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id pick alves

If not for that long ass layoff..what’s it been..13months since his last fight? Better spray some wd40 on his rusty ass

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by salamagogo on Aug 5, 2010 8:24 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I'd be pissed too

Alves needs to move to 185. He’s known about this fight for how long now and he’s still having weight issues? 170 is just flat-out unnatural for him.
I picked Fitch for the win in Mc’s pool and this solidifies it for me. 13 months off + weight issues + what would have been a close fight anyway = Fitch winning.
I hope Thiago does lose the weight to make it fair. I also hope Fitch fights no matter what but I would understand if the weight disparity was so drastic that he might not want to. This is where Dana’s back-room deals play out.

by Dugout on Aug 5, 2010 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

From Yahoo Sports.....

Rumors said Alves was roughly 20 pounds away from the welterweight limit as of Wednesday. Yahoo! Sports’ Dave Meltzer spoke with Alves, who said every was okay but he did need Wednesday afternoon to continue cutting weight.

by Dugout on Aug 5, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Twenty pounds ain't nothing for ATT.

I think this fight is bad for Fitch. Alves’ a veteran and it’s not like he stopped training all this time. He still had three camps in the 13 months.

Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 5, 2010 8:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree and disagree.

You’re right – It’s not like he was completely inactive during that time – he was scheduled to fight at UFC 111 (I think March) so he was in the gym and preparing, wrestling, sparring, etc.

Normally I wouldn’t say 20 pounds is a lot but he’s probably already dropped 20lbs with 20 more to go in the last 2-3 days. That’s a lot of weight to lose. And for a guy (despite being a pro and a veteran) who’s had weight-cutting issues in the past – this could be problematic.

by Dugout on Aug 5, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

If Alves already cut a bunch, he’ll might have hit bottom, there’s a limit to how much water you can drain from your body. Plus Fitch is saying here that he wants Alves close to weight and to continue to cut weight even if he can’t make the deadline. I doubt Alves would attempt to cut after the deadline as he only has a day to rehydrate as it is. Alves might be right on track as far as I know but this gives me reason enough to lay some bucks on Fitch. I always though Fitchy was number 2 in the world and a drained Alves is not going to do well against him.

by H.I. McDunnough on Aug 5, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve never cut more than ten pounds so I’m no expert, but 20 pounds in 2.5 days seems rough. You figure some got don’t drop 20 punds anyway and most don’t cut more than 20. That’s a concern imo

by LOKIE on Aug 5, 2010 9:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He is 195-200 pounds on fight night for the last three years 20 pounds is not the problem

 He is cutting 30 pounds or 17%!! He stated cutting weight for GSP was not a issue so I don’t expect it would be here either.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Aug 5, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

20 pounds in less than 3 days is a problem as I’m sure he started a lot. Farther out. And he’s had problem before. So imo 20 pounds is.a problem

by LOKIE on Aug 5, 2010 11:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The most I ever cut in wrestling was 15lbs. in one night. I felt like a can of smashed assholes after that. I can’t imagine how I would feel after cutting close to 30 or so pounds in a week. These guys are probably much better at it than I was, but being dehydrated for that long would not feel good for anyone.

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by MM_Eh on Aug 5, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can't even imagine. Were you able to gain it right back?

Because i really wonder if you can take all that back in after like many guys claim. Now try that with someone like Tibau who does get up there to that 187-193 range and cuts to 155. But hey whatever helps you win right.

Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 5, 2010 10:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Our weigh-ins were same day for that particular tourny, so no, I didn’t get to gain it all back until probably the next day. It was a bad move on my part to wait that long to cut, as you really don’t feel good after, but it was an experience to say the least. Some of the tournys we weighed in the day before with someone from that org standing there and I can tell you that you do gain most of it back by the next day. It’s kind of amazing to be honest, but we’re a lot like camels. If your body needs rehydrating it will absorb a lot of what you drink instead of urinating it out.

Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.

by MM_Eh on Aug 5, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

IV BAGS

The difference in this kind of weight cut…. these guys mostly rehydrate using IV Bags… much more efficient… however that’s still a lot of brutal weight to cut his legs will feel the worst from it because of all the running he had to do.

by THORAZINE on Aug 5, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

15 pounds

Most I ever lost was 15 pounds for wrestling tourney. I agree I felt soo bad.I always cut about 10 punds and I could handle that but that extra few pounds just completley zapped me. Now I know he is a pro and has done it before. But he hasnt always got it done. He missed weight in the biggest fight of to that date, (Hughes) and didnt get it done. He also has been busted in past for using diuereticss. So coming of not being in tip top shape as of late due to minor surgery, I expect him to miss or be really drawn out.

by mspenc24 on Aug 5, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, 10lbs was my usual cut and I really didn’t even notice it. That extra 5 kicked the shit out of me. I knew guys who would do 20 or so in a couple of days and be fine, it’s different for everyone I guess.

Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.

by MM_Eh on Aug 5, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

You should be able to lose 5-10% of your body weight with little problems

 When you are use to doing it 10% is normal but 15% I think is starting to get crazy. Now these guys have a full day to hydrate themselves and I would think they use a IV injection to speed up the recovery process right after the weigh ins, something most of us don’t have access too. GSP and Alves are 15% over in weight cuts and both have shown great endurance.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Aug 5, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dont know if people know this, but Alves only has like a 68" reach. and his bread and butter is striking

hes already got a shorter reach than most welterweights, if he moves up to 185 hes gonna have the shortest reach in the division. I know his elite skills make up for a lack of reach-somewhat, but could you imagine him trying to strike with silvas 77.5 inch reach

by Andrew Keller on Aug 5, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well it's a 70" reach and that is still shorter the average MW that I have seen

  Most MW’s have 72-75" reach now Silva with his leg striking I think will have few problems with most of the MW’s but when you look at Silva his noramal reach afdvanatge is 3 to 6" were against Alves it would be 8 and Silva is probally the most accurate striker in MMA. But really who should be able beat Silva?

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Aug 5, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think if the reach was equal alves could give silva a hell of a run for his money

sure sliva’s jits is better, but when does he ever take anyone down? never. and even if he tried, alves at least made GSP work a couple times for the takedown. If he can make gsp work, the can stop a sliva takedown.

by Andrew Keller on Aug 5, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

For sure Andrew, one style of fighter Silva has yet to face standing is a leg striker like Alves

 Not to mention Alves is a power striker and the best power striker Silva has faced is Hendo or Marquardt. But at the same time Alves has not faced anyone that has the striking skills of Anderson.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Aug 5, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The more we talk about this the more i wanna see that matchup.

maybe he could get that surgery that midgets get to become taller-only have the surgery strictly to lengthen his arms.

by Andrew Keller on Aug 5, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

 I would like to see GSP & Alves to face some top MW’s just to guage if a Silva match up would be disputed for once.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Aug 5, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

iv said it once and ill say it again, silva eat leg kicks for breakfast.
However seeing as Thiago is my fav fighter of course i’d love to see him fight Anderson

"its either going to be genius or its going to f***ing suck. Until I see the first cut I have no idea. But you know what? Neither does anybody else"

Rory 'The Waterboy' Macdonald
Thiago 'The Pitbull' Alves
Yushin 'Thunder' Okami
Mauricio 'Shogun' Rua

by HERZ on Aug 5, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who's leg kicks has he ate?

 I can’t think of one fighter that Silva has faced that is known for having good leg kicks?

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Aug 5, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

well forrest griffin is known to have some pretty decent leg kicks, silva caught two of them and connect with a punch on one. James irvin is a dangerous striker. who in fact does have good kicks. Not to mention silva didnt even wait to get his timing down for the kicks he just caught it first throw

"its either going to be genius or its going to f***ing suck. Until I see the first cut I have no idea. But you know what? Neither does anybody else"

Rory 'The Waterboy' Macdonald
Thiago 'The Pitbull' Alves
Yushin 'Thunder' Okami
Mauricio 'Shogun' Rua

by HERZ on Aug 5, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forrest leg kicks? They are not even close to Alves nor is Irvins

 If you want to compare a fighter with the power and effectiviness of leg kicks with Alves that would be Rua. Yes other fighters throw them but they are not something that their opponets worry about near as much as fighters like Rua and Alves. The damage that Alves’s leg kicks can do is in the elite catigory were Forrest and Irvin are in the good at best catigory.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Aug 5, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forrest leg kicks>Alves leg kicks.

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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Aug 5, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

?? Forrest leg kicks greater (>)than Alves??

 If so, are you on drugs today jay? LOL First BJ is not a top 20 striker in MMA and second Forrest leg kicks are greater than Alves’s?

 Forrest against Page has confused some into maybe thinking so? But all I have to say is go to you tube watch Alves’s last 5 fights before GSP…hell watch his GSP fight (GSP stated those were the hardest kicks he has ever been hit with.) and then go watch Forrests last five fights and tell me again that Forrest has greater leg kicks.

 If I got your comment wrong and you stated that Alves’s are harder then disregard above besides the BJ thread statement LOL

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Aug 5, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forrest has won fights with his leg kicks

Alves may hit harder but until he wins a fight with them I would have to say Forrest is more effective with his. I don’t know if Forrest kicks harder(he probably does since he outweighs Alves)but for sure Forrest uses his as well or better than Alves has.

BJ is not a top 30 striker in the world. He boxes half decently, but since everyone said Toney can’t be considered a top MMA striker with only boxing, neither can BJ. BJ just got outboxed by Edgar. Are you saying Edgar is top 5 strikers in the world then?

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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Aug 5, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

toney can be considered a top striker

 Becasue he has great striking, but everything else sucks so as a MMA fighter I would say he will probally suck unless he can keep it standing and I doubt that. And Edgar did not out box BJ, he out smarted BJ. Edgar used his speed and endurance in a close fight the takedown is what sealed the result.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Aug 5, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Edgar used his speed and endurance

That’s exactly what Forrest uses to win fights.

And Edgar did not out box BJ, he out smarted BJ.

He used a better(points wise) boxing strategy than BJ. Does that not make him a better boxer? THe guy that wins the fight? Is BJ a better boxer than Edgar because he hits harder? Why do you think BJ is a better boxer than the guy that just beat him? Are you gonna use different fights these guys had and ignore the time they faced each other?

Puck Head:BJ’s a better boxer than Frankie.
Me: But they just had a stand up match with 5 kicks the entire fight, and Frankie won.
Puck Head:THat doesn’t make Frankie a better boxer.
Me:He won a boxing match against BJ.
You:But BJ beat GSP on the feet in the first fight.
Me:I’m confused as to where I lost you, Puck.

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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Aug 5, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know where Edgar's striking stands in world rankings

but his footwork is the best I’ve seen since Sugar Ray Fuckin Leonard.

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by Yan117 on Aug 5, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bj is a better "striker" than frankie

 Edgar is a better dancer and a fast mother F’er. Do you read jay? I stated Edgar won becasue of the takedown, now Edgar may be better at avoiding strikes but that does not make him a better striker does it? Once again GSP is a better MMA fighter period. But we are talking about jsut striking and BJ is better and I ‘m a GSP fan. Anybody that get’s KO by Serra can not be thought as one of the best. GSP may be the best takedown artist in MMA history and becasue of that his oppoents have to give 90% of their attention to stopping him and even then are unable becasue thats how good GSP is.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Aug 5, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

But we are talking about jsut striking and BJ is better and I ‘m a GSP fan. Anybody that get’s KO by Serra can not be thought as one of the best

What? GSP beat BJ standing a year ago. Now because GSP lost to Serra, he can’t be better than BJ? Are you for real? Read my post above about the conversation we were gonna have. It’s exactly what you are doing. You’re drunk or retarded.

Edgar is a better dancer and a fast mother F’er. Do you read jay?

They just had a fight Puckhead. Frankie Edgar proved to everyone that can read that he is better than BJ. Those two shit takedowns did not win him the fight. Again I will reiterate, Frankie just beat BJ in a stand up fight. BJ lost. He can therefore not be called a better striker than Edgar. Edgar just beat him at striking.

now Edgar may be better at avoiding strikes but that does not make him a better striker does it?

Actually It does. Are you asking who is the best at hitting a heavy bag? Are you saying BJ would be better than Edgar, if Edgar would just stand the fuck still? You are bordering on trolling and mental retardation. Let’s see which way you went.

GSP may be the best takedown artist in MMA history and becasue of that his oppoents have to give 90% of their attention to stopping him and even then are unable becasue thats how good GSP is.

What? 90% of their attention? Is that an actual stat? BJ has jabs and slow feet. GSP is faster, stronger and able to use KICKS. BJ can not beat GSP in a kickboxing match. GSP is the better STRIKER. BJ loses to guys at striking then you still try to tell me that he’s a better striker than they are by using MMAMATH, look at head to head fights. GSP stood with BJ and killed him. It may have been after a round or two of GNP, but do you think BJ wouldn’t get tired in a boxing match?

Is your rules for this discussion that BJ is always full of energy, enthusiasm, motivation and that he had a good camp? Because that isn’t BJ.

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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Aug 5, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

What? GSP beat BJ standing a year ago. Now because GSP lost to Serra, he can’t be better than BJ? Are you for real? Read my post above about the conversation we were gonna have. It’s exactly what you are doing. You’re drunk or retarded.

 No he beat BJ at MMA, standing was a small part of GSP’s offence and the one phase he wanted to be in the least against BJ. This is what makes GSP so good, his ability to push the fight at such a high pace and keep his opponent guessing. Anybody that knows MMA understands that dictating the fight is a huge advantage and GSP is one of the best at dictating the fight if not the best.
1) He is relentless
2) his athletic ability is elite
3) His ground game is among the best
4) His takedown is the best in MMA
5) His weaknesses are above average(includes striking)

 I want to believe as much as you jay that GSP has great stand up but without his ground game and takedowns his stand up is just good.

They just had a fight Puckhead. Frankie Edgar proved to everyone that can read that he is better than BJ. Those two shit takedowns did not win him the fight. Again I will reiterate, Frankie just beat BJ in a stand up fight. BJ lost. He can therefore not be called a better striker than Edgar. Edgar just beat him at striking.

 No thats a lie many have stated that the takedown was the differece as well as the aggressiviness. One judge cored it 50-45 but anyone that knew anything about MMA includiing Edgar stated it was much closer the other two judges had it one round and two rounds difference. Fight Metric had the total strikes in favour of BJ
Total Penn 72 Edgar 68, Hi Strikes Penn 71 Edgar 6, Low Penn 1 Edgar 2, Head Penn 61 Edgar 39, Body Penn 7Edgar 16, Legs Pen 4 Edgar 8.
Ok tell me again Edgar won the striking LOL good try though jay?
http://www.mmamania.com/2010/4/11/1415389/fightmetric-statistics-deconstruct

  Now MMA fighter GSP all the way, but being a GSP fan I even understand that BJ has better striking it is pretty much commons sense.

 So Shields had more strikes than Hendo that doesn’t make Shields a better striker even though he had the striking stats, and Fitch out struck Alves, Paulo and Saunders does not mean he’s a better striker, or Couture out striking Chuck.. I can on and on the fact is those guys dictated were the fight and used their superior ground game to set up their strikes.

Is your rules for this discussion that BJ is always full of energy, enthusiasm, motivation and that he had a good camp? Because that isn’t BJ.

 No the only debate I’m in is that BJ is a elite striker top ten at least and better than GSP, putting words in my mouth makes me think your trying to make something out of a lie?

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Aug 6, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

BJ's a better striker than...

Rampage
Shogun
MAchida
Overeem
Fedor
Anderson Silva
Toney(he’s in MMA and only boxes just like BJ)
Edgar(don’t care what you think, he is obviously a better striker than the guy he JUST BEAT IN A STAND UP FIGHT, he may not look as pretty but he did just outpoint BJ AT STRIKING)
Thiago Alves
Melvin Manhoef

There’s another quick 10. Tell me again that BJ is a better striker than any of those fucking dudes. You’re starting to annoy me.

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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Aug 6, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Machida had a great battle with a much bigger Machida go watch you tube

Now the numbers don’t lie BJ had more strikes it was close but the big difference was the # of head shots that BJ got more in. Edgar got points for bing the aggressor and takedowns that doesn’t prove he has better striking wich is what this debate is about. Now avoiding strikes Edgar is better but honestly he might be the best at doing that?

 When a LW has a good fight agaisnt a LHW I think that proves his skill.

 Do I think BJ is better than some of those guys yes I do, of coarse being bigger fighters that you have picked they would win most likely because of there size advantage and all we treuly have to judge these fighters is their weight class.

 And at LW only Edgar is able to stand with BJ, and we will see in a rematch at the end of the month BJ’s striking skill again. And besides that noboday has been able to touch BJ. When you domiante your division as BJ has there is little doubt that he is the best striker at LW period. Now is Edgar better all around? we will find out.

 Manoef? Robby Lawler KO him LOL
Other than that your list is pretty good but at the very least BJ should be rated close to Machida if not better.

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by Puck Head on Aug 6, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Edgar used his speed and endurance
That’s exactly what Forrest uses to win fights.


endurance maybe but forrest is one of the slower strikers in that weight class. His whole gameplan is about wearing guys down to his speed.

And puck trust me as a HUGE alves fan i know what his kicks are capable of. Just as koscheck what theyre all about. But a counter striker of andersons caliber who anticipates strikes so well would fair well against guys with good leg kicks. I believe shogun would give him the biggest troubles with leg kicks, then alves but I still dont really see it being a ‘problem’ for anderson. Once he gets his timing down it could be trouble

"its either going to be genius or its going to f***ing suck. Until I see the first cut I have no idea. But you know what? Neither does anybody else"

Rory 'The Waterboy' Macdonald
Thiago 'The Pitbull' Alves
Yushin 'Thunder' Okami
Mauricio 'Shogun' Rua

by HERZ on Aug 6, 2010 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

sorry bout the quotes things im still getting to learn posting on here

"its either going to be genius or its going to f***ing suck. Until I see the first cut I have no idea. But you know what? Neither does anybody else"

Rory 'The Waterboy' Macdonald
Thiago 'The Pitbull' Alves
Yushin 'Thunder' Okami
Mauricio 'Shogun' Rua

by HERZ on Aug 6, 2010 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if anybody can out strike Anderson

 But it would be good to see a different type of striker like Alves face Silva. Alves though would leave a huge reach advantage that I think striking would be to much against Anderson.

 But as far as Alves and WW division I don’t think anybody right now in the UFC would want to stand with him. Him and Hardy would be very interesting but I still think Alves would take it and outside the UFC or coarse Diaz would be exciting.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Aug 6, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

fellas

just learned that the first ever MMA gym is gonna open in my city next month! so jacked! finally get to train

My P4P Top 5:
1) GSP 2) Aldo 3) A. Silva 4)Shogun 5) Fedor

by Newfie3 on Aug 5, 2010 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

training ufc

Nice! Are you looking to be an amateur, a pro or just for a workout? Just make sure the people there are legit, you don’t wanna get ripped off or learn a bunch of flawed shit from some retarded system they invented like Gaidojitsu or some shit.

Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 5, 2010 8:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

just looking to get a workout in and learn some kickboxing/BJJ/wrestling

nothing serious

My P4P Top 5:
1) GSP 2) Aldo 3) A. Silva 4)Shogun 5) Fedor

by Newfie3 on Aug 5, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's cool.

I myself do the rolling in pygamas thing. Just wanted to do it for working out too but man the itch to compete will hit you soon after you start (maybe not a fight but a wrestling/bjj tourney or two;).

Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 5, 2010 8:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

How do you train UFC? DW tells you how to say "fuck" alot?? ;)

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by Ulf Murphy on Aug 6, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

corner brook

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1) GSP 2) Aldo 3) A. Silva 4)Shogun 5) Fedor

by Newfie3 on Aug 5, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very nice

I’m heading to NL in September for my birthday to see some friends. Can’t wait. I doubt I’ll get to the gym while there but good to know that a facility is opening up.

by Dugout on Aug 5, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

My best friend growing up was born and raised(until 10 yrs. old) in CornerBrook.

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by jay. on Aug 5, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

whats his name?

and what year was he born?

My P4P Top 5:
1) GSP 2) Aldo 3) A. Silva 4)Shogun 5) Fedor

by Newfie3 on Aug 5, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Philip, 1975.

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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Aug 5, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

His favorite color? His blood type? Dammit, I need answers now!!!

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by OJR on Aug 5, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha ha

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by Yan117 on Aug 5, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

good to hear

Steve blackmans mma is right up the street from me..yea..steve blackman from wwe..but he has legit martial arts training and his bro is a real good wrestler(real)..dude is still jacked as hell and very flexible for a dude who is 240 plus.

Activia; now with bullshitifus ridicularus

by salamagogo on Aug 5, 2010 9:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

f*ing dalai lama

he’s such a bad influence

by cancer on Aug 5, 2010 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

get a fucking hair cut !!!!!

by FatAttack on Aug 5, 2010 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

I've still not made up my mind on this one

I feel like Fitch could grind this one out, but at the same time Kos and Hughes had a tough time trying to get Alves down. I think the deciding factor may be the ring rust. I’m going to wait until the weigh ins to make my pic. If Alves comes in looking drained as hell, i’ll have to go with Fitch. The long war favors him.

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1. Nick Diaz
2. Fedor
3. Carlos Condit
4. Jake Shields
5. Gilbert Melendez
6. Gegard Mousasi
7. Anderson Silva
8. Nate Diaz
9. Kenny Florian
10. Takanori Gomi

by MasterWhiteTiger on Aug 5, 2010 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope Alves is in top shape

 And if he is I think he may pull off the upset. To beat Fitch you can’t be to aggressive and aware of the takedown attempts, and he needs to limit the number of leg kicks until he gets in a groove. Fitch has a iron chin so Alves can’t be too aggressive even when he connects with a solid shot instead take his time and make sure he is not vulnerable to the takedowns.
 
 It will basically come down to wether Alves can stop the takedowns or not, but everyone of Fitch’s opponets were prepared for the takedowns and Fitch was still able. But I also think Alves can beat everyone of Fitch’s opponets and I’m excited for the #2 & 3 WW in the world to go at it.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Aug 5, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good post

I pretty much agree with you on all points.

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by MasterWhiteTiger on Aug 5, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the fight will be won in the 3rd round. Going to be a close fight. My brain says go with the more active fighter since Alves hasn’t fought in awhile. But I’m still going to say Alves by decision.

by GoldenSt8OfMind on Aug 5, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

With the training and preperation now days time off is less of a factor than ever

 Usually the biggest factor is conditioning and hopefully everything that has been stated about Alves is true and he still is in peak form.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Aug 5, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what i’m thinking, but instead of Alves winning the decision it will be Fitch. I just don’t know how Alves can win a long fight against him, unless he dominates the first two rounds then holds on in the third. I think this will be the most interesting fight on the card. It’s one of those style matchups of Wrestler vs Striker, most of the time the wrestler comes out ahead, but it’s going to be fun to watch either way.

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1. Nick Diaz
2. Fedor
3. Carlos Condit
4. Jake Shields
5. Gilbert Melendez
6. Gegard Mousasi
7. Anderson Silva
8. Nate Diaz
9. Kenny Florian
10. Takanori Gomi

by MasterWhiteTiger on Aug 5, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

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