAS ALL CUT UP NOT SILVAS . SILVA COULD HAVE BROKE SONNENS ARM BUT HE DIDNT. OBVIOUSLY HE DIDNT CARE TO FIGHT SONNEN IN THE PAST CAUSE HE WAS FIGHTING BETTER FIGHTERS AT PRIDE AT THE TIME. ALSO JUST BECAUSE HE DIDNT WANT TO FIGHT SOMEONE DOESNT MEAN HE’S DODGING THEM. IT’S SAYING YOUR A COWARD CAUSE YOU DID’NT WANT TO GO OUT AND HANG. YOU JUST DIDN’T FEEL LIKE HANGING.
by Armando Cruz on Aug 12, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
what are the other fights dan used his wrestling to win?
When they fight real high level mma wrestlers the outcome speaks for its self. Trying to deny that is foolish. GSP does it to everyone, fitch does it to everyone, sonnen does it to everyone.
You made because your heros dan henderson and anderson silva have NO tdd, and lack the ability to get off their back. If I claimed to be a good wrestler, and couldnt get off my back for over 20 min I might rethink my skill set (and quit calling myself a wrestler)
I presume you're trolling now
So because Dan doesn’t dry hump people to death he doesn’t have good MMA wrestling????
GSP, Fitch, Sonnen instantly go for the TD because they have limited power in the standup whereas Hendo has huge KO power and a granite jaw, so has another string to his bow and opts to stand and trade nowadays.
Hendo’s not a hero of mine at all, I was merely pulling you up when you said Silva’s never fought a wrestler before. Suddenly you’re backpeddling telling us you meant “MMA wrestler”, which apparently hendo doesn’t fall into which is just laughable. Keep digging
I thought you were one of the more intelegent posters
Boy was I wrong. I didnt think I would need to spell out the obvious. Just because you wrestled 20 years ago, and used your wrestling 5 years ago doesnt mean it is top level. Why defend hedo for having a terrible game plan. Look where his right hand got him. In the minor leagues, beat up by a ww. If his mma wrestling was “good” like you say he would have beat the smaller man.
There are a ton ef excuses keep looking man
Convince me that anderson did good. The sub was good the rest of the 23 min looked hideous.
TONS OF EXCUSES
REGARDLESS OF WHAT HE DID FOR 23 MINUTES HE STILL LOST. IF THE BEATING HE IMPOSED ON ANDERSON WAS SO HIDEOUS , WHY DID ANDERSON WIN? THAT SHOULD QUESTION SONNENS STRIKING POWER. TO HIT SOMEONE OVER AND OVER AND NOT KNOCK THEM SHOWS HOW WEAK HIS STRIKES ARE. YOU CAN THROW A FAST PUNCH WITH NO POWER BEHIND IT AND KNOCK ANYBODY OUT IF YOU HIT THEM ON THE JAW WHERE THE NERVE ENDING IS, ITS PROVEN SCIENTIFIC FACT.
by Armando Cruz on Aug 12, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
because he didnt want to use it
is not a valid argument
Ugh yeah it is!
Ask Dan why he doesn’t wanna use his wrestling anymore, I cant answer that!! Maybe he prefers the flashy KO, there’s rumours of a dodgy back, but just because he doesn’t use it so much now doesn’t mean he isn’t an “MMA Wrestler” That’s my point!!!
I dont care about AS, I hate him, for whatever reason he was awful last night. I only came here to tell you Silva has fought a wrestler before and you’re trying to dismiss Dan as such which is just stupid!!
“The first guy he (Silva) ever faced that had good mma wrestling destroyed him”
“He (Dan) has the old mark coleman, matt hughes, mark keer style wrestling”
“Dude mark kerr has good mma wrestling "
Make your mind up!
That’s all from me on the subject, feel free to get the last word in.
Oh I will
I was spelling it out for you because you dont seem to understand.
Dan and Mark kerr are both in the same catagory. Has-been mma wrestlers.
If you want me to admit Dan had good wrestling years ago then there you are. He did. However he does not anymore. He hasnt been the wrestler he remember him as since comming to the UFC.
ANDERSON IS A GRAPPLER AND STRIKER NOT A WRESTLER
AFTER 23 MINUTES HE SLAPPED A TRIANGLE AND ARM BAR. THAT IS HIGH LEVEL JUJITSU AND REQUIRES NO RETHINKING OF A SKILL SET. SONNENS FACE WAS ALL CUT UP, WHAT ABOUT SILVA? 23 MINUTES OF WEAK GROUND POUND WAS IMPLEMENTED. WHAT IS STRONG WRESTLING WITHOUT STRONG STRIKING ON THE GROUND? A WASTE OF ENERGY AND TIME. ALL SONNENS FIGHTS COME BY WAY OF DECISION. THAT SAYS ALOT ABOUT HIS STRIKING POWER. YOU CAN HIT ANYONE ON THE NERVE ENDING OF THEIR CHIN AND KNOCK THEM DOWN WITH A WEAK PUNCH. ITS ALL ABOUT THE SWEET SPOT.
by Armando Cruz on Aug 12, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
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for the old generation Dan's mma wrestling was good
for the new generation its not. if you need proof look at his fights in the past 2 years.
I guess your stuck thinking what was 10 years ago is still valid today
My point is Anderson was finally forced to fight a wrestler
We all saw what happen in that fight. Dan and his “good” mma wrestling won one round against anderson, then got destroyed. Sonnen used his “legit” wrestling and won four and a half rounds. There is a little difference. Sonnen’s mma wrestling is better.
Case in point: The first GOOD mma wrestler Anderson faced destroyed him!
just accept it. Dan used to have good wrestling, now he is old and the new generation exposes it
He fought a good wrestler but sonnen still lost
It doesn’t matter if sonnen won 4 rounds he lost the 5th by submission. AS showed that he could win THROUGH A DIFFICULT SITUATION, WHICH I BET, NONE OF YOU COULD DO IF ANY OF YOU WHERE FACED WITH A CHALLENGE LIKE THAT. IF ANDERSON SILVA GOT DESTROYED THAN WHY DID HE WIN? DAN HENDERSON IS GETTING OLD BUT HE STILL WINS FIGHTS. IT’S AMAZING THAT THE COUCH POTATOES OF THE WORLD BEHAVE AS IF THEY KNOW WHAT IT IS TO BE AN ATHLETE/FIGHTER. IF AS WANTED TO BREAK SONNENS ARM HE COULD HAVE TO MAKE A POINT. REGARDLESS OF THE SHOW HE PUTS ON HE ALWAYS UPSETS THE SPECHATERS WHO WANT TO SEE HIM LOSE.
by Armando Cruz on Aug 12, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate this guy so much
ufc should get there own translators so ed will be totally irrelevant once again and i’ll never have to here this guys opinion ever again
YOU HATE THAT GUY
THAT GUY HELPED BRING THE FIGHT TOGETHER WITH HIS FIGHTER. OBVIOUSLY HIS INTELLECT GOT HIM TO WHERE HE IS TODAY. WHERE ARE YOU?
by Armando Cruz on Aug 12, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
AS VOICE
A translator would be best.
I HATE both them. Andersons mike tyson impersonation….
And Soares comments…
AS ran scared of Belfort and now everyone knows it.
Shut your face already Ed
Dude, if anyone deserves another shot at Anderson, it’s Chael. He beat his ass like no one else until he got subbed. Not sure if it needs to be an immediate rematch, but Chael needs to be in the mix in the very, very near future. Plus what is he saying about Chael being on Anderson for 23 minutes. He’s the only one that’s been able to be on him (AND WINNING) for 23 minutes. Then he says he couldn’t finish Anderson. Anderson doesn’t even try to finish his fights. I have to admit. I didn’t think Chael could do even near what he was able to pull off on Saturday. What he did was impressive. Even better, we got no Anderson Silva air dancing/showboating this fight, which was great. I’m still an Anderson Silva fan, but I’m glad he got his ass handed to him for almost the whole fight – but I’m definitely NOT an Ed Soares fan. Shut the hell up Ed!
ED also said this before they even fought.
He was saying Chael doesn’t deserve a shot but obviously he showed he belonged in there. Anderson seemed really hesitant as well about granting Chael a rematch as well in the post fight presser when asked the question.
As for Ed’s comments"
“Anderson got a few bumps and bruises, but let’s be realistic, you’re on a guy 23 minutes and you couldn’t finish him?”
Anderson couldn’t do anything to him either in those 23min. As for the Filho fight Chael got an immediate rematch and pretty much schooled him.
Either way it was a great night of fights.
Yeah Sonnen should ge a rematch
but I don’t see him ever beating Anderson without some sort of submission defense
heres how he can beat him
beat him up for 4 rounds
then run around like AS himself for the last round and take home the W
My P4P Top 5:
1) GSP 2) Aldo 3) A. Silva 4)Shogun 5) Fedor
yeah but
Sonnen doesnt know how to do that :)
by Black Dynamite on Aug 9, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
ED SHUT YOUR MOUTH !!!!! Anderson couldn’t finish Leites or Mia. What does that say about him ? Anderson has been exposed just like Liddell everyone now knows how to beat him. Sonnen should get a rematch ASAP. Chael owned Silva for 23 minutes, that has never been done before. I think that earns him another chance. Franklin got a rematch and he never did anything in the first fight to show he could hang in with Silva. WAR CHAEL !!!!!!!!!!
by Tim.uf on Aug 9, 2010 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
THIS. The Franklin rematch is the perfect example.
If HE Got a rematch, then Sonnen should as well.
I hate Sonnen's dumb ass but he shouldn't enough to earn a rematch.
Just please don’t tell him he has it until a week before the fight, I don’t want to listen to him for 2 months.
Knew this was on the way . Of course Ed doesnt Want Anderson to have a rematch with Sonnen.
Sonnen was Andersons hardest fight in the UFC to date. And Sonnen almost pulled it off. Give the Fans this rematch!
I fucking hate ed
hes so fucking stupid. ed knows he was shitting his pants ring side. watching his boy get pounded on for four fucking rounds. your dumb as fuck if he doesnt earn this. god give sonnen alittle respect cocksucker!!!!!!!!!
The fact that Ed sours doesn't want Andy to fight chael again is the #1 reason why there should be an immediate rematch!!
I think chael would win in the rematch. Fucker needs to learn how to pass guard first though.
by Conan the Barbarian on Aug 9, 2010 9:23 PM EDT reply actions
Ed "open Mouth" Sores
Spouting off garbage as always. I don’t care at all what he says. What kind of manager is jumping up and down in the ring like a giddy little school girl because his man won? Your’e a manager, try and show some class. Like it not Silva won, like it or not, Sonnen is deserving of an immediate rematch. Deal with it Sores your ******* ****!
silva sonnen rematch
Sonnen unexpectedly DOMINATED until he got tapped, he beat him standing and on the ground and then he got tapped. Silva snatched victory from the jaws of defeat. great , dramatic fight. But …… The Champ FINISHED – no decision victory. Silva should fight whoever is now at the the top of the list of contenders…and so on and so on until he gets beat. Sonnen was great (even though I am not a fan of the ground and pound fighters) but he needs to get back in line and tighten up his game. I am definitely in favor of a re-match down the road. Unfortunately MONEY will ALWAYS win and with 750,000 to 1 million people paying to view this fight and probably more for the re-match, Dana will do the same thing you would do …GET THE DOUGH!!
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